Reformatting a drive.

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Brian V

I was wondering if you can check to see if your drive was formatted from a
store purchased and installed computer. I assume the store would format or
have formatted drives and then install the software. Is formatting ever
logged?

If I had two drives (say C: and D:), one has Windows installed on it and
other programs mostly. The other drive is mainly used for storage and certain
programs. How could I re-format the drive with windows and stuff on it? I
assume I would back-up, reformat, and re-install. But wouldn't reformatting
wipe out the drive contents? Hence shutting the system down?
 
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Pegasus [MVP]

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Brian V said:
I was wondering if you can check to see if your drive was formatted from a
store purchased and installed computer. I assume the store would format or
have formatted drives and then install the software. Is formatting ever
logged?

*** If Windows is installed on a disk that previously had another Windos
*** installation then you could see traces of the previous installation
*** with specialised software. Check Google for "unformat" tools.
If I had two drives (say C: and D:), one has Windows installed on it and
other programs mostly. The other drive is mainly used for storage and
certain
programs. How could I re-format the drive with windows and stuff on it? I
assume I would back-up, reformat, and re-install. But wouldn't
reformatting
wipe out the drive contents? Hence shutting the system down?

*** You boot your PC with your Windows installation CD, then follow
*** the prompts.
 
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thanatoid

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wrote in
I was wondering if you can check to see if your drive was
formatted from a store purchased and installed computer.

Not to my knowledge. Theoretically yes, but not practically
speaking.

Are you suspecting you bought a custom made "mew" machine with a
used drive?
assume the store would format or have formatted drives and
then install the software. Is formatting ever logged?

Never heard of that. But if you look at a HD you will see a
variety of small stickers on it, and who knows what some of them
may mean. I doubt that a store would junk a HD and take a new
one if something went wrong with the install - they would
reformat and reinstall on the same drive. But I doubt anyone
keeps track of stuff like that. There are utilities to tell what
/condition/ your drive is in - but that's not the same thing.
If I had two drives (say C: and D:), one has Windows
installed on it and other programs mostly. The other drive
is mainly used for storage and certain programs. How could
I re-format the drive with windows and stuff on it? I
assume I would back-up, reformat, and re-install. But
wouldn't reformatting wipe out the drive contents? Hence
shutting the system down?

Reformatting does not make the drive unusable (or whatever you
mean by "system down"), it just wipes ALL the data, making it
(theoretically/ideally) factory-fresh - but there ARE ways to
recover some or all of the data.

In any case, the drive needs to be partitioned (highly
recommended), formatted, and the OS and software installed.

You will need the original OS CD/DVD's to reinstall, and - if
they are not bootable, though they should be - a boot CD.

You could still /access/ the other drive just with the bootable
CD, but you wouldn't be able to actually RUN the OS without
first fully installing it (unless it was a small Linux distro
and you had a fair amount of memory to run it from, no way with
any Windows OS).
 
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Brian V

Well, I'll look into this stuff. Thank you.

The thing that kinda irked me and made me leery is when I bought the
computer from future shop and they only gave me a recovery disk. I never was
given the windows installation cd. I asked the guy who gave me the computer
at the desk, and even called the tech guys later. They told me they only give
the recovery disk.

Would this suffice for what you're telling me, or if my entire system
crashed? This would be exactly how I started up my system when I received it,
not with everything I installed and changed/modified the last 3 years I'v
owned this computer.
 
P

Paul

Brian said:
Well, I'll look into this stuff. Thank you.

The thing that kinda irked me and made me leery is when I bought the
computer from future shop and they only gave me a recovery disk. I never was
given the windows installation cd. I asked the guy who gave me the computer
at the desk, and even called the tech guys later. They told me they only give
the recovery disk.

Would this suffice for what you're telling me, or if my entire system
crashed? This would be exactly how I started up my system when I received it,
not with everything I installed and changed/modified the last 3 years I'v
owned this computer.

A recovery disc (CD or DVD) is intended to handle the situation, that your
only hard drive broke. You bought a new drive and installed it inside the
computer case as a replacement. If you use the recovery disc, it installs
an image of a factory C: partition, prepares an empty D: partition perhaps,
and might store a copy of the recovery disc in a third (hidden) partition.

The intent of a recovery disc, is not quite the same as a "repair install"
you might do with a Microsoft installer CD. A "repair install" attempts
to preserve user data and settings. A "recovery CD" or recovery partition,
may erase everything in sight, as it is intended to return the machine to
a factory state. And that is why, a user should read the manual that comes
with the machine carefully, to understand just what they're getting with
their machine.

It is possible to buy a computer, with a real Windows CD bundled with it.
I bought one at a local chain (Eurocom). So you don't have to accept computers with
"recovery" partition schemes. You can get a real CD if you want. I bought
a computer for a relative, and one of the options was for it to ship with
a real CD in the box. It was just as expensive as buying the CD at Best Buy,
so there was no saving involved by doing so. It does mean, that there
is no function key that the owner can press, that will wipe out the hard
drive :)

*******

When you get a pre-built computer, there are two things to address.

1) Immediately burn a recovery CD. The recovery setup on a pre-built
computer, is prepared to burn *one* set of media. If you want to make
duplicate copies of the recovery media, you do that outside the manufacturers
tool flow. You might also want to use a utility that can make an
ISO9660 image of the burned CD or DVD, so you can make more discs
in the future. The recovery software keeps track of whether it has
burned *one* copy, and won't let you burn another one. So protect
the contents, or be prepared to pay $50 later to get the discs.

2) Read the section of the manual, that addresses what pressing the recovery
function key would do. Such as erase all user data, format the partitions,
or whatever. Once you've read that section of the manual, you'll likely
want to immediately invest in some external disk(s) and some backup software.
The purpose of the backups, is to have a copy of important user data, for
when the day comes that the recovery feature must be used.

HTH,
Paul
 

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