Problem viewing folder and files over tcp/netbui

R

reader

[Cross post alert: This was posted on
microsoft.public.windowsxp.perform_maintain too. It seems like a bit
of a thorny problem so looking for wide spread input.]

Summary:

One machine on home lan cannot be seen in Network Places. It
cannot be browsed by remote machines below a seemingly arbitrary
level. The problem machine can browse as expected remotely. All
windows desktops are running winxp Pro sp/2. If given unc address
(\\mach\share\dir\subdir), even the problem machine cannot
browse itself in some (apparently arbitrary) directories.
Problem machine is an Athlon64 +3400 2.2Ghz 1.5Gb ram

Details:

I hope someone here can give me a start on correcting this
NetworkPlaces problem.

I've discussed this at length on
microsoft.public.windowsxp.network_web. Under:

Subject: Home lan puzzler

(and today posted this same message on
microsoft.public.windowsxp.perform_maintain)

The discussion finally reached a sort of dead end. I've gone into the
browser setup (network browser) at some length and can't seem to find
the trouble.

But rather than trying to list everything thats been tried let me just
discribe the problem and start at the beginning again.

My setup:
5 home computers on a home network. All with ethernet plugged into a
dsl modem (Netgear FVS318)

3 desktops all running winxp pro sp/2
1 desktop running Linux (gentoo)
1 laptop running winxp home edition

With the exception of one problem machine all can communicate, browse
files etc. Even the problem machine can browse and view remotely.

However, The problem machine (here will be Mach1) never appears in any
of the other machines Network Places. Not even in its own Network
places. But has full access to remote machines thru network places.

For simplicity I'll leave out the Linux box completely (however it is
running samba and can communicate browse etc with all Machines include
Mach1, the linux machine is seen as a master browser by the others).

I can type an unc style address (\\mach\share\path\) into any of the
other (win) machines file explorer and get to the disks on Mach1 and
to most of the subdirectories and files. However at some seemingly
arbitray depth I cannot view some files in directories. Here is an
example.

\\mach1\share\subdir\file1 file2 file3 But file4 and file5 do not
show.

All the files have the same permission set at top level (disk level)
to make all subdir and files have same permissions.

The files in question when viewed from mach1 and under the
properties/security tab show that my user has full control. And that
this full control is inherited from Disk level.

So there doesn't seem to be any tricky permission issues involved.
Still its really a pain not to be able to see arbitrary files when you
need to access them from another machine.

I performed a little experiment just now like this:

On mach1, instead of accessing drive G and subdir in the normal way
with file explorer. I typed in the unc style address

\\mach1\mach1-g\photoshop.wk\Bobbie.wk\

And those same files that are not viewable from a remote machine are
not viewable even on the same machine when using network addressing.

I can make shortcuts in network places to anything I want but I'd have
to make one to dozens even hundreds of exact locations to see what I
need to see. And of course none of that is supposed to be necessary.

A few more words about mach1 history:
The OS is on an Athlon64 +3200 2.2Ghz 1.5GB ram
Asus KV8 mobo.

It began life as a winxp pro pre sp/2 disk install.
Has since been updated to sp/2.

I have conducted a repair install from Microsoft winxp pro disc
that has sp/2 natively, trying to get something better to happen.

I see no differnce in this browsing problem.
 
G

Guest

Check if this helps:

http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=320138
--
Jonybrv


[Cross post alert: This was posted on
microsoft.public.windowsxp.perform_maintain too. It seems like a bit
of a thorny problem so looking for wide spread input.]

Summary:

One machine on home lan cannot be seen in Network Places. It
cannot be browsed by remote machines below a seemingly arbitrary
level. The problem machine can browse as expected remotely. All
windows desktops are running winxp Pro sp/2. If given unc address
(\\mach\share\dir\subdir), even the problem machine cannot
browse itself in some (apparently arbitrary) directories.
Problem machine is an Athlon64 +3400 2.2Ghz 1.5Gb ram

Details:

I hope someone here can give me a start on correcting this
NetworkPlaces problem.

I've discussed this at length on
microsoft.public.windowsxp.network_web. Under:

Subject: Home lan puzzler

(and today posted this same message on
microsoft.public.windowsxp.perform_maintain)

The discussion finally reached a sort of dead end. I've gone into the
browser setup (network browser) at some length and can't seem to find
the trouble.

But rather than trying to list everything thats been tried let me just
discribe the problem and start at the beginning again.

My setup:
5 home computers on a home network. All with ethernet plugged into a
dsl modem (Netgear FVS318)

3 desktops all running winxp pro sp/2
1 desktop running Linux (gentoo)
1 laptop running winxp home edition

With the exception of one problem machine all can communicate, browse
files etc. Even the problem machine can browse and view remotely.

However, The problem machine (here will be Mach1) never appears in any
of the other machines Network Places. Not even in its own Network
places. But has full access to remote machines thru network places.

For simplicity I'll leave out the Linux box completely (however it is
running samba and can communicate browse etc with all Machines include
Mach1, the linux machine is seen as a master browser by the others).

I can type an unc style address (\\mach\share\path\) into any of the
other (win) machines file explorer and get to the disks on Mach1 and
to most of the subdirectories and files. However at some seemingly
arbitray depth I cannot view some files in directories. Here is an
example.

\\mach1\share\subdir\file1 file2 file3 But file4 and file5 do not
show.

All the files have the same permission set at top level (disk level)
to make all subdir and files have same permissions.

The files in question when viewed from mach1 and under the
properties/security tab show that my user has full control. And that
this full control is inherited from Disk level.

So there doesn't seem to be any tricky permission issues involved.
Still its really a pain not to be able to see arbitrary files when you
need to access them from another machine.

I performed a little experiment just now like this:

On mach1, instead of accessing drive G and subdir in the normal way
with file explorer. I typed in the unc style address

\\mach1\mach1-g\photoshop.wk\Bobbie.wk\

And those same files that are not viewable from a remote machine are
not viewable even on the same machine when using network addressing.

I can make shortcuts in network places to anything I want but I'd have
to make one to dozens even hundreds of exact locations to see what I
need to see. And of course none of that is supposed to be necessary.

A few more words about mach1 history:
The OS is on an Athlon64 +3200 2.2Ghz 1.5GB ram
Asus KV8 mobo.

It began life as a winxp pro pre sp/2 disk install.
Has since been updated to sp/2.

I have conducted a repair install from Microsoft winxp pro disc
that has sp/2 natively, trying to get something better to happen.

I see no differnce in this browsing problem.
 
D

DL

I think you mean Multi Post alert, not good


[Cross post alert: This was posted on
microsoft.public.windowsxp.perform_maintain too. It seems like a bit
of a thorny problem so looking for wide spread input.]

Summary:

One machine on home lan cannot be seen in Network Places. It
cannot be browsed by remote machines below a seemingly arbitrary
level. The problem machine can browse as expected remotely. All
windows desktops are running winxp Pro sp/2. If given unc address
(\\mach\share\dir\subdir), even the problem machine cannot
browse itself in some (apparently arbitrary) directories.
Problem machine is an Athlon64 +3400 2.2Ghz 1.5Gb ram

Details:

I hope someone here can give me a start on correcting this
NetworkPlaces problem.

I've discussed this at length on
microsoft.public.windowsxp.network_web. Under:

Subject: Home lan puzzler

(and today posted this same message on
microsoft.public.windowsxp.perform_maintain)

The discussion finally reached a sort of dead end. I've gone into the
browser setup (network browser) at some length and can't seem to find
the trouble.

But rather than trying to list everything thats been tried let me just
discribe the problem and start at the beginning again.

My setup:
5 home computers on a home network. All with ethernet plugged into a
dsl modem (Netgear FVS318)

3 desktops all running winxp pro sp/2
1 desktop running Linux (gentoo)
1 laptop running winxp home edition

With the exception of one problem machine all can communicate, browse
files etc. Even the problem machine can browse and view remotely.

However, The problem machine (here will be Mach1) never appears in any
of the other machines Network Places. Not even in its own Network
places. But has full access to remote machines thru network places.

For simplicity I'll leave out the Linux box completely (however it is
running samba and can communicate browse etc with all Machines include
Mach1, the linux machine is seen as a master browser by the others).

I can type an unc style address (\\mach\share\path\) into any of the
other (win) machines file explorer and get to the disks on Mach1 and
to most of the subdirectories and files. However at some seemingly
arbitray depth I cannot view some files in directories. Here is an
example.

\\mach1\share\subdir\file1 file2 file3 But file4 and file5 do not
show.

All the files have the same permission set at top level (disk level)
to make all subdir and files have same permissions.

The files in question when viewed from mach1 and under the
properties/security tab show that my user has full control. And that
this full control is inherited from Disk level.

So there doesn't seem to be any tricky permission issues involved.
Still its really a pain not to be able to see arbitrary files when you
need to access them from another machine.

I performed a little experiment just now like this:

On mach1, instead of accessing drive G and subdir in the normal way
with file explorer. I typed in the unc style address

\\mach1\mach1-g\photoshop.wk\Bobbie.wk\

And those same files that are not viewable from a remote machine are
not viewable even on the same machine when using network addressing.

I can make shortcuts in network places to anything I want but I'd have
to make one to dozens even hundreds of exact locations to see what I
need to see. And of course none of that is supposed to be necessary.

A few more words about mach1 history:
The OS is on an Athlon64 +3200 2.2Ghz 1.5GB ram
Asus KV8 mobo.

It began life as a winxp pro pre sp/2 disk install.
Has since been updated to sp/2.

I have conducted a repair install from Microsoft winxp pro disc
that has sp/2 natively, trying to get something better to happen.

I see no differnce in this browsing problem.
 
S

Steve N.

[Cross post alert: This was posted on
microsoft.public.windowsxp.perform_maintain too. It seems like a bit
of a thorny problem so looking for wide spread input.]

Wrong:

http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm

Bad.

But rather than trying to list everything thats been tried let me just
discribe the problem and start at the beginning again.

Even worse. Tell what has been suggested in other groups and what you've
tried. Why should the rest of us jump through flaming hoops for you again?

<snip>

Steve
 
R

reader

Steve N. said:
[Cross post alert: This was posted on
microsoft.public.windowsxp.perform_maintain too. It seems like a bit
of a thorny problem so looking for wide spread input.]

Wrong:

http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm

Bad.

<snip>

To end any baloney about cross or multiple... understand that this
came as a second thought. In otherwords a message had been on a
server a while before it dawned on me I'd likely need more widespread
input.

Further you could count the times I've done either on one hand so ease
up a little. I felt the thornyness of the problem warranted my little
faux paux as regards netiquette.
Even worse. Tell what has been suggested in other groups and what you've
tried. Why should the rest of us jump through flaming hoops for you again?
<snip>

Steve you need to quit posting these nothing things. It isn't
helpfull and it isn't instructive or even anything less than very
boring. Knock it off.

I did leave the necessary info to find the thread for any instrested
party,

If you don't know how or won't say just remain mum please.
 
R

reader

Jonybrv said:
Check if this helps:

Thanks for the tip. I'm guessing you meant to turn on the auto scan
not to turn it off... right.
At any rate when I looked there it was turned off so now it is turned
I'm giving it a reboot as well to see any results.
 
G

Guest

That option should be turned off to make sure multiple copies of the network
places shortcut is not created.

Compare the network settings and software loaded at the startup to see if
you find any offending item. (antivirus softwares, pop up blockers)_
 
S

Steve N.

(e-mail address removed) wrote:

[Cross post alert: This was posted on
microsoft.public.windowsxp.perform_maintain too. It seems like a bit
of a thorny problem so looking for wide spread input.]

Wrong:

http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm

Bad.

<snip>


To end any baloney about cross or multiple... understand that this
came as a second thought.

It's not baloney, it's the truth.
In otherwords a message had been on a
server a while before it dawned on me I'd likely need more widespread
input.

Further you could count the times I've done either on one hand so ease
up a little. I felt the thornyness of the problem warranted my little
faux paux as regards netiquette.

It's not about "netiquette", it's about getting help here as efficiently
as possible.
Steve you need to quit posting these nothing things. It isn't
helpfull and it isn't instructive or even anything less than very
boring. Knock it off.

Heheh. I'll bite my tongue... this time.
I did leave the necessary info to find the thread for any instrested
party,

Why should any of us search for it? You have the information. Post it. Here.
If you don't know how or won't say just remain mum please.

I might know or I might not know, but I'm not going searching other
groups I don't subscribe to or have an interest in reading and it's not
likely others here will either. If you want help here, in THIS newsgroup
then post the relevant information - HERE. Why should any of us go
through the same suggestions that may have been posted elsewhere?

I'm sorry that I obviously offended you, but I'm really just trying to
help you get the help you seek here.

Steve
 
P

Peter Foldes

Problem machine being? Home or Pro. You did state that the penguin samba is fine. So which one is the one reaching Mach 1

--
Peter

Please Reply to Newsgroup for the benefit of others
Requests for assistance by email can not and will not be acknowledged.

[Cross post alert: This was posted on
microsoft.public.windowsxp.perform_maintain too. It seems like a bit
of a thorny problem so looking for wide spread input.]

Summary:

One machine on home lan cannot be seen in Network Places. It
cannot be browsed by remote machines below a seemingly arbitrary
level. The problem machine can browse as expected remotely. All
windows desktops are running winxp Pro sp/2. If given unc address
(\\mach\share\dir\subdir), even the problem machine cannot
browse itself in some (apparently arbitrary) directories.
Problem machine is an Athlon64 +3400 2.2Ghz 1.5Gb ram

Details:

I hope someone here can give me a start on correcting this
NetworkPlaces problem.

I've discussed this at length on
microsoft.public.windowsxp.network_web. Under:

Subject: Home lan puzzler

(and today posted this same message on
microsoft.public.windowsxp.perform_maintain)

The discussion finally reached a sort of dead end. I've gone into the
browser setup (network browser) at some length and can't seem to find
the trouble.

But rather than trying to list everything thats been tried let me just
discribe the problem and start at the beginning again.

My setup:
5 home computers on a home network. All with ethernet plugged into a
dsl modem (Netgear FVS318)

3 desktops all running winxp pro sp/2
1 desktop running Linux (gentoo)
1 laptop running winxp home edition

With the exception of one problem machine all can communicate, browse
files etc. Even the problem machine can browse and view remotely.

However, The problem machine (here will be Mach1) never appears in any
of the other machines Network Places. Not even in its own Network
places. But has full access to remote machines thru network places.

For simplicity I'll leave out the Linux box completely (however it is
running samba and can communicate browse etc with all Machines include
Mach1, the linux machine is seen as a master browser by the others).

I can type an unc style address (\\mach\share\path\) into any of the
other (win) machines file explorer and get to the disks on Mach1 and
to most of the subdirectories and files. However at some seemingly
arbitray depth I cannot view some files in directories. Here is an
example.

\\mach1\share\subdir\file1 file2 file3 But file4 and file5 do not
show.

All the files have the same permission set at top level (disk level)
to make all subdir and files have same permissions.

The files in question when viewed from mach1 and under the
properties/security tab show that my user has full control. And that
this full control is inherited from Disk level.

So there doesn't seem to be any tricky permission issues involved.
Still its really a pain not to be able to see arbitrary files when you
need to access them from another machine.

I performed a little experiment just now like this:

On mach1, instead of accessing drive G and subdir in the normal way
with file explorer. I typed in the unc style address

\\mach1\mach1-g\photoshop.wk\Bobbie.wk\

And those same files that are not viewable from a remote machine are
not viewable even on the same machine when using network addressing.

I can make shortcuts in network places to anything I want but I'd have
to make one to dozens even hundreds of exact locations to see what I
need to see. And of course none of that is supposed to be necessary.

A few more words about mach1 history:
The OS is on an Athlon64 +3200 2.2Ghz 1.5GB ram
Asus KV8 mobo.

It began life as a winxp pro pre sp/2 disk install.
Has since been updated to sp/2.

I have conducted a repair install from Microsoft winxp pro disc
that has sp/2 natively, trying to get something better to happen.

I see no differnce in this browsing problem.
 
H

Harry Putnam

Steve N. said:
I might know or I might not know, but I'm not going searching other
groups I don't subscribe to or have an interest in reading and it's not

Steve, I haven't asked you to search anything. All I've really asked
you to do is just go away. You've confirmed my suspicion that you
really prefer wasting time.

By the way I only post this here because like boring twerps do, you've
munged your email.

Now that you've likely destroyed any chance of getting real help about
the problem as presented in some detail, can you now please go away?
It really is easy. Just don't post to this thread.

There may still be some chance that someone who has seen this same
phenomena will post a response.
 
H

Harry Putnam

Peter Foldes said:
Problem machine being? Home or Pro. You did state that the penguin samba is fine. So which one is the one reaching Mach 1

Oh, sorry I didn't make that clear. The one machine running Home ed
is a laptop and not really a big player in the network.

It looks like this:

mach1 win pro
(Problem machine is Mach1)

mach2 win pro
mach3 win pro
mach4 win home (laptop)
mach5 linux (Gentoo)

2-4 do not see mach1 (the problem mach) in their Network Places but
can still browse most of mach1 using Unc style addresses.

So if one were to type \\mach1\share\path\ Into file explorer on 1-4
they would get to that address with no problem.

On the other hand; Mach1 can browse via network Places, any of 2-5,
and sees them all as expected.

What is so puzzling is that when browsing mach1 from 2-4 you can get
to most files but some are invisible. I know they are there but they
cannot be seen thru remote browsing in Network Places.

This happens to seemingly arbitrary folders but I can say I've noticed
none that have this problem at the top level.

That is \\mach1\share\subdir\HERE some files may be invisible although
present. Any such invisible files I've checked seem to have normal
permissions and security settings. That is, Harry is browsing them and
Harry has full control.

At the same time \\mach1\share\subdir <= at this level all files are
visible.

And to make things more difficult it isn't always even the same files
or subdir that are invisible (unbrowseable)

I'm pretty sure its not a permission related problem because I've gone
to the top level like G:\ and in security settings chose the box that
forces the same permissions clear down the tree.

Then I can browse some parts of the tree but not others. I'm having a
heck of a time getting a handle on what is at the root of the problem.

If you think it would help analyze I can post screen shots of what
ever you think will give clues. Permissions/security or what ever.

I'd put them an a webserver I use and post the URL here.
 
H

Harry Putnam

Jonybrv said:
That option should be turned off to make sure multiple copies of the network
places shortcut is not created.

I'm not following you. The auto scan referred to in you posted URL is
something I want to have happen isn't it?
Compare the network settings and software loaded at the startup to see if
you find any offending item. (antivirus softwares, pop up blockers)_

Network setting of all machines running win pro are the same except
for the IP which are all static.

Comparing the stuff loaded at startup is equally similar. Many of the
same programs are installed on each machine. If I were to post all
items involved in startup would you know if any were a likely source
of this problem?
 
S

Steve N.

Harry said:
Steve, I haven't asked you to search anything. All I've really asked
you to do is just go away. You've confirmed my suspicion that you
really prefer wasting time.

By the way I only post this here because like boring twerps do, you've
munged your email.

Now that you've likely destroyed any chance of getting real help about
the problem as presented in some detail, can you now please go away?
It really is easy. Just don't post to this thread.

There may still be some chance that someone who has seen this same
phenomena will post a response.

Fine. I was just trying to help you get help faster here.

Sorry.

Steve
 
G

Guest

Let me explain.

That option needs to be enabled if you want to create a shortcut to network
places automatically whenever you browse a machine on network. However, at
times duplicates could be a problem, this is a reason i wanted to check if
disabling that helps.

I read your recent reply to Peter and see that Mach1 itself experiences
issues browsing certain folder. A repair install at this machine would be the
best thing that I can think of.

However, if you would pefer to try once more resetting the network settings
in Mach1, here are some excellent illustrated steps:

http://www.careyholzman.com/xp/home/xphome-1.htm
 
S

Steve N.

Harry said:
Oh, sorry I didn't make that clear. The one machine running Home ed
is a laptop and not really a big player in the network.

It looks like this:

mach1 win pro
(Problem machine is Mach1)

mach2 win pro
mach3 win pro
mach4 win home (laptop)
mach5 linux (Gentoo)

2-4 do not see mach1 (the problem mach) in their Network Places but
can still browse most of mach1 using Unc style addresses.

So if one were to type \\mach1\share\path\ Into file explorer on 1-4
they would get to that address with no problem.

On the other hand; Mach1 can browse via network Places, any of 2-5,
and sees them all as expected.

What is so puzzling is that when browsing mach1 from 2-4 you can get
to most files but some are invisible. I know they are there but they
cannot be seen thru remote browsing in Network Places.

This happens to seemingly arbitrary folders but I can say I've noticed
none that have this problem at the top level.

That is \\mach1\share\subdir\HERE some files may be invisible although
present. Any such invisible files I've checked seem to have normal
permissions and security settings. That is, Harry is browsing them and
Harry has full control.

At the same time \\mach1\share\subdir <= at this level all files are
visible.

And to make things more difficult it isn't always even the same files
or subdir that are invisible (unbrowseable)

I'm pretty sure its not a permission related problem because I've gone
to the top level like G:\ and in security settings chose the box that
forces the same permissions clear down the tree.

Then I can browse some parts of the tree but not others. I'm having a
heck of a time getting a handle on what is at the root of the problem.

If you think it would help analyze I can post screen shots of what
ever you think will give clues. Permissions/security or what ever.

I'd put them an a webserver I use and post the URL here.

Clearing unused security descriptors using chkdsk /f on the NTFS volume
in question has often solved file/folder permission issues for me.

I've also seen several anomolies under SP2 that effect network browsing.
You might want want to try rolling back to SP1 and then do a repair
install from an SP1 CD on the machine in question. Simply uninstalling
SP2 from Add/Remove Programs has not been sufficient in my experience.
There are SP2 registry remnants that remain even after "properly"
removing SP2 that effect networking.

Steve
 
H

Harry Putnam

Jonybrv said:
Let me explain.

That option needs to be enabled if you want to create a shortcut to network
places automatically whenever you browse a machine on network. However, at
times duplicates could be a problem, this is a reason i wanted to check if
disabling that helps.

I read your recent reply to Peter and see that Mach1 itself experiences
issues browsing certain folder.

You may notice the only folders it has trouble browsing are its own.
That is if one uses UNC style addressing on Mach1 file explorer:

\\mach1\share\subdir\etc
At some level the files are invisible and not browsable.

Mach1 has no trouble browsing anything on 2-5.
. . . . . . . . . . . . A repair install at this machine would be the
best thing that I can think of.

For general info. I have run a repair install on that machine as my
last effort to get the computer browser setup working. I didn't
notice any difference.

[...]

Thanks for the tips and URLs again
 
H

Harry Putnam

[...]

I may still not have clarified enough:

mach2-4 (leaving out the penguin which has no probs)
all can reach mach1. The trouble is that at some depth of file
heirarchy some files and directories become invisible.

Seems to hold true for any remote (remote to mach1) winxp mach on this
lan. All have a problem with mach1 at some level.

However for clarity:

In general at least two levels of heirarchy are viewable by remote
winxp machines, but beneath that depth, folder and files begin to be
invisible to the remote although they are there and seemingly have
same sharing and security settings as visible one.
 
D

David Candy

Are the symptoms the same in File Open dialogs and at a command prompt?

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[Cross post alert: This was posted on
microsoft.public.windowsxp.perform_maintain too. It seems like a bit
of a thorny problem so looking for wide spread input.]

Summary:

One machine on home lan cannot be seen in Network Places. It
cannot be browsed by remote machines below a seemingly arbitrary
level. The problem machine can browse as expected remotely. All
windows desktops are running winxp Pro sp/2. If given unc address
(\\mach\share\dir\subdir), even the problem machine cannot
browse itself in some (apparently arbitrary) directories.
Problem machine is an Athlon64 +3400 2.2Ghz 1.5Gb ram

Details:

I hope someone here can give me a start on correcting this
NetworkPlaces problem.

I've discussed this at length on
microsoft.public.windowsxp.network_web. Under:

Subject: Home lan puzzler

(and today posted this same message on
microsoft.public.windowsxp.perform_maintain)

The discussion finally reached a sort of dead end. I've gone into the
browser setup (network browser) at some length and can't seem to find
the trouble.

But rather than trying to list everything thats been tried let me just
discribe the problem and start at the beginning again.

My setup:
5 home computers on a home network. All with ethernet plugged into a
dsl modem (Netgear FVS318)

3 desktops all running winxp pro sp/2
1 desktop running Linux (gentoo)
1 laptop running winxp home edition

With the exception of one problem machine all can communicate, browse
files etc. Even the problem machine can browse and view remotely.

However, The problem machine (here will be Mach1) never appears in any
of the other machines Network Places. Not even in its own Network
places. But has full access to remote machines thru network places.

For simplicity I'll leave out the Linux box completely (however it is
running samba and can communicate browse etc with all Machines include
Mach1, the linux machine is seen as a master browser by the others).

I can type an unc style address (\\mach\share\path\) into any of the
other (win) machines file explorer and get to the disks on Mach1 and
to most of the subdirectories and files. However at some seemingly
arbitray depth I cannot view some files in directories. Here is an
example.

\\mach1\share\subdir\file1 file2 file3 But file4 and file5 do not
show.

All the files have the same permission set at top level (disk level)
to make all subdir and files have same permissions.

The files in question when viewed from mach1 and under the
properties/security tab show that my user has full control. And that
this full control is inherited from Disk level.

So there doesn't seem to be any tricky permission issues involved.
Still its really a pain not to be able to see arbitrary files when you
need to access them from another machine.

I performed a little experiment just now like this:

On mach1, instead of accessing drive G and subdir in the normal way
with file explorer. I typed in the unc style address

\\mach1\mach1-g\photoshop.wk\Bobbie.wk\

And those same files that are not viewable from a remote machine are
not viewable even on the same machine when using network addressing.

I can make shortcuts in network places to anything I want but I'd have
to make one to dozens even hundreds of exact locations to see what I
need to see. And of course none of that is supposed to be necessary.

A few more words about mach1 history:
The OS is on an Athlon64 +3200 2.2Ghz 1.5GB ram
Asus KV8 mobo.

It began life as a winxp pro pre sp/2 disk install.
Has since been updated to sp/2.

I have conducted a repair install from Microsoft winxp pro disc
that has sp/2 natively, trying to get something better to happen.

I see no differnce in this browsing problem.
 
H

Harry Putnam

David Candy said:
Are the symptoms the same in File Open dialogs and at a command prompt?

I'm running a large scale backup currently so can't really test, but
let me clarify in advance.

You mean file open from an application like notepad right?
If so then yes that does hit the same snag. At the same depth as file
explorer will going to same file.

From command line... I need to test that and will in a few more minutes.
 
H

Harry Putnam

David Candy said:
Are the symptoms the same in File Open dialogs and at a command prompt?

File open from an editor (notetab pro) fails at
NetworkPlaces\\mach\share\subdir\subdir where there are individual
files as well as more directories.

The file explorer fails just above that:
\\mach\share\subdir HERE


From command line, since UNC style is not possible, I created a mapped
drive: I:\ (which is really \\mach1\share\subdir)

Then from cmd prompt:

C:\> I: a `dir' here shows the many subdir at this level

cd subdir (one level deeper)
Here a dir shows all subdir again

cd subdir/ (2levels deeper) nothing shows here from command line.

That is:
I:\subdir\subdir <= Here I see no files although many are present.
 

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