PC takes 3 mins to boots

T

Trevor

My PC seems to be taking longer and longer to boot up, at least 3 mins, and
just now took 3 boot ups to get going at all, freezing up each time. The PC
is fairly newish - 1 year old. XP Home Edition. I run System Mechanic daily
or every other day, spybot and adaware weekly and trend mcafee and sophos
virus checkers monthly.
 
G

Gerry Cornell

Trevor

How much RAM memory?Try Ctrl+Alt+Delete to select Task
Manager and click the Performance Tab. Under Commit
Charge what is the Total, the Limit and the Peak?

How large is your hard drive and how much free space?

What is your CPU processor speed? Right click on your My
Computer icon on your Desktop and select Properties to get
this information and the amount of RAM memory.

Another avenue of enquiry is the Event Viewer System log.

Please check Event Viewer for Warning / Error Reports in the System
and Application logs for the last boot and post copies.

You can access Event Viewer by selecting Start, Administrative Tools, and
Event Viewer. When researching the meaning of the error, information
regarding Event ID, Source and Description are important.

HOW TO: View and Manage Event Logs in Event Viewer in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;308427&sd=tech

Part of the Description of the error will include a link, which you should
double click for further information. You can copy using copy and paste.
Often the link will, however, say there is no further information.
http://go.microsoft.com/fw.link/events.asp
(Please note the hyperlink above is for illustration purposes only)

A tip for posting copies of Error Reports! Run Event Viewer and double click
on the error you want to copy. In the window, which appears is a button
resembling two pages. Double click the button and close Event Viewer. Now
start your message (email) and do a paste into the body of the message. This
will paste the info from the Event Viewer Error Report complete with links
into the message. Make sure this is the first paste after exiting from Event
Viewer.


--

Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England

Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 
T

Trevor

Gerry Cornell said:
Trevor

How much RAM memory?Try Ctrl+Alt+Delete to select Task
Manager and click the Performance Tab. Under Commit
Charge what is the Total, the Limit and the Peak?

How large is your hard drive and how much free space?

What is your CPU processor speed? Right click on your My
Computer icon on your Desktop and select Properties to get
this information and the amount of RAM memory.

Another avenue of enquiry is the Event Viewer System log.

Please check Event Viewer for Warning / Error Reports in the System
and Application logs for the last boot and post copies.

You can access Event Viewer by selecting Start, Administrative Tools, and
Event Viewer. When researching the meaning of the error, information
regarding Event ID, Source and Description are important.

HOW TO: View and Manage Event Logs in Event Viewer in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;308427&sd=tech

Part of the Description of the error will include a link, which you should
double click for further information. You can copy using copy and paste.
Often the link will, however, say there is no further information.
http://go.microsoft.com/fw.link/events.asp
(Please note the hyperlink above is for illustration purposes only)

A tip for posting copies of Error Reports! Run Event Viewer and double
click
on the error you want to copy. In the window, which appears is a button
resembling two pages. Double click the button and close Event Viewer. Now
start your message (email) and do a paste into the body of the message.
This
will paste the info from the Event Viewer Error Report complete with links
into the message. Make sure this is the first paste after exiting from
Event
Viewer.


--

Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England

Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


OK. Re the first part of your queries. Here is the data:

RAM: 1Gb

Commit Charge:

Total: 970124
Limit: 2522556
Peak: 998728

HD : 250 Gb

C: 125Gb
Used : 103 Gb

CPU Processor speed: 3.4 GHz
 
T

Trevor

Thanks for your very comprehensive reply Gerry BTW. I am having trouble
finding Administrative Tools but will try XP Help.
 
R

Rock

Trevor said:
My PC seems to be taking longer and longer to boot up, at least 3 mins, and
just now took 3 boot ups to get going at all, freezing up each time. The PC
is fairly newish - 1 year old. XP Home Edition. I run System Mechanic daily
or every other day, spybot and adaware weekly and trend mcafee and sophos
virus checkers monthly.

Does it boot ok into safe mode? If so do some clean boot troubleshooting:

How to Troubleshoot By Using the Msconfig Utility in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=310560

How to perform advanced clean-boot troubleshooting in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=316434
 
T

Trevor

It boots OK normally. Just takes a long time. Also takes about 2/3 minutes
to open Outlook.
 
G

Gerry Cornell

Trevor

Try Start, Control Panel, Administrative Tools, Event Viewer.

You need to post the full text of the Error Report.

A tip for posting copies of Error Reports! Run Event Viewer and double click
on the error you want to copy. In the window, which appears is a button
resembling two pages. Double click the button and close Event Viewer. Now
start your message (email) and do a paste into the body of the message. This
will paste the info from the Event Viewer Error Report complete with links
into the message. Make sure this is the first paste after exiting from Event
Viewer.


--

Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England

Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 
C

Cymbal Man Freq.

Could this be an eTrust Firewall/AV issue (or ZA)?
tvdebug.log problem?

| Trevor wrote:
|
| > My PC seems to be taking longer and longer to boot up, at least 3 mins, and
| > just now took 3 boot ups to get going at all, freezing up each time. The PC
| > is fairly newish - 1 year old. XP Home Edition. I run System Mechanic daily
| > or every other day, spybot and adaware weekly and trend mcafee and sophos
| > virus checkers monthly.
|
| Does it boot ok into safe mode? If so do some clean boot troubleshooting:
|
| How to Troubleshoot By Using the Msconfig Utility in Windows XP
| http://support.microsoft.com/?id=310560
|
| How to perform advanced clean-boot troubleshooting in Windows XP
| http://support.microsoft.com/?id=316434
|
| --
| Rock
| MS MVP Windows - Shell/User
|
 
T

Trevor

Gerry Cornell said:
Trevor

Try Start, Control Panel, Administrative Tools, Event Viewer.

You need to post the full text of the Error Report.

A tip for posting copies of Error Reports! Run Event Viewer and double
click
on the error you want to copy. In the window, which appears is a button
resembling two pages. Double click the button and close Event Viewer. Now
start your message (email) and do a paste into the body of the message.
This
will paste the info from the Event Viewer Error Report complete with links
into the message. Make sure this is the first paste after exiting from
Event
Viewer.


--

Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England

Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


Like this?:

Like this:

Event Type: Error

Event Source: Service Control Manager

Event Category: None

Event ID: 7023

Date: 13/03/2006

Time: 18:19:11

User: N/A

Computer: MEDION

Description:

The Application Management service terminated with the following error:

The system cannot find the file specified.

For more information, see Help and Support Center at

http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
 
G

Gerry Cornell

Trevor

We need to know what file is specified?

You need to open this link in the Report on your computer as
it it cannot be accessed except on your computer

For more information, see Help and Support Center at
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.

Please post a copy of the contents of the link.

--

Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England

Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 
C

Cymbal Man Freq.

|
| message | > Could this be an eTrust Firewall/AV issue (or ZA)?
| > tvdebug.log problem?
| >
|
|
|
| Could be, how would I know?
|


Do you HAVE eTrust or Zone Alarm?
 
U

Uncle Grumpy

Trevor said:
My PC seems to be taking longer and longer to boot up, at least 3 mins, and
just now took 3 boot ups to get going at all, freezing up each time. The PC
is fairly newish - 1 year old. XP Home Edition. I run System Mechanic daily
or every other day,

Be very careful when you run SM. If you don't know what you're doing,
it can get you into a lot of trouble.

I know what I'm doing, and I'm VERY selective with it. And I wouldn't
think ANY system needs it to be run "daily or every other day". That's
being obsessive.
 
R

Rock

Trevor said:
It boots OK normally. Just takes a long time. Also takes about 2/3 minutes
to open Outlook.

I know it boots into normal mode but it doesn't boot Ok - you state
there is an extended boot time. The question was - does it boot Ok in
safe mode meaning a normal boot time? If it does that indicates it's a
program/service loading in normal mode that's hanging things up. Common
culprits are the anti-virus and firewall but it could be anything.
That's where clean boot troubleshooting comes in. Follow the links I
gave you on how to do this.
 
C

Cymbal Man Freq.

If it doesn't boot normally the first time each day, boot into Safe Mode on the
reboot and check your rb*.cab (or whatever XP uses nowadays), then reboot into
normal mode. Maybe it just wants to visit Safe Mode first before waking up for
the day. (fictional virtual snooze feature on the firewall).


| Trevor wrote:
|
| > It boots OK normally. Just takes a long time. Also takes about 2/3 minutes
| > to open Outlook.
| >
| >
|
| I know it boots into normal mode but it doesn't boot Ok - you state
| there is an extended boot time. The question was - does it boot Ok in
| safe mode meaning a normal boot time? If it does that indicates it's a
| program/service loading in normal mode that's hanging things up. Common
| culprits are the anti-virus and firewall but it could be anything.
| That's where clean boot troubleshooting comes in. Follow the links I
| gave you on how to do this.
|
| --
| Rock
| MS MVP Windows - Shell/User
|
 
T

Trevor

Rock said:
I know it boots into normal mode but it doesn't boot Ok - you state there
is an extended boot time. The question was - does it boot Ok in safe mode
meaning a normal boot time? If it does that indicates it's a
program/service loading in normal mode that's hanging things up. Common
culprits are the anti-virus and firewall but it could be anything. That's
where clean boot troubleshooting comes in. Follow the links I gave you on
how to do this.

--

On attempting to boot in safe mode

it hung for 7/8 mins at this line:

multi(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS\System32\Drivers\Mup.sys

then booted normally i.e. NOT is safe mode
 
T

Trevor

Cymbal Man Freq. said:
|
| message | > Could this be an eTrust Firewall/AV issue (or ZA)?
| > tvdebug.log problem?
| >
|
|
|
| Could be, how would I know?
|


Do you HAVE eTrust or Zone Alarm?


No Zonealarm. E trust did originally come with the PC but I removed it and
put Norton on.
 
J

Jonny

Have you cleaned up the registry with System Mechanic?
May have been an overzealous cleanup(s) causing the mess.
 

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