Recommendations?

[Edwin Pawlowski]

I'm not sure if anyone caught my last post... maybe I should have started
a
new thread. But I got my printer and then did some comparisons with two
other printers, using Kodak paper in all of them. The Canon seemed to have
kind of a pink hue to it. Whether that was the paper or the printer I
don't
know, but I have ordered some paper from Office Depot so I can compare.
Anyway, I posted the results (with images) at http://mewnlite.com/printers

Yes, and I'd be interested in the result when you do the comparison. What
catches my eye first is the skin tones. The HP looks best to me, the Canon
the worst. The red shirt also seems washed out a bit, even the blue in the
jeans is lighter. The person on the left, in the mirror, looks marginally
better for exposure, but not color, on the Canon though. I have to wonder
if the results would be different if you made changes on printer settings
too. So many possible variables.

 

[measekite]

WERE YOU USING OEM INK?

Yes, and I'd be interested in the result when you do the comparison. What
catches my eye first is the skin tones. The HP looks best to me, the Canon
the worst.

I FOUND THE OPPOSITE USING OEM INK

 

[measekite]

So, that was you peeking through the window at my house.

WHERE DO YOU LIVE

 

[Edwin Pawlowski]

WERE YOU USING OEM INK?

I didn't use any inks. I was referring to the photos on the OP's web page.
You really have to read, not just interject about OEM inks.

 

[Frank]

I didn't use any inks. I was referring to the photos on the OP's web page.
You really have to read, not just interject about OEM inks.

He can't read! Nor does he know anything about inks, paper or printers.
He is also a pathological liar.
Frank

 

[Gary Tait]

I'm not sure if anyone caught my last post... maybe I should have
started a new thread. But I got my printer and then did some
comparisons with two other printers, using Kodak paper in all of them.
The Canon seemed to have kind of a pink hue to it. Whether that was
the paper or the printer I don't know, but I have ordered some paper
from Office Depot so I can compare. Anyway, I posted the results (with
images) at http://mewnlite.com/printers

It could be the paper. What I found out (from the Kodak site) to to is set
Magenta to -10, Yellow and Intensity to +5 each

 

[measekite]

It could be the paper. What I found out (from the Kodak site) to to is set
Magenta to -10, Yellow and Intensity to +5 each

CANON SAID KODAK DOES NOT WORK WELL IN THEIR PRINTER

 

[measekite]

I didn't use any inks. I was referring to the photos on the OP's web page.
You really have to read, not just interject about OEM inks.

OH

 

[Lil' Abner]

WERE YOU USING OEM INK?

Yes, with both printers.

 

[Stan Birch]

It could be the paper. What I found out (from the Kodak site) to to is set
Magenta to -10, Yellow and Intensity to +5 each

Adjusting these pics in Photo Shop, took Magenta -40 to neutralize the
Magenta bias. I don't know who -40 in Photoshop compares to the
numberical increments in the Canon Printer Driver though.

When I tried Kodak paper a few years ago, I didn't notice any colour
shift. The only problem was that the ink pooled instead of being
absorbed into the paper.

To determine where the problem lies, I think it's probably best to
first make some reference prints on Canon Photo Pro, and then compare
prints made with other papers to the reference photos. Prints on Photo
Pro are going to be as close to the original as you are going to find.

 

[Prime]

WERE YOU USING OEM INK?

Of course he was, that is Orifice Expulsion Method ink (OEM)! All inkjets
work this way.

I FOUND THE OPPOSITE USING OEM INK

Meankite, you have both a Canon and an HP? I didn't know that. Does that
mean you have >10 printers of each type to get a good statistical test. If
not, according to you, your results cannot be trusted and are not
representative.

Perhaps your clog is clouding your brain and affecting your keyboard.

 

[zakezuke]

Nah, all inks are about the same. Black is black, yellow is yellow, who

cares.

Ink is actually a high technology. One of the main reasons to pick a
printer is the type of ink it offers as stock OEM. Now measkite may be
a troll and be overly obsessed with OEM ink but do keep in mind the
fact that printers, papers, and ink are part of a system designed to
operate together. This is not to say you can't pick and choose what
you want, only that the stock offerings should be considered a
baseline.

For example I usually use MIS (image specalists) ink and kirkland
paper. Works well enough. It's more prone to faiding but for
something like a CD/DVD cover i'm not all that worried about it.
Someone else might pick HP, or Epson. Both are rather spiffy each in
their own way.

 

[william.pease]

Lil', I think your experiment would have a heck of a lot more meaning
if you had printed the same picture on your HP printer with HP paper,
on your Brother printer with Brother paper (if there is any), and on
your Canon printer with Canon paper, the reason being that not all
printers print well on all papers, but best on papers designed for them
by the printer manufacturers.

I think, for instance, that Canon printers (of which I have one) have
long been noted for not printing well on Kodak papers-- the colors just
don't come out right. For this reason I think your experiment is flawed
and does not actually show you which printer prints best. Use the
correct papers for each printer and then you'll get more accurate
results.

I've fallen in love with the lady in your picture. She's a darlin'.

Bill P.

 

[Edwin Pawlowski]

My experence with paper and ink is limited, but I would have to
disagree with respect. From my limited understanding there are at
least two major types of inkjet papers... the swellable and the
microporous .The Canon glossy paper pro is microporous and you can
actually run this stuff under a tap without smearing or bleeding The
difference can be huge. For example I needed some thinner paper and
went with some Great White Glossy photo #96212, not a good choice at
all as you could see banding. It worked much better on my epson.

I'm talking about print color quality, not waterproof or lack of. Who makes
Great White? Is it recommended for all brands?

 

[zakezuke]

I'm talking about print color quality, not waterproof or lack of. Who makes

Great White? Is it recommended for all brands?

The medium would affect the quality esp if there is a fundamental
difference in the media. The two types described are fundamental
different.

Great white is a product of "international paper".
http://www.internationalpaper.com/Paper/Paper.html the same folks who
make hammermill The stuff I bought provides the lowest quality images
i've ever seen on my ip3000, not so bad on my epson r200. I seem to
remember it was kinda spiffy on my HP 950.



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[Bob Headrick]

I'm talking about print color quality, not waterproof or lack of. Who
makes Great White? Is it recommended for all brands?

Given that it was "not a good choice at all as you could see banding" I
would suspect it would not be recommended for all brands, at least by
the users.

Believe it or not, printer manufacturers really do tune their ink, paper
and printers to work well together. You might be surprised at the
differences in print quality and color matching using a manufacturer's
tested combination.

Regards,
Bob Headrick, MS MVP Printing/Imaging

 

[Edwin Pawlowski]

Believe it or not, printer manufacturers really do tune their ink, paper
and printers to work well together. You might be surprised at the
differences in print quality and color matching using a manufacturer's
tested combination.

Regards,
Bob Headrick, MS MVP Printing/Imaging

I have no doubts of that. I've use secondary market ink with no problem at
all for printing text. Who cares if the blue is off a shade if you are
making a poster for a yard sale or birthday party invitation. . OTOH, for
photographs, I want the best possible image and use OEM ink all the time.

I just printed a photo on Canon paper and Kodak paper. Frankly, I don't see
any serious difference on those with the color. (in another post I made
mention of doing a balance on this anyway as both were too magenta). The
Canon may be just a tad warmer, but the Kodak would still be a keeper. Comes
down to color preference they are so slight. I do see a slight difference
in texture under certain circumstances. Looking dead on, I don't see it,
but holding them at about 45 degrees to the light source, the Canon is
smoother.

The printer is new to me and I have some experimenting to do. I'm sticking
with factory ink though, there are enough other variables to deal with.

 

[measekite]

HE JOINED THE SAME CLUB ART JOINED. TELL US ABOUT IT

I have no doubts of that. I've use secondary market ink with no problem at
all for printing text. Who cares if the blue is off a shade if you are
making a poster for a yard sale or birthday party invitation. . OTOH, for
photographs, I want the best possible image and use OEM ink all the time.

I just printed a photo on Canon paper and Kodak paper.

DID YOU USE CANON AND HP INK?

Frankly, I don't see
any serious difference on those with the color. (in another post I made
mention of doing a balance on this anyway as both were too magenta). The
Canon may be just a tad warmer, but the Kodak would still be a keeper. Comes
down to color preference they are so slight. I do see a slight difference
in texture under certain circumstances. Looking dead on, I don't see it,
but holding them at about 45 degrees to the light source, the Canon is
smoother.

The printer is new to me and I have some experimenting to do. I'm sticking
with factory ink though,

THATS SMART

there are enough other variables to deal with.

OH YEAH

 

[measekite]

WE KNOW
THAT IS TOTALLY UNTRUE

I'm talking about print color quality, not waterproof or lack of. Who makes
Great White?

OFFICE DEPOT HAS IT MADE FOR THEM

 

[measekite]

measekite <[email protected]> posted the exciting message




Of course he was, that is Orifice Expulsion Method ink (OEM)! All inkjets
work this way.

YOU ARE A LOVER OF OFIFICE EXPULSION

Meankite, you have both a Canon and an HP? I didn't know that. Does that
mean you have >10 printers of each type to get a good statistical test. If
not, according to you, your results cannot be trusted and are not
representative.

Perhaps your clog is clouding your brain and affecting your keyboard.

YOU TONGUE TICKLES