My concern is that the people that allow GBs to pile up in their
Recycle Bin are most likely to be the very people that cannot make a
quick, intelligent decision on whether or not to bypass the Recycle
Bin when they are deleting something.
And to avoid accidentally deleting the Recycle Bin in Vista (which I
used to do myself), the OP could also download
vista_recyclebin_hidedelete.reg from Ramesh Srinivasan's blog at
http://www.winhelponline.com/articles/142/1/
Chad Harris wrote:
Hi DNK--
I certainly would agree with you it is anyone's job as a helper to
aid the person in doing what they want, so I offered my opinion and
included in the zip file what should precisely enable the OP to use
his RB the way he chooses. Perhaps I was severe in contexting a
safety feature on its face as training wheels, and I did not mean
to be derogatory. For that I apologize if my tone was perceived
as deprecatory. What does work for me is shift delete, and there
are some more complicated CLSID tweaks that I've seen in
Honeycutt's registry book and others on the XP registry which
shares the Vista CLSID keys precisely that I did not post because I
did not want to put up some lengthy regedits that the OP would
probably not want to use.
Your point of emptying the thing now and then is indeed a good
one. I also love DX Hog Hunt as a way of seeing what space is
occupied in each and every file and folder, but since the website
has been taken Danish and I don't speak it, I can't put up a link
for it anymore and I looked a good while several times in the past
few months.
As to the keyboard trick, I believe people who use Windows Vista
are smart enough to make a decision as to when to use shift+delete
and when not to. It will require an extra few seconds of
contemplation but I don't believe it's a dangerous trick to teach
anyone who is adult enough to use this group. I don't believe
small children are using it, and children who are should be old I
believe are exercise that discretion.
However, I am happy to put up some short easy regedits that will
help with the Recycle Bin and may help the OP and anyone else who
needs them:
From Tom Temple
Submitted by Tom Temple
(e-mail address removed)
http://www.onecomputerguy.com/registry_tips.htm#recycle
Recycle Bin Edits
Submitted 5/2/96
Fooling with the recycle bin. Why not make the icon context menu
act like other icon context menu's.
Add rename to the menu:
[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{645FF040-5081-101B-9F08-00AA002F954E}\ShellFolder]
"Attributes"=hex:50,01,00,20
Add delete to the menu:
[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{645FF040-5081-101B-9F08-00AA002F954E}\ShellFolder]
"Attributes"=hex:60,01,00,20
Add rename and delete to the menu:
[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{645FF040-5081-101B-9F08-00AA002F954E}\ShellFolder]
"Attributes"=hex:70,01,00,20
Restore the recycle bin to win 95 defaults including un-deleting
the icon after deletion:
... Restore the icon.
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\explorer\Desktop\NameSpace\{645FF040-5081-101B-9F08-00AA002F954E}]
@="Recycle Bin"
... reset win 95 defaults
.
[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{645FF040-5081-101B-9F08-00AA002F954E}\ShellFolder]
"Attributes"=hex:40,01,00,20
Other edits to the recycle bin icon:
[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{645FF040-5081-101B-9F08-00AA002F954E}\ShellFolder]
"Attributes"=hex:40,01,01,20 ... standard shortcut arrow
"Attributes"=hex:40,01,02,20 ... another shortcut arrow
"Attributes"=hex:40,01,04,20 ... and another shortcut arrow
"Attributes"=hex:40,01,08,20 ... make it look disabled (like it's
been cut)
I added the above edits for fun. But it gets you thinking.
Note: Adding rename and delete to the context menu takes effect
instantly. To restore the icon after deletion requires screen
refresh (F5).
Have fun.... Tom
Thanks,
CH
Hmm. I am glad to have the Recycle Bin, myself, as a temporary
storage for recently deleted files from which I can easily restore
them if necessary. I have needed to restore recently deleted files
many, many times over my years of using computers and can hardly
see the sense in dispensing with this convenient safety feature in
order to avoid the chore of regularly emptying the Recycle Bin.
Regarding these people with GBs of stuff in their bin, it makes
more sense to me to teach them to empty the thing now and then,
instead of trying to teach them keyboard tricks that will
immediately send their deleted files beyond their easy recovery.
Chad Harris wrote:
Hello DD--
In the first place it's a lot more sophistcated never to use the
recycle bin. I can't count the number of PCs I've worked on
where one of the complaints is my space vanished, only to find
besides pics and music and temp files that took GBs of real
estate that the owners had packed a GB or 2 in the recycle bin.
SHIFT + DELETE= nothing piling up and gobbling your real estate
in the bin.
Recycle bin is like the training wheels you used to learn to ride
a bike when you were 3 or 4 years old.
You're grown up now. Why would you even need it?
If you want the recycle bin on your desktop however, and want to
pile crap into it then it's a piece of cake to do it.
I don't know why yours is behaving erratically with text and not
the icon on the desktop.
Rt. click desktop>personalize>change desktop icons (hyperlink on
left)>ck. mark in recycle bin.
Considering your past history with an erratic recycle bin I offer
this to you--this does what you want.
"Enhanced Recycle Bin Menu"
ERBM+.reg replaces the Delete command from the Recycle Bin with a
Clear Temp command.
This prevents users from accidentally deleting the Recycle Bin
Icon from the Desktop.
It also adds a Disk Cleanup command which performs an Extended
Disc Cleanup on all disks.
The Clear Temp command clears both Temp dirs:
%UserProfile%\AppData\Local\Temp and %SystemRoot%\Temp.
Install: merge ERBM+.reg
Uninstall: merge ERBM-.reg
http://herby.virtualplastic.net/files/ERBM.zip
Enjoy.
CH
Believe me, Vista is not like Hitler. Vista has not taken your
children from you, put you on a train and beat you , stacked you
up literally with hundreds of other people and no food and no
toilet, in incredible heat and cold and then beat you into a gas
chamber or an incinerator. That my friend, is what Hitler did
and let me make it damn clear, President Roosevelt knew it was
happening for years before he lifted a finger to do anything
about it and then only because his literal ass was threatened and
his country was bombed, and it was long after members of his
cabinet pleaded with him to stop the extermination of people and
after 6 million had been exterminated after being tortured,
having all their possessions and families ripped from them. Many
of the possessions haven't been restored by different governments
today and it has taken long, expensive litigation to get some of
it back.
You probably live in an indifferent country called the US that is
getting just the democracy it deserves while thousands of your
country men have died for nothing, hundreds of thousands of
Iraquis have, 2 million Iraqui women have been forced into
prostitution in Syria, mere hundreds have been allowed into the
US after their country has been turned into an inferno, and one
of the lying architects of that will be denied an appeal bond in
about 24 hours and sent on the road to prison named Libby. 12 of
the most distinguished attorneys in the nation have made one of
the most stupid arguments imaginable in their motion for an
appeal bond that will be denied.
Many of the supporters of the war who want to be President like
Guilliani got multiple deferments because they were afraid to go
to war. Cheney got 6 of them. Bush ran away and hid and his
daddy got him into a national guard training for a plane that
would never go to Nam. When he was asked to report for a physical
for a plane that was going, he hid for months and did not report
to said physical exam. Ashcroft got multiple deferments and the
architect for ignoring all laws, Gonzales did as well.
Fitzgerald's brief writer demolished all 12 of them in her reply
brief filed yesterday.
http://justoneminute.typepad.com/main/files/Libby_o70612_Govt_Resp_Bail.pdf
If you're Libby right now, the angst of sure prison has overtaken
all your thoughts, and that's a very good thing. He could have
revealed that Bush and Cheney were behind his lying and he has
chosen to say nothing. He'll have a couple years of actual time
to think about it.
"Disco Dillusion" <
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wrote in message
ok, first off...Vista....AAAAAHH!!!!! second off, ive read alot
of the posts
already on this subject...and! i dont think most people are
"accidently"
deleting there recycle bin....i know how to get it back, so
thats not the
question. Ive used every version of Windows since 95, and i
have NEVER
deleted it by accident, so i know im not doing it now. Further
more! im
having two issues with Recycle Bin, first one is it auto
deleting itself from
my desktop leaving an empty spot in my icons. Second one is the
icon itself
is gone, but not the text "Recycle Bin" below it....thats two
separate issues
with one program, and just one of the many many MANY problems
ive had with
Vista.
