SimplyMEPIS 6.0 Linux Final Release:

[Roger Johansson]

I'll try the live CD and if it boots I'll see if I can work up the courage
to install

Hard disks are cheap now, don't take any risks with your regular
windows hard disk.
Buy a new one, they cost less than 50 dollars here, for a small, 20GB
one.

move the contact to the new hard disk and play with linux installs, you
can move the contact back and be back in your old windows anytime.

Or back up your old windows to a dvd, for example using a disk imaging
program.

Don't burn your bridges, it is so easy to create a safe route of going
back if it fails.

I have a spare 8 GB hd, if I have time some day I will install knoppix
on it, just to compare experiences with you guys who install mepis or
ubuntu.

 

[rich]

It didn't work for me, Mark; it said it mounted the linux filesystem,
which
took AGES, but, I'd been forewarned by other posts, but immediately after
that is failed (in red ink).

It didn't appear to have an install option - am I missing something?

I don't really want any more live CDs, but to find something I can leave
on
my hard drive and try to get to know.

(and that will work with a USB modem!)

You should definitely give Mepis6 a try.

I used to use Knoppix - they updated and my usb modem no longer worked.
Switched to Kanotix they updated and my usb modem no longer worked.
Tried Mepis 3.4 everything worked. Moved to Mepis6 RC2 as a complete new
install 3 weeks ago, its great. Everything works. It is installed on a 3.5
Gb parition + 0.5 Gb swap which is a bit small (legacy from knoppix days)
but I still have almost 1Gb left. I advise something bigger, even perhaps a
separate home partition.
It does not have as much nerdy stuff as knoppix/kanotix which is a plus,
some things are missing but easy to get from the repository - Gimp and
Audacity were the first. External stuff installs relatively easily as well
- opera browser works fine, f-prot once you get some sort of a frontend and
googlemail after a tussle with the firewall - its all a learning curve.
This is the first linux installation I have had where I feel I could dump
windoze, for general use anyway.

 

[Craig]

You should definitely give Mepis6 a try. ...<stuff deleted> This is
the first linux installation I have had where I feel I could dump
windoze, for general use anyway.

(I wonder if Mr. Warner's reading this...<g>)

Before I detail the problem, a couple of observations:
- MEPIS 6.0 is very pleasant to run, easy install, etc
- H/W compatability sheet: http://www.mepislovers.org/hwdatabase/
- MEPIS 6 is based on Kubuntu 6 which, in turn, is based on Debian 3.1r2

The setup:
- The problem doesn't occur in identical situation w/debian nor kubuntu
- Dual-boot Win2ksp4 & MEPIS w/grub
- Broadcom 440x 10/100 onboard NIC

The gory details:
The network card runs w/o problem in Mepis. When rebooting into Win2k,
the system declares that the NIC is unplugged. The only workaround I've
found is to unplug the computer from the electrical, wait a few, then
plug it back in.

I've posted to mepislover's new forum* but, I haven't been able to find
(nor search) a MEPIS bugtracker. Is there such a bird? I'd like to see
if anyone else has submitted this and if not, do so. But...Mepis'
development feedback structures are a mystery to me.

tia,
-Craig

*http://www.mepislovers.com/forums/index.php?topic=497.0

 

[Bad Dog]

I've posted to mepislover's new forum* but, I haven't been able to find
(nor search) a MEPIS bugtracker. Is there such a bird? I'd like to see
if anyone else has submitted this and if not, do so. But...Mepis'
development feedback structures are a mystery to me.

*http://www.mepislovers.com/forums/index.php?topic=497.0

I have not seen this problem before, bug's should be reported to
(e-mail address removed) so that they may be fixed.

--
regards,
Bad Dog

INTEL P-IV/HT 3.0GHz - 2X256 DDR3200 - SimplyMEPIS 6.0
KDE 3.5.1 - Kernel 2.6.15-26-686-SMP - My iMAC runs Debian Sarge

 

[Bad Dog]

The gory details:
The network card runs w/o problem in Mepis. When rebooting into Win2k,
the system declares that the NIC is unplugged. The only workaround I've
found is to unplug the computer from the electrical, wait a few, then
plug it back in.

Are you running from the cd or is MEPIS installed? If you are running
from the cd you my need to boot twice to have windows work proper, why,
I don't know, but it is a well known problem for many years and not just
with MEPIS but other distro's too. If MEPIS is installed, then this is
the first I hear of this problem.

--
regards,
Bad Dog

INTEL P-IV/HT 3.0GHz - 2X256 DDR3200 - SimplyMEPIS 6.0
KDE 3.5.1 - Kernel 2.6.15-26-686-SMP - My iMAC runs Debian Sarge

 

[Bill Turner]

ORIGINAL MESSAGE:

Moved to Mepis6 RC2 as a complete new
install 3 weeks ago, its great.

------------ REPLY SEPARATOR ------------

Has Mepis 6 solved the "winmodem" problem?

Mr Bill

 

[Bad Dog]

Has Mepis 6 solved the "winmodem" problem?

Sorry Bill, but I don't do dial up, I have seen some good reports for
window type modems in the forum and it's a good place to ask for your
type of modem. I know Mark uses wifi and I use wifi and rj45 LAN and I
have no problem with my desktop or laptop.

--
regards,
Bad Dog

INTEL P-IV/HT 3.0GHz - 2X256 DDR3200 - SimplyMEPIS 6.0
KDE 3.5.1 - Kernel 2.6.15-26-686-SMP - My iMAC runs Debian Sarge

 

[Craig]

Craig wrote:




Are you running from the cd or is MEPIS installed?

Mepis is installed. No matter how many reboots:

- NIC works great in Mepis
- NIC is reported "unplugged" (and is unavailable) in win2k
- Only workaround so far...unplug the computer

The first (& only I can find) was reported in 2004 on Mepis 3.1 and
again by the same poster in 2005 w/Mepis 3.3.1 (mepis.org/node/6620).
I'll mail to (e-mail address removed) as you suggested in your previous post.

thx,
-Craig

 

[Craig]

ORIGINAL MESSAGE:




------------ REPLY SEPARATOR ------------

Has Mepis 6 solved the "winmodem" problem?

Mr Bill

You mean "the winmodem is /shite/ problem?"

<grin>
-Craig

 

[Bill Turner]

ORIGINAL MESSAGE:

You mean "the winmodem is /shite/ problem?"

<grin>
-Craig

------------ REPLY SEPARATOR ------------

"shite"?

Mr Bill

 

[Bill Turner]

ORIGINAL MESSAGE:

Sorry Bill, but I don't do dial up, I have seen some good reports for
window type modems in the forum and it's a good place to ask for your
type of modem. I know Mark uses wifi and I use wifi and rj45 LAN and I
have no problem with my desktop or laptop.

------------ REPLY SEPARATOR ------------

I browsed through MEPIS' hardware compatibility list and saw at least
one "winmodem" listed. Should have done that first.

Thanks,

Mr Bill

 

[Renan(tm)]

Em Tue, 25 Jul 2006 11:59:50 -0700, Bill Turner escreveu:

I browsed through MEPIS' hardware compatibility list and saw at least one
"winmodem" listed. Should have done that first.

What is the model of your winmodem?

My LG Winmodem (SmartLink chipset) worked OK under Linux, but only at
33.600bps.

 

[Bad Dog]

Mepis is installed. No matter how many reboots:

- NIC works great in Mepis
- NIC is reported "unplugged" (and is unavailable) in win2k
- Only workaround so far...unplug the computer

The first (& only I can find) was reported in 2004 on Mepis 3.1 and
again by the same poster in 2005 w/Mepis 3.3.1 (mepis.org/node/6620).
I'll mail to (e-mail address removed) as you suggested in your previous post.

thx,
-Craig

Is there any possible irq problem, can something be changed in the BIOS
that would help?

--
regards,
Bad Dog

INTEL P-IV/HT 3.0GHz - 2X256 DDR3200 - SimplyMEPIS 6.0
KDE 3.5.1 - Kernel 2.6.15-26-686-SMP - My iMAC runs Debian Sarge

 

[Bad Dog]

The first (& only I can find) was reported in 2004 on Mepis 3.1 and
again by the same poster in 2005 w/Mepis 3.3.1 (mepis.org/node/6620).
I'll mail to (e-mail address removed) as you suggested in your previous post.

Check the your link on the forum, there is a reported fix by updateing
the windows driver.


--
regards,
Bad Dog

INTEL P-IV/HT 3.0GHz - 2X256 DDR3200 - SimplyMEPIS 6.0
KDE 3.5.1 - Kernel 2.6.15-26-686-SMP - My iMAC runs Debian Sarge

 

[Mark Warner]

Check the your link on the forum, there is a reported fix by updateing
the windows driver.

Craig, pay attention to what Bad Dog here says -- I know him by another
nym in a different forum, and he is much more knowledgeable than I am
regarding MEPIS.

I have an oddity on my oldish (700MHz, 256MB) Dell laptop. If I *reboot*
from MEPIS or Ubuntu to XP on that machine, I lose the 'tap-click'
function on the touchpad. (The left and right mouse click buttons work
fine.) Boot direct to XP on powerup and it's there. <shrug>

 

[mike]

Something very odd; I tried a checksum (finally found out how to do it, and
it was correct, so I burnt a different CD, and this one works fine!

What kind of hardware do you have (cpu speed, memory, etc.)? Also, how
old is the CD drive you're using.

It even boots on my 433MHz 128Mb box, but appears too slow to be useful,
but it might well be ok installed on that one, the CD drive is clearly too
slow.

But the faulty CD's boot script was nothing like the new one, it was the
old longwinded starting this that and the other , and eventually failure.

Not that any of that matters, just all a bit wierd - the faulty one also
destroyed my USB modem drivers; linux has a real hardon for winmodems,
hasn't it? ;-)

Can't say what your chances are with that. Running on a DHCP lan here.

Connectivity *is* a problem; I need B/B because of linux filesizes, but I
don't want to buy yet another linux modem.

But I'm very happy with 98, very glad I never tried XP, andwill not move
again till forced by 98 becoming truly obsolete, like you can't get the
hardware any more.By that time I may be comfortable enough with linux to
commit completely, and get whatever hardware I need and damn the expense!

Thanks anyhow for your help - I'll have a play with it now

mike

 

[Mark Warner]

Something very odd; I tried a checksum (finally found out how to do
it, and it was correct, so I burnt a different CD, and this one works
fine!

Ah, yes, the old "bad burn" syndrome. Best practice is to burn the ISO
at a very slow speed.

It even boots on my 433MHz 128Mb box, but appears too slow to be
useful, but it might well be ok installed on that one, the CD drive
is clearly too slow.

The 433MHz processor should suffice, but for the Live CD to be
reasonably useful you really need 512MB RAM. Installed you could get
away with 256MB. 128MB just ain't gonna cut it either way.

Thanks anyhow for your help - I'll have a play with it now

Enjoy.

 

[Craig]

....

I have an oddity on my oldish (700MHz, 256MB) Dell laptop. If I *reboot*
from MEPIS or Ubuntu to XP on that machine, I lose the 'tap-click'
function on the touchpad.

Well;

Count your blessings. At least /your/ dell doesn't <cough> explode:
http://www.kare11.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=129084.

<g>

Fwiw, I got an email back from Warren (devATmepsi.org) who suggested the
problem is a conflict between two drivers in Mepis. I'll be testing
that one tonight & will let ya know.

-Craig

 

[Bad Dog]

Well;

Count your blessings. At least /your/ dell doesn't <cough> explode:
http://www.kare11.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=129084.

Yep, that's a good one, I'll stick with Toshiba thank you.

Fwiw, I got an email back from Warren (devATmepsi.org) who suggested the
problem is a conflict between two drivers in Mepis. I'll be testing
that one tonight & will let ya know.

-Craig

Good for you!

--
regards,
Bad Dog

INTEL P-IV/HT 3.0GHz - 2X256 DDR3200 - SimplyMEPIS 6.0
KDE 3.5.1 - Kernel 2.6.15-26-686-SMP - My iMAC runs Debian Sarge

 

[Mark Warner]

Count your blessings. At least /your/ dell doesn't <cough> explode:
http://www.kare11.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=129084.

I've seen that. I figure it's only a matter of time.

Fwiw, I got an email back from Warren (devATmepsi.org) who suggested
the problem is a conflict between two drivers in Mepis. I'll be
testing that one tonight & will let ya know.

Please do. This is a strange one.

I obviously am out of my league with this kind of thing, but it makes no
sense to me that a MEPIS driver could disable a NIC in Windows. <shrug>

It's pretty cool when the guy that writes the freaking distro responds
to the bug reports. Talk about a one-man-band...