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L

Leonard Grey

Do what we do: Search Google to find an explanation for each item, then
decide whether you want it to start with Windows.
 
B

Binzer

Leonard Grey said:
Do what we do: Search Google to find an explanation for each item, then
decide whether you want it to start with Windows.
Thank you for the suggestions. I'll give it a try and see how it works out.
 
T

Twayne

Binzer said:
Thank you for the suggestions. I'll give it a try and see how it
works out.

I've lost track of where I got this, but here's a list that will help
you get started. Keep a list of what you do and what depends on it, so
you can turn it back on if it does something you didn't expect tomorrow
or whenever<g>.
There is a web site that gives a good description of over 90% of the
possibilities too, but I ca't seem to locate it right now. If I do
remember/find it, i'll post back with the link.

I'm also not agreeing or disagreeing with anything in the article; it
can be different for each person.

Some services are intertwined with other services, too, and that's not
readily apparent. I assume you already know how to see what services
are running or not, and that same tool should also show you dependencies
if I'm not mistaken. e.g. turning off one service can disable another
service, on which one of your applications may depend. Thus, you should
make changes one at a time, and check things out after each change, then
go back and make another change, until you're done.

But start with the list below: It has the most common points covered.

HTH

Twayne
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Windows XP Pro (and Home); Stuff to turn off:

Each service is listed as it is in Microsoft's WIndows XP Professional.
These should be similar in Microsoft's XP Home as well. Under each is
the definition given in the Services Manager.

Alerter
Notifies selected users and computers of administrative alerts. If the
service is stopped, programs that use administrative alerts will not
receive them. If this service is disabled, any services that explicitly
depend on it will fail to start.

Comment: I don't want my personal computer telling me anything, ever.
Shut up and work! There's few things I find more annoying than a
computer constantly wanting to interact with me while I'm using it to do
work or entertain myself. A computer is a tool, not a friend or work
companion. No Hal, I don't want to talk to you. Perhaps there's a
software vendor that can give you a compelling reason why you need this
service, but for most home and SOHO PC use it's just an unnecessary
service taking up resources and providing risk. Unless you are running a
product that requires this service, disable it.

Application Layer Gateway Service
Provides support for 3rd party protocol plug-ins for Internet Connection
Sharing and the Internet Connection Firewall

Comment: Do you want to share your internet connection? That's an
article waiting to be written. Let me be clear. Since you can buy a
router for $50 or less, and Windows does an awful job routing, using a
computer to gateway your other computers to the internet is just stupid.
"What about firewalling and admission control?" Well, that's not going
to be done through the built-in internet sharing tools. So, we''re not
talking about that. If you use a personal computer to gateway your other
computers to the internet (and calling it a server doesn't change the
reality), you are wasting resources. Buy a $50 router, or a $1000 router
for that matter. But, buy a discrete device that is designed to do the
job. Use hardware based firewalling (OK, it's all based on software -
but I mean a boxed solution, not software installed on a PC that's prone
to lose autonomy). And, what about all those cute third-party
firewalling tools that plug in to this thing? Man, give me a break. If
it runs on top of your Windows installation, it's not a real firewall.
Unless this is required by a product you think is necessary, disable it.

Automatic Updates
Enables the download and installation of critical Windows updates. If
the service is disabled, the operating system can be manually updated.

Comment: There's only two options that may make sense with this service.
You should either set it to disable or manual. I'd disable it. Automatic
Updates is designed as a tool to aid Microsoft in controlling their
product. Props to Microsoft for trying to protect their product from
piracy. But, some updates have been known to cause problems. Use it when
you need it, and disable it when you don't, unless you're too lazy to do
updates on your own. Don't you wonder why all the computers in big, well
managed networks don't run Automatic Updates? It's mostly because
managers of big networks create their own update policies. If you more
completely understand the thinking that goes into deciding whether or
not to distribute an update, you could better administer your own PC.
Either turn it on and assume the risk, or turn it off and regularly
visit Mircosoft's update and news page (discussed more below).

Background Intelligent Transfer Service
Uses idle network bandwidth to transfer data.

Comment: This is one of those tools they require you turn on to enable
Automatic Updates. Think about it. It connects your PC to the internet
or network and works behind your back to do stuff you didn't explicitly
tell it to do. It sounds like a great tool to help hackers collect data
from your PC and slowly seep it back to their lair. Unless it's
immediately required, disable it. It you use it and then go for some
time with no need to use it, disable it. If you can't remember to keep
your PC updated with the latest security fixes, you'll need it.

ClipBook
Enables ClipBook Viewer to store information and share it with remote
computers. If the service is stopped, ClipBook Viewer will not be able
to share information with remote computers. If this service is disabled,
any services that explicitly depend on it will fail to start.

Comment: So, you want to copy stuff to your clipbook and allow remote
computers to access it? I don't. There may be a software vendor that
requires this service to run. I've yet to find it useful. I suggest you
disable it.

Computer Browser
Maintains an updated list of computers on the network and supplies this
list to computers designated as browsers. If this service is stopped,
this list will not be updated or maintained. If this service is
disabled, any services that explicitly depend on it will fail to start.

Comment: If you are on a network with other computers, and need to see
them, this may be a useful tool. Otherwise, disable it.

Cryptographic Services
Provides three management services: Catalog Database Service, which
confirms the signatures of Windows files; Protected Root Service, which
adds and removes Trusted Root Certification Authority certificates from
this computer; and Key Service, which helps enroll this computer for
certificates. If this service is stopped, these management services will
not function properly. If this service is disabled, any services that
explicitly depend on it will fail to start.

Comment: It is very necessary if you are passing certificates for
networking. Unless you are in a large corporate network where
connections are managed through authentication, this is unnecessary;
disable it.

Distributed Transaction Coordinator
Coordinates transactions that span multiple resource managers, such as
databases, message queues, and file systems. If this service is stopped,
these transactions will not occur. If this service is disabled, any
services that explicitly depend on it will fail to start.

Comment: Extremely few personal computers will require this service. If
you use it, you may want to review the reasons it is being used. Unless
you are accessing network filesystems and databases, disable it.

DNS Client
Resolves and caches Domain Name System (DNS) names for this computer. If
this service is stopped, this computer will not be able to resolve DNS
names and locate Active Directory domain controllers. If this service is
disabled, any services that explicitly depend on it will fail to start.

Comment: This tool is necessary if you are on a network running Active
Directory domain Controllers. Typically, you either know that that
means, or you are in a large corporate network, which means you aren't
turning services on and off because I tell you to. Unless you are on
such a network or know you need this running and why, disable it.

Error Reporting Service
Allows error reporting for services and applications running in
non-standard environments.

Comment: Erorr reporting is very useful, if you know what to do with the
errors or you are running software that adjusts based on error
reporting. This is that annoying "feature" in Windows that constantly
pops up wanting to ship information about your software failures to
Redmond. People promise me it helps find problems and solutions. I've
mostly seen problem reports that you could as easily search out
yourself. If you're advanced enough to use this, you'll likely use a
search engine just as well. Chances are, the best thing for you to do is
disable it.

Help and Support
Enables Help and Support Center to run on this computer. If this service
is stopped, Help and Support Center will be unavailable. If this service
is disabled, any services that explicitly depend on it will fail to
start.

Comment: I don't find this service useful, other than sucking up
resources. If you know how to use Google, I'd disable it.

Human Interface Device Access
Enables generic input access to Human Interface Devices (HID), which
activates and maintains the use of predefined hot buttons on keyboards,
remote controls, and other multimedia devices. If this service is
stopped, hot buttons controlled by this service will no longer function.
If this service is disabled, any services that explicitly depend on it
will fail to start.

Comment: Whether or not you should disable this service, depends on
other services you need. If you don't know, turn it off and see if it
breaks anything. It says that it deals with hotkeys, however all the
system hotkeys that most of us enjoy aren't controlled by this service,
they are built into the core OS. Control C, for example, to copy and
Control V to past, do not stop working when you turn this service off.
It seems this has more to do with specific hotkeys that a software
vendor may want to insert into their installed program or internet
product. Until you see a reason for it, I'd turn this one off.
Personally, I consider relying on such services to be lazy programming.
But, there may be good reason for using it if it's more efficient.

Indexing Service
Indexes contents and properties of files on local and remote computers;
provides rapid access to files through flexible querying language.

Comment: To date, nobody has shown me real system performance
improvements with this technology. Keep in mind, I'm limited in this
conversation to Windows. Indexing is very useful. Indexing databases is
very useful. Indexing your computer isn't very useful at all. Typically,
if you are on a network, you know where on a network to find your chosen
data. If you are not on a network, there's no real performance
enhancement to this service that justifies the complexity and resource
use. Chances are good you should disable it.

IMAPI CD-Burning COM Service
Manages CD recording using Image Mastering Applications Programming
Interface (IMAPI). If this service is stopped, this computer will be
unable to record CDs. If this service is disabled, any services that
explicitly depend on it will fail to start.

Comment: Obviously, there may be some usefulness leaving this service as
manual, if you have a CD burner installed. If you don't, disable it.

Internet Connection Firewall (ICF) / Internet Connection Sharing (ICS)
Provides network address translation, addressing, name resolution and/or
intrusion prevention services for a home or small office network.

Comment: This tool does a great job of complicating my internet
connection and slowing down transactions. It's not likely this tool is
sophisticated enough to make a major impact in your system's
performance. You should disable it.

Messenger
Transmits net send and Alerter service messages between clients and
servers. This service is not related to Windows Messenger. If this
service is stopped, Alerter messages will not be transmitted. If this
service is disabled, any services that explicitly depend on it will fail
to start.

Comment: Turn this thing off! It's a simple kit for anybody that can
connect via any network to your computer to access your system and do
things you don't want them to. Disable it.

Net Logon
Supports pass-through authentication of account logon events for
computers in a domain.

Comment: Unless you need this to operate inside a domain, it's likely
not necessary or useful. If you are using a home or SOHO PC and don't
have a local domain based network, disable it.

NetMeeting Remote Desktop Sharing
Enables an authorized user to access this computer remotely by using
NetMeeting over a corporate intranet. If this service is stopped, remote
desktop sharing will be unavailable. If this service is disabled, any
services that explicitly depend on it will fail to start.

Comment: Do you really want a built in tool to share control of your
desktop over your network connection? There are better tools for doing
this kind of work, if needed. If someone you buy software from insists
you let them use this tool to help you install it one time, then enable
it and disable it immediately afterward. For typical use, you should
disable it.

Remote Desktop Help Session Manager
Manages and controls Remote Assistance. If this service is stopped,
Remote Assistance will be unavailable. Before stopping this service, see
the Dependencies tab of the Properties dialog box.

Comment: Refer to NetMeeting. If you don't want to share control of your
computer through your network, disable it.

Remote Procedure Call (RPC) Locator
Manages the RPC name service database.

Comment: There are some network programs and protocols that require this
to be turned on. Chances are you could just turn it off and see if you
break anything. If you are using a single PC in your home or SOHO, it's
likely just a security risk. If you don't know you need it, disable it.

Remote Registry
Enables remote users to modify registry settings on this computer. If
this service is stopped, the registry can be modified only by users on
this computer. If this service is disabled, any services that explicitly
depend on it will fail to start.

Comment: Seems self-explanatory. You can enable this service to help
remote people or programs change your registry. Great hacker tool if you
can't secure it. Disable it.

System Restore Service
Performs system restore functions. To stop service, turn off System
Restore from the System Restore tab in My Computer->Properties

Comment: This is almost useless if you ever have a problem with damaged
drives, corrupted data, or malware. It uses a lot of resources and isn't
useful for most people. You can turn it on before you install a big
piece of software. This service allows you to backup to a previous
system should you mess your's up with an installation of software or a
modification to your system settings, usually registry damage. To
improve system performance and take the minor risk of not being able to
make your computer work like it did yesterday, disable it.

TCP/IP NetBIOS Helper
Enables support for NetBIOS over TCP/IP (NetBT) service and NetBIOS name
resolution.

Comment: Very few people use NetBIOS at home. This is the Windows
built-in protocol for simple networking. You may need it. Otherwise,
disable it.

Telephony
Provides Telephony API (TAPI) support for programs that control
telephony devices and IP based voice connections on the local computer
and, through the LAN, on servers that are also running the service.

Comment: If you use telephony, you probably use discrete devices or
proprietary services that don't rely on this service. However, you do
need this servive if you use a modem to connect to the ineternet. If you
don't specifically need the Microsoft Telephony service, disable it. If
you use a modem to connect to the internet, leave it enabled.

Telnet
Enables a remote user to log on to this computer and run programs, and
supports various TCP/IP Telnet clients, including UNIX-based and
Windows-based computers. If this service is stopped, remote user access
to programs might be unavailable. If this service is disabled, any
services that explicitly depend on it will fail to start.

Comment: There's just not a circumstance where I can imagine that
turning this service on is a good idea. Unless you need to let people
telnet into your computer and have a really good reason for doing so,
disable it.

Terminal Services
Allows multiple users to be connected interactively to a machine as well
as the display of desktops and applications to remote computers. The
underpinning of Remote Desktop (including RD for Administrators), Fast
User Switching, Remote Assistance, and Terminal Server.

Comment: As I've said above, there's better tools for remote desktop
administration. The idea of Terminal Services is to allow remote desktop
administration of a system, like the user was on the actual console. In
almost all circumstances you should disable it.

Themes
Provides user experience theme management.

Comment: Themes are cute and bloated. Enabling themes is not a good way
to increase performance, but you may think it's neat. If you aren't
addicted to cute desktop eye candy, disable it.

Uninterruptible Power Supply
Manages an uninterruptible power supply (UPS) connected to the computer.

Comment: Unless you are using a UPS on your computer and it has the
capability of managing the system, disable it.

Upload Manager
Manages synchronous and asynchronous file transfers between clients and
servers on the network. If this service is stopped, synchronous and
asynchronous file transfers between clients and servers on the network
will not occur. If this service is disabled, any services that
explicitly depend on it will fail to start.

Comment: If you are not in a local network sharing data (files and/or
services), disable it.

Windows Time
Maintains date and time synchronization on all clients and servers in
the network. If this service is stopped, date and time synchronization
will be unavailable. If this service is disabled, any services that
explicitly depend on it will fail to start.

Comment: Sometimes it works. Unless you are really needing your time to
sync to something running a Windows time server, disable it.

Wireless Zero Configuration
Provides automatic configuration for the 802.11 adapters

Comment: Unless you use 802.11 devices, disable it.

Workstation
Creates and maintains client network connections to remote servers. If
this service is stopped, these connections will be unavailable. If this
service is disabled, any services that explicitly depend on it will fail
to start.

Comment: If you are not in a local network sharing data (files and/or
services), disable it.

If you turn off all the services suggested above and try to use
Automatic Updates via WindowsUpdate.Microsoft.com, you will likely see a
message something like this:

Windows Update cannot continue because a required service application is
disabled. Windows Update requires the following services:

"Automatic Updates enables detection, downloading, and installation of
critical updates for your computer.

Background Intelligent Transfer Service (BITS) enables faster,
restartable downloading of updates.

Event Log logs Windows Update events for troubleshooting. To ensure that
these services are enabled:"

It's easy to just go back to Services, and turn these services on as you
need them. An operating system shouldn't need daily updates to run. And,
the more services you run, the more likely you are to need updates. See
a circle here? Occasionally, a little laziness won't kill you. Though
you could just go to Technet (Microsoft's only support for IT
professionals) and get all your news and update files with descriptions
of their efficacy and safety, you may occasionally just want to veg out
and let Microsoft do the work for you. You should still read each update
and decide for yourself whether it makes sense. Some of them are flat
out bad news. But, turning up these services for a few minutes to run
Automatic Updates may be a shortcut to periodic updates.

So, let's look at the services they want you to turn on.

Automatic Updates
Background Intelligent Transfer Service
Event Log

I haven't a clue why you need Background Intelligent Transfer Services
to run so you can go to a website, download, and install service packs.
But, you can turn it, and the others, on and then turn it back off when
you are done. It's just three services.

If you turn off all the services suggested above and try to use
Automatic Updates via WindowsUpdate.Microsoft.com, you will likely see a
message something like this:

Windows Update cannot continue because a required service application is
disabled. Windows Update requires the following services:
Automatic Updates enables detection, downloading, and installation of
critical updates for your computer.
Background Intelligent Transfer Service (BITS) enables faster,
restartable downloading of updates.
Event Log logs Windows Update events for troubleshooting. To ensure that
these services are enabled:

It's easy to just go back to Services, and turn these services on as you
need them. An operating system shouldn't need daily updates to run. And,
the more services you run, the more likely you are to need updates. See
a circle here? Occasionally, a little laziness won't kill you. Though
you could just go to Technet (Microsoft's only support for IT
professionals) and get all your news and update files with descriptions
of their efficacy and safety, you may occasionally just want to veg out
and let Microsoft do the work for you. You should still read each update
and decide for yourself whether it makes sense. Some of them are flat
out bad news. But, turning up these services for a few minutes to run
Automatic Updates may be a shortcut to periodic updates.

So, let's look at the services they want you to turn on.

Automatic Updates

Background Intelligent Transfer Service

Event Log

I haven't a clue why you need Background Intelligent Transfer Services
to run so you can go to a website, download, and install service packs.
But, you can turn it, and the others, on and then turn it back off when
you are done. After all, it's just three services.

If you take a minimalist's point of view to running both software and
services on your computer, it will perform faster and more safely than
it will if you just randomly load anything anyone tells you to. To
better secure your PC, stick to a mindset that if you don't absolutely
need a service running right now, you should just turn it off.

For those of you that break stuff when you turn off services I suggest
are unnecessary.

If you turn off all the stuff that blatantly doesn't have anything to do
with the network, you should be fine. Then, turn off one thing at a time
that you /think/ doesn't support your network connection. If you lose
your connection, turn the service back on. Next, and this part is very
important, make sure your network settings are accurate and set for "on"
so you can reconnect. You should find out how your PC connects to your
local network before you get started and document it. But, anything you
turn off that breaks something needs to be carefully examined and
documented (write it down somewhere).

Just because you turn a service back on, doesn't mean your broken
software will magically start working again. For example, remember the
issue of using a computer in your network to manage your connection? If
that's how you connect, you'll have to reconfigure that connection to
get online if you kill it by killing a service. Likely, Computer Browser
will cause this kind of problem. Also, just enabling the service doesn't
turn it on. You need to manually restart it, since the start, enable,
stop, settings go into action on bootup. So, if you don't want to wait
til your box reboots, you'll need to manually turn off the service if
you want it disabled, and manually turn it on if you want to enable it
(and see if that given service is your problem).

What about System Restore? Well, I don't like it. If I had a dollar for
every time someone fouled up their PC, ran system restore, and were
amazed that all wasn't suddenly happy sunshine, I'd have a really nice
vacation home. I realize it makes life easier for newbies that randomly
screw stuff up and can't be hassled with learning the things they use.
But, for most cases, it's a great tool for virus and worms to avoid
capture. You delete them, they have a backup switch to recapture control
through the restore program. Many antivirus programs don't work properly
when you have this feature enabled. You can leave it on if you're a fan.
Perhaps it makes you feel good, like it would make everything right
again if you had it around. But, it won't save you from a serious
problem. Backups and safe computer practices will.

You need to learn enough about your PC to run a functional backup and
restoration of your critical data. If you can't do this, you're just
waiting to lose everything.

Don't be afraid to learn more about your PC. It's one thing to run
through a checklist of stuff I suggest you don't need. But, it's not a
guarantee that I address every concern for every user. With a few hours
here and there of learning now, you'll save yourself a lot of
frustration later. The things I learned about Windows five and six years
ago still serve me today. The things I learned about networks running
Unix systems serve me every day, no matter what operating system I may
run.

Enjoy learning; it's the first line of defense against bad software and
broken PCs.
 
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David B.

Those aren't programs, those are services, two different things.

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Twayne said:
Binzer said:

I've lost track of where I got this, but here's a list that will help you
get started. Keep a list of what you do and what depends on it, so you
can turn it back on if it does something you didn't expect tomorrow or
whenever<g>.
There is a web site that gives a good description of over 90% of the
possibilities too, but I ca't seem to locate it right now. If I do
remember/find it, i'll post back with the link.

I'm also not agreeing or disagreeing with anything in the article; it can
be different for each person.

SNIPPED
 
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_Z

Binzer said:
How do I tell which programs are safe to disable upon start up?
"Twayne" wrote:
.... <-list of services-> ...

David B. said:
Those aren't programs, those are services, two different things.

David B,
The OP was not asking about 'application programs', rather anything
executable, which does include services.
 
T

Twayne

Those aren't programs, those are services, two different things.

Umm, and what would use services? What would be necessary in order to
call some programs?

But I do see what you are unable to say: It looks like the OP asked
about startup programs and not services. There's a diff between a man
of a few words and a man of irrelevant words.
 
T

Twayne

Binzer said:
... <-list of services-> ...



David B,
The OP was not asking about 'application programs', rather anything
executable, which does include services.

Yup; my error. Sorry.

Twayne
 
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Twayne

"How do I tell which programs are safe to disable"
Not the way I read it.

Only the OP can say for sure; it's a little vague and several responded
with guesses, but it looks like some clarification/verificaton might
have helped a lot.

Regards,

Twayne
 

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