restoration!?

[Efirmitiv]

Hi! I'm using Brian Kato's programme called "restoration" version 2.5.14 for
recovering files etc. This programme also has a function for wiping past
deleted files so i use it very often becuse of content's sensitivity of this
files.

What does this wiping programmes really do to my OS(xp) system and to
hardware ? This last time i heard sounds from my harddrive so i worried.

Does its use reflects on hardware? Meaning, do i have to limit its use !?

Thanks.
Marko
p.s. i have read about how this kinda programmes works, but don't have the
firm picture about it, i suppose by replacing files with files or similar!?
p.p.s. do you suggest any other, maybe in some sense different or better
programme, although i find this quite right, but want to be sure...
He-the author himself says "When you use the restoration function, I don't
think you will encounter any damage due to bugs, since the function doesn't
write anything to physical sectors.
However, the complete deletion function replaces physical sectors.
Therefore, I confirmed that it worked without any problems by testing many
times.
As there is a rare possibility of damage or loss, please run the function at
your own risk." Thats from his own webpage, i suppose i would need to be
more carefull with this programme due to my hardrive sensitivity!??

 

[Shenan Stanley]

Hi! I'm using Brian Kato's programme called "restoration" version
2.5.14 for recovering files etc. This programme also has a function
for wiping past deleted files so i use it very often becuse of
content's sensitivity of this files.

What does this wiping programmes really do to my OS(xp) system and
to hardware ? This last time i heard sounds from my harddrive so i
worried.
Does its use reflects on hardware? Meaning, do i have to limit its
use !?
Thanks.
Marko
p.s. i have read about how this kinda programmes works, but don't
have the firm picture about it, i suppose by replacing files with
files or similar!? p.p.s. do you suggest any other, maybe in some
sense different or better programme, although i find this quite
right, but want to be sure... He-the author himself says "When you use the
restoration function,
I don't think you will encounter any damage due to bugs, since the
function doesn't write anything to physical sectors.
However, the complete deletion function replaces physical sectors.
Therefore, I confirmed that it worked without any problems by
testing many times.
As there is a rare possibility of damage or loss, please run the
function at your own risk." Thats from his own webpage, i suppose i
would need to be more carefull with this programme due to my
hardrive sensitivity!??

It won't hurt your hard drive anymore than writing anything else to it.

It essentially takes the space formerly occupied by said file(s) you tell it
to 'securely wipe) and it writes 0's over the area - thereby 'covering the
tracks' so to speak. It probably does this several times.

Think of it like you are taking a stroll down the beach, your footprints are
the files... If you walk bacwards and 'change' the footprints you've made
(scrape, scratch, brush, make random designs, etc) - perhaps do several
different things to them as you make them - you have done 'essentially' the
same thing the secure wipe feature of whatever you use is likely doing.

 

[Efirmitiv]

Thanks Shenan for good explanation!

Do you or anybody knows for some free professional programme with which i
could esentially restore such wiped or erased files which were previously
deleted. I suppose this works on a puzzle principle ?

Thanks.
MArko

 

[Patrick Keenan]

Thanks Shenan for good explanation!

Do you or anybody knows for some free professional programme

That's actually a bit of an oxymoron. Professionals don't really work for
free, though many are underpaid...

with which i could esentially restore such wiped or erased files which
were previously deleted. I suppose this works on a puzzle principle ?

If the files were wiped, the wiping program wouldn't be of any value at all
if it were remotely easy to recover the files. Files that have been simply
deleted can sometimes be recovered, *if* there hasn't been too much drive
activity. But often, there is significant loss.

Until you physically shatter the drive platters and lose the pieces over a
wide area, it's going to be possible to recover data, in whole or in part.

The real question is how much you want to spend to do that. And that
probably is affected by how secret your files are, and what you're actually
up to.

As the author says, test. But keep in mind that there are always people
who know more than you, and are probably already ahead of you.

Googling "data recovery software" will get you lots of references.

HTH
-pk

Thanks.
MArko

 

[Ken Blake, MVP]

Hi! I'm using Brian Kato's programme called "restoration" version 2.5.14 for
recovering files etc. This programme also has a function for wiping past
deleted files so i use it very often becuse of content's sensitivity of this
files.

What does this wiping programmes really do to my OS(xp) system and to
hardware ? This last time i heard sounds from my harddrive so i worried.

Does its use reflects on hardware? Meaning, do i have to limit its use !?

Thanks.
Marko
p.s. i have read about how this kinda programmes works, but don't have the
firm picture about it, i suppose by replacing files with files or similar!?
p.p.s. do you suggest any other, maybe in some sense different or better
programme, although i find this quite right, but want to be sure...

Here's my standard post on undeleting, which should have the
information you are looking for:

"Deleting" a file doesn't actually delete it; it just marks the space
as available to be used. There are third-party programs that can
sometimes recover deleted files. The problem is that the space used by
the file is likely to become overwritten very quickly, and this makes
the file unrecoverable.

So your chances of successfully recovering this file are decent if you
try recovering it immediately after deleting it, and rapidly go
downhill from there. If you've been using the computer since then (for
example to write this question and read this answer), your chances are
probably very poor by now.

But if the file is important enough, it's worth a try anyway. Stop
using the computer in question immediately, if you haven't done so
already. Download an undelete program (here's one:
http://www3.telus.net/mikebike/RESTORATION.html but there are several
others to choose from; do a Google search) on a friend's computer and
bring it to yours on a floppy to try.

If this fails, your only other recourse is to take the drive to a
professional file recovery company. This kind of service is very
expensive and may or may not work in your case.

He-the author himself says "When you use the restoration function, I don't
think you will encounter any damage due to bugs, since the function doesn't
write anything to physical sectors.
However, the complete deletion function replaces physical sectors.
Therefore, I confirmed that it worked without any problems by testing many
times.
As there is a rare possibility of damage or loss, please run the function at
your own risk." Thats from his own webpage, i suppose i would need to be
more carefull with this programme due to my hardrive sensitivity!??

The risk is probably very small, and it's just the author trying to
protect himself from any possibility of lawsuits if something should
ever go wrong.

By the way, it's important to realize that such "complete deletion"
functions greatly reduce the likelihood of anyone's ever being able to
read the deleted files, but they never reduce the possibility to zero.
Professional file recovery companies, as mentioned above, can
sometimes recover data even after the use of such programs. It's for
that reason, when it comes to really sensitive data, that the US
Government does not rely on such programs, but instead physically
destroys the drive in a furnace.

 

[Efirmitiv]

That's actually a bit of an oxymoron. Professionals don't really work for
free, though many are underpaid...


If the files were wiped, the wiping program wouldn't be of any value at
all if it were remotely easy to recover the files. Files that have been
simply deleted can sometimes be recovered, *if* there hasn't been too much
drive activity. But often, there is significant loss.

Until you physically shatter the drive platters and lose the pieces over a
wide area, it's going to be possible to recover data, in whole or in part.

The real question is how much you want to spend to do that. And that
probably is affected by how secret your files are, and what you're
actually up to.

As the author says, test. But keep in mind that there are always people
who know more than you, and are probably already ahead of you.

Googling "data recovery software" will get you lots of references.

HTH
-pk

Thanks for answer! I have found a site about recovery-reviews with tons of
free programmes, hope finding something there, although in both yours and
the second answer, You are writing about proffesional companis which do
recovery data jobs, so, i'm assured the best is to let proffs to do their
job, but suppose this services are much expensive, maybe too much. I see
this free programmes as a solution, will see what they have to say...

Thanks again!
Marko

Thanks.
MArko

 

[Efirmitiv]

Here's my standard post on undeleting, which should have the
information you are looking for:

"Deleting" a file doesn't actually delete it; it just marks the space
as available to be used. There are third-party programs that can
sometimes recover deleted files. The problem is that the space used by
the file is likely to become overwritten very quickly, and this makes
the file unrecoverable.

So your chances of successfully recovering this file are decent if you
try recovering it immediately after deleting it, and rapidly go
downhill from there. If you've been using the computer since then (for
example to write this question and read this answer), your chances are
probably very poor by now.

But if the file is important enough, it's worth a try anyway. Stop
using the computer in question immediately, if you haven't done so
already. Download an undelete program (here's one:
http://www3.telus.net/mikebike/RESTORATION.html but there are several
others to choose from; do a Google search) on a friend's computer and
bring it to yours on a floppy to try.

If this fails, your only other recourse is to take the drive to a
professional file recovery company. This kind of service is very
expensive and may or may not work in your case.






The risk is probably very small, and it's just the author trying to
protect himself from any possibility of lawsuits if something should
ever go wrong.

By the way, it's important to realize that such "complete deletion"
functions greatly reduce the likelihood of anyone's ever being able to
read the deleted files, but they never reduce the possibility to zero.
Professional file recovery companies, as mentioned above, can
sometimes recover data even after the use of such programs. It's for
that reason, when it comes to really sensitive data, that the US
Government does not rely on such programs, but instead physically
destroys the drive in a furnace.

Thanks. Yeah, this possibility not deleting files to zero, exactly are the
issue, i find this strange and bizarre, it don't have any strings with the
common logics, the logically solution would be erasing and wiping the
sectors to zero-which was their start position...
Hoping to find decent solution on recovery-reviews. ... thanks !