Problem networking 2 XP Pro Computers using MSHOME

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Guest

I have a laptop that is used for work and at home. It is running XP Pro SP2
(previously it had XP Home)

At Home I have a wireless 802.11 network using Dell Truemobile wireless cards.

HOME:
I have a Dell 8200 running XP Pro (Previously it had Windows ME) and two
laptops Dell running 98 and a Viao with XP Pro.

Before my work laptop had XP PRO, It would log on at home on the MSHOME
network and I could see the Dell 8200 files and printers and connect to the
other 2 laptops.

When I installed XP PRO, I could still log on to the Viao but not the Dell
8200 running Win ME. I installed XP Pro on the Dell 8200 and still cannot log
on to it.

The Work Laptop is a member of a MS Windows Network called Sparta-Hsv and
the other computers are members of a network called MSHOME.

When I am on the Dell 8200, I can log on to the Work Laptop by going into
the Sparta-Hsv Network. But when the Work Laptop tries to log on to the Dell
8200 thru the MSHOME network it gets prompted for a username and password.

I tried creating a username and password the same as my logon on my work
computer but no luck. I also tried enabling the Guest account and logging in
as a guest, but no luck.

The Work Laptop can log onto and print using the Viao which is also running
XP Pro (but I don't think it has SP2).

The work laptop has similar problems with the 98 laptop.

The Dell 8200 seems to be able to see and login to the other 3 that are a
part of the MSHOME network.

Do I just need to make the Work Laptop part of the MSHOME network? Can it be
part of Sparta-Hsv (Required for work) and part of MSHOME?
 
C

Chuck

On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 21:49:02 -0800, Ted Thompson <Ted
I have a laptop that is used for work and at home. It is running XP Pro SP2
(previously it had XP Home)

At Home I have a wireless 802.11 network using Dell Truemobile wireless cards.

HOME:
I have a Dell 8200 running XP Pro (Previously it had Windows ME) and two
laptops Dell running 98 and a Viao with XP Pro.

Before my work laptop had XP PRO, It would log on at home on the MSHOME
network and I could see the Dell 8200 files and printers and connect to the
other 2 laptops.

When I installed XP PRO, I could still log on to the Viao but not the Dell
8200 running Win ME. I installed XP Pro on the Dell 8200 and still cannot log
on to it.

The Work Laptop is a member of a MS Windows Network called Sparta-Hsv and
the other computers are members of a network called MSHOME.

When I am on the Dell 8200, I can log on to the Work Laptop by going into
the Sparta-Hsv Network. But when the Work Laptop tries to log on to the Dell
8200 thru the MSHOME network it gets prompted for a username and password.

I tried creating a username and password the same as my logon on my work
computer but no luck. I also tried enabling the Guest account and logging in
as a guest, but no luck.

The Work Laptop can log onto and print using the Viao which is also running
XP Pro (but I don't think it has SP2).

The work laptop has similar problems with the 98 laptop.

The Dell 8200 seems to be able to see and login to the other 3 that are a
part of the MSHOME network.

Do I just need to make the Work Laptop part of the MSHOME network? Can it be
part of Sparta-Hsv (Required for work) and part of MSHOME?

Ted,

Do any of the computers have a software firewall (WF, or third party)? If so,
you need to configure them for file sharing. Firewall configurations are a very
common cause of (network) browser, and file sharing, problems.

On any XP Pro computer, check to see if Simple File Sharing (Control Panel -
Folder Options - View - Advanced settings) is enabled or disabled. With XP Pro,
you need to have SFS consistently set on each computer.

On XP Pro with SFS disabled, check the Local Security Policies (Control Panel -
Administrative Tools). Under Local Policies - Security Options, look at
"Network access: Sharing and security model", and ensure it's set to "Classic -
local users authenticate as themselves".

On XP Pro with SFS disabled, if you set the above Local Security Policy to
"Guest only", enable the Guest account, using Start - Run - "cmd" - type "net
user guest /active:yes" in the command window. If "Classic", setup and use a
common non-Guest account on all computers. Whichever account is used, give it
an identical, non-blank password on all computers.

On XP Pro with Simple File Sharing enabled, make sure that the Guest account is
enabled, on each computer. Enable Guest, with Start - Run - "cmd", then type
"net user guest /active:yes" in the command window. Ensure that the password
for Guest is blank, with Start - Run - "control userpasswords2"; select Guest,
click Reset Password, click OK without entering a new password.

On XP Pro, if you're going to use Guest authentication, check your Local
Security Policy (Control Panel - Administrative Tools) - User Rights Assignment,
on the XP Pro computer, and look at "Deny access to this computer from the
network". Make sure Guest is not in the list. Look at "Access this computer
from the network", and make sure that Everyone is in this list.

--
Cheers,
Chuck
Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a bad thing.
My email is AT DOT
actual address pchuck sonic net.
 
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Guest

Thanks Chuck!!!

The last paragraph did it. I was using Simple File Sharing, but for some
reason the guest account was being blocked.

Still not sure ow to get the other accounts to log in automatically. Seems
that should work if they have the same name and password, but it may be that
I am part of another domain on my work computer.

Anyway, Thanks I was able to connect to the other computer as a Guest with
no password.
 
G

Guest

Ted Thompson said:
I have a laptop that is used for work and at home. It is running XP Pro SP2
(previously it had XP Home)

At Home I have a wireless 802.11 network using Dell Truemobile wireless cards.

HOME:
I have a Dell 8200 running XP Pro (Previously it had Windows ME) and two
laptops Dell running 98 and a Viao with XP Pro.

Before my work laptop had XP PRO, It would log on at home on the MSHOME
network and I could see the Dell 8200 files and printers and connect to the
other 2 laptops.

When I installed XP PRO, I could still log on to the Viao but not the Dell
8200 running Win ME. I installed XP Pro on the Dell 8200 and still cannot log
on to it.

The Work Laptop is a member of a MS Windows Network called Sparta-Hsv and
the other computers are members of a network called MSHOME.

When I am on the Dell 8200, I can log on to the Work Laptop by going into
the Sparta-Hsv Network. But when the Work Laptop tries to log on to the Dell
8200 thru the MSHOME network it gets prompted for a username and password.

I tried creating a username and password the same as my logon on my work
computer but no luck. I also tried enabling the Guest account and logging in
as a guest, but no luck.

The Work Laptop can log onto and print using the Viao which is also running
XP Pro (but I don't think it has SP2).

The work laptop has similar problems with the 98 laptop.

The Dell 8200 seems to be able to see and login to the other 3 that are a
part of the MSHOME network.

Do I just need to make the Work Laptop part of the MSHOME network? Can it be
part of Sparta-Hsv (Required for work) and part of MSHOME?
 
G

Guest

ted_thompson61 said:
Thanks Chuck!!!

The last paragraph did it. I was using Simple File Sharing, but for some
reason the guest account was being blocked.

Still not sure ow to get the other accounts to log in automatically. Seems
that should work if they have the same name and password, but it may be that
I am part of another domain on my work computer.

Anyway, Thanks I was able to connect to the other computer as a Guest with
no password.
 
G

Guest

ted_thompson61 said:
Thanks Chuck!!!

The last paragraph did it. I was using Simple File Sharing, but for some
reason the guest account was being blocked.

Still not sure ow to get the other accounts to log in automatically. Seems
that should work if they have the same name and password, but it may be that
I am part of another domain on my work computer.

Anyway, Thanks I was able to connect to the other computer as a Guest with
no password.
 
C

Chuck

Thanks Chuck!!!

The last paragraph did it. I was using Simple File Sharing, but for some
reason the guest account was being blocked.

Still not sure ow to get the other accounts to log in automatically. Seems
that should work if they have the same name and password, but it may be that
I am part of another domain on my work computer.

Anyway, Thanks I was able to connect to the other computer as a Guest with
no password.

Alright, Ted! That's a good start.

As far as getting non-Guest sharing working, you just have to take it one step
at a time. My guess is to recheck the Local Security Policy.

There are so many ways to fsck up file sharing under Windows XP. It's almost as
bad as buying an American manufactured car - and choosing optional equipment -
used to be in the latter part of last century.

Thanks for updating us.

--
Cheers,
Chuck
Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a bad thing.
My email is AT DOT
actual address pchuck sonic net.
 
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Guest

Chuck! You saved the day with your last paragraph. Although I don't use
Guest authentication it must matter when I tried accessing my XP Pro laptop
from my XP MCE desktop because removing Guest from the Deny list I finally
got the two machines talking to each other both ways. Thank you again a
million times.
 

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