PPT 2000 >>> 2003 Problems

[Doug]

Using PPT 2003 SP2

Trying to move my PPT 2000 presentations (using standard PPT options, no
add-ins, or anything extra) into PPT 2003

The new version 2003 kills many of the transition, animations, timing, etc.
from the original version 2000. In many cases I am unable to even duplicate
simple things. Many slides will not go to the next without two mouse clicks.
Is there any fix beyond redoing all my old presentations which represent
thousands of hours of work? I am desperate.

TIA

Doug

 

[Austin Myers]

Have you installed all the Office 2003 updates? If not, start there.


Austin Myers
MS PowerPoint MVP Team

PowerPoint Video and PowerPoint Sound Solutions www.pfcmedia.com

 

[Echo S]

Open PPT 2003 and go to Tools|Options|Edit. Put a check next to "disable new
animations." This will also disable the new transitions and effectively put
you back to "PPT 2000 mode."

 

[Doug]

Yes, fully updated

Have you installed all the Office 2003 updates? If not, start there.


Austin Myers
MS PowerPoint MVP Team

PowerPoint Video and PowerPoint Sound Solutions www.pfcmedia.com

 

[Doug]

Will it work on any computer using PPT 2003 without doing that? This
presentation needs to be portable as it will be used by nunerous persons.

Open PPT 2003 and go to Tools|Options|Edit. Put a check next to "disable
new animations." This will also disable the new transitions and
effectively put you back to "PPT 2000 mode."

--
Echo [MS PPT MVP] http://www.echosvoice.com
Fixing PowerPoint Annoyances
http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/powerpointannoy/
How to Prevent PowerPoint Overload (March 23 webcast)
http://tinyurl.com/bp2h8

Using PPT 2003 SP2

Trying to move my PPT 2000 presentations (using standard PPT options, no
add-ins, or anything extra) into PPT 2003

The new version 2003 kills many of the transition, animations, timing,
etc. from the original version 2000. In many cases I am unable to even
duplicate simple things. Many slides will not go to the next without two
mouse clicks. Is there any fix beyond redoing all my old presentations
which represent thousands of hours of work? I am desperate.

TIA

Doug

 

[Doug]

Unfortunately, that doesn't seem to make any difference. :-(((((

Open PPT 2003 and go to Tools|Options|Edit. Put a check next to "disable
new animations." This will also disable the new transitions and
effectively put you back to "PPT 2000 mode."

--
Echo [MS PPT MVP] http://www.echosvoice.com
Fixing PowerPoint Annoyances
http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/powerpointannoy/
How to Prevent PowerPoint Overload (March 23 webcast)
http://tinyurl.com/bp2h8

Using PPT 2003 SP2

Trying to move my PPT 2000 presentations (using standard PPT options, no
add-ins, or anything extra) into PPT 2003

The new version 2003 kills many of the transition, animations, timing,
etc. from the original version 2000. In many cases I am unable to even
duplicate simple things. Many slides will not go to the next without two
mouse clicks. Is there any fix beyond redoing all my old presentations
which represent thousands of hours of work? I am desperate.

TIA

Doug

 

[Echo S]

No, you'd have to do it on each machine. The animations and transitions are
different in PPT 2002 and 2003 than they are in 97 and 2000. Your other
option would be to play the files on the PPT 97 Viewer, which uses the same
animations/transitions as PPT 97 and 2000.

--
Echo [MS PPT MVP] http://www.echosvoice.com
Fixing PowerPoint Annoyances http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/powerpointannoy/
How to Prevent PowerPoint Overload (March 23 webcast)
http://tinyurl.com/bp2h8

Will it work on any computer using PPT 2003 without doing that? This
presentation needs to be portable as it will be used by nunerous persons.

Open PPT 2003 and go to Tools|Options|Edit. Put a check next to "disable
new animations." This will also disable the new transitions and
effectively put you back to "PPT 2000 mode."

--
Echo [MS PPT MVP] http://www.echosvoice.com
Fixing PowerPoint Annoyances
http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/powerpointannoy/
How to Prevent PowerPoint Overload (March 23 webcast)
http://tinyurl.com/bp2h8

Using PPT 2003 SP2

Trying to move my PPT 2000 presentations (using standard PPT options, no
add-ins, or anything extra) into PPT 2003

The new version 2003 kills many of the transition, animations, timing,
etc. from the original version 2000. In many cases I am unable to even
duplicate simple things. Many slides will not go to the next without two
mouse clicks. Is there any fix beyond redoing all my old presentations
which represent thousands of hours of work? I am desperate.

TIA

Doug

 

[Echo S]

Unfortunately, that doesn't seem to make any difference. :-(((((

That's really surprising. Something else must be going on here.

 

[Steve Rindsberg]

Open PPT 2003 and go to Tools|Options|Edit. Put a check next to "disable new
animations." This will also disable the new transitions and effectively put
you back to "PPT 2000 mode."

As I understood it, this prevents you from using PPT 2003's new features that
won't be compatible with 2000.

This is the first time I've seen a suggestion that it'll make 2003 behave like
2000 when handling features from 2000 that've changed in 2003.

Have I been napping again?

 

[Doug]

Steve,

The bad news is, in this case, it doesn't seem to even behave like PPT 2000.
:-(( <sigh>

I'd be happy to email someone a part of the file that's problematic, if it'd
help diagnose the problem.

TIA

Doug

 

[Echo S]

As I understood it, this prevents you from using PPT 2003's new features
that
won't be compatible with 2000.

This is the first time I've seen a suggestion that it'll make 2003 behave
like
2000 when handling features from 2000 that've changed in 2003.

Have I been napping again?

Probably I am.

 

[Steve Rindsberg]

Steve,

The bad news is, in this case, it doesn't seem to even behave like PPT 2000.
:-(( <sigh>

Here's the deal as I understand it: making that setting disables features in
PPT2003 so that you can't inadvertently use them and create presentations
that'll give PPT2000 trouble.

It won't make 2003 *act* like 2000 so where there are differences in the way
the two interpret timing, they'll still remain.

 

[Doug]

Steve,

OK, that at least explains why there's no difference. Now, back to the
problem at hand, any suggestions?

This is a 4 month old Dell qith fully updated Windwoes XP Home Editon (does
it on my new Panasonic laptop with Pro editon as well), Latests updated
Office Pro, etc.

The original presentation was initally created way back in, I think, PPT 97,
maybe 95 (and as I recall, you did some 35mm slides from the original one)
and has been updated and expanded in PPT 2000.

The following problems, at least, seem to occur.

It does not present bulleted items one at a time, they all present as one OR
they present one after another so quickly it almost might as well present as
one. No rhyme or reason I can see why one does one and another does the
other. They were originally set to appear at 3-5 second inetrvals,
depending upon slide and Group Text: By 1st Level Paragraphs. Moreover, in
the original they presented with Red bullets that turned the same yellow as
the rest of the text as it progressed through the bulletted items, one at a
time. Transition between slides is Dissolve Fast on original.

When I have tried to fix it, I end up with a situation where I have to click
twice to get the slide to advance, once to turn the last slide bullet
yellow, next to advance the slide. Later: Just realized that in PPT 2003 I
can make that specific bulleted item not change to yellow and it'll advance
with one click. I'll leave this just in case anyone else reading this runs
into that problem.

If I inadvertantly click in a slide or want to move it along quicker it
won't just present the next bulleted item (as in PPT 2000), it presentes the
entire rest of the slide ready to click for the next slide. This is very
disruptive to the presenter and viewers.

Hope this makes it clearer, or maybe just clear as mud. <shrug> <sigh>

TIA

Doug

 

[Steve Rindsberg]

The original presentation was initally created way back in, I think, PPT 97,

maybe 95 (and as I recall, you did some 35mm slides from the original one)

AHA! It's the dinosaur dust that's clogging up the works! ,-)
I haven't a clue what's going on here; not a problem with your description,
but it's been a long week and my brain's fried. I'd be happy to have a look at
the presentation though. Knock it down to a few slides that illustrate the
problem and shoot it along to steve at-sign pptools dot com

 

[Doug]

<sigh> Figures. G*d forbid you stick with the same program through
multiple iterations...

Thanks! On its way...

 

[Steve Rindsberg]

<sigh> Figures. G*d forbid you stick with the same program through
multiple iterations...

Thanks! On its way...

OK, here's what I have that at least partially confirms what Doug's seeing:

I'm not getting the intermittent "all as one or one after another so quickly as
makes no difference" behavior.

I am seeing the other things:

A normal text build and fade adds another step at the end ... IOW, to get
through three lines of text and move on to the next slide, you need an extra
click after the last line of text has appeared. PPT 2003 wants you to dim the
thing before it'll move on to the next slide. That's just silly.

As Doug discovered, you can get around this by changing the animation settings
to NOT dim the last line. But why should you have to?

And a single click during a timed build reveals ALL of the text points, not
just the next one up.

Both behaviors are different from PPT 2000, both occur when creating a new
pressie from scratch, not just on a presentation that's been moved forward to
the new version from an older version as in Doug's case.

I've prodded at it enough to know that I don't like it but maybe one of our
animation wizards can give it a try? Thanks!

I've posted a little 80kb PPT that demos this at:

http://www.rdpslides.com/test/SimpleTextAnimation.ppt

 

[Doug]

Well, at least I know know I am not totally nuts. Thanks much, Steve.

Hope someone here can help.

Doug

 

[Doug]

Anybody home? Nobody have any ideas or comments?