Removing Windows Vista

[Guest]

I just bought a new computer that has Windows Vista Home Premium
pre-installed on it...I hate this new Vista and want to know if I can delete
it and install Xp on my computer. Is this possible??? If it is, how would I
go about doing it?

 

[Lang Murphy]

What exactly do you "hate" about Vista? Getting it on a new PC, I can only
assume you either have legacy software or hardware that doesn't work with
it.

Lang

 

[Chad Harris]

I think if you gave it a chance, and used Help and Support and this group to
get help, you'd like it some more, but all you have to do to format it is to
take an XP CD and it will format it in setup, and like Vista it's a bootable
CD (the only exception being the volume license Vista upgrade DVD (from
Darrell Gorter [MSFT]/

The big question is do you have an XP CD? The reason I ask is because MSFT
has been shafting their customers for years by forcing the OEM named
partners (all 300 of 'em not to send an OS CD in XP or an OS DVD in Vista).
Dell has told MSFT to stuff it in Vista and says they are shipping a Vista
DVD.

It's no accident that OEM pre-installed sales is up 20% and Retail Sales has
been down 20% last two reporting quarters for MSFT according to their
financials.

Here are screen shots for installing XP when there is an existing OS on the
drive: I used screenshots from XP Home, because you didn't say which XP you
have. But it's the same.

http://www.windowsxphome.windowsreinstall.com/sp2installxpcdoldhdd/index.htm

Good luck,

CH

 

[Dustin Harper]

Sure, stick in your XP CD and boot to it. When it asks, delete the
partition, recreate it and format it. Then finish the XP install and it's
all good.

 

[BSchnur]

Sure, stick in your XP CD and boot to it. When it asks, delete the

partition, recreate it and format it. Then finish the XP install and it's
all good.

He/she also will need drivers -- for the motherboard, video adapter,
sound, etc.

 

[Mamamegs]

BSchnur has brought this to us :

He/she also will need drivers -- for the motherboard, video adapter,
sound, etc.

???? :-?

--
Mamamegs.

I reject your reality and substitute my own.
(Adam Savage)

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[Scott]

I just bought a new computer that has Windows Vista Home Premium
pre-installed on it...I hate this new Vista and want to know if I can delete
it and install Xp on my computer. Is this possible??? If it is, how would I
go about doing it?

The more time I spend with Vista the worse XP looks (not that I ever
was that fond of it to begin with).

Give Vista a chance. You'll be surprised.

 

[BSchnur]

When you do a clean install of a operating system such as Windows XP
(and also Windows Vista), typically, the OS will have enough built in
drivers to get a basic install completed (exceptions would be support
for various SATA controllers including those embedded on the
motherboard).

Then, after the 'base install' is completed, you will need to install
hardware specific drivers, including the drivers specific to the
motherboard (sound, network adapter, USB 2.0 support, that sort of
thing), and the video adapter.

 

[Mamamegs]

BSchnur expressed precisely :

When you do a clean install of a operating system such as Windows XP
(and also Windows Vista), typically, the OS will have enough built in
drivers to get a basic install completed (exceptions would be support
for various SATA controllers including those embedded on the
motherboard).

Then, after the 'base install' is completed, you will need to install
hardware specific drivers, including the drivers specific to the
motherboard (sound, network adapter, USB 2.0 support, that sort of
thing), and the video adapter.

Ain't that stating the obvious? You made it sound as if he couldn't
install XP because it wouldn't have the right drivers...

He/she also will need drivers -- for the motherboard, video adapter,
sound, etc.

</q>

--
Mamamegs.

I reject your reality and substitute my own.
(Adam Savage)

Nederlandse nieuwsgroepen voor Vista
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microsoft.public.nl.windows.vista

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[Roy Coorne]

The more time I spend with Vista the worse XP looks (not that I ever
was that fond of it to begin with).

Give Vista a chance. You'll be surprised.

....if, yes if the 'new computer' has 1+ GB RAM and a graphics card
with WDDM driver;-)


rOy

 

[Scott]

...if, yes if the 'new computer' has 1+ GB RAM and a graphics card
with WDDM driver;-)

2 GB RAM, NVIDIA GeForce 6800 GT, 250 MB VRAM, WDDM Driver here.

Oh and I'm a Linux fanboy too.

 

[BSchnur]

That wasn't my intent. For a fair number of folks, this sort of thing
isn't obvious -- especially if they are purchasing systems with the OS
pre-installed.

Perhaps for you and I, building a system and installing the OS, then
installing the drivers, then updating the OS, then updating the
drivers, then flashing the BIOS is obvious. Then again, folks pay me
to do that and have been for a long time, so I expect it isn't obvious
to all.

 

[Mamamegs]

BSchnur presented the following explanation :

That wasn't my intent. For a fair number of folks, this sort of
thing isn't obvious -- especially if they are purchasing systems
with the OS pre-installed.

Perhaps for you and I, building a system and installing the OS, then
installing the drivers, then updating the OS, then updating the
drivers, then flashing the BIOS is obvious. Then again, folks pay me
to do that and have been for a long time, so I expect it isn't
obvious to all.

My sincere apologies... I sometimes tend to forget about the people
that
put butter on my bread! ;-)

--
Mamamegs.

I reject your reality and substitute my own.
(Adam Savage)

Nederlandse nieuwsgroepen voor Vista
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microsoft.public.nl.windows.vista

_*[email protected]*_

 

[Hugh Wyn Griffith]

If your "new PC with VISTA" is a laptop do not even think of doing this
until you have found that the laptop maker is providing files to
support XP on a model issued with VISTA on it. Some Toshiba laptops are
not showing any XP or earlier files and a laptop can be very
disadvantaged without specific laptop files.

You know you can set VISTA up to look pretty much like XP both for
menus and other visible features and that VISTA has a compatibility
mode that will enable some non-VISTA comaptible applications to run,
although I have not had to use that even on some very old software.

For what you would pay to buy a copy of XP for installation you could
get some more memory or a better graphics card (if it's not a laptop)
and others can help you tune VISTA.

PS What make and model of computer is it? How is it configured.

 

[BSchnur]

No problem -- for most of the newsgroups I haunt, I expect a fairly
high tech level. I don't apply that here -- the proportion of trolls
and flamers alone makes for a very busy 'ignore thread' and consign to
'bozo filter' content.

Then there are the sincere 'help me out' folks posting a LOT over here
for whom an OS 'upgrade' or 'downgrade' is really new stuff.

 

[Scott]

When you do a clean install of a operating system such as Windows XP
(and also Windows Vista), typically, the OS will have enough built in
drivers to get a basic install completed (exceptions would be support
for various SATA controllers including those embedded on the
motherboard).

SATA controller drivers are just like the rest. Some are supplied with
Windows some are not.

VIA VT8237 - Affirmative
PROMISE 378 - Negative

 

[BSchnur]

Understood -- and when they are not native to Windows, but are
available as downloads and the like, and you are building a new system,
the simplest solution would be to install to a supported IDE boot drive
and use the SATA controller for additional drives. Sometimes setting
up a floppy only for the new OS install seems shall we say, a tad
archaic.

 

[Guest]

Its a gateway GT5408 and I love the computer...fast enough for what I need
but I can't run any of my software I need for my work and I don't have the
time or the patience to wait for them to come up with updates that will work
with my programs.

 

[Guest]

Thank you for all of your inputs...I've tried changing Vista to look more
like the Windows format I'm used to and all that, but that's not the problem.
It's just not compatible with any of the software I need for my work and I
don't have time to wait for updates. Unfortunately I caved and called the
"geek squad' to come delete Vista and install XP. Soon I will be happy
again. I honestly think they should give you the option of which you want on
the computer (ie Vista or XP) when you purchase a new computer instead of
"sticking" you with thier newest thing. If I had known it was going to have
Vista on it I would have told my husband not to buy it. Thanks again for all
of your inputs.

 

[Hugh Wyn Griffith]

Hope you get it to a useable state.