Security, always ask for permission want to turn off

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Guest

How do I turn off the User account control that causes my computer to keep
asking me if I executed the program and if I want to run it, even when the
programs were pre-loaded on my comp. It even does it when I try to open
McAfee Security Center, and it does it every time. This is really getiing
past the annoying point. I want to turn it off and I do not know how, it does
not give me an qption to do so that I see. I am not very computer savy, so
please any answers you may give need to be simply worded so I can preform the
required tasks without getting confused. Thanks for your help.
 
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Rock

lilmommaof3 said:
How do I turn off the User account control that causes my computer to keep
asking me if I executed the program and if I want to run it, even when the
programs were pre-loaded on my comp. It even does it when I try to open
McAfee Security Center, and it does it every time. This is really getiing
past the annoying point. I want to turn it off and I do not know how, it
does
not give me an qption to do so that I see. I am not very computer savy, so
please any answers you may give need to be simply worded so I can preform
the
required tasks without getting confused. Thanks for your help.

That you are not very computer savvy is an excellent reason _not_ to turn
off User Access Control. It alerts you when a program or process wants to
do something that requires admin rights, and it's asking you to grant
permission. If you turn it off, any piece of malware that get's on your
system can run in an admin context and cause major problems. Also turning
off UAC turns off protected mode for internet explorer, exposing you to that
avenue for malware infection. See these links for info on UAC.

http://www.jimmah.com/vista/security/uac.aspx

http://technet2.microsoft.com/Windo...8514-4c9e-ac08-4c21f5c6c2d91033.mspx?mfr=true

Personally I would get rid of McAfee products, (and not use a Norton product
in its place either). Vista has it's own firewall, and there are good
Anti-Virus programs available, some of which are free like AVG and Avast.
NOD32 is an excellent paid program.

Take a close look at the other programs that are asking for admin rights and
so invoking UAC. Most programs that are properly coded for Vista won't
need admin rights and so shouldn't be invoking UAC. Look for updates to
Vista compatible versions or replace them with something that is Vista
compatible.

All this being said if you want to turn it off go to start | run | msconfig.
On the Tools tab click on Disable UAC and OK out. Then reboot.
 
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Guest

Okay, but what if I only want to turn off the warning for repeat programs;
i.e. programs I've already given permission to run. The warnings amount to
a nag screen - most annoying.

I installed the 90-day evaluation copy of Norton Security, but am
considering uninstalling, since it is not the easiest interface. I've used
Zone Alarm Pro for years and would like to know whether it is compatible with
Vista. If I use System Configuration to disable Windows Firewall, will that
eliminate any compatibility problems?

J.
 
R

Rock

Judith_9 said:
Okay, but what if I only want to turn off the warning for repeat programs;
i.e. programs I've already given permission to run. The warnings amount
to
a nag screen - most annoying.

I installed the 90-day evaluation copy of Norton Security, but am
considering uninstalling, since it is not the easiest interface. I've
used
Zone Alarm Pro for years and would like to know whether it is compatible
with
Vista. If I use System Configuration to disable Windows Firewall, will
that
eliminate any compatibility problems?

No you cannot selectively turn off UAC for one program. Then all malware
would have to do is masquerade as that program and have admin level access.
Don't think of it as a nag screen, think of it as giving you control to know
when a program is doing something that requires admin level privileges.
From an admin account all you have to do is click the button to give
permission.

Once the system is set up, you will find the number of times UAC prompts
drops off. And as more programs are properly coded to work in Vista this
will decrease even more.

I don't think ZA is compatible yet with Vista. Check on their web site. If
a 3rd party firewall is used, then disable the OS firewall, it's best not to
have multiple firewalls running.

The firewall in Vista is much improved over XP. In it's default
configuration it monitors inbound connections but can be set up to monitor
outbound connections as well. I don't think I will be getting a 3rd party
firewall for Vista which I did use in XP (Kerio Personal Firewall, and
Comodo Personal Firewall).
 
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Guest

So you think that the Windows Vista Firewall is a good one?

How about Vista's AV capability?

The last thing I want is holes in my security through no fault of my own.

I'll probably continue to use the Norton at least until the trial period
expires. By then there should be more feed back on the effectiveness of
Vista firewall and antivirus.

J.
 
R

Rock

Judith_9 said:
So you think that the Windows Vista Firewall is a good one?

How about Vista's AV capability?

The last thing I want is holes in my security through no fault of my own.

I'll probably continue to use the Norton at least until the trial period
expires. By then there should be more feed back on the effectiveness of
Vista firewall and antivirus.

Yes I think the Vista firewall is fine. Unless some info comes out in the
future to suggest otherwise I have no intention of getting a 3rd party
firewall. In XP, however, I would not be without one. I am also behind a
NAT router with SPI. Home routers with NAT are relatively inexpensive, in
the $50-$60 range.

There is no AV in Vista. It does come with Defender which is for non viral
malware. Additionally I installed several other anti-malware apps that were
also useful in XP: Ad aware SE Personal, Spybot S&D, and Spyware Blaster.

In my first reply I mentioned that there are good Vista compatible AV
programs available. Avast and AVG offer free versions ( I use Avast), and
NOD32 is an excellent paid product. Avast has worked well enough for me
that I can't see springing for the cost of NOD32 but were I so inclined
that's the paid AV product I would choose.
 
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Captain Kayos

Vista firewall is only marginally better than the old XP version, in that it can block incomming & outgoing apps. It does not however, spoof (make your PC invisible) your ports on the web. For this you need Nortons or Zone Alarm, etc. I'm still waiting for a Vista compatible version of Zone Alarm!

EggHeadCafe.com - .NET Developer Portal of Choice
http://www.eggheadcafe.com
 
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Rock

Vista firewall is only marginally better than the old XP version, in that
it can block incomming & outgoing apps. It does not however, spoof (make
your PC invisible) your ports on the web. For this you need Nortons or
Zone Alarm, etc. I'm still waiting for a Vista compatible version of Zone
Alarm!


You're posting to an old thread, you changed the subject, and you didn't
quote any of the message to which you reply. Besides I disagree with your
statement that the Vista firewall is "only marginally better than the old XP
version." No need for a 3rd party firewall.

Why does it seem that no one who posts from Egghead Cafe knows how to post
properly?
 
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Nobody777

Forgive me if I missed something... You're commenting on someone not being
very computer savvy and yet, concerning Windows Vista, you instructed him to
do the following:

"All this being said if you want to turn it off go to start | run | msconfig.
On the Tools tab click on Disable UAC and OK out. Then reboot."

Perhaps I am not as savvy either... Please explain where "run" is on the
Vista menu? ;)

What I presume you have done is changed your Vista start menu to look like
the Classic XP start menu... in which case you do then have a RUN command.
However, by default, this is not an option.

To change your menu you need to right click the Windows "start" button and
then choose Properties. Then click the tab that says "Start Menu" and change
it to "Classic Start Menu". Then you will see the "run" option. After that
the other instructions will make more sense...

Hope that helps.

Peace,
Dave
 
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Younis

its there, when you click start there is "start search", type run.

so simple not that tricky!!
 
Y

Younis

otherwise it is also very easy to just type msconfig in start search than
you dont have to run any thing from there. and if you want to find run it is
in sart | All Programs | Accessories | Run so thats not that complicated,
brother!
 
S

Sami Laiho

Why don't you just press Windows+R ;)

Sami

Younis said:
otherwise it is also very easy to just type msconfig in start search than
you dont have to run any thing from there. and if you want to find run it
is in sart | All Programs | Accessories | Run so thats not that
complicated, brother!
 

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