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Peter
I'd appreciate recommendations on a high quality processor cooling fan. I
will be using the P4C-800E Deluxe motherboard and a 3.4GHz P4 chip.
Thanks.
will be using the P4C-800E Deluxe motherboard and a 3.4GHz P4 chip.
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Philip Callan
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Peter wrote:
| I'd appreciate recommendations on a high quality processor cooling fan. I
| will be using the P4C-800E Deluxe motherboard and a 3.4GHz P4 chip.
| Thanks.
|
Do you intend to overclock at all?
If not, stick with P4 3.4 Intel HSF
all the 3.0G+ HSF have been these nice copper cored beasts, I idle
around 31, load about 58. (house is normally 25C)
If you dont plan on running it out of spec, that Intel HSF will work
better than many aftermarket solutions (albeit they may run quieter due
to fan design, or louder....)
Philip
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Peter wrote:
| I'd appreciate recommendations on a high quality processor cooling fan. I
| will be using the P4C-800E Deluxe motherboard and a 3.4GHz P4 chip.
| Thanks.
|
Do you intend to overclock at all?
If not, stick with P4 3.4 Intel HSF
all the 3.0G+ HSF have been these nice copper cored beasts, I idle
around 31, load about 58. (house is normally 25C)
If you dont plan on running it out of spec, that Intel HSF will work
better than many aftermarket solutions (albeit they may run quieter due
to fan design, or louder....)
Philip
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Peter
Peter wrote:
| I'd appreciate recommendations on a high quality processor cooling fan. I
| will be using the P4C-800E Deluxe motherboard and a 3.4GHz P4 chip.
| Thanks.
|
Do you intend to overclock at all?
No plans to overclock.
If not, stick with P4 3.4 Intel HSF
all the 3.0G+ HSF have been these nice copper cored beasts, I idle
around 31, load about 58. (house is normally 25C)
If you dont plan on running it out of spec, that Intel HSF will work
better than many aftermarket solutions (albeit they may run quieter due
to fan design, or louder....)
What can you recommend that would be quieter and also good quality?
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Philip Callan
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Peter wrote:
|>If you dont plan on running it out of spec, that Intel HSF will work
|>better than many aftermarket solutions (albeit they may run quieter due
|>to fan design, or louder....)
|
|
| What can you recommend that would be quieter and also good quality?
|
|
~From the general advice on the groups, fair numbers have chosen either
this one:
http://www.zalman.co.kr/english/product/cnps7000alcu.htm
or this one:
http://www.thermaltake.com/coolers/spark/a1715.htm
Although the thermaltake is louder, it does come with PCI and 5.25" bay
control panels and a temperature diode, it will regulate its RPM by temp
if allowed.
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Peter wrote:
|>If you dont plan on running it out of spec, that Intel HSF will work
|>better than many aftermarket solutions (albeit they may run quieter due
|>to fan design, or louder....)
|
|
| What can you recommend that would be quieter and also good quality?
|
|
~From the general advice on the groups, fair numbers have chosen either
this one:
http://www.zalman.co.kr/english/product/cnps7000alcu.htm
or this one:
http://www.thermaltake.com/coolers/spark/a1715.htm
Although the thermaltake is louder, it does come with PCI and 5.25" bay
control panels and a temperature diode, it will regulate its RPM by temp
if allowed.
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Tryphon
I second that, same config, same problem the Zalman 7000CU solved it
perfectly.
perfectly.
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Peter
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Peter wrote:
|>If you dont plan on running it out of spec, that Intel HSF will work
|>better than many aftermarket solutions (albeit they may run quieter due
|>to fan design, or louder....)
|
|
| What can you recommend that would be quieter and also good quality?
|
|
~From the general advice on the groups, fair numbers have chosen either
this one:
http://www.zalman.co.kr/english/product/cnps7000alcu.htm
or this one:
http://www.thermaltake.com/coolers/spark/a1715.htm
Although the thermaltake is louder, it does come with PCI and 5.25" bay
control panels and a temperature diode, it will regulate its RPM by temp
if allowed.
Does anyone know what the differences are between the Zalman CNPS7000 and
the CNPS7000A? What's different about the version with the A?
Also, what is considered better ... Cu which is all copper or AlCu which
is an aluminum/copper mix?
Peter
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Philip Callan
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Peter wrote:
| Does anyone know what the differences are between the Zalman CNPS7000 and
| the CNPS7000A? What's different about the version with the A?
|
The CNPS7000 is a HS/F for the following sockets:
INTEL Pentium 4 (Socket478) and
AMD Athlon 64 (Socket754)
The CNPS700A is a HS/F for the following sockets:
Intel Pentium 4 (Socket478),
AMD Athlon/Duron/Athlon XP (Socket 462), and
AMD Athlon 64 (Socket754)
| Also, what is considered better ... Cu which is all copper or AlCu which
| is an aluminum/copper mix?
That depends on the speed of processor, copper is heavier, but
dissipates heat well, and is mostly used on higher clocked chips (My P4
2.8C was Aluminum HS/F Retail Box, My P4 3.0C has a copper cored HS/F,
obviously Intel has more confidence in a Al/Cu mix on higher clocked chips.
| Peter
|
Philip
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Peter wrote:
| Does anyone know what the differences are between the Zalman CNPS7000 and
| the CNPS7000A? What's different about the version with the A?
|
The CNPS7000 is a HS/F for the following sockets:
INTEL Pentium 4 (Socket478) and
AMD Athlon 64 (Socket754)
The CNPS700A is a HS/F for the following sockets:
Intel Pentium 4 (Socket478),
AMD Athlon/Duron/Athlon XP (Socket 462), and
AMD Athlon 64 (Socket754)
| Also, what is considered better ... Cu which is all copper or AlCu which
| is an aluminum/copper mix?
That depends on the speed of processor, copper is heavier, but
dissipates heat well, and is mostly used on higher clocked chips (My P4
2.8C was Aluminum HS/F Retail Box, My P4 3.0C has a copper cored HS/F,
obviously Intel has more confidence in a Al/Cu mix on higher clocked chips.
| Peter
|
Philip
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Peter
Peter wrote:
| Also, what is considered better ... Cu which is all copper or AlCu which
| is an aluminum/copper mix?
That depends on the speed of processor, copper is heavier, but
dissipates heat well, and is mostly used on higher clocked chips (My P4
2.8C was Aluminum HS/F Retail Box, My P4 3.0C has a copper cored HS/F,
obviously Intel has more confidence in a Al/Cu mix on higher clocked chips.
I will be using a P4 3.4GHz. Should I go with Copper or AlCu mix?
Peter
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Philip Callan
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Peter wrote:
|
|
|>Peter wrote:
|>| Also, what is considered better ... Cu which is all copper or AlCu which
|>| is an aluminum/copper mix?
|>
|>That depends on the speed of processor, copper is heavier, but
|>dissipates heat well, and is mostly used on higher clocked chips (My P4
|>2.8C was Aluminum HS/F Retail Box, My P4 3.0C has a copper cored HS/F,
|>obviously Intel has more confidence in a Al/Cu mix on higher clocked
chips.
|
|
| I will be using a P4 3.4GHz. Should I go with Copper or AlCu mix?
|
| Peter
|
You should stick with your stock Intel Al/Cu that they send you, unless
you feel its necessary to switch for noise consideration, or intend to
overclock, and then I would go a HSF with the same composition your CPU
Manufacturer uses (Al/Cu)
Warning: the 7000A-AlCu IIRC is *heavier* than the max allowable for a
HSF on a P4 CPU, if during application you apply to much force, and
crack your CPU, your SOL as the warranty will not apply, so take care to
follow Zalmans advice and tips for applying your new HSF.
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Peter wrote:
|
|
|>Peter wrote:
|>| Also, what is considered better ... Cu which is all copper or AlCu which
|>| is an aluminum/copper mix?
|>
|>That depends on the speed of processor, copper is heavier, but
|>dissipates heat well, and is mostly used on higher clocked chips (My P4
|>2.8C was Aluminum HS/F Retail Box, My P4 3.0C has a copper cored HS/F,
|>obviously Intel has more confidence in a Al/Cu mix on higher clocked
chips.
|
|
| I will be using a P4 3.4GHz. Should I go with Copper or AlCu mix?
|
| Peter
|
You should stick with your stock Intel Al/Cu that they send you, unless
you feel its necessary to switch for noise consideration, or intend to
overclock, and then I would go a HSF with the same composition your CPU
Manufacturer uses (Al/Cu)
Warning: the 7000A-AlCu IIRC is *heavier* than the max allowable for a
HSF on a P4 CPU, if during application you apply to much force, and
crack your CPU, your SOL as the warranty will not apply, so take care to
follow Zalmans advice and tips for applying your new HSF.
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Stephen
I went with a ThermalTake Spark 7+ Laser.
I am getting about 40idle with 57 hammered temp readings with a 31 degree
MB.
It's running at 5000 rpm which is acceptable in sound but I would love
quiet.
How good is the temp control on the Zalman?
Would the Zalman be worth changing out for?
Steve
I am getting about 40idle with 57 hammered temp readings with a 31 degree
MB.
It's running at 5000 rpm which is acceptable in sound but I would love
quiet.
How good is the temp control on the Zalman?
Would the Zalman be worth changing out for?
Steve
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Philip Callan
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Stephen wrote:
| I went with a ThermalTake Spark 7+ Laser.
|
| I am getting about 40idle with 57 hammered temp readings with a 31 degree
| MB.
|
| It's running at 5000 rpm which is acceptable in sound but I would love
| quiet.
|
| How good is the temp control on the Zalman?
|
| Would the Zalman be worth changing out for?
|
| Steve
Thermaltake is nice, 40/57 is respectable.
Try buying a rheostat (fan control dial) to adjust speed, although on a
CPU HSF, I wouldnt, I would look more into replacing the fan with a
Panaflo or other low-noise model.
I have no idea with regards to the Zalman, I just posted relevant info,
like I've stated before, I use the stock Intel HSF, and I have a
particularly quiet case (Antec Sonata) so the noise from the HSF is
negligable.
Philip
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Stephen wrote:
| I went with a ThermalTake Spark 7+ Laser.
|
| I am getting about 40idle with 57 hammered temp readings with a 31 degree
| MB.
|
| It's running at 5000 rpm which is acceptable in sound but I would love
| quiet.
|
| How good is the temp control on the Zalman?
|
| Would the Zalman be worth changing out for?
|
| Steve
Thermaltake is nice, 40/57 is respectable.
Try buying a rheostat (fan control dial) to adjust speed, although on a
CPU HSF, I wouldnt, I would look more into replacing the fan with a
Panaflo or other low-noise model.
I have no idea with regards to the Zalman, I just posted relevant info,
like I've stated before, I use the stock Intel HSF, and I have a
particularly quiet case (Antec Sonata) so the noise from the HSF is
negligable.
Philip
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Stephen
Thanks Phillip,
The ThermalTake does have a nice little rheostat (as a matter of fact two,
one in a drive bay and one for the slots), but if I lower them I am looking
at higher temps. Actually my MB is capable of controlling my fan speed
itself.
I am not familiar with Panaflo, but will check them out.
Steve
The ThermalTake does have a nice little rheostat (as a matter of fact two,
one in a drive bay and one for the slots), but if I lower them I am looking
at higher temps. Actually my MB is capable of controlling my fan speed
itself.
I am not familiar with Panaflo, but will check them out.
Steve
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Boot Meyers
How quietly your computer runs, is purely subjective. I will share however,
my experience with the Zalman 7000-cu and the Asus P4C-800E DLX in building
a quiet PC.
The Zalman rocks. It is quiet. You have the option to install the included
fan control as well. At full speed, it is quiet. At the lowest fan setting,
silent. It is much quieter than the stock Intel heatsink that came with my
P4 3.2GHz. Don't worry about the weight too much unless you're moving the
tower all the time. (e.g. LAN Parties) The P4C-800 E DLX I have is revision
2.0 and it has a solid metal plate on the backside underneath the CPU mount.
It's strong enough to withstand the mounting of a Zalman 7000-cu without
uneccessarily bending the motherboard. There is enough clearance on the
motherboard to mount the 7000-cu without interfering with the heatsink on
the northbridge. Temps are 35C idle and 48c full load. I used Arctic Silver
5 as the thermal interface between HS and CPU
I have this all mounted in an Antec Performance One 160 case along with 4
hard drives (1 SATA WD 36gig Raptor 10000rpm, 2 Seagate SATA 160's with
8megcache, 1 WD 200gig JB 8meg cache), a 8x DVD writer, Enermax 470
Noisetaker PS, ATI Radeon 9800 XT and 2 sticks of Kingston HyperX 512's. I
use a Nexus rheobus to control 2 120mm fans mounted with rubber mounts.
All I hear is a very faint hum at 2.5 feet away. Beyond that, it is
practically silent.
On my other rig running a Gigabyte 8KNXP, I have the 7000-alcu on a 3.0GHz
P4. Same gear and mounted inside an Antec Sonata. Thermal interface is
Arctic Silver III. Temps are 37c idle and 50C full load. Silent as well
beyond the very faint hum at 2.5 feet.
Hope that helps in your decision.
Boot
my experience with the Zalman 7000-cu and the Asus P4C-800E DLX in building
a quiet PC.
The Zalman rocks. It is quiet. You have the option to install the included
fan control as well. At full speed, it is quiet. At the lowest fan setting,
silent. It is much quieter than the stock Intel heatsink that came with my
P4 3.2GHz. Don't worry about the weight too much unless you're moving the
tower all the time. (e.g. LAN Parties) The P4C-800 E DLX I have is revision
2.0 and it has a solid metal plate on the backside underneath the CPU mount.
It's strong enough to withstand the mounting of a Zalman 7000-cu without
uneccessarily bending the motherboard. There is enough clearance on the
motherboard to mount the 7000-cu without interfering with the heatsink on
the northbridge. Temps are 35C idle and 48c full load. I used Arctic Silver
5 as the thermal interface between HS and CPU
I have this all mounted in an Antec Performance One 160 case along with 4
hard drives (1 SATA WD 36gig Raptor 10000rpm, 2 Seagate SATA 160's with
8megcache, 1 WD 200gig JB 8meg cache), a 8x DVD writer, Enermax 470
Noisetaker PS, ATI Radeon 9800 XT and 2 sticks of Kingston HyperX 512's. I
use a Nexus rheobus to control 2 120mm fans mounted with rubber mounts.
All I hear is a very faint hum at 2.5 feet away. Beyond that, it is
practically silent.
On my other rig running a Gigabyte 8KNXP, I have the 7000-alcu on a 3.0GHz
P4. Same gear and mounted inside an Antec Sonata. Thermal interface is
Arctic Silver III. Temps are 37c idle and 50C full load. Silent as well
beyond the very faint hum at 2.5 feet.
Hope that helps in your decision.
Boot
2
2003 pictures
I have looking at these check this links
http://www.directron.com/waterkits1.html
and
http://www.directron.com/watercool.html
http://www.directron.com/waterkits1.html
and
http://www.directron.com/watercool.html
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Stephen
Thanks Boot,
Yes, it did...I ran out and bought a Zalman 7000-CU and connected it
directly to my motherboard.
Several apps will control that fan port, but it's hardly worth slowing down
because it's so quiet!!
Thanks for your info especially about the metal plate, I didn't know it was
there. I only noticed the screw holes, seems like the Asus is designed with
the Zalman in mind... But then, it is an overclockers dream!
BTW, I am also getting about 35C idle and 49 hammered with a 31C board.
I am sure it'll get better when the Arctic Silver settles in.
Thanks again!
Steve
Yes, it did...I ran out and bought a Zalman 7000-CU and connected it
directly to my motherboard.
Several apps will control that fan port, but it's hardly worth slowing down
because it's so quiet!!
Thanks for your info especially about the metal plate, I didn't know it was
there. I only noticed the screw holes, seems like the Asus is designed with
the Zalman in mind... But then, it is an overclockers dream!
BTW, I am also getting about 35C idle and 49 hammered with a 31C board.
I am sure it'll get better when the Arctic Silver settles in.
Thanks again!
Steve
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