Replacement for X-Setup?

J

John Corliss

Now that versions of X-Setup 7.0 or higher will be shareware, does
anybody have a recommendation for a replacement for this program? Of
course, the older versions are still freeware and you can still
download ver. 6.3 from them directly, but one must anticipate the
future. Here are some tweaking programs that might serve as alternatives:

Fresh UI:

http://www.freshdevices.com/

Tweakall:

http://www.codeforge.co.uk/tweakall.html

MS Tweakui:

(go to Microsoft and look for the version applicable to your OS
version.)

Anybody have one to add?
 
M

Moparx

John said:
Now that versions of X-Setup 7.0 or higher will be shareware, does
anybody have a recommendation for a replacement for this program? Of
course, the older versions are still freeware and you can still
download ver. 6.3 from them directly, but one must anticipate the
future. Here are some tweaking programs that might serve as
alternatives:

it is still quite free for home use.

x-setup pro's eula states:
"The software is "freeware" for: Home users (using the computers for
personal hobby or recreational use); Government controlled education
institutions; Non-profit organizations; charity organizations; Public
libraries. The term "freeware" means, you are allowed to use the
software at no cost. It is not necessary to purchase a license for it.

If your environment does not fit in the noted environments, you are
considered as a commercial institution and the software is licensed to
you as "shareware". The term "shareware" means, you can test the
software for up to 30 days. After those 30 days you either have to
purchase a license for it or stop using the software and remove it from
your storage device(s) immediately. Unregistered use of X-Setup Pro
after the 30-day evaluation period is in violation of international
copyright laws."

no need to jump ship ;)
 
B

Bjorn Simonsen

John Corliss wrote in said:
Anybody have one to add?

Just came across

"TWEAK - The Windows Environment and Application Konfigurator"

In addition to all the compacted system config info and tips you
from the pages at <http://thegoldenear.org/tweak/>, you aslo get
TWEAK. (I could to get to the homepage right now, but could the other
day).

TWEAK is not a program a such, but a very nice batch interface worth a
study in it self. As the site explains TWEAK was mainly designed with
Win2k in mind, but should for the most part work with XP I think:

From the homepage: "TWEAK works with Windows 2000 and XP. However its
Windows configuration section was initially written for Windows 2000
(with Internet Explorer 5/5.5) and doesn't yet implement its full
potential with Windows XP (such as reverting the user interface
completely back to Windows Classic)."

(looked up hompage in Google's cache since I could not get to it right
now).

All the best,
Bjorn Simonsen
 
B

Bjorn Simonsen

John Corliss wrote in
Now that versions of X-Setup 7.0 or higher will be shareware, does
anybody have a recommendation for a replacement for this program? Of
course, the older versions are still freeware and you can still
download ver. 6.3 from them directly, but one must anticipate the
future.

FWIW I noticed that, as you say, all versions up to 7.0 will be free,
Also noticed they have a 6.5 beta out now, and more "pre-releases" to
follow it seems. Just worth mentioning for anyone who wants to grab a
copy before 7.0 arrives.

Copied text from: <http://www.x-setup.net/xset2xsp.asp?lang=EN>
<quote>
However, it is important to know that only Version 7.0 of X-Setup
Pro and up will cost money, all pre-7.0 release (6.5, 6.6, 6.7
etc.) will remain in the current freeware for home-users schema
</quote>

All the best,
Bjorn Simonsen
 
J

John Corliss

Moparx said:
it is still quite free for home use.

x-setup pro's eula states:
"The software is "freeware" for: Home users (using the computers for
personal hobby or recreational use); Government controlled education
institutions; Non-profit organizations; charity organizations; Public
libraries. The term "freeware" means, you are allowed to use the
software at no cost. It is not necessary to purchase a license for it.

If your environment does not fit in the noted environments, you are
considered as a commercial institution and the software is licensed to
you as "shareware". The term "shareware" means, you can test the
software for up to 30 days. After those 30 days you either have to
purchase a license for it or stop using the software and remove it from
your storage device(s) immediately. Unregistered use of X-Setup Pro
after the 30-day evaluation period is in violation of international
copyright laws."

no need to jump ship ;)

Moparx,
You might want to read this page:

http://www.x-setup.net/xset2xsp.asp?lang=EN

That's why I said:

"Now that versions of X-Setup 7.0 or higher will be shareware..."

and:

"...the older versions are still freeware and you can still download
ver. 6.3 from them directly, but one must anticipate the future."

Besides, I've noticed in the past that each tweaking program seems to
have some tweak that the others don't, so I suppose it's still a good
idea to get a list of them for perusal.
 
J

John Corliss

Bob said:
Well, nothing is close to X-Setup. Only one I can add is
Tweak FX

http://smilianov.dir.bg/

No install, unzip and go. However, the first run allows optional
registration of OCX files in case they're not already on your system.

Bob,
That one looks okay, only:
______________________
Platform: Win32 (Microsoft ® Windows ® 32 bit)
Operating System: 2000, XP, 2003
______________________

which leaves out a lot of users. Still, those with those versions of
Windows may find the program of interest.
 
J

John Corliss

Bjorn said:
Just came across

"TWEAK - The Windows Environment and Application Konfigurator"

In addition to all the compacted system config info and tips you
from the pages at <http://thegoldenear.org/tweak/>, you aslo get
TWEAK. (I could to get to the homepage right now, but could the other
day).

TWEAK is not a program a such, but a very nice batch interface worth a
study in it self. As the site explains TWEAK was mainly designed with
Win2k in mind, but should for the most part work with XP I think:

From the homepage: "TWEAK works with Windows 2000 and XP. However its
Windows configuration section was initially written for Windows 2000
(with Internet Explorer 5/5.5) and doesn't yet implement its full
potential with Windows XP (such as reverting the user interface
completely back to Windows Classic)."

(looked up hompage in Google's cache since I could not get to it right
now).

All the best,
Bjorn Simonsen

Bjorn,
Thanks for replying. The link for the program is here:

https://sourceforge.net/projects/tweak/

Note the following:
___________________________
* Development Status: 4 - Beta
* Environment: Console (Text Based), Win32 (MS Windows)
* Intended Audience: System Administrators
* License: GNU General Public License (GPL)
* Natural Language: English
* Operating System: Windows NT/2000
* Topic: Installation/Setup, Systems Administration
___________________________

This program leaves out those using W9X, but NT/2000 users might want
to look at it.
 
G

George Smilianov

Hi, everybody

I am the author of Tweak FX,
I want to ask you what do you think about the program?
Tell me about bugs, features and whatever you want.

Thanx.
George Smilianov
http://smilianov.dir.bg

PS: Latest version of Tweak FX is 4.22, CODENAME: Palladium [05.02.04]
 
M

Moparx

John said:
Moparx,
You might want to read this page:

http://www.x-setup.net/xset2xsp.asp?lang=EN

That's why I said:

"Now that versions of X-Setup 7.0 or higher will be shareware..."

and:

"...the older versions are still freeware and you can still download
ver. 6.3 from them directly, but one must anticipate the future."

Besides, I've noticed in the past that each tweaking program seems to
have some tweak that the others don't, so I suppose it's still a good
idea to get a list of them for perusal.


well that sucks.
id pay for future versions provided it was fairly cheap (under $20) and
had many more useful features that the old one would not have.

that is of course unless something even better comes around to replace
it for free ;)
 
B

Bjorn Simonsen

George Smilianov wrote in
I am the author of Tweak FX,
I want to ask you what do you think about the program?

Haven't tried to apply any of the tweaks yet, as I already have most
of those I want already implemented. Have just installed it to have a
look. Got the sfx archive version from your site
<http://smilianov.dir.bg/>. So all I can say for now is - it looks
nice, with a clean and intuitively easy to use interface.

Btw, on <http://smilianov.dir.bg/tweakfx_plugins_list.html>, are
all the plugins listed on that page part of the default install?

Only thing I missed when downloading it was perhaps a little bit
more info on the website. I noticed the two links there, to
<http://www.majorgeeks.com/download.php?det=3673> and
<http://www.softpedia.com/public/cat/12/5/12-5-31.shtml>, but
not a whole lot of info on either of those pages.

Maybe you could put a html copy of the <tweakfx_docs.pdf> content
there, or if not offer the pdf as separate download so people can
read about your program before download/installing?

Anyway, thanks for making it freeware!

All the best,
Bjorn Simonsen
 
B

Bjorn Simonsen

John Corliss wrote in said:

Version 0.8.35-1 released 4th February 2004
(previous was 0.8.35) according to
the homepage at <http://thegoldenear.org/tweak/> (worked now).
D/L from:
Note the following:
* Development Status: 4 - Beta

A note abut that, from the homepage:

Homepage <http://thegoldenear.org/tweak/> says about beta status:
<quote>
"This program is still in development. It comes with absolutely
no warranty. Yet it has proved itself in a couple of production
environments that we support. No errors have been found in its
Windows system configuration settings since version
0.4.something."
* Environment: Console (Text Based), Win32 (MS Windows)

* Intended Audience: System Administrators
* License: GNU General Public License (GPL)
* Natural Language: English
* Operating System: Windows NT/2000

And XP, according to homepage (or see quote in my previous message
about this one)
* Topic: Installation/Setup, Systems Administration

I have not tried it yet (as said) but reading about it I notice
it offers to do many of the things I want to have done when
making a fresh Windows install. Say like change the locations for some
of the default folders like Program Files and so on. Since this is a
CLI/batch menu driven app, no problem - no install, just unzip
and run. Could turn out to be a time saver this one, at least for me
(that is, if it implements the tweaks flawlessly :). Will try it next
time I perform a fresh Win2k install (soon).

All the best
Bjorn Simonsen
 
R

Rhexis

well that sucks.
id pay for future versions provided it was fairly cheap (under $20) and
had many more useful features that the old one would not have.

The site says that they'll "charge an individual user 8 USD / 7 EURO for
one copy of X-Setup Pro 7.0 or higher version".
 
J

John

John Corliss said:
Now that versions of X-Setup 7.0 or higher will be shareware, does
anybody have a recommendation for a replacement for this program? Of
course, the older versions are still freeware and you can still
download ver. 6.3 from them directly, but one must anticipate the
future. Here are some tweaking programs that might serve as alternatives:

Fresh UI:

http://www.freshdevices.com/

Tweakall:

http://www.codeforge.co.uk/tweakall.html

MS Tweakui:

(go to Microsoft and look for the version applicable to your OS
version.)

Anybody have one to add?


XenTweak
http://www.x9000.net/
Want to tune and tweak your computer with settings that are normally
hidden deep inside your registry ? Instead of wading through settings
XenTweak can install all in one settings - saving a lot of time.
XenTweak differs from other tweak programs because it tweaks the most
common and tested settings. It also tweaks some settings never before
seen in other tweak programs. XenTweak is only about 200k in size and
it will increase your systems efficiency and performance.

====================================

PowerPro
http://www.windowspowerpro.com/
Windows PowerPro lets you take control of how you use Windows
95/98/NT/2000/XP. Run commands and configure your system any way you
want.

================================

Faber Toys
http://www.faberbox.com/fabertoys.asp?action=features
PC running Windows '95, '98, ME, NT 4, 2000, XP (no Win 3.1)
Faber Toys is a system utility, mainly developed for power users who
want to know what's going on in their Personal Computer. It may also
be used by programmers as a tool for tracking their applications.

The goal is to create an application running on most PC configurations
(see system requirements), that use an FPL (Fast Property Load)
technology to speed up the recovery of information on slow computers.
 
J

John Corliss

Moparx said:
well that sucks.
id pay for future versions provided it was fairly cheap (under $20) and
had many more useful features that the old one would not have.
that is of course unless something even better comes around to replace
it for free ;)

That's why I started this thread. 80)>
 
J

John Corliss

George said:
Hi, everybody
I am the author of Tweak FX,
I want to ask you what do you think about the program?
Tell me about bugs, features and whatever you want.
PS: Latest version of Tweak FX is 4.22, CODENAME: Palladium [05.02.04]

George,
Your website says:

"Operating System: 2000, XP, 2003"

I presume this means that the program doesn't work in W9x and ME, so I
can't evaluate it. Also, if it requires the M$.NET Framework, I'll not
be able to try your program because I'll never install that module on
my system.
 
J

John Corliss

John said:
XenTweak
http://www.x9000.net/
Want to tune and tweak your computer with settings that are normally
hidden deep inside your registry ? Instead of wading through settings
XenTweak can install all in one settings - saving a lot of time.
XenTweak differs from other tweak programs because it tweaks the most
common and tested settings. It also tweaks some settings never before
seen in other tweak programs. XenTweak is only about 200k in size and
it will increase your systems efficiency and performance.

Love the graphic on that page. Kinda startling. I've downloaded it and
will check it out.
====================================

PowerPro
http://www.windowspowerpro.com/
Windows PowerPro lets you take control of how you use Windows
95/98/NT/2000/XP. Run commands and configure your system any way you
want.

I think this is more of a UI replacement than a tweaker. But I don't
know cause I've never used it. PowerPro has always made me nervous so
I've never installed it.
================================

Faber Toys
http://www.faberbox.com/fabertoys.asp?action=features
PC running Windows '95, '98, ME, NT 4, 2000, XP (no Win 3.1)
Faber Toys is a system utility, mainly developed for power users who
want to know what's going on in their Personal Computer. It may also
be used by programmers as a tool for tracking their applications.

The goal is to create an application running on most PC configurations
(see system requirements), that use an FPL (Fast Property Load)
technology to speed up the recovery of information on slow computers.

Although there are some tweaks within the program, I think this is
mostly a system info tool along the lines of Sysinternals' "Process
Explorer":

http://www.sysinternals.com/ntw2k/freeware/procexp.shtml

Thanks for your input.
 
C

Charles D. Bohne

Also, if it requires the M$.NET Framework, I'll not
be able to try your program because I'll never install that module on
my system.

I second that :)) !!!
N.B.: I updated to X-Setup 6.5 and it's still freeware (for privat use).
C.
 
R

Richard Steven Hack

I think this is more of a UI replacement than a tweaker. But I don't
know cause I've never used it. PowerPro has always made me nervous so
I've never installed it.

I've used it forever. Yes, it's primarily a program
launcher/wallpaper changer/fifty million other things. Not really a
tweaker. Very hard to configure but it's powerful. I've never gotten
around to doing much more with it than creating popup menus for some
of my more commonly used programs.
 
B

Bob Adkins

XenTweak
http://www.x9000.net/
Want to tune and tweak your computer with settings that are normally
hidden deep inside your registry ? Instead of wading through settings
XenTweak can install all in one settings - saving a lot of time.
XenTweak differs from other tweak programs because it tweaks the most
common and tested settings. It also tweaks some settings never before
seen in other tweak programs. XenTweak is only about 200k in size and
it will increase your systems efficiency and performance.

Twilight zone. Throwback. Time warp.

Exactly my style. :)


Bob
 

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