Shared Documenst Folder

[Dave B]

Having trashed my Shared Document folder(s?) somehow, I have to ask - is
there something unique about the original Shared Documents folders, or can I
just add a new folder, called it Shared Whatever, designate it as 'shared'
and have it behave as the original Shared Documents was intended to???

Thx all

Dave

 

[JW]

under \Documents and Settings\All Users
create a folder named
My Documents

when looking at other users' profiles,
the word "My" is always replaced with the name of the user account,
(e.g. "UserB Documents" when looking at UserB's profile), except when
looking at the All Users profile (which will make it appear to be
"Shared Documents").

i have never tried this, but there is no harm in trying it.
after you do it, log into a non-Admin account, and test it by copying a
file to Shared Documents.

 

[Ramesh, MS-MVP]

create a folder named My Documents

It's actually "Documents"
C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Documents

Create a Desktop.ini file in that folder, with the following contents:

[.ShellClassInfo]
[email protected],-21785

 

[JW]

thanks for jumping in Ramesh.
i was just taking a stab in the dark,
since nobody else had responded in 9 hours.

It's actually "Documents"
C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Documents

Create a Desktop.ini file in that folder, with the following contents:

[.ShellClassInfo]
[email protected],-21785

 

[Ramesh, MS-MVP]

No problem, JW. For some reason I marked this thread and missed it somehow.

--
Ramesh, Microsoft MVP
Windows XP Shell/User
http://windowsxp.mvps.org

thanks for jumping in Ramesh.
i was just taking a stab in the dark,
since nobody else had responded in 9 hours.

create a folder named My Documents

It's actually "Documents"
C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Documents

Create a Desktop.ini file in that folder, with the following contents:

[.ShellClassInfo]
[email protected],-21785

 

[Dave B]

Thanks everybody - but I'm still a little confused:

Turns out I already (still) have a C:\Documents and Settings\All
Users\Documents folder. When I click on it, I get a message "is not
accessible. Access is denied." Turns out I also have a C:\Documents and
Settings\David\My Documents folder, which is full of lots of folders (which
look correct.) [BTW, this comp only has 2 users - 'All Users' and
'David' ]

1) How then can I add a file?
2) I don't know how to create a desktop.ini file
3) Don't understand the reference to what should be in that file

Maybe most importantly, remember we are talking about a Shared Document
folder, not just a My Documents folder.

OK, so you can see what you're dealing with here.

Really appreciate the help

Dave

No problem, JW. For some reason I marked this thread and missed it
somehow.

--
Ramesh, Microsoft MVP
Windows XP Shell/User
http://windowsxp.mvps.org

thanks for jumping in Ramesh.
i was just taking a stab in the dark,
since nobody else had responded in 9 hours.

create a folder named My Documents


It's actually "Documents"
C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Documents

Create a Desktop.ini file in that folder, with the following contents:

[.ShellClassInfo]
[email protected],-21785

 

[Ramesh, MS-MVP]

Dave,

Have you verified the NTFS permissions for this folder?

C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Documents
(Shows in Explorer as "Shared documents")

Assign Full Control for the Administrators group.

--
Ramesh, Microsoft MVP
Windows XP Shell/User
http://windowsxp.mvps.org

Thanks everybody - but I'm still a little confused:

Turns out I already (still) have a C:\Documents and Settings\All
Users\Documents folder. When I click on it, I get a message "is not
accessible. Access is denied." Turns out I also have a C:\Documents and
Settings\David\My Documents folder, which is full of lots of folders
(which look correct.) [BTW, this comp only has 2 users - 'All Users' and
'David' ]

1) How then can I add a file?
2) I don't know how to create a desktop.ini file
3) Don't understand the reference to what should be in that file

Maybe most importantly, remember we are talking about a Shared Document
folder, not just a My Documents folder.

OK, so you can see what you're dealing with here.

Really appreciate the help

Dave

No problem, JW. For some reason I marked this thread and missed it
somehow.

--
Ramesh, Microsoft MVP
Windows XP Shell/User
http://windowsxp.mvps.org

thanks for jumping in Ramesh.
i was just taking a stab in the dark,
since nobody else had responded in 9 hours.


Ramesh, MS-MVP wrote:
create a folder named My Documents


It's actually "Documents"
C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Documents

Create a Desktop.ini file in that folder, with the following contents:

[.ShellClassInfo]
[email protected],-21785

 

[Dave B]

When I go to Properties in the C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Documents
folder, there is no Security tab. How do I get to Permissions? Just to be
sure, my C:\ is NTFS, although I have a second HD from a prior comp that is
FAT32. Haven't noticed any problems importing files, however.

Dave

Dave,

Have you verified the NTFS permissions for this folder?

C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Documents
(Shows in Explorer as "Shared documents")

Assign Full Control for the Administrators group.

--
Ramesh, Microsoft MVP
Windows XP Shell/User
http://windowsxp.mvps.org

Thanks everybody - but I'm still a little confused:

Turns out I already (still) have a C:\Documents and Settings\All
Users\Documents folder. When I click on it, I get a message "is not
accessible. Access is denied." Turns out I also have a C:\Documents
and Settings\David\My Documents folder, which is full of lots of folders
(which look correct.) [BTW, this comp only has 2 users - 'All Users'
and 'David' ]

1) How then can I add a file?
2) I don't know how to create a desktop.ini file
3) Don't understand the reference to what should be in that file

Maybe most importantly, remember we are talking about a Shared Document
folder, not just a My Documents folder.

OK, so you can see what you're dealing with here.

Really appreciate the help

Dave

No problem, JW. For some reason I marked this thread and missed it
somehow.

--
Ramesh, Microsoft MVP
Windows XP Shell/User
http://windowsxp.mvps.org


thanks for jumping in Ramesh.
i was just taking a stab in the dark,
since nobody else had responded in 9 hours.


Ramesh, MS-MVP wrote:
create a folder named My Documents


It's actually "Documents"
C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Documents

Create a Desktop.ini file in that folder, with the following contents:

[.ShellClassInfo]
[email protected],-21785

 

[Ramesh, MS-MVP]

If it's XP Pro, disable Simple File sharing (in Folder Options), to see the
Security tab. For XP Home, login as Administrator in Safe Mode to see the
Security tab. Then, take ownership of the folder.

How to take ownership of a file or folder in Windows XP?:
http://www.winxptutor.com/ownership.htm

Other optionis to use CACLS command-line to set Permissions while in normal
mode itself.

--
Ramesh, Microsoft MVP
Windows XP Shell/User
http://windowsxp.mvps.org

When I go to Properties in the C:\Documents and Settings\All
Users\Documents folder, there is no Security tab. How do I get to
Permissions? Just to be sure, my C:\ is NTFS, although I have a second HD
from a prior comp that is FAT32. Haven't noticed any problems importing
files, however.

Dave

Dave,

Have you verified the NTFS permissions for this folder?

C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Documents
(Shows in Explorer as "Shared documents")

Assign Full Control for the Administrators group.

--
Ramesh, Microsoft MVP
Windows XP Shell/User
http://windowsxp.mvps.org

Thanks everybody - but I'm still a little confused:

Turns out I already (still) have a C:\Documents and Settings\All
Users\Documents folder. When I click on it, I get a message "is not
accessible. Access is denied." Turns out I also have a C:\Documents
and Settings\David\My Documents folder, which is full of lots of folders
(which look correct.) [BTW, this comp only has 2 users - 'All Users'
and 'David' ]

1) How then can I add a file?
2) I don't know how to create a desktop.ini file
3) Don't understand the reference to what should be in that file

Maybe most importantly, remember we are talking about a Shared Document
folder, not just a My Documents folder.

OK, so you can see what you're dealing with here.

Really appreciate the help

Dave




No problem, JW. For some reason I marked this thread and missed it
somehow.

--
Ramesh, Microsoft MVP
Windows XP Shell/User
http://windowsxp.mvps.org


thanks for jumping in Ramesh.
i was just taking a stab in the dark,
since nobody else had responded in 9 hours.


Ramesh, MS-MVP wrote:
create a folder named My Documents


It's actually "Documents"
C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Documents

Create a Desktop.ini file in that folder, with the following
contents:

[.ShellClassInfo]
[email protected],-21785

 

[Dave B]

We're making progress - I think
Got the NTFS permissions OK (I think) -

Under My Computer, in addition to the drives (A,C,D, etc) I also have a
Documents folder and a David's folder. The latter echoes the Documents and
Settings (a complete waste in my view - thanks to Win XP) and the Documents
folder echoes the same folder in All Users (same waste comment)

Questions -
1) I would very much like to get this second Documents folder out of My
Computer. Any suggestions (cannot be deleted and I have been unable to
change its read-only attribute.)
2) I have simply typed in Shared Document folders in both All Users and
David. This was my original goal - but I don't think this is exactly what
they are supposed to be - but I don't know what else to do.

Would appreciate any suggestions.
And thanks again

Dave

If it's XP Pro, disable Simple File sharing (in Folder Options), to see
the Security tab. For XP Home, login as Administrator in Safe Mode to see
the Security tab. Then, take ownership of the folder.

How to take ownership of a file or folder in Windows XP?:
http://www.winxptutor.com/ownership.htm

Other optionis to use CACLS command-line to set Permissions while in
normal mode itself.

--
Ramesh, Microsoft MVP
Windows XP Shell/User
http://windowsxp.mvps.org

When I go to Properties in the C:\Documents and Settings\All
Users\Documents folder, there is no Security tab. How do I get to
Permissions? Just to be sure, my C:\ is NTFS, although I have a second
HD from a prior comp that is FAT32. Haven't noticed any problems
importing files, however.

Dave

Dave,

Have you verified the NTFS permissions for this folder?

C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Documents
(Shows in Explorer as "Shared documents")

Assign Full Control for the Administrators group.

--
Ramesh, Microsoft MVP
Windows XP Shell/User
http://windowsxp.mvps.org


Thanks everybody - but I'm still a little confused:

Turns out I already (still) have a C:\Documents and Settings\All
Users\Documents folder. When I click on it, I get a message "is not
accessible. Access is denied." Turns out I also have a C:\Documents
and Settings\David\My Documents folder, which is full of lots of
folders (which look correct.) [BTW, this comp only has 2 users - 'All
Users' and 'David' ]

1) How then can I add a file?
2) I don't know how to create a desktop.ini file
3) Don't understand the reference to what should be in that file

Maybe most importantly, remember we are talking about a Shared Document
folder, not just a My Documents folder.

OK, so you can see what you're dealing with here.

Really appreciate the help

Dave




No problem, JW. For some reason I marked this thread and missed it
somehow.

--
Ramesh, Microsoft MVP
Windows XP Shell/User
http://windowsxp.mvps.org


thanks for jumping in Ramesh.
i was just taking a stab in the dark,
since nobody else had responded in 9 hours.


Ramesh, MS-MVP wrote:
create a folder named My Documents


It's actually "Documents"
C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Documents

Create a Desktop.ini file in that folder, with the following
contents:

[.ShellClassInfo]
[email protected],-21785

 

[Ramesh, MS-MVP]

Dave,

If I understand correctly, you want to hide the "{username}'s documents"
link from My Computer, and retain the Shared Documents link. Regarding
question 2, more information needed.

--
Ramesh, Microsoft MVP
Windows XP Shell/User
http://windowsxp.mvps.org

We're making progress - I think
Got the NTFS permissions OK (I think) -

Under My Computer, in addition to the drives (A,C,D, etc) I also have a
Documents folder and a David's folder. The latter echoes the Documents
and Settings (a complete waste in my view - thanks to Win XP) and the
Documents folder echoes the same folder in All Users (same waste
comment)

Questions -
1) I would very much like to get this second Documents folder out of My
Computer. Any suggestions (cannot be deleted and I have been unable to
change its read-only attribute.)
2) I have simply typed in Shared Document folders in both All Users and
David. This was my original goal - but I don't think this is exactly what
they are supposed to be - but I don't know what else to do.

Would appreciate any suggestions.
And thanks again

Dave

If it's XP Pro, disable Simple File sharing (in Folder Options), to see
the Security tab. For XP Home, login as Administrator in Safe Mode to see
the Security tab. Then, take ownership of the folder.

How to take ownership of a file or folder in Windows XP?:
http://www.winxptutor.com/ownership.htm

Other optionis to use CACLS command-line to set Permissions while in
normal mode itself.

--
Ramesh, Microsoft MVP
Windows XP Shell/User
http://windowsxp.mvps.org

When I go to Properties in the C:\Documents and Settings\All
Users\Documents folder, there is no Security tab. How do I get to
Permissions? Just to be sure, my C:\ is NTFS, although I have a second
HD from a prior comp that is FAT32. Haven't noticed any problems
importing files, however.

Dave

Dave,

Have you verified the NTFS permissions for this folder?

C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Documents
(Shows in Explorer as "Shared documents")

Assign Full Control for the Administrators group.

--
Ramesh, Microsoft MVP
Windows XP Shell/User
http://windowsxp.mvps.org


Thanks everybody - but I'm still a little confused:

Turns out I already (still) have a C:\Documents and Settings\All
Users\Documents folder. When I click on it, I get a message "is not
accessible. Access is denied." Turns out I also have a C:\Documents
and Settings\David\My Documents folder, which is full of lots of
folders (which look correct.) [BTW, this comp only has 2 users -
'All Users' and 'David' ]

1) How then can I add a file?
2) I don't know how to create a desktop.ini file
3) Don't understand the reference to what should be in that file

Maybe most importantly, remember we are talking about a Shared
Document folder, not just a My Documents folder.

OK, so you can see what you're dealing with here.

Really appreciate the help

Dave




No problem, JW. For some reason I marked this thread and missed it
somehow.

--
Ramesh, Microsoft MVP
Windows XP Shell/User
http://windowsxp.mvps.org


thanks for jumping in Ramesh.
i was just taking a stab in the dark,
since nobody else had responded in 9 hours.


Ramesh, MS-MVP wrote:
create a folder named My Documents


It's actually "Documents"
C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Documents

Create a Desktop.ini file in that folder, with the following
contents:

[.ShellClassInfo]
[email protected],-21785

 

[Dave B]

Yes on your first sentence -
On the second, I still don't have any "official" Shared Documents folders,
so I just put some in myself..

I am beginning to wonder if I should just reinstall/repair WinXP. This is a
Dell, and I think I can do that (I'll double check) by just rebooting to
Ctrl/F11 without affecting any other files.

Thank you for hanging in with me.

Dave

Dave,

If I understand correctly, you want to hide the "{username}'s documents"
link from My Computer, and retain the Shared Documents link. Regarding
question 2, more information needed.

--
Ramesh, Microsoft MVP
Windows XP Shell/User
http://windowsxp.mvps.org

We're making progress - I think
Got the NTFS permissions OK (I think) -

Under My Computer, in addition to the drives (A,C,D, etc) I also have a
Documents folder and a David's folder. The latter echoes the Documents
and Settings (a complete waste in my view - thanks to Win XP) and the
Documents folder echoes the same folder in All Users (same waste
comment)

Questions -
1) I would very much like to get this second Documents folder out of My
Computer. Any suggestions (cannot be deleted and I have been unable to
change its read-only attribute.)
2) I have simply typed in Shared Document folders in both All Users and
David. This was my original goal - but I don't think this is exactly
what they are supposed to be - but I don't know what else to do.

Would appreciate any suggestions.
And thanks again

Dave

If it's XP Pro, disable Simple File sharing (in Folder Options), to see
the Security tab. For XP Home, login as Administrator in Safe Mode to
see the Security tab. Then, take ownership of the folder.

How to take ownership of a file or folder in Windows XP?:
http://www.winxptutor.com/ownership.htm

Other optionis to use CACLS command-line to set Permissions while in
normal mode itself.

--
Ramesh, Microsoft MVP
Windows XP Shell/User
http://windowsxp.mvps.org


When I go to Properties in the C:\Documents and Settings\All
Users\Documents folder, there is no Security tab. How do I get to
Permissions? Just to be sure, my C:\ is NTFS, although I have a second
HD from a prior comp that is FAT32. Haven't noticed any problems
importing files, however.

Dave

Dave,

Have you verified the NTFS permissions for this folder?

C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Documents
(Shows in Explorer as "Shared documents")

Assign Full Control for the Administrators group.

--
Ramesh, Microsoft MVP
Windows XP Shell/User
http://windowsxp.mvps.org


Thanks everybody - but I'm still a little confused:

Turns out I already (still) have a C:\Documents and Settings\All
Users\Documents folder. When I click on it, I get a message "is not
accessible. Access is denied." Turns out I also have a
C:\Documents and Settings\David\My Documents folder, which is full of
lots of folders (which look correct.) [BTW, this comp only has 2
users - 'All Users' and 'David' ]

1) How then can I add a file?
2) I don't know how to create a desktop.ini file
3) Don't understand the reference to what should be in that file

Maybe most importantly, remember we are talking about a Shared
Document folder, not just a My Documents folder.

OK, so you can see what you're dealing with here.

Really appreciate the help

Dave




No problem, JW. For some reason I marked this thread and missed it
somehow.

--
Ramesh, Microsoft MVP
Windows XP Shell/User
http://windowsxp.mvps.org


thanks for jumping in Ramesh.
i was just taking a stab in the dark,
since nobody else had responded in 9 hours.


Ramesh, MS-MVP wrote:
create a folder named My Documents


It's actually "Documents"
C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Documents

Create a Desktop.ini file in that folder, with the following
contents:

[.ShellClassInfo]
[email protected],-21785

 

[Ramesh, MS-MVP]

To hide the "{username}'s documents" in My Computer, open Regedit and
navigate to:

HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\DocFolderPaths

Backup the key. Delete your {username} value in the right-pane.

--
Ramesh, Microsoft MVP
Windows XP Shell/User
http://windowsxp.mvps.org

Yes on your first sentence -
On the second, I still don't have any "official" Shared Documents folders,
so I just put some in myself..

I am beginning to wonder if I should just reinstall/repair WinXP. This is
a Dell, and I think I can do that (I'll double check) by just rebooting to
Ctrl/F11 without affecting any other files.

Thank you for hanging in with me.

Dave

Dave,

If I understand correctly, you want to hide the "{username}'s documents"
link from My Computer, and retain the Shared Documents link. Regarding
question 2, more information needed.

--
Ramesh, Microsoft MVP
Windows XP Shell/User
http://windowsxp.mvps.org

We're making progress - I think
Got the NTFS permissions OK (I think) -

Under My Computer, in addition to the drives (A,C,D, etc) I also have a
Documents folder and a David's folder. The latter echoes the Documents
and Settings (a complete waste in my view - thanks to Win XP) and the
Documents folder echoes the same folder in All Users (same waste
comment)

Questions -
1) I would very much like to get this second Documents folder out of My
Computer. Any suggestions (cannot be deleted and I have been unable to
change its read-only attribute.)
2) I have simply typed in Shared Document folders in both All Users and
David. This was my original goal - but I don't think this is exactly
what they are supposed to be - but I don't know what else to do.

Would appreciate any suggestions.
And thanks again

Dave



If it's XP Pro, disable Simple File sharing (in Folder Options), to see
the Security tab. For XP Home, login as Administrator in Safe Mode to
see the Security tab. Then, take ownership of the folder.

How to take ownership of a file or folder in Windows XP?:
http://www.winxptutor.com/ownership.htm

Other optionis to use CACLS command-line to set Permissions while in
normal mode itself.

--
Ramesh, Microsoft MVP
Windows XP Shell/User
http://windowsxp.mvps.org


When I go to Properties in the C:\Documents and Settings\All
Users\Documents folder, there is no Security tab. How do I get to
Permissions? Just to be sure, my C:\ is NTFS, although I have a
second HD from a prior comp that is FAT32. Haven't noticed any
problems importing files, however.

Dave

Dave,

Have you verified the NTFS permissions for this folder?

C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Documents
(Shows in Explorer as "Shared documents")

Assign Full Control for the Administrators group.

--
Ramesh, Microsoft MVP
Windows XP Shell/User
http://windowsxp.mvps.org


Thanks everybody - but I'm still a little confused:

Turns out I already (still) have a C:\Documents and Settings\All
Users\Documents folder. When I click on it, I get a message "is not
accessible. Access is denied." Turns out I also have a
C:\Documents and Settings\David\My Documents folder, which is full
of lots of folders (which look correct.) [BTW, this comp only has 2
users - 'All Users' and 'David' ]

1) How then can I add a file?
2) I don't know how to create a desktop.ini file
3) Don't understand the reference to what should be in that file

Maybe most importantly, remember we are talking about a Shared
Document folder, not just a My Documents folder.

OK, so you can see what you're dealing with here.

Really appreciate the help

Dave




No problem, JW. For some reason I marked this thread and missed it
somehow.

--
Ramesh, Microsoft MVP
Windows XP Shell/User
http://windowsxp.mvps.org


thanks for jumping in Ramesh.
i was just taking a stab in the dark,
since nobody else had responded in 9 hours.


Ramesh, MS-MVP wrote:
create a folder named My Documents


It's actually "Documents"
C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Documents

Create a Desktop.ini file in that folder, with the following
contents:

[.ShellClassInfo]
[email protected],-21785

 

[Dave B]

Not exactly sure what you mean, however, I deleted the user name from the
right hand panel, but David's Documents are still appear in My Computer, and
so is Documents.
Apparently, the David's Documents is supposed to be there , is that
correct???

Also, I can't get permission to delete the Document folder for a very
interesting reason. When I go to Safe Mode to access the Security tab,
after I have made the appropriate changes, I don't have any way to close the
frame. It is so large in Safe Mode, the options at the bottom of the frame
are out of sight/reach, the only option I have to get out of it is the Close
feature, which obviously doesn't retain my changed attributes. Any thoughts
on that?
Thx again
Dave

To hide the "{username}'s documents" in My Computer, open Regedit and
navigate to:

HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\DocFolderPaths

Backup the key. Delete your {username} value in the right-pane.

--
Ramesh, Microsoft MVP
Windows XP Shell/User
http://windowsxp.mvps.org

Yes on your first sentence -
On the second, I still don't have any "official" Shared Documents
folders, so I just put some in myself..

I am beginning to wonder if I should just reinstall/repair WinXP. This
is a Dell, and I think I can do that (I'll double check) by just
rebooting to Ctrl/F11 without affecting any other files.

Thank you for hanging in with me.

Dave

Dave,

If I understand correctly, you want to hide the "{username}'s documents"
link from My Computer, and retain the Shared Documents link. Regarding
question 2, more information needed.

--
Ramesh, Microsoft MVP
Windows XP Shell/User
http://windowsxp.mvps.org


We're making progress - I think
Got the NTFS permissions OK (I think) -

Under My Computer, in addition to the drives (A,C,D, etc) I also have a
Documents folder and a David's folder. The latter echoes the Documents
and Settings (a complete waste in my view - thanks to Win XP) and the
Documents folder echoes the same folder in All Users (same waste
comment)

Questions -
1) I would very much like to get this second Documents folder out of My
Computer. Any suggestions (cannot be deleted and I have been unable to
change its read-only attribute.)
2) I have simply typed in Shared Document folders in both All Users and
David. This was my original goal - but I don't think this is exactly
what they are supposed to be - but I don't know what else to do.

Would appreciate any suggestions.
And thanks again

Dave



If it's XP Pro, disable Simple File sharing (in Folder Options), to
see the Security tab. For XP Home, login as Administrator in Safe Mode
to see the Security tab. Then, take ownership of the folder.

How to take ownership of a file or folder in Windows XP?:
http://www.winxptutor.com/ownership.htm

Other optionis to use CACLS command-line to set Permissions while in
normal mode itself.

--
Ramesh, Microsoft MVP
Windows XP Shell/User
http://windowsxp.mvps.org


When I go to Properties in the C:\Documents and Settings\All
Users\Documents folder, there is no Security tab. How do I get to
Permissions? Just to be sure, my C:\ is NTFS, although I have a
second HD from a prior comp that is FAT32. Haven't noticed any
problems importing files, however.

Dave

Dave,

Have you verified the NTFS permissions for this folder?

C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Documents
(Shows in Explorer as "Shared documents")

Assign Full Control for the Administrators group.

--
Ramesh, Microsoft MVP
Windows XP Shell/User
http://windowsxp.mvps.org


Thanks everybody - but I'm still a little confused:

Turns out I already (still) have a C:\Documents and Settings\All
Users\Documents folder. When I click on it, I get a message "is
not accessible. Access is denied." Turns out I also have a
C:\Documents and Settings\David\My Documents folder, which is full
of lots of folders (which look correct.) [BTW, this comp only has
2 users - 'All Users' and 'David' ]

1) How then can I add a file?
2) I don't know how to create a desktop.ini file
3) Don't understand the reference to what should be in that file

Maybe most importantly, remember we are talking about a Shared
Document folder, not just a My Documents folder.

OK, so you can see what you're dealing with here.

Really appreciate the help

Dave




No problem, JW. For some reason I marked this thread and missed it
somehow.

--
Ramesh, Microsoft MVP
Windows XP Shell/User
http://windowsxp.mvps.org


thanks for jumping in Ramesh.
i was just taking a stab in the dark,
since nobody else had responded in 9 hours.


Ramesh, MS-MVP wrote:
create a folder named My Documents


It's actually "Documents"
C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Documents

Create a Desktop.ini file in that folder, with the following
contents:

[.ShellClassInfo]
[email protected],-21785

 

[Ramesh, MS-MVP]

After deleting the username (David) value from DocFolderPaths, David's
documents is not supposed to display in My Computer's top section.

For 2nd part, you may use the CACLS command as a workaround:

Example:
cacls <folderpath> /t /e /g administrators:F

This provides Administrators Full Control for the <folder>

Type cacls /? in Command Prompt.

--
Ramesh, Microsoft MVP
Windows XP Shell/User
http://windowsxp.mvps.org

Not exactly sure what you mean, however, I deleted the user name from the
right hand panel, but David's Documents are still appear in My Computer,
and so is Documents.
Apparently, the David's Documents is supposed to be there , is that
correct???

Also, I can't get permission to delete the Document folder for a very
interesting reason. When I go to Safe Mode to access the Security tab,
after I have made the appropriate changes, I don't have any way to close
the frame. It is so large in Safe Mode, the options at the bottom of the
frame are out of sight/reach, the only option I have to get out of it is
the Close feature, which obviously doesn't retain my changed attributes.
Any thoughts on that?
Thx again
Dave

To hide the "{username}'s documents" in My Computer, open Regedit and
navigate to:

HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\DocFolderPaths

Backup the key. Delete your {username} value in the right-pane.

--
Ramesh, Microsoft MVP
Windows XP Shell/User
http://windowsxp.mvps.org

Yes on your first sentence -
On the second, I still don't have any "official" Shared Documents
folders, so I just put some in myself..

I am beginning to wonder if I should just reinstall/repair WinXP. This
is a Dell, and I think I can do that (I'll double check) by just
rebooting to Ctrl/F11 without affecting any other files.

Thank you for hanging in with me.

Dave



Dave,

If I understand correctly, you want to hide the "{username}'s
documents" link from My Computer, and retain the Shared Documents link.
Regarding question 2, more information needed.

--
Ramesh, Microsoft MVP
Windows XP Shell/User
http://windowsxp.mvps.org


We're making progress - I think
Got the NTFS permissions OK (I think) -

Under My Computer, in addition to the drives (A,C,D, etc) I also have
a Documents folder and a David's folder. The latter echoes the
Documents and Settings (a complete waste in my view - thanks to Win
XP) and the Documents folder echoes the same folder in All Users (same
waste comment)

Questions -
1) I would very much like to get this second Documents folder out of
My Computer. Any suggestions (cannot be deleted and I have been
unable to change its read-only attribute.)
2) I have simply typed in Shared Document folders in both All Users
and David. This was my original goal - but I don't think this is
exactly what they are supposed to be - but I don't know what else to
do.

Would appreciate any suggestions.
And thanks again

Dave



If it's XP Pro, disable Simple File sharing (in Folder Options), to
see the Security tab. For XP Home, login as Administrator in Safe
Mode to see the Security tab. Then, take ownership of the folder.

How to take ownership of a file or folder in Windows XP?:
http://www.winxptutor.com/ownership.htm

Other optionis to use CACLS command-line to set Permissions while in
normal mode itself.

--
Ramesh, Microsoft MVP
Windows XP Shell/User
http://windowsxp.mvps.org


When I go to Properties in the C:\Documents and Settings\All
Users\Documents folder, there is no Security tab. How do I get to
Permissions? Just to be sure, my C:\ is NTFS, although I have a
second HD from a prior comp that is FAT32. Haven't noticed any
problems importing files, however.

Dave

Dave,

Have you verified the NTFS permissions for this folder?

C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Documents
(Shows in Explorer as "Shared documents")

Assign Full Control for the Administrators group.

--
Ramesh, Microsoft MVP
Windows XP Shell/User
http://windowsxp.mvps.org


Thanks everybody - but I'm still a little confused:

Turns out I already (still) have a C:\Documents and Settings\All
Users\Documents folder. When I click on it, I get a message "is
not accessible. Access is denied." Turns out I also have a
C:\Documents and Settings\David\My Documents folder, which is full
of lots of folders (which look correct.) [BTW, this comp only has
2 users - 'All Users' and 'David' ]

1) How then can I add a file?
2) I don't know how to create a desktop.ini file
3) Don't understand the reference to what should be in that file

Maybe most importantly, remember we are talking about a Shared
Document folder, not just a My Documents folder.

OK, so you can see what you're dealing with here.

Really appreciate the help

Dave




No problem, JW. For some reason I marked this thread and missed
it somehow.

--
Ramesh, Microsoft MVP
Windows XP Shell/User
http://windowsxp.mvps.org


thanks for jumping in Ramesh.
i was just taking a stab in the dark,
since nobody else had responded in 9 hours.


Ramesh, MS-MVP wrote:
create a folder named My Documents


It's actually "Documents"
C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Documents

Create a Desktop.ini file in that folder, with the following
contents:

[.ShellClassInfo]
[email protected],-21785

 

[Dave B]

Let's review-

My DocFolderPaths contains three entries;
Default REG-SZ (value not set)
David REG-SZ C:\Documents and Settings\David\My Documents
Owner REG-SZ C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\My Documents

The Documents and David's Document folders I am trying to move/get rid of
are at the bottom of the Explorer tree, right above My Network Places and
Recycle Bin.

None of the changes to the DocFolderPaths has changed either folder. The
David's Documents contains a full echo of my files in C:\Documents and
Settings\David. I just don't want/need it there. If it has to be there,
let me know that.

The Documents folder does contain a desktop.ini file. I would very much
like not have it there simply because it is totally redundant, as is the
David's Documents folder.

I am obviously doing something wrong here. Sorry about all this, but I hope
this will give you a hint.

BTW, in command mode I can only get to the various root directories - I
don't see how to get directly to either of the two folders at the bottom of
the Explorer listing.

Thx again.
Dave

After deleting the username (David) value from DocFolderPaths, David's
documents is not supposed to display in My Computer's top section.

For 2nd part, you may use the CACLS command as a workaround:

Example:
cacls <folderpath> /t /e /g administrators:F

This provides Administrators Full Control for the <folder>

Type cacls /? in Command Prompt.

--
Ramesh, Microsoft MVP
Windows XP Shell/User
http://windowsxp.mvps.org

Not exactly sure what you mean, however, I deleted the user name from the
right hand panel, but David's Documents are still appear in My Computer,
and so is Documents.
Apparently, the David's Documents is supposed to be there , is that
correct???

Also, I can't get permission to delete the Document folder for a very
interesting reason. When I go to Safe Mode to access the Security tab,
after I have made the appropriate changes, I don't have any way to close
the frame. It is so large in Safe Mode, the options at the bottom of the
frame are out of sight/reach, the only option I have to get out of it is
the Close feature, which obviously doesn't retain my changed attributes.
Any thoughts on that?
Thx again
Dave

To hide the "{username}'s documents" in My Computer, open Regedit and
navigate to:

HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\DocFolderPaths

Backup the key. Delete your {username} value in the right-pane.

--
Ramesh, Microsoft MVP
Windows XP Shell/User
http://windowsxp.mvps.org


Yes on your first sentence -
On the second, I still don't have any "official" Shared Documents
folders, so I just put some in myself..

I am beginning to wonder if I should just reinstall/repair WinXP. This
is a Dell, and I think I can do that (I'll double check) by just
rebooting to Ctrl/F11 without affecting any other files.

Thank you for hanging in with me.

Dave



Dave,

If I understand correctly, you want to hide the "{username}'s
documents" link from My Computer, and retain the Shared Documents
link. Regarding question 2, more information needed.

--
Ramesh, Microsoft MVP
Windows XP Shell/User
http://windowsxp.mvps.org


We're making progress - I think
Got the NTFS permissions OK (I think) -

Under My Computer, in addition to the drives (A,C,D, etc) I also have
a Documents folder and a David's folder. The latter echoes the
Documents and Settings (a complete waste in my view - thanks to Win
XP) and the Documents folder echoes the same folder in All Users
(same waste comment)

Questions -
1) I would very much like to get this second Documents folder out of
My Computer. Any suggestions (cannot be deleted and I have been
unable to change its read-only attribute.)
2) I have simply typed in Shared Document folders in both All Users
and David. This was my original goal - but I don't think this is
exactly what they are supposed to be - but I don't know what else to
do.

Would appreciate any suggestions.
And thanks again

Dave



If it's XP Pro, disable Simple File sharing (in Folder Options), to
see the Security tab. For XP Home, login as Administrator in Safe
Mode to see the Security tab. Then, take ownership of the folder.

How to take ownership of a file or folder in Windows XP?:
http://www.winxptutor.com/ownership.htm

Other optionis to use CACLS command-line to set Permissions while in
normal mode itself.

--
Ramesh, Microsoft MVP
Windows XP Shell/User
http://windowsxp.mvps.org


When I go to Properties in the C:\Documents and Settings\All
Users\Documents folder, there is no Security tab. How do I get to
Permissions? Just to be sure, my C:\ is NTFS, although I have a
second HD from a prior comp that is FAT32. Haven't noticed any
problems importing files, however.

Dave

Dave,

Have you verified the NTFS permissions for this folder?

C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Documents
(Shows in Explorer as "Shared documents")

Assign Full Control for the Administrators group.

--
Ramesh, Microsoft MVP
Windows XP Shell/User
http://windowsxp.mvps.org


Thanks everybody - but I'm still a little confused:

Turns out I already (still) have a C:\Documents and Settings\All
Users\Documents folder. When I click on it, I get a message "is
not accessible. Access is denied." Turns out I also have a
C:\Documents and Settings\David\My Documents folder, which is
full of lots of folders (which look correct.) [BTW, this comp
only has 2 users - 'All Users' and 'David' ]

1) How then can I add a file?
2) I don't know how to create a desktop.ini file
3) Don't understand the reference to what should be in that file

Maybe most importantly, remember we are talking about a Shared
Document folder, not just a My Documents folder.

OK, so you can see what you're dealing with here.

Really appreciate the help

Dave




No problem, JW. For some reason I marked this thread and missed
it somehow.

--
Ramesh, Microsoft MVP
Windows XP Shell/User
http://windowsxp.mvps.org


thanks for jumping in Ramesh.
i was just taking a stab in the dark,
since nobody else had responded in 9 hours.


Ramesh, MS-MVP wrote:
create a folder named My Documents


It's actually "Documents"
C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Documents

Create a Desktop.ini file in that folder, with the following
contents:

[.ShellClassInfo]
[email protected],-21785

 

[Ramesh, MS-MVP]

Explorer tree

BTW, I was not talking about the folder pane in Explorer view. Altering the
DocFolderPaths just hides your username's documents link from "Files stored
on this computer" section in My Computer view (NOT Explorer view).

 

[Dave B]

OK, and thank you very much. I now have what I want - obviously couldn't
have done it with your very profound expertise. Don't know how you do it
but it is VERY much appreciated. Sorry it took so long - but like I said
before, you had to find out what you were working with!

Best regards - I'll probably be back for some more dumb questions - but
that's the fun of it all.

Best regards
Dave B
Wisconsin

 

[Ramesh, MS-MVP]

You're very welcome Dave

--
Ramesh, Microsoft MVP
Windows XP Shell/User
http://windowsxp.mvps.org

OK, and thank you very much. I now have what I want - obviously couldn't
have done it with your very profound expertise. Don't know how you do it
but it is VERY much appreciated. Sorry it took so long - but like I said
before, you had to find out what you were working with!

Best regards - I'll probably be back for some more dumb questions - but
that's the fun of it all.

Best regards
Dave B
Wisconsin

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