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JL Amerson · Feb 25, 2004

Nope - although I am a tad bit crabby right now. (Just did my taxes and am
getting hosed by the government for taking my own money back out of my
401K.)

I'm a Golden Delicious or possibly a Fuji fan. Maiden name was Stayman.

Steve Easton said:
McIntosh??

Then again Crab Apples are red when they're ripe.
Sorry JL, couldn't resist.

--
Steve Easton
Microsoft MVP FrontPage
95isalive
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Crash Gordon · Feb 25, 2004

I hate paying taxes on my refunds to me that seems absurd.

Fujis are good.

Signed Granny

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| > > > Which are usually Red Delicious, or McIntosh (although, I'll take a
| > > > Macintosh if someone can spare one.).
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| > > > Jack Brewster - Microsoft FrontPage MVP
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JL Amerson · Feb 25, 2004

I hate having gone from a $1200 refund to a $300 one just because part of my
income was from a 401K account that was almost all of MY contributions, very
little from the company. I paid taxes on it but I STILL took an $800 hit.
Oh, the reason I cleared out my 401K - because I don't have a full-time job.
Sux, huh?

Okay - enuff venting. Dubya ticked me off earlier today and now the IRS. God
bless America.

I hate paying taxes on my refunds to me that seems absurd.

Fujis are good.

Signed Granny

| > >
| > >
| > > | > > > "Kathleen Anderson [MVP - FrontPage]" <[email protected]>
wrote
| in
| > > > message | > > > > Jacks

| > > >
| > > > Which are usually Red Delicious, or McIntosh (although, I'll take a
| > > > Macintosh if someone can spare one.).
| > > >
| > > >

| > > >
| > > > --
| > > > Jack Brewster - Microsoft FrontPage MVP
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Crash Gordon · Feb 25, 2004

Don't get me started. If I told you my story you'd cry...it almost gave me a stoke.
Ahhh whaddya gonna do...improvise adapt and overcome...

| I hate having gone from a $1200 refund to a $300 one just because part of my
| income was from a 401K account that was almost all of MY contributions, very
| little from the company. I paid taxes on it but I STILL took an $800 hit.
| Oh, the reason I cleared out my 401K - because I don't have a full-time job.
| Sux, huh?
|
| Okay - enuff venting. Dubya ticked me off earlier today and now the IRS. God
| bless America.
|
|
| | I hate paying taxes on my refunds to me that seems absurd.
|
| Fujis are good.
|
| Signed Granny

| | > >
| | > >
| | > > | | > > > "Kathleen Anderson [MVP - FrontPage]" <[email protected]>
| wrote
| | in
| | > > > message | | > > > > Jacks

| | > > >
| | > > > Which are usually Red Delicious, or McIntosh (although, I'll take a
| | > > > Macintosh if someone can spare one.).
| | > > >
| | > > >

| | > > >
| | > > > --
| | > > > Jack Brewster - Microsoft FrontPage MVP
| | > > >
| | > > >
| | > >
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JL Amerson · Feb 25, 2004

Well, can't improvise (IRS doesn't like that), can't adapt (although I do
vote), and can't overcome because taxes are one of the two sure-fire things
that will happen to us.

Bummer!
--

JoAnn

Do not meddle in the affairs of cats, for they are subtle and will piss on
your computer.
--Bruce Graham

Don't get me started. If I told you my story you'd cry...it almost gave me a
stoke.
Ahhh whaddya gonna do...improvise adapt and overcome...

| I hate having gone from a $1200 refund to a $300 one just because part of
my
| income was from a 401K account that was almost all of MY contributions,
very
| little from the company. I paid taxes on it but I STILL took an $800 hit.
| Oh, the reason I cleared out my 401K - because I don't have a full-time
job.
| Sux, huh?
|
| Okay - enuff venting. Dubya ticked me off earlier today and now the IRS.
God
| bless America.
|
|
| | I hate paying taxes on my refunds to me that seems absurd.
|
| Fujis are good.
|
| Signed Granny

| | > >
| | > >
| | > > | | > > > "Kathleen Anderson [MVP - FrontPage]" <[email protected]>
| wrote
| | in
| | > > > message | | > > > > Jacks

| | > > >
| | > > > Which are usually Red Delicious, or McIntosh (although, I'll take
a
| | > > > Macintosh if someone can spare one.).
| | > > >
| | > > >

| | > > >
| | > > > --
| | > > > Jack Brewster - Microsoft FrontPage MVP
| | > > >
| | > > >
| | > >
| | > >
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Steve Easton · Feb 25, 2004

Yep, that 10 percent penalty is a bummer.

--
Steve Easton
MS MVP FrontPage
95isalive
This site is best viewed..................
...............................with a computer

JL Amerson said:
Nope - although I am a tad bit crabby right now. (Just did my taxes and am
getting hosed by the government for taking my own money back out of my
401K.)

I'm a Golden Delicious or possibly a Fuji fan. Maiden name was Stayman.

Steve Easton said:

McIntosh??

Then again Crab Apples are red when they're ripe.
Sorry JL, couldn't resist.

--
Steve Easton
Microsoft MVP FrontPage
95isalive
This site is best viewed............
.......................with a computer

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Tom Pepper Willett · Feb 25, 2004

Until you turn 55, and there is no penalty. ;-)
--
Tom Pepper Willett
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
http://www.microsoft.com/office/frontpage/prodinfo/default.mspx
http://msdn.microsoft.com/frontpage
-----

Steve Easton said:
Yep, that 10 percent penalty is a bummer.

--
Steve Easton
MS MVP FrontPage
95isalive
This site is best viewed..................
..............................with a computer

Stefan B Rusynko · Feb 25, 2004

Don't you mean after you turn 59-1/2 there is no penalty

--

| Until you turn 55, and there is no penalty. ;-)
| --
| Tom Pepper Willett
| Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
| http://www.microsoft.com/office/frontpage/prodinfo/default.mspx
| http://msdn.microsoft.com/frontpage
| -----
| | > Yep, that 10 percent penalty is a bummer.
| >
| > --
| > Steve Easton
| > MS MVP FrontPage
| > 95isalive
| > This site is best viewed..................
| > ..............................with a computer
| > | > > Nope - although I am a tad bit crabby right now. (Just did my taxes and
| am
| > > getting hosed by the government for taking my own money back out of my
| > > 401K.)
| > >
| > > I'm a Golden Delicious or possibly a Fuji fan. Maiden name was Stayman.
| > >
| > > | > > > McIntosh??
| > > >
| > > > Then again Crab Apples are red when they're ripe.
| > > > Sorry JL, couldn't resist.
| > > >
| > > > --
| > > > Steve Easton
| > > > Microsoft MVP FrontPage
| > > > 95isalive
| > > > This site is best viewed............
| > > > .......................with a computer
| > > >
| > > > | > > > > Gotta have a soft, sweet, yellow apple here.
| > > > >
| > > > > Funny thing is my maiden name was a variety of apple - a red one.
|

| > > > >
| > > > >
| > > > > | > > > > > "Kathleen Anderson [MVP - FrontPage]" <[email protected]>
| > wrote
| > > in
| > > > > > message | > > > > > > Jacks

| > > > > >
| > > > > > Which are usually Red Delicious, or McIntosh (although, I'll take
| a
| > > > > > Macintosh if someone can spare one.).
| > > > > >
| > > > > >

| > > > > >
| > > > > > --
| > > > > > Jack Brewster - Microsoft FrontPage MVP
| > > > > >
| > > > > >
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Tom Pepper Willett · Feb 25, 2004

Nope. 55. Just read it in the newspaper about 3 weeks ago. If you should
*terminate* employment for any reason and want to withdraw your funds, no
penalty.
--
Tom Pepper Willett
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
http://www.microsoft.com/office/frontpage/prodinfo/default.mspx
http://msdn.microsoft.com/frontpage
-----

Stefan B Rusynko said:
Don't you mean after you turn 59-1/2 there is no penalty

--

| Until you turn 55, and there is no penalty. ;-)
| --
| Tom Pepper Willett
| Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
| http://www.microsoft.com/office/frontpage/prodinfo/default.mspx
| http://msdn.microsoft.com/frontpage
| -----
| | > Yep, that 10 percent penalty is a bummer.
| >
| > --
| > Steve Easton
| > MS MVP FrontPage
| > 95isalive
| > This site is best viewed..................
| > ..............................with a computer
| > | > > Nope - although I am a tad bit crabby right now. (Just did my taxes and
| am
| > > getting hosed by the government for taking my own money back out of my
| > > 401K.)
| > >
| > > I'm a Golden Delicious or possibly a Fuji fan. Maiden name was Stayman.
| > >
| > > | > > > McIntosh??
| > > >
| > > > Then again Crab Apples are red when they're ripe.
| > > > Sorry JL, couldn't resist.
| > > >
| > > > --
| > > > Steve Easton
| > > > Microsoft MVP FrontPage
| > > > 95isalive
| > > > This site is best viewed............
| > > > .......................with a computer
| > > >
| > > > | > > > > Gotta have a soft, sweet, yellow apple here.
| > > > >
| > > > > Funny thing is my maiden name was a variety of apple - a red one.
|
| > > > >
| > > > >
| > > > > | > > > > > "Kathleen Anderson [MVP - FrontPage]"

Joe Rohn · Feb 25, 2004

I thought it was 59 1/2 too..but since I am closing in on 55 I hope Tom is
right!

--
Joe

Forum Crafters:
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Stefan B Rusynko said:
Don't you mean after you turn 59-1/2 there is no penalty

--

| Until you turn 55, and there is no penalty. ;-)
| --
| Tom Pepper Willett
| Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
| http://www.microsoft.com/office/frontpage/prodinfo/default.mspx
| http://msdn.microsoft.com/frontpage
| -----
| | > Yep, that 10 percent penalty is a bummer.
| >
| > --
| > Steve Easton
| > MS MVP FrontPage
| > 95isalive
| > This site is best viewed..................
| > ..............................with a computer
| > | > > Nope - although I am a tad bit crabby right now. (Just did my taxes and
| am
| > > getting hosed by the government for taking my own money back out of my
| > > 401K.)
| > >
| > > I'm a Golden Delicious or possibly a Fuji fan. Maiden name was Stayman.
| > >
| > > | > > > McIntosh??
| > > >
| > > > Then again Crab Apples are red when they're ripe.
| > > > Sorry JL, couldn't resist.
| > > >
| > > > --
| > > > Steve Easton
| > > > Microsoft MVP FrontPage
| > > > 95isalive
| > > > This site is best viewed............
| > > > .......................with a computer
| > > >
| > > > | > > > > Gotta have a soft, sweet, yellow apple here.
| > > > >
| > > > > Funny thing is my maiden name was a variety of apple - a red one.
|
| > > > >
| > > > >
| > > > > | > > > > > "Kathleen Anderson [MVP - FrontPage]"

Tom Pepper Willett · Feb 25, 2004

We checked with our 401k admin people also, and they verified that if you
terminate employment you can withdraw without penalty. It may be specific
to certain 401k plans, but I don't think so.

Tom

Joe Rohn said:
I thought it was 59 1/2 too..but since I am closing in on 55 I hope Tom is
right!

--
Joe

Forum Crafters:
http://www.forumcrafters.com
FrontPage Users Forums:
http://www.timeforweb.com/frontpage

Stefan B Rusynko said:

Don't you mean after you turn 59-1/2 there is no penalty

--

| Until you turn 55, and there is no penalty. ;-)
| --
| Tom Pepper Willett
| Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
| http://www.microsoft.com/office/frontpage/prodinfo/default.mspx
| http://msdn.microsoft.com/frontpage
| -----
| | > Yep, that 10 percent penalty is a bummer.
| >
| > --
| > Steve Easton
| > MS MVP FrontPage
| > 95isalive
| > This site is best viewed..................
| > ..............................with a computer
| > | > > Nope - although I am a tad bit crabby right now. (Just did my

Click to expand...

taxes

and
| am
| > > getting hosed by the government for taking my own money back out

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of

my
| > > 401K.)
| > >
| > > I'm a Golden Delicious or possibly a Fuji fan. Maiden name was Stayman.
| > >
| > > | > > > McIntosh??
| > > >
| > > > Then again Crab Apples are red when they're ripe.
| > > > Sorry JL, couldn't resist.
| > > >
| > > > --
| > > > Steve Easton
| > > > Microsoft MVP FrontPage
| > > > 95isalive
| > > > This site is best viewed............
| > > > .......................with a computer
| > > >
| > > > | > > > > Gotta have a soft, sweet, yellow apple here.
| > > > >
| > > > > Funny thing is my maiden name was a variety of apple - a red one.
|
| > > > >
| > > > >
| > > > > | > > > > > "Kathleen Anderson [MVP - FrontPage]"

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| > wrote
| > > in
| > > > > > message | > > > > > > Jacks
| > > > > >
| > > > > > Which are usually Red Delicious, or McIntosh (although, I'll take
| a
| > > > > > Macintosh if someone can spare one.).
| > > > > >
| > > > > >
| > > > > >
| > > > > > --
| > > > > > Jack Brewster - Microsoft FrontPage MVP
| > > > > >
| > > > > >
| > > > >
| > > > >
| > > >
| > > >
| > >
| > >
| >
| >
|
|

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Crash Gordon · Feb 25, 2004

We went from a lighthearted Apple game to a depressing TAX thing - yech.

Apple Butter

| We checked with our 401k admin people also, and they verified that if you
| terminate employment you can withdraw without penalty. It may be specific
| to certain 401k plans, but I don't think so.
|
| Tom
| | > I thought it was 59 1/2 too..but since I am closing in on 55 I hope Tom is
| > right!
| >
| > --
| > Joe
| >
| > Forum Crafters:
| > http://www.forumcrafters.com
| > FrontPage Users Forums:
| > http://www.timeforweb.com/frontpage
| >
| > | > > Don't you mean after you turn 59-1/2 there is no penalty
| > >
| > > --
| > >
| > > _____________________________________________
| > > SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
| > > "Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
| > > To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
| > > http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| > > _____________________________________________
| > >
| > >
| > | > > | Until you turn 55, and there is no penalty. ;-)
| > > | --
| > > | Tom Pepper Willett
| > > | Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
| > > | http://www.microsoft.com/office/frontpage/prodinfo/default.mspx
| > > | http://msdn.microsoft.com/frontpage
| > > | -----
| > > | | > > | > Yep, that 10 percent penalty is a bummer.
| > > | >
| > > | > --
| > > | > Steve Easton
| > > | > MS MVP FrontPage
| > > | > 95isalive
| > > | > This site is best viewed..................
| > > | > ..............................with a computer
| > > | > | > > | > > Nope - although I am a tad bit crabby right now. (Just did my
| taxes
| > and
| > > | am
| > > | > > getting hosed by the government for taking my own money back out
| of
| > my
| > > | > > 401K.)
| > > | > >
| > > | > > I'm a Golden Delicious or possibly a Fuji fan. Maiden name was
| > Stayman.
| > > | > >
| > > | > > | > > | > > > McIntosh??
| > > | > > >
| > > | > > > Then again Crab Apples are red when they're ripe.
| > > | > > > Sorry JL, couldn't resist.
| > > | > > >
| > > | > > > --
| > > | > > > Steve Easton
| > > | > > > Microsoft MVP FrontPage
| > > | > > > 95isalive
| > > | > > > This site is best viewed............
| > > | > > > .......................with a computer
| > > | > > >
| > > | > > > | > > | > > > > Gotta have a soft, sweet, yellow apple here.
| > > | > > > >
| > > | > > > > Funny thing is my maiden name was a variety of apple - a red
| > one.
| > > |

| > > | > > > >
| > > | > > > >
| > message
| > > | > > > > | > > | > > > > > "Kathleen Anderson [MVP - FrontPage]"
| > <[email protected]>
| > > | > wrote
| > > | > > in
| > > | > > > > > message | > > | > > > > > > Jacks

| > > | > > > > >
| > > | > > > > > Which are usually Red Delicious, or McIntosh (although, I'll
| > take
| > > | a
| > > | > > > > > Macintosh if someone can spare one.).
| > > | > > > > >
| > > | > > > > >

| > > | > > > > >
| > > | > > > > > --
| > > | > > > > > Jack Brewster - Microsoft FrontPage MVP
| > > | > > > > >
| > > | > > > > >
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chris leeds · Feb 25, 2004

but it's a big long thread that might have benefited someone. more than the
original poster may have hoped for.
I did a google and the only SHE / APPLE thing I could come up with is a
shemale from Thailand named Apple.
it's not what I wanted. ;-)

We went from a lighthearted Apple game to a depressing TAX thing - yech.

Apple Butter

| We checked with our 401k admin people also, and they verified that if you
| terminate employment you can withdraw without penalty. It may be specific
| to certain 401k plans, but I don't think so.
|
| Tom
| | > I thought it was 59 1/2 too..but since I am closing in on 55 I hope Tom
is
| > right!
| >
| > --
| > Joe
| >
| > Forum Crafters:
| > http://www.forumcrafters.com
| > FrontPage Users Forums:
| > http://www.timeforweb.com/frontpage
| >
| > | > > Don't you mean after you turn 59-1/2 there is no penalty
| > >
| > > --
| > >
| > > _____________________________________________
| > > SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
| > > "Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
| > > To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
| > > http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| > > _____________________________________________
| > >
| > >
| > | > > | Until you turn 55, and there is no penalty. ;-)
| > > | --
| > > | Tom Pepper Willett
| > > | Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
| > > | http://www.microsoft.com/office/frontpage/prodinfo/default.mspx
| > > | http://msdn.microsoft.com/frontpage
| > > | -----
| > > | | > > | > Yep, that 10 percent penalty is a bummer.
| > > | >
| > > | > --
| > > | > Steve Easton
| > > | > MS MVP FrontPage
| > > | > 95isalive
| > > | > This site is best viewed..................
| > > | > ..............................with a computer
| > > | > | > > | > > Nope - although I am a tad bit crabby right now. (Just did my
| taxes
| > and
| > > | am
| > > | > > getting hosed by the government for taking my own money back out
| of
| > my
| > > | > > 401K.)
| > > | > >
| > > | > > I'm a Golden Delicious or possibly a Fuji fan. Maiden name was
| > Stayman.
| > > | > >
| > > | > > | > > | > > > McIntosh??
| > > | > > >
| > > | > > > Then again Crab Apples are red when they're ripe.
| > > | > > > Sorry JL, couldn't resist.
| > > | > > >
| > > | > > > --
| > > | > > > Steve Easton
| > > | > > > Microsoft MVP FrontPage
| > > | > > > 95isalive
| > > | > > > This site is best viewed............
| > > | > > > .......................with a computer
| > > | > > >
| > > | > > > | > > | > > > > Gotta have a soft, sweet, yellow apple here.
| > > | > > > >
| > > | > > > > Funny thing is my maiden name was a variety of apple - a red
| > one.
| > > |

| > > | > > > >
| > > | > > > >
| > message
| > > | > > > > | > > | > > > > > "Kathleen Anderson [MVP - FrontPage]"
| > <[email protected]>
| > > | > wrote
| > > | > > in
| > > | > > > > > message | > > | > > > > > > Jacks

| > > | > > > > >
| > > | > > > > > Which are usually Red Delicious, or McIntosh (although,
I'll
| > take
| > > | a
| > > | > > > > > Macintosh if someone can spare one.).
| > > | > > > > >
| > > | > > > > >

| > > | > > > > >
| > > | > > > > > --
| > > | > > > > > Jack Brewster - Microsoft FrontPage MVP
| > > | > > > > >
| > > | > > > > >
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Crash Gordon · Feb 25, 2004

oh wunderful! remind me not to look for that.

| but it's a big long thread that might have benefited someone. more than the
| original poster may have hoped for.
| I did a google and the only SHE / APPLE thing I could come up with is a
| shemale from Thailand named Apple.
| it's not what I wanted. ;-)
|
| | We went from a lighthearted Apple game to a depressing TAX thing - yech.
|
| Apple Butter
|
|
|
| | | We checked with our 401k admin people also, and they verified that if you
| | terminate employment you can withdraw without penalty. It may be specific
| | to certain 401k plans, but I don't think so.
| |
| | Tom
| | | | > I thought it was 59 1/2 too..but since I am closing in on 55 I hope Tom
| is
| | > right!
| | >
| | > --
| | > Joe
| | >
| | > Forum Crafters:
| | > http://www.forumcrafters.com
| | > FrontPage Users Forums:
| | > http://www.timeforweb.com/frontpage
| | >
| | > | | > > Don't you mean after you turn 59-1/2 there is no penalty
| | > >
| | > > --
| | > >
| | > > _____________________________________________
| | > > SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
| | > > "Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
| | > > To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
| | > > http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| | > > _____________________________________________
| | > >
| | > >
| | > | | > > | Until you turn 55, and there is no penalty. ;-)
| | > > | --
| | > > | Tom Pepper Willett
| | > > | Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
| | > > | http://www.microsoft.com/office/frontpage/prodinfo/default.mspx
| | > > | http://msdn.microsoft.com/frontpage
| | > > | -----
| | > > | | | > > | > Yep, that 10 percent penalty is a bummer.
| | > > | >
| | > > | > --
| | > > | > Steve Easton
| | > > | > MS MVP FrontPage
| | > > | > 95isalive
| | > > | > This site is best viewed..................
| | > > | > ..............................with a computer
| | > > | > | | > > | > > Nope - although I am a tad bit crabby right now. (Just did my
| | taxes
| | > and
| | > > | am
| | > > | > > getting hosed by the government for taking my own money back out
| | of
| | > my
| | > > | > > 401K.)
| | > > | > >
| | > > | > > I'm a Golden Delicious or possibly a Fuji fan. Maiden name was
| | > Stayman.
| | > > | > >
| | > > | > > | | > > | > > > McIntosh??
| | > > | > > >
| | > > | > > > Then again Crab Apples are red when they're ripe.
| | > > | > > > Sorry JL, couldn't resist.
| | > > | > > >
| | > > | > > > --
| | > > | > > > Steve Easton
| | > > | > > > Microsoft MVP FrontPage
| | > > | > > > 95isalive
| | > > | > > > This site is best viewed............
| | > > | > > > .......................with a computer
| | > > | > > >
| | > > | > > > | | > > | > > > > Gotta have a soft, sweet, yellow apple here.
| | > > | > > > >
| | > > | > > > > Funny thing is my maiden name was a variety of apple - a red
| | > one.
| | > > |

| | > > | > > > >
| | > > | > > > >
| | > message
| | > > | > > > > | | > > | > > > > > "Kathleen Anderson [MVP - FrontPage]"
| | > <[email protected]>
| | > > | > wrote
| | > > | > > in
| | > > | > > > > > message | | > > | > > > > > > Jacks

| | > > | > > > > >
| | > > | > > > > > Which are usually Red Delicious, or McIntosh (although,
| I'll
| | > take
| | > > | a
| | > > | > > > > > Macintosh if someone can spare one.).
| | > > | > > > > >
| | > > | > > > > >

| | > > | > > > > >
| | > > | > > > > > --
| | > > | > > > > > Jack Brewster - Microsoft FrontPage MVP
| | > > | > > > > >
| | > > | > > > > >
| | > > | > > > >
| | > > | > > > >
| | > > | > > >
| | > > | > > >
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| | > > |
| | > >
| | > >
| | >
| | >
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|

Tom Pepper Willett · Feb 25, 2004

Actually, we did not discuss taxes. We discussed penalties.
--
Tom Pepper Willett
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
http://www.microsoft.com/office/frontpage/prodinfo/default.mspx
http://msdn.microsoft.com/frontpage
-----
We went from a lighthearted Apple game to a depressing TAX thing - yech.

Apple Butter

| We checked with our 401k admin people also, and they verified that if you
| terminate employment you can withdraw without penalty. It may be specific
| to certain 401k plans, but I don't think so.
|
| Tom
| | > I thought it was 59 1/2 too..but since I am closing in on 55 I hope Tom
is
| > right!
| >
| > --
| > Joe
| >
| > Forum Crafters:
| > http://www.forumcrafters.com
| > FrontPage Users Forums:
| > http://www.timeforweb.com/frontpage
| >
| > | > > Don't you mean after you turn 59-1/2 there is no penalty
| > >
| > > --
| > >
| > > _____________________________________________
| > > SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
| > > "Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
| > > To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
| > > http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| > > _____________________________________________
| > >
| > >
| > | > > | Until you turn 55, and there is no penalty. ;-)
| > > | --
| > > | Tom Pepper Willett
| > > | Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
| > > | http://www.microsoft.com/office/frontpage/prodinfo/default.mspx
| > > | http://msdn.microsoft.com/frontpage
| > > | -----
| > > | | > > | > Yep, that 10 percent penalty is a bummer.
| > > | >
| > > | > --
| > > | > Steve Easton
| > > | > MS MVP FrontPage
| > > | > 95isalive
| > > | > This site is best viewed..................
| > > | > ..............................with a computer
| > > | > | > > | > > Nope - although I am a tad bit crabby right now. (Just did my
| taxes
| > and
| > > | am
| > > | > > getting hosed by the government for taking my own money back out
| of
| > my
| > > | > > 401K.)
| > > | > >
| > > | > > I'm a Golden Delicious or possibly a Fuji fan. Maiden name was
| > Stayman.
| > > | > >
| > > | > > | > > | > > > McIntosh??
| > > | > > >
| > > | > > > Then again Crab Apples are red when they're ripe.
| > > | > > > Sorry JL, couldn't resist.
| > > | > > >
| > > | > > > --
| > > | > > > Steve Easton
| > > | > > > Microsoft MVP FrontPage
| > > | > > > 95isalive
| > > | > > > This site is best viewed............
| > > | > > > .......................with a computer
| > > | > > >
| > > | > > > | > > | > > > > Gotta have a soft, sweet, yellow apple here.
| > > | > > > >
| > > | > > > > Funny thing is my maiden name was a variety of apple - a red
| > one.
| > > |

| > > | > > > >
| > > | > > > >
| > message
| > > | > > > > | > > | > > > > > "Kathleen Anderson [MVP - FrontPage]"
| > <[email protected]>
| > > | > wrote
| > > | > > in
| > > | > > > > > message | > > | > > > > > > Jacks

| > > | > > > > >
| > > | > > > > > Which are usually Red Delicious, or McIntosh (although,
I'll
| > take
| > > | a
| > > | > > > > > Macintosh if someone can spare one.).
| > > | > > > > >
| > > | > > > > >

| > > | > > > > >
| > > | > > > > > --
| > > | > > > > > Jack Brewster - Microsoft FrontPage MVP
| > > | > > > > >
| > > | > > > > >
| > > | > > > >
| > > | > > > >
| > > | > > >
| > > | > > >
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| > >
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| >
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|
|

Crash Gordon · Feb 25, 2004

aren't they the same?

| Actually, we did not discuss taxes. We discussed penalties.
| --
| Tom Pepper Willett
| Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
| http://www.microsoft.com/office/frontpage/prodinfo/default.mspx
| http://msdn.microsoft.com/frontpage
| -----
| | We went from a lighthearted Apple game to a depressing TAX thing - yech.
|
| Apple Butter
|
|
|
| | | We checked with our 401k admin people also, and they verified that if you
| | terminate employment you can withdraw without penalty. It may be specific
| | to certain 401k plans, but I don't think so.
| |
| | Tom
| | | | > I thought it was 59 1/2 too..but since I am closing in on 55 I hope Tom
| is
| | > right!
| | >
| | > --
| | > Joe
| | >
| | > Forum Crafters:
| | > http://www.forumcrafters.com
| | > FrontPage Users Forums:
| | > http://www.timeforweb.com/frontpage
| | >
| | > | | > > Don't you mean after you turn 59-1/2 there is no penalty
| | > >
| | > > --
| | > >
| | > > _____________________________________________
| | > > SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
| | > > "Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
| | > > To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
| | > > http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| | > > _____________________________________________
| | > >
| | > >
| | > | | > > | Until you turn 55, and there is no penalty. ;-)
| | > > | --
| | > > | Tom Pepper Willett
| | > > | Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
| | > > | http://www.microsoft.com/office/frontpage/prodinfo/default.mspx
| | > > | http://msdn.microsoft.com/frontpage
| | > > | -----
| | > > | | | > > | > Yep, that 10 percent penalty is a bummer.
| | > > | >
| | > > | > --
| | > > | > Steve Easton
| | > > | > MS MVP FrontPage
| | > > | > 95isalive
| | > > | > This site is best viewed..................
| | > > | > ..............................with a computer
| | > > | > | | > > | > > Nope - although I am a tad bit crabby right now. (Just did my
| | taxes
| | > and
| | > > | am
| | > > | > > getting hosed by the government for taking my own money back out
| | of
| | > my
| | > > | > > 401K.)
| | > > | > >
| | > > | > > I'm a Golden Delicious or possibly a Fuji fan. Maiden name was
| | > Stayman.
| | > > | > >
| | > > | > > | | > > | > > > McIntosh??
| | > > | > > >
| | > > | > > > Then again Crab Apples are red when they're ripe.
| | > > | > > > Sorry JL, couldn't resist.
| | > > | > > >
| | > > | > > > --
| | > > | > > > Steve Easton
| | > > | > > > Microsoft MVP FrontPage
| | > > | > > > 95isalive
| | > > | > > > This site is best viewed............
| | > > | > > > .......................with a computer
| | > > | > > >
| | > > | > > > | | > > | > > > > Gotta have a soft, sweet, yellow apple here.
| | > > | > > > >
| | > > | > > > > Funny thing is my maiden name was a variety of apple - a red
| | > one.
| | > > |

| | > > | > > > >
| | > > | > > > >
| | > message
| | > > | > > > > | | > > | > > > > > "Kathleen Anderson [MVP - FrontPage]"
| | > <[email protected]>
| | > > | > wrote
| | > > | > > in
| | > > | > > > > > message | | > > | > > > > > > Jacks

| | > > | > > > > >
| | > > | > > > > > Which are usually Red Delicious, or McIntosh (although,
| I'll
| | > take
| | > > | a
| | > > | > > > > > Macintosh if someone can spare one.).
| | > > | > > > > >
| | > > | > > > > >

| | > > | > > > > >
| | > > | > > > > > --
| | > > | > > > > > Jack Brewster - Microsoft FrontPage MVP
| | > > | > > > > >
| | > > | > > > > >
| | > > | > > > >
| | > > | > > > >
| | > > | > > >
| | > > | > > >
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| |
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|
|

chris leeds · Feb 25, 2004

aren't they the same thing. did you know the 16th amendment wasn't properly
ratified? it takes 2/3's of the shemales named apple. ;-)

Tom Pepper Willett said:
Actually, we did not discuss taxes. We discussed penalties.
--
Tom Pepper Willett
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
http://www.microsoft.com/office/frontpage/prodinfo/default.mspx
http://msdn.microsoft.com/frontpage
-----
We went from a lighthearted Apple game to a depressing TAX thing - yech.

Apple Butter

| We checked with our 401k admin people also, and they verified that if you
| terminate employment you can withdraw without penalty. It may be specific
| to certain 401k plans, but I don't think so.
|
| Tom
| | > I thought it was 59 1/2 too..but since I am closing in on 55 I hope Tom
is
| > right!
| >
| > --
| > Joe
| >
| > Forum Crafters:
| > http://www.forumcrafters.com
| > FrontPage Users Forums:
| > http://www.timeforweb.com/frontpage
| >
| > | > > Don't you mean after you turn 59-1/2 there is no penalty
| > >
| > > --
| > >
| > > _____________________________________________
| > > SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
| > > "Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
| > > To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
| > > http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| > > _____________________________________________
| > >
| > >
| > | > > | Until you turn 55, and there is no penalty. ;-)
| > > | --
| > > | Tom Pepper Willett
| > > | Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
| > > | http://www.microsoft.com/office/frontpage/prodinfo/default.mspx
| > > | http://msdn.microsoft.com/frontpage
| > > | -----
| > > | | > > | > Yep, that 10 percent penalty is a bummer.
| > > | >
| > > | > --
| > > | > Steve Easton
| > > | > MS MVP FrontPage
| > > | > 95isalive
| > > | > This site is best viewed..................
| > > | > ..............................with a computer
| > > | > | > > | > > Nope - although I am a tad bit crabby right now. (Just did my
| taxes
| > and
| > > | am
| > > | > > getting hosed by the government for taking my own money back out
| of
| > my
| > > | > > 401K.)
| > > | > >
| > > | > > I'm a Golden Delicious or possibly a Fuji fan. Maiden name was
| > Stayman.
| > > | > >
| > > | > > | > > | > > > McIntosh??
| > > | > > >
| > > | > > > Then again Crab Apples are red when they're ripe.
| > > | > > > Sorry JL, couldn't resist.
| > > | > > >
| > > | > > > --
| > > | > > > Steve Easton
| > > | > > > Microsoft MVP FrontPage
| > > | > > > 95isalive
| > > | > > > This site is best viewed............
| > > | > > > .......................with a computer
| > > | > > >
| > > | > > > | > > | > > > > Gotta have a soft, sweet, yellow apple here.
| > > | > > > >
| > > | > > > > Funny thing is my maiden name was a variety of apple - a red
| > one.
| > > |
| > > | > > > >
| > > | > > > >
| > message
| > > | > > > > | > > | > > > > > "Kathleen Anderson [MVP - FrontPage]"
| > <[email protected]>
| > > | > wrote
| > > | > > in
| > > | > > > > > message | > > | > > > > > > Jacks
| > > | > > > > >
| > > | > > > > > Which are usually Red Delicious, or McIntosh (although,
I'll
| > take
| > > | a
| > > | > > > > > Macintosh if someone can spare one.).
| > > | > > > > >
| > > | > > > > >
| > > | > > > > >
| > > | > > > > > --
| > > | > > > > > Jack Brewster - Microsoft FrontPage MVP
| > > | > > > > >
| > > | > > > > >
| > > | > > > >
| > > | > > > >
| > > | > > >
| > > | > > >
| > > | > >
| > > | > >
| > > | >
| > > | >
| > > |
| > > |
| > >
| > >
| >
| >
|
|

Crash Gordon · Feb 25, 2004

The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several states, and without regard to any census or enumeration.

Sounds like we should be talking about a Tea Party, rather than Apples

A long and winding road....

| aren't they the same thing. did you know the 16th amendment wasn't properly
| ratified? it takes 2/3's of the shemales named apple. ;-)
|
| | > Actually, we did not discuss taxes. We discussed penalties.
| > --
| > Tom Pepper Willett
| > Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
| > http://www.microsoft.com/office/frontpage/prodinfo/default.mspx
| > http://msdn.microsoft.com/frontpage
| > -----
| > | > We went from a lighthearted Apple game to a depressing TAX thing - yech.
| >
| > Apple Butter
| >
| >
| >
| > | > | We checked with our 401k admin people also, and they verified that if
| you
| > | terminate employment you can withdraw without penalty. It may be
| specific
| > | to certain 401k plans, but I don't think so.
| > |
| > | Tom
| > | | > | > I thought it was 59 1/2 too..but since I am closing in on 55 I hope
| Tom
| > is
| > | > right!
| > | >
| > | > --
| > | > Joe
| > | >
| > | > Forum Crafters:
| > | > http://www.forumcrafters.com
| > | > FrontPage Users Forums:
| > | > http://www.timeforweb.com/frontpage
| > | >
| > | > | > | > > Don't you mean after you turn 59-1/2 there is no penalty
| > | > >
| > | > > --
| > | > >
| > | > > _____________________________________________
| > | > > SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
| > | > > "Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
| > | > > To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
| > | > > http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| > | > > _____________________________________________
| > | > >
| > | > >
| > | > | > | > > | Until you turn 55, and there is no penalty. ;-)
| > | > > | --
| > | > > | Tom Pepper Willett
| > | > > | Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
| > | > > | http://www.microsoft.com/office/frontpage/prodinfo/default.mspx
| > | > > | http://msdn.microsoft.com/frontpage
| > | > > | -----
| > | > > | | > | > > | > Yep, that 10 percent penalty is a bummer.
| > | > > | >
| > | > > | > --
| > | > > | > Steve Easton
| > | > > | > MS MVP FrontPage
| > | > > | > 95isalive
| > | > > | > This site is best viewed..................
| > | > > | > ..............................with a computer
| > | > > | > | > | > > | > > Nope - although I am a tad bit crabby right now. (Just did my
| > | taxes
| > | > and
| > | > > | am
| > | > > | > > getting hosed by the government for taking my own money back
| out
| > | of
| > | > my
| > | > > | > > 401K.)
| > | > > | > >
| > | > > | > > I'm a Golden Delicious or possibly a Fuji fan. Maiden name was
| > | > Stayman.
| > | > > | > >
| > | > > | > > | > | > > | > > > McIntosh??
| > | > > | > > >
| > | > > | > > > Then again Crab Apples are red when they're ripe.
| > | > > | > > > Sorry JL, couldn't resist.
| > | > > | > > >
| > | > > | > > > --
| > | > > | > > > Steve Easton
| > | > > | > > > Microsoft MVP FrontPage
| > | > > | > > > 95isalive
| > | > > | > > > This site is best viewed............
| > | > > | > > > .......................with a computer
| > | > > | > > >
| > | > > | > > > | > | > > | > > > > Gotta have a soft, sweet, yellow apple here.
| > | > > | > > > >
| > | > > | > > > > Funny thing is my maiden name was a variety of apple - a
| red
| > | > one.
| > | > > |

| > | > > | > > > >
| > | > > | > > > >
| in
| > | > message
| > | > > | > > > > | > | > > | > > > > > "Kathleen Anderson [MVP - FrontPage]"
| > | > <[email protected]>
| > | > > | > wrote
| > | > > | > > in
| > | > > | > > > > > message
| | > | > > | > > > > > > Jacks

| > | > > | > > > > >
| > | > > | > > > > > Which are usually Red Delicious, or McIntosh (although,
| > I'll
| > | > take
| > | > > | a
| > | > > | > > > > > Macintosh if someone can spare one.).
| > | > > | > > > > >
| > | > > | > > > > >

| > | > > | > > > > >
| > | > > | > > > > > --
| > | > > | > > > > > Jack Brewster - Microsoft FrontPage MVP
| > | > > | > > > > >
| > | > > | > > > > >
| > | > > | > > > >
| > | > > | > > > >
| > | > > | > > >
| > | > > | > > >
| > | > > | > >
| > | > > | > >
| > | > > | >
| > | > > | >
| > | > > |
| > | > > |
| > | > >
| > | > >
| > | >
| > | >
| > |
| > |
| >
| >
|
|

Tom Pepper Willett · Feb 25, 2004

Nope.
In addition to paying a penalty, you also pay the taxes.
--
Tom Pepper Willett
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
http://www.microsoft.com/office/frontpage/prodinfo/default.mspx
http://msdn.microsoft.com/frontpage
-----
aren't they the same?

| Actually, we did not discuss taxes. We discussed penalties.
| --
| Tom Pepper Willett
| Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
| http://www.microsoft.com/office/frontpage/prodinfo/default.mspx
| http://msdn.microsoft.com/frontpage
| -----
| | We went from a lighthearted Apple game to a depressing TAX thing - yech.
|
| Apple Butter
|
|
|
| | | We checked with our 401k admin people also, and they verified that if
you
| | terminate employment you can withdraw without penalty. It may be
specific
| | to certain 401k plans, but I don't think so.
| |
| | Tom
| | | | > I thought it was 59 1/2 too..but since I am closing in on 55 I hope
Tom
| is
| | > right!
| | >
| | > --
| | > Joe
| | >
| | > Forum Crafters:
| | > http://www.forumcrafters.com
| | > FrontPage Users Forums:
| | > http://www.timeforweb.com/frontpage
| | >
| | > | | > > Don't you mean after you turn 59-1/2 there is no penalty
| | > >
| | > > --
| | > >
| | > > _____________________________________________
| | > > SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
| | > > "Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
| | > > To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
| | > > http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| | > > _____________________________________________
| | > >
| | > >
| | > | | > > | Until you turn 55, and there is no penalty. ;-)
| | > > | --
| | > > | Tom Pepper Willett
| | > > | Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
| | > > | http://www.microsoft.com/office/frontpage/prodinfo/default.mspx
| | > > | http://msdn.microsoft.com/frontpage
| | > > | -----
| | > > | | | > > | > Yep, that 10 percent penalty is a bummer.
| | > > | >
| | > > | > --
| | > > | > Steve Easton
| | > > | > MS MVP FrontPage
| | > > | > 95isalive
| | > > | > This site is best viewed..................
| | > > | > ..............................with a computer
| | > > | > | | > > | > > Nope - although I am a tad bit crabby right now. (Just did my
| | taxes
| | > and
| | > > | am
| | > > | > > getting hosed by the government for taking my own money back
out
| | of
| | > my
| | > > | > > 401K.)
| | > > | > >
| | > > | > > I'm a Golden Delicious or possibly a Fuji fan. Maiden name was
| | > Stayman.
| | > > | > >
| | > > | > > | | > > | > > > McIntosh??
| | > > | > > >
| | > > | > > > Then again Crab Apples are red when they're ripe.
| | > > | > > > Sorry JL, couldn't resist.
| | > > | > > >
| | > > | > > > --
| | > > | > > > Steve Easton
| | > > | > > > Microsoft MVP FrontPage
| | > > | > > > 95isalive
| | > > | > > > This site is best viewed............
| | > > | > > > .......................with a computer
| | > > | > > >
| | > > | > > > | | > > | > > > > Gotta have a soft, sweet, yellow apple here.
| | > > | > > > >
| | > > | > > > > Funny thing is my maiden name was a variety of apple - a
red
| | > one.
| | > > |

| | > > | > > > >
| | > > | > > > >
in
| | > message
| | > > | > > > > | | > > | > > > > > "Kathleen Anderson [MVP - FrontPage]"
| | > <[email protected]>
| | > > | > wrote
| | > > | > > in
| | > > | > > > > > message
| | > > | > > > > > > Jacks

| | > > | > > > > >
| | > > | > > > > > Which are usually Red Delicious, or McIntosh (although,
| I'll
| | > take
| | > > | a
| | > > | > > > > > Macintosh if someone can spare one.).
| | > > | > > > > >
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JL Amerson · Feb 26, 2004

I don't know about this - the IRS forms all say 59½

Tom Pepper Willett said:
Nope. 55. Just read it in the newspaper about 3 weeks ago. If you should
*terminate* employment for any reason and want to withdraw your funds, no
penalty.
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Stefan B Rusynko said:

Don't you mean after you turn 59-1/2 there is no penalty

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| Until you turn 55, and there is no penalty. ;-)
| --
| Tom Pepper Willett
| Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
| http://www.microsoft.com/office/frontpage/prodinfo/default.mspx
| http://msdn.microsoft.com/frontpage
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| | > Yep, that 10 percent penalty is a bummer.
| >
| > --
| > Steve Easton
| > MS MVP FrontPage
| > 95isalive
| > This site is best viewed..................
| > ..............................with a computer
| > | > > Nope - although I am a tad bit crabby right now. (Just did my

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taxes

and
| am
| > > getting hosed by the government for taking my own money back out

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of

my
| > > 401K.)
| > >
| > > I'm a Golden Delicious or possibly a Fuji fan. Maiden name was Stayman.
| > >
| > > | > > > McIntosh??
| > > >
| > > > Then again Crab Apples are red when they're ripe.
| > > > Sorry JL, couldn't resist.
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| > > > Steve Easton
| > > > Microsoft MVP FrontPage
| > > > 95isalive
| > > > This site is best viewed............
| > > > .......................with a computer
| > > >
| > > > | > > > > Gotta have a soft, sweet, yellow apple here.
| > > > >
| > > > > Funny thing is my maiden name was a variety of apple - a red one.
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| > > > > | > > > > > "Kathleen Anderson [MVP - FrontPage]"

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| > > > > > Which are usually Red Delicious, or McIntosh (although, I'll take
| a
| > > > > > Macintosh if someone can spare one.).
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