Recommendations?

[Edwin Pawlowski]

Canon printers don't work with all photo papers; in fact very few
beyond Canon Papers. Kodak paper is absolutely aweful! The ink puddled
and pooled, and made a terrible mess.

Interesting. I bought a Canon just a week ago. The seemingly very
knowledgeable manager at Staples told me different. He said Kodak paper
with a Canon is better than Canon paper. I've not done a side by side yet,
but the dozen photos I've printed on the Kodak paper were very good and no
ink puddling.

He also stated that HP and Epson work best with their own brand of paper,
but Kodak does a good job also, Staples brand just a tad behind them on all
printers.

 

[zakezuke]

Interesting. I bought a Canon just a week ago. The seemingly very

knowledgeable manager at Staples told me different. He said Kodak paper
with a Canon is better than Canon paper.

By all means share exactly what you bought, title to the barcode
number. It may be possible that your Staples manager knew what he was
talking about and gave you a reccomendation based on what they sell.
I've avoided buying Kodak due the fact that no one has ever reccomended
any of it for the Canon. But if it works for someone I might give it a
shot.

 

[measekite]

Interesting. I bought a Canon just a week ago. The seemingly very
knowledgeable manager at Staples told me different.

FOR THE MOST PART IF THE HELP AT STAPLES APPEAR KNOWLEDGEABLE IT IS
BECAUSE OF THE COMPARISON BETWEEN THEM AND THE CUSTOMER

 

[measekite]

(e-mail address removed) (Stan Birch) wrote in

NOT TRUE. KODAK YES BUT ILFORD, KIRKLAND, AND MOST EPSON PAPERS WORK
FINE. SO I DO NOT THINK VERY FEW IS APPROPRIATE.

YES

WRONG. THE BEST ALTERNATIVE TO CANON PHOTO PAPER PRO IS
COSTCO/KIRKLAND(ILFORD)

 

[measekite]

VERY LITTLE EXPERIMENTING. GO GET SOME COSTCO/KIRKLAND GLOSSY PHOTO
PAPER. IT IS JUST A TINY HAIR BELOW CANON PHOTO PAPER PRO. AT ANY
VIEWING DISTANCE YOU CANNOT TELL THE DIFFERENCE WHEN USING OEM INK.
GO TO THE CANON WEBSITE AND READ THE DIFFERENCE FROM THE SPECS
HIGH IS BEST

There is really no need to set anything up. I've been using Canon
printers for a number of years now, and haven't found anything that
does a better job of doing everything automatically. The only thing
you have to do is select the kind of paper you are using, and Easy
Photo Print will bypass any of the parameters set in the printer
driver, and provide you will the best output available.

PHOTOSHOP IS BETTER TO USE

 

[measekite]

THE FOLLOWING IS NOT CORRECT. THERE WERE VERY SPECIFIC INSTRUCTIONS ON
HOW TO SET UP AND INSTALL THE PRINT HEAD AND THE CARTS.

My 5000 Quick Start Guide (a paper booklet) detailed (enough for me), how
to "assemble" the printer out of the box. I think I had to almost figure
out the lower cassette myself

I DIDN'T

(it wasn't made clear it works printing
surface down), and the PictBridge feature (camera settng).





The better Canons are a happy medium that way. The tanks can be easily
refilled and reused, and aftermarket tanks can be purchased (not yet for
the 4200 though),

THAT IS GOOD.
YOU NEVER WANT TO DO THAT. WHY RISK A CLOGGED PRINTHEAD AND ACCEPT
LOWER QUALITY.

and the head replaced as needed (although you shouldn't
have to, withint in printer's lifetime,cared for), or even removed for
servicing. With HP/Lexmark, you but heads each time you buy a cart

THAT IS PARTIALLY TRUE. SOME OF HP PRINTERS HAVE SEPARATE REPLACABLE
PRINTHEADS AND OTHERS HAVE PRINTHEADS INTEGRATED IN THE CART. IT
DEPENDS ON THE MODEL.

THIS IS ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF PEOPLE IN THIS NG THAT DO NOT KNOW WHAT THEY
ARE TALKING ABOUT AND THEY ARE THE ONES WHO POST THAT I DO NOT. WELL GO
TO THE HP WEBSITE AND YOU WILL FIND THE TRUTH.

, and
even aftermarket carts cost more, as they are reconditioned/filled OEM
carts.
TRASH

Epson are the other extereme, as their head is built into the
printer, and is not intended to be user serviced or replaced.

THE DOCUMENTATION WAS VERY ADEQUATE
READ THE MANUAL
IT IS AND IT IS OBVIOUS
TAKE AN ENGLISH COURSE

 

[measekite]

Did you have a quick set up sheet (big fold out)? If should have been
in the package. My 4000 set up sheet had by-the-number instructions
that showed how to put the head and the cartridges in the printer.

The big black cartridge (pigmented) is for text, the smaller black
cartridge (dye) is used with photos.

Print settings are largely a personal preference, however, many papers
include a sheet that shows a basic starting point for setting on
various printer. I always use the normal quality setting, but it is a
personal preference. +

THE HIGH SETTING IS BETTER

 

[Edwin Pawlowski]

FOR THE MOST PART IF THE HELP AT STAPLES APPEAR KNOWLEDGEABLE IT IS
BECAUSE OF THE COMPARISON BETWEEN THEM AND THE CUSTOMER

So, you buy a lot at Staples?

What tune would you like next, a little faster pace for your next dance?

 

[measekite]

So, you buy a lot at Staples?

What tune would you like next, a little faster pace for your next dance?

SO YOU DANCE IN DA OLD COUNTRY?

 

[Lil' Abner]

I have an HP Deskjet 722C printer that I must have had for 4 years or
so now. It does excellent work and has given me no problems
whatsoever. But I have worked it to death and want to replace it
before it dies on me. What printers are out there now that will do at
*least* as good a job as this one and possibly a little faster. I do a
lot of photo quality printing on glossy photo paper. This thing cost
me over $300 at the time but it appears that quality inkjet printers
have come down a lot since that.
I don't want to spend any more than I have to, but I don't want to
wind
up with a piece of junk either.
Any suggestions?

If you're interested... I've been playing a bit...
at http://mewnlite.com/printers

 

[Prime]

VERY LITTLE EXPERIMENTING. GO GET SOME COSTCO/KIRKLAND GLOSSY PHOTO
PAPER. IT IS JUST A TINY HAIR BELOW CANON PHOTO PAPER PRO. AT ANY
VIEWING DISTANCE YOU CANNOT TELL THE DIFFERENCE WHEN USING OEM INK.

I don't know about that. That aftermarket paper may cause clogs. You don't
know who really makes it - does Costco tell you? They slap their labels on
it and you don't know what you are getting. It could cause clogs. Why don't
you take your >10 printers and run some statistical tests. While you are at
it, you might unclog your tush and be able to type in lower case again.

 

[Prime]

THAT IS GOOD.
YOU NEVER WANT TO DO THAT. WHY RISK A CLOGGED PRINTHEAD AND ACCEPT
LOWER QUALITY.

....such as the lower quality of that all-caps typing you see above.

THIS IS ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF PEOPLE IN THIS NG THAT DO NOT KNOW WHAT
THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT AND THEY ARE THE ONES WHO POST THAT I DO NOT.
WELL GO TO THE HP WEBSITE AND YOU WILL FIND THE TRUTH.

Please tell me the web site that tells me about inky stinky.

TAKE AN ENGLISH COURSE

....because if you do, you too will be able to post such gems as

"SO YOU DANCE IN DA OLD COUNTRY?"
"MEOW"
"DA BEEFER GETS WHAT HE DESERVES"
"DO YOU MEAN THE CHURCH OF THE LATTER DAY INKIE STINKIES"

 

[Edwin Pawlowski]

By all means share exactly what you bought, title to the barcode
number. It may be possible that your Staples manager knew what he was
talking about and gave you a reccomendation based on what they sell.
I've avoided buying Kodak due the fact that no one has ever reccomended
any of it for the Canon. But if it works for someone I might give it a
shot.

I'm using a Pixma 6600D and the Kodak Premium. The results are very good,
but I've not done any side by side comparisons yet with Canon or other
brands of paper. He did state that the major printer companies have minor
differences in their ink and paper that makes the HP=HP and Epson=Epson good
combinations and I would expect that to be true. I hope to do some testing
myself in the next few weeks. Given the small price differences, I'm more
interested in quality than saving $1 on a box of paper.

 

[zakezuke]

He did state that the major printer companies have minor

differences in their ink and paper that makes the HP=HP and Epson=Epson good
combinations and I would expect that to be true

My experence with paper and ink is limited, but I would have to
disagree with respect. From my limited understanding there are at
least two major types of inkjet papers... the swellable and the
microporous .The Canon glossy paper pro is microporous and you can
actually run this stuff under a tap without smearing or bleeding The
difference can be huge. For example I needed some thinner paper and
went with some Great White Glossy photo #96212, not a good choice at
all as you could see banding. It worked much better on my epson.

 

[measekite]

AH DAY FINELLY GIT TOGADDER.

I'm using a Pixma 6600D and the Kodak Premium. The results are very good,

NO THEY ARE NOT. EVERYONE KNOWS, INCLUDING CANON HAT KODAK PAPER
PRODUCES POOR RESULTS IN CANON PRINTERS. THAT IS WHY CANON TOLD ME NOT
TO USED IT. THEY RECOMMENDED EPSON PAPER IF I DID NOT WANT TO USE CANON
PAPER.

but I've not done any side by side comparisons yet with Canon or other
brands of paper.3

I HAVE.

I COMPARED CANON PHOTO PAPER PRO, OFFICE DEPOT, EPSON, COSTCO/KIRKLAND
(ILFORD), AND SURETHING ALL SIDE BY SIDE USING THE SAME GROUP OF
PHOTOS. WHILE THE CANON PHOTO PAPER PRO WON OUT THE COSTCO PAPER WAS SO
CLOSE THAT THE CHOICE BETWEEN THEM SHOULD BE BASED ON PRICE AND COSTCO
IS 1/7 OF THE COST.

He did state that the major printer companies have minor
differences in their ink

THERE IS ONLY ONE INK FOR THE CANON AND THAT IS CANON. DIFFERENT MODELS
DO HAVE VARIATIONS IN FORMULATIONS.

and paper that makes the HP=HP and Epson=Epson good
combinations and I would expect that to be true. I hope to do some testing
myself in the next few weeks. Given the small price differences, I'm more
interested in quality than saving $1 on a box of paper.

YOU SHOULD BE MORE INTERESTED IN INK QUALITY.

 

[measekite]

measekite <[email protected]> posted the exciting message



...such as the lower quality of that all-caps typing you see above.



Please tell me the web site that tells me about inky stinky.




...because if you do, you too will be able to post such gems as

"SO YOU DANCE IN DA OLD COUNTRY?"
"MEOW"
"DA BEEFER GETS WHAT HE DESERVES"
"DO YOU MEAN THE CHURCH OF THE LATTER DAY INKIE STINKIES"

HA HA HA
THAT IS FUNNIE

 

[measekite]

measekite <[email protected]> posted the exciting message




I don't know about that. That aftermarket paper may cause clogs.

ONLY FOR IDIOTS WHO USE AFTERMARKET INK

You don't
know who really makes it - does Costco tell you?

THEY CERTAINLY WILL

They slap their labels on
it and you don't know what you are getting.

SOME OF THE COSTCO LABELS THAT SAY KIRKLAND ALSO HAVE THE MFG NAME ON
THE PRODUCT ALSO.

It could cause clogs. Why don't
you take your >10 printers and run some statistical tests. While you are at
it, you might unclog your tush

I HAVE DECIDED TO TAKE YOUR ADVICE AND UNCLOG MY TUSH. WOULD YOU PLEASE
REMOVE YOUR TONGUE.

 

[Gary Tait]

By all means share exactly what you bought, title to the barcode
number. It may be possible that your Staples manager knew what he was
talking about and gave you a reccomendation based on what they sell.
I've avoided buying Kodak due the fact that no one has ever reccomended
any of it for the Canon. But if it works for someone I might give it a
shot.

This is my expierience with Kodak paper and Canon printer.

Product:
Kodak Picture Paper - Soft Gloss
Cat 194 2283 UPC 41771 94228

The prints aren't entirely the best, but are fair, and yes, liquid affects
them.

 

[Edwin Pawlowski]

NO THEY ARE NOT.

So, that was you peeking through the window at my house.

YOU SHOULD BE MORE INTERESTED IN INK QUALITY.

Nah, all inks are about the same. Black is black, yellow is yellow, who
cares.

 

[Lil' Abner]

By all means share exactly what you bought, title to the barcode
number. It may be possible that your Staples manager knew what he was
talking about and gave you a reccomendation based on what they sell.
I've avoided buying Kodak due the fact that no one has ever reccomended
any of it for the Canon. But if it works for someone I might give it a
shot.

I'm not sure if anyone caught my last post... maybe I should have started a
new thread. But I got my printer and then did some comparisons with two
other printers, using Kodak paper in all of them. The Canon seemed to have
kind of a pink hue to it. Whether that was the paper or the printer I don't
know, but I have ordered some paper from Office Depot so I can compare.
Anyway, I posted the results (with images) at http://mewnlite.com/printers