Power Cable Sequence

[The Toyman]

Not sure I'm in the right place, but . . . If I should be posting this
somewhere else, maybe someone could tell me where to go (nicely).

I'm trying to install a new hard drive as the master boot drive and keep the
old one as slave. The old setup ran the data cable from the M'board to the
HD to the CD drive. Bought a new cable with the extra connector, but am
unsure about the plug-in order. Since the master and slave function are
controlled by the jumpers, does it make any difference where the CD plugs
in?

Right now one end of the cable plugs in to the old HD (Western Dig. EIDE) to
the M'board (connector colored coded blue), to the CD drive, then terminates
in the new HD (Seagate Ultra ATA/100). The M'board connector is in the
middle.

Initially had some problems recognizing the new drive with the master-slave
set up, so rejumpered as new HD=master, and old HD=Single (only HD in the
box). For whatever reason, both drives are now recognized and are
accessible- the new drive is the Primary master, and the old drive is a
Secondary master. Not sure what's going on there - yet. Hope to get that
fixed later.

Since I'm trying to get this thing running for a friend who has lost his XP
O/S disk, I'm a bit reluctant to make 'in-the-dark' changes that may force a
purchase of another O/S disk.

Any thoughts?

Toyman

 

[Jonny]

I read one paragraph, which is enough.

ATA standard: master goes on the end, and the slave goes in the middle, the
longer end (blue end for 80 wire versions) goes to the mobo/ide controller
card. Whether CS or master or slave jumpers are used is not material.

Has absolutely nothing to do with any MS software or hardware product,
including XP.
.............
Jonny

 

[Patti MacLeod]

Hi The Toyman,

A more appropriate newsgroup for your question might be:
microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware

Perhaps it's just me, but the description of your current "set up" sounds a
little odd. From your description, you would have an IDE cable with four
connectors. I'm not sure that there is such a beast <g>

Anyhow, with one IDE cable, normally one end connector would plug into the
IDE controller on the motherboard, the other end connector would plug into
the Master drive, and the middle connector would plug into the Slave drive.



Regards,

 

[Andy]

Not sure I'm in the right place, but . . . If I should be posting this
somewhere else, maybe someone could tell me where to go (nicely).

I'm trying to install a new hard drive as the master boot drive and keep the
old one as slave. The old setup ran the data cable from the M'board to the
HD to the CD drive. Bought a new cable with the extra connector, but am
unsure about the plug-in order. Since the master and slave function are
controlled by the jumpers, does it make any difference where the CD plugs
in?

Right now one end of the cable plugs in to the old HD (Western Dig. EIDE) to
the M'board (connector colored coded blue), to the CD drive, then terminates
in the new HD (Seagate Ultra ATA/100). The M'board connector is in the
middle.

Sounds like you're trying to connect three devices to one motherboard
IDE connector. It's not allowed and won't work.

 

[Mike Hall \(MS-MVP\)]

Toyman

Use the IDE cable with one blue end, the other being black on IDE 0 (primary
IDE).. the blue end goes to the motherboard, the black end to the master
drive.. the grey connector (middle) goes to the slave drive, so mount the
drives to facilitate easy cabling..

Use your old IDE cable to attach your optical drives to IDE 1 (secondary
IDE).. the same principle applies.. master is attached to the end of the
cable, slave to the middle..

 

[The Toyman]

Thanks folks, for the quick reply.

I've embarrassed myself -<). You were all correct! My connection
sequence was described wrong. After disassembling the thing far enough to
clearly see what's there, I found the 160GB Seagate (end, black connector)
going to the cd drive (gray connector), which terminates at a blue connector
on the M'board (labeled IDE1). The Western Dig. (separate ribbon cable -
end, black connector) goes to a gray connector (unused) to a blue connector
on the M'board (labeled IDE2).

So based on your advice, I'll reroute one ribbon cable to go from IDE1 on
M'board (blue connector) to Western Dig. (slave - gray connector) to Seagate
(master - black connector. The other ribbon will go from IDE2 on M'board
(blue connector) to cd (end, black connector).

Also I'll take hardware questions to the 'hardware' group. Thanks Patti.

I guess I'd better stop multitasking while working on this thing. That
means my wife can fix dinner without my help <g>.

Again, apologies for my sloppiness, and thanks.

Toyman
____________________________________________
: Hi The Toyman,
:
: A more appropriate newsgroup for your question might be:
: microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware
:
: Perhaps it's just me, but the description of your current "set up" sounds
a
: little odd. From your description, you would have an IDE cable with four
: connectors. I'm not sure that there is such a beast <g>
:
: Anyhow, with one IDE cable, normally one end connector would plug into the
: IDE controller on the motherboard, the other end connector would plug into
: the Master drive, and the middle connector would plug into the Slave
drive.
:
:
:
: Regards,
:
: --
: Patti MacLeod
: Microsoft MVP - Windows Shell/User
:
: : > Not sure I'm in the right place, but . . . If I should be posting
this
: > somewhere else, maybe someone could tell me where to go (nicely).
: >
: > I'm trying to install a new hard drive as the master boot drive and keep
: the
: > old one as slave. The old setup ran the data cable from the M'board to
: the
: > HD to the CD drive. Bought a new cable with the extra connector, but am
: > unsure about the plug-in order. Since the master and slave function are
: > controlled by the jumpers, does it make any difference where the CD
plugs
: > in?
: >
: > Right now one end of the cable plugs in to the old HD (Western Dig.
EIDE)
: to
: > the M'board (connector colored coded blue), to the CD drive, then
: terminates
: > in the new HD (Seagate Ultra ATA/100). The M'board connector is in the
: > middle.
: >
: > Initially had some problems recognizing the new drive with the
: master-slave
: > set up, so rejumpered as new HD=master, and old HD=Single (only HD in
the
: > box). For whatever reason, both drives are now recognized and are
: > accessible- the new drive is the Primary master, and the old drive is a
: > Secondary master. Not sure what's going on there - yet. Hope to get
: that
: > fixed later.
: >
: > Since I'm trying to get this thing running for a friend who has lost his
: XP
: > O/S disk, I'm a bit reluctant to make 'in-the-dark' changes that may
force
: a
: > purchase of another O/S disk.
: >
: > Any thoughts?
: >
: > Toyman
: >
: >
:
:

 

[Patti MacLeod]

You're welcome for the advice, The Toyman

Although I don't take great offense when someone has posted to a newsgroup
which is, perhaps, not the most appropriate one for their question, others
seem to take considerable offense to it. If I think that I may be able to
assist someone with their question, I will do so in addition to steering
them in the direction of (what I hope is) a more appropriate forum.

btw, sometimes the best way to help someone fix dinner is to simply stay out
of their road <g>



Regards,