Password not retained - Q290684 tried and doesn't work

G

Guest

I have followed several threads here and it took a while to find the current
KB article 290684. I followed those steps carefully and it did not work. I am
using Outlook 2003 under Win XP SP2 and it was working fine until last night.
I verified with my ISP that this is not a mail server error on their side.
The error message reports it as a syntax error. My ISP requires SMTP
authentication and that password is not being retained, or if the email
account screen shows something in the password box with the save password
ticked, it still doesn't work - the network password dialog keeps popping up
on every transmission - sometimes having to enter 2 or three times to
get/send mail. How can I get off this merry-go-round?
 
G

Guest

Well, normally I'd send you to a different article,
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=264672, which should work for all versions
of Outlook and Outlook Express running on Windows XP...but wouldn't you know
it, that article is unavailable right now. I don't know if it's coming back
or not.

--
Jocelyn Fiorello
MVP - Outlook

*** Messages sent to my e-mail address will NOT be answered -- please reply
only to the newsgroup to preserve the message thread. ***
 
G

Guest

Yes, Q264672 is no longer available. In fact, it was rolled up
(consolidated) in Q290684 together with several other related earlier
articles (it says so in Q298684). What was in the earlier article that isn't
in the current one?
--
I've tried everything I 've read everywhere and no solution to be found. The
Protected Storage System Provider Subkey that replaced the one I deleted
shows only default values. What's supposed to be in there? I don't mind
hacking a little if someone would guide me. Apparently, there are several
other user group orphans in the Outlook headings who never got a solution.
 
G

Guest

I'm investigating this and will post back if I find any information for you.

--
Jocelyn Fiorello
MVP - Outlook

*** Messages sent to my e-mail address will NOT be answered -- please reply
only to the newsgroup to preserve the message thread. ***
 
G

Guest

I found a Microsoft Backup system state backup file from about 10 days ago.
I've never used this software to do a restore. It appears I can restore
registry files to an alternative directory/folder. If I do so, will I be
able to open that file with an editor to find the Protected Storage System
Provide subkeys within it and create a .reg file to restore my current
corrupted registry? My main concern in doing a restore is creating some
other unexpected damage.
 
G

Guest

Before you do any restores, here is what I got from a fellow MVP about the
registry question you had in your earlier reply:

"The new key that is created will be empty until he starts saving passwords
(and changes permissions to see the contents) – deleting the keys removes all
saved passwords for all apps. Deleting just the subkey for outlook will not
fix the problem – the entire PSS key needs to go."

Try that and post back to tell me whether or not that takes care of the
problem.

--
Jocelyn Fiorello
MVP - Outlook

*** Messages sent to my e-mail address will NOT be answered -- please reply
only to the newsgroup to preserve the message thread. ***
 
S

Spediteur

As I mentioned below, I have no idea what to expect if I restore System
State from Windows backup in a new folder. I have no idea how to even
direct Regedt32 to open a registry file located other than the default
location, or if I will be able to find the PSS key within the backed up
registry to be exported then merged into the current registry. I need some
hand-holding here. Backup help is useless in this respect.

Thanks
Spediteur

"Jocelyn Fiorello [MVP - Outlook]"
 
G

Guest

You said: "The Protected Storage System Provider Subkey that replaced the one
I deleted shows only default values. What's supposed to be in there?"

The MSKB article #290684 says that if you are using Windows XP you should
delete the following key:

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Protected Storage System Provider

This is the key that I was told to tell you to delete. I am confused as to
why you think you need to do a system restore at all...do you not have that
key in your registry now?

--
Jocelyn Fiorello
MVP - Outlook

*** Messages sent to my e-mail address will NOT be answered -- please reply
only to the newsgroup to preserve the message thread. ***


Spediteur said:
As I mentioned below, I have no idea what to expect if I restore System
State from Windows backup in a new folder. I have no idea how to even
direct Regedt32 to open a registry file located other than the default
location, or if I will be able to find the PSS key within the backed up
registry to be exported then merged into the current registry. I need some
hand-holding here. Backup help is useless in this respect.

Thanks
Spediteur

"Jocelyn Fiorello [MVP - Outlook]"
Before you do any restores, here is what I got from a fellow MVP about the
registry question you had in your earlier reply:

"The new key that is created will be empty until he starts saving
passwords
(and changes permissions to see the contents) - deleting the keys removes
all
saved passwords for all apps. Deleting just the subkey for outlook will
not
fix the problem - the entire PSS key needs to go."

Try that and post back to tell me whether or not that takes care of the
problem.

--
Jocelyn Fiorello
MVP - Outlook

*** Messages sent to my e-mail address will NOT be answered -- please
reply
only to the newsgroup to preserve the message thread. ***
 
G

Guest

In MSKB Article 290684 at "Resolution" it states "remove the user account
information from the Protected Storage System Provider SUBKEY" [emphasis
added]. Under the specific instructions for Windows XP, the article further
states: "Do not remove the main Protected Storage System Provider key. This
key is not automatically regenerated." My understanding of these instructions
is to not delete the the key "HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Protected
Storage System Provider" itself but only subkeys found below it. Detailed
instruction step 10 explains that only user subkeys below the main key should
be deleted. This is what I did and the result was replacement of those
deleted subkeys with "HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Protected Storage
System Provider\S-1-5-21-462910757-3317918806-3440040658-1007" showing
default values not set. So please explain what I have done incorrectly and
how to resolve this problem. This is the reason I felt it necessary to go to
a registry backup to find a good working copy of those missing subkeys. In
any case, I cannot figure out how to do this since I cannot figure out how to
edit or manipulate the restored registry data which I restored to a folder on
an external hard drive.

Thanks
--
Spediteur


Jocelyn Fiorello said:
You said: "The Protected Storage System Provider Subkey that replaced the one
I deleted shows only default values. What's supposed to be in there?"

The MSKB article #290684 says that if you are using Windows XP you should
delete the following key:

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Protected Storage System Provider

This is the key that I was told to tell you to delete. I am confused as to
why you think you need to do a system restore at all...do you not have that
key in your registry now?

--
Jocelyn Fiorello
MVP - Outlook

*** Messages sent to my e-mail address will NOT be answered -- please reply
only to the newsgroup to preserve the message thread. ***


Spediteur said:
As I mentioned below, I have no idea what to expect if I restore System
State from Windows backup in a new folder. I have no idea how to even
direct Regedt32 to open a registry file located other than the default
location, or if I will be able to find the PSS key within the backed up
registry to be exported then merged into the current registry. I need some
hand-holding here. Backup help is useless in this respect.

Thanks
Spediteur

"Jocelyn Fiorello [MVP - Outlook]"
Before you do any restores, here is what I got from a fellow MVP about the
registry question you had in your earlier reply:

"The new key that is created will be empty until he starts saving
passwords
(and changes permissions to see the contents) - deleting the keys removes
all
saved passwords for all apps. Deleting just the subkey for outlook will
not
fix the problem - the entire PSS key needs to go."

Try that and post back to tell me whether or not that takes care of the
problem.

--
Jocelyn Fiorello
MVP - Outlook

*** Messages sent to my e-mail address will NOT be answered -- please
reply
only to the newsgroup to preserve the message thread. ***


:

I found a Microsoft Backup system state backup file from about 10 days
ago.
I've never used this software to do a restore. It appears I can restore
registry files to an alternative directory/folder. If I do so, will I be
able to open that file with an editor to find the Protected Storage
System
Provide subkeys within it and create a .reg file to restore my current
corrupted registry? My main concern in doing a restore is creating some
other unexpected damage.
--
Eric Steinbock


:

I'm investigating this and will post back if I find any information for
you.

--
Jocelyn Fiorello
MVP - Outlook

*** Messages sent to my e-mail address will NOT be answered -- please
reply
only to the newsgroup to preserve the message thread. ***


:

Yes, Q264672 is no longer available. In fact, it was rolled up
(consolidated) in Q290684 together with several other related earlier
articles (it says so in Q298684). What was in the earlier article
that isn't
in the current one?
--
I've tried everything I 've read everywhere and no solution to be
found. The
Protected Storage System Provider Subkey that replaced the one I
deleted
shows only default values. What's supposed to be in there? I don't
mind
hacking a little if someone would guide me. Apparently, there are
several
other user group orphans in the Outlook headings who never got a
solution.


:

Well, normally I'd send you to a different article,
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=264672, which should work for all
versions
of Outlook and Outlook Express running on Windows XP...but wouldn't
you know
it, that article is unavailable right now. I don't know if it's
coming back
or not.

--
Jocelyn Fiorello
MVP - Outlook

*** Messages sent to my e-mail address will NOT be answered --
please reply
only to the newsgroup to preserve the message thread. ***


:

I have followed several threads here and it took a while to find
the current
KB article 290684. I followed those steps carefully and it did
not work. I am
using Outlook 2003 under Win XP SP2 and it was working fine until
last night.
I verified with my ISP that this is not a mail server error on
their side.
The error message reports it as a syntax error. My ISP requires
SMTP
authentication and that password is not being retained, or if the
email
account screen shows something in the password box with the save
password
ticked, it still doesn't work - the network password dialog keeps
popping up
on every transmission - sometimes having to enter 2 or three
times to
get/send mail. How can I get off this merry-go-round?
 
S

Spediteur

In the meantime, I did some testing. After following the instructions in
MSKB Article 290684, I noted that when I reset the passwords using the
control panel mail item, when I immediately re-entered the mail item the
passwords I just entered with save box ticked were again empty! Nothing is
saved! I am using Outlook Express for another email (non-default email
handler) and after deleting the PSSP sub-key I had to reenter the password
there - the 'save password' check box is shaded out and the password is
indeed saved. Likewise, certain IE user and password settings are again
saved after re-entry following the sub-key deletion. ONLY OUTLOOK 2003
SETTINGS ARE NOT RETAINED! After resetting permissions, an inspection of the
newly re-created subkeys of PSSP do not indicate any reference to Outlook,
although I can easily find Main Identity setting used by Outlook Express.
What is wrong that Outlook 2003 isw the only software which does not reset
its passwords and what is Microsoft doing about this?

Spedituer

--
Yesterday it worked
Today it is not working
Windows is like that.


Spediteur said:
In MSKB Article 290684 at "Resolution" it states "remove the user account
information from the Protected Storage System Provider SUBKEY" [emphasis
added]. Under the specific instructions for Windows XP, the article
further
states: "Do not remove the main Protected Storage System Provider key.
This
key is not automatically regenerated." My understanding of these
instructions
is to not delete the the key
"HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Protected
Storage System Provider" itself but only subkeys found below it. Detailed
instruction step 10 explains that only user subkeys below the main key
should
be deleted. This is what I did and the result was replacement of those
deleted subkeys with "HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Protected
Storage
System Provider\S-1-5-21-462910757-3317918806-3440040658-1007" showing
default values not set. So please explain what I have done incorrectly
and
how to resolve this problem. This is the reason I felt it necessary to go
to
a registry backup to find a good working copy of those missing subkeys.
In
any case, I cannot figure out how to do this since I cannot figure out how
to
edit or manipulate the restored registry data which I restored to a folder
on
an external hard drive.

Thanks
--
Spediteur


Jocelyn Fiorello said:
You said: "The Protected Storage System Provider Subkey that replaced the
one
I deleted shows only default values. What's supposed to be in there?"

The MSKB article #290684 says that if you are using Windows XP you should
delete the following key:

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Protected Storage System Provider

This is the key that I was told to tell you to delete. I am confused as
to
why you think you need to do a system restore at all...do you not have
that
key in your registry now?

--
Jocelyn Fiorello
MVP - Outlook

*** Messages sent to my e-mail address will NOT be answered -- please
reply
only to the newsgroup to preserve the message thread. ***


Spediteur said:
As I mentioned below, I have no idea what to expect if I restore System
State from Windows backup in a new folder. I have no idea how to even
direct Regedt32 to open a registry file located other than the default
location, or if I will be able to find the PSS key within the backed up
registry to be exported then merged into the current registry. I need
some
hand-holding here. Backup help is useless in this respect.

Thanks
Spediteur

"Jocelyn Fiorello [MVP - Outlook]"
Before you do any restores, here is what I got from a fellow MVP
about the
registry question you had in your earlier reply:

"The new key that is created will be empty until he starts saving
passwords
(and changes permissions to see the contents) - deleting the keys
removes
all
saved passwords for all apps. Deleting just the subkey for outlook
will
not
fix the problem - the entire PSS key needs to go."

Try that and post back to tell me whether or not that takes care of
the
problem.

--
Jocelyn Fiorello
MVP - Outlook

*** Messages sent to my e-mail address will NOT be answered -- please
reply
only to the newsgroup to preserve the message thread. ***


:

I found a Microsoft Backup system state backup file from about 10
days
ago.
I've never used this software to do a restore. It appears I can
restore
registry files to an alternative directory/folder. If I do so, will
I be
able to open that file with an editor to find the Protected Storage
System
Provide subkeys within it and create a .reg file to restore my
current
corrupted registry? My main concern in doing a restore is creating
some
other unexpected damage.
--
Eric Steinbock


:

I'm investigating this and will post back if I find any
information for
you.

--
Jocelyn Fiorello
MVP - Outlook

*** Messages sent to my e-mail address will NOT be answered --
please
reply
only to the newsgroup to preserve the message thread. ***


:

Yes, Q264672 is no longer available. In fact, it was rolled up
(consolidated) in Q290684 together with several other related
earlier
articles (it says so in Q298684). What was in the earlier
article
that isn't
in the current one?
--
I've tried everything I 've read everywhere and no solution to
be
found. The
Protected Storage System Provider Subkey that replaced the one I
deleted
shows only default values. What's supposed to be in there? I
don't
mind
hacking a little if someone would guide me. Apparently, there
are
several
other user group orphans in the Outlook headings who never got a
solution.


:

Well, normally I'd send you to a different article,
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=264672, which should work for
all
versions
of Outlook and Outlook Express running on Windows XP...but
wouldn't
you know
it, that article is unavailable right now. I don't know if
it's
coming back
or not.

--
Jocelyn Fiorello
MVP - Outlook

*** Messages sent to my e-mail address will NOT be answered --
please reply
only to the newsgroup to preserve the message thread. ***


:

I have followed several threads here and it took a while to
find
the current
KB article 290684. I followed those steps carefully and it
did
not work. I am
using Outlook 2003 under Win XP SP2 and it was working fine
until
last night.
I verified with my ISP that this is not a mail server error
on
their side.
The error message reports it as a syntax error. My ISP
requires
SMTP
authentication and that password is not being retained, or
if the
email
account screen shows something in the password box with the
save
password
ticked, it still doesn't work - the network password dialog
keeps
popping up
on every transmission - sometimes having to enter 2 or three
times to
get/send mail. How can I get off this merry-go-round?
 
G

Guest

I am still investigating this issue and I will post back if I come up with
anything.

--
Jocelyn Fiorello
MVP - Outlook

*** Messages sent to my e-mail address will NOT be answered -- please reply
only to the newsgroup to preserve the message thread. ***


Spediteur said:
In the meantime, I did some testing. After following the instructions in
MSKB Article 290684, I noted that when I reset the passwords using the
control panel mail item, when I immediately re-entered the mail item the
passwords I just entered with save box ticked were again empty! Nothing is
saved! I am using Outlook Express for another email (non-default email
handler) and after deleting the PSSP sub-key I had to reenter the password
there - the 'save password' check box is shaded out and the password is
indeed saved. Likewise, certain IE user and password settings are again
saved after re-entry following the sub-key deletion. ONLY OUTLOOK 2003
SETTINGS ARE NOT RETAINED! After resetting permissions, an inspection of the
newly re-created subkeys of PSSP do not indicate any reference to Outlook,
although I can easily find Main Identity setting used by Outlook Express.
What is wrong that Outlook 2003 isw the only software which does not reset
its passwords and what is Microsoft doing about this?

Spedituer

--
Yesterday it worked
Today it is not working
Windows is like that.


Spediteur said:
In MSKB Article 290684 at "Resolution" it states "remove the user account
information from the Protected Storage System Provider SUBKEY" [emphasis
added]. Under the specific instructions for Windows XP, the article
further
states: "Do not remove the main Protected Storage System Provider key.
This
key is not automatically regenerated." My understanding of these
instructions
is to not delete the the key
"HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Protected
Storage System Provider" itself but only subkeys found below it. Detailed
instruction step 10 explains that only user subkeys below the main key
should
be deleted. This is what I did and the result was replacement of those
deleted subkeys with "HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Protected
Storage
System Provider\S-1-5-21-462910757-3317918806-3440040658-1007" showing
default values not set. So please explain what I have done incorrectly
and
how to resolve this problem. This is the reason I felt it necessary to go
to
a registry backup to find a good working copy of those missing subkeys.
In
any case, I cannot figure out how to do this since I cannot figure out how
to
edit or manipulate the restored registry data which I restored to a folder
on
an external hard drive.

Thanks
--
Spediteur


Jocelyn Fiorello said:
You said: "The Protected Storage System Provider Subkey that replaced the
one
I deleted shows only default values. What's supposed to be in there?"

The MSKB article #290684 says that if you are using Windows XP you should
delete the following key:

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Protected Storage System Provider

This is the key that I was told to tell you to delete. I am confused as
to
why you think you need to do a system restore at all...do you not have
that
key in your registry now?

--
Jocelyn Fiorello
MVP - Outlook

*** Messages sent to my e-mail address will NOT be answered -- please
reply
only to the newsgroup to preserve the message thread. ***


:

As I mentioned below, I have no idea what to expect if I restore System
State from Windows backup in a new folder. I have no idea how to even
direct Regedt32 to open a registry file located other than the default
location, or if I will be able to find the PSS key within the backed up
registry to be exported then merged into the current registry. I need
some
hand-holding here. Backup help is useless in this respect.

Thanks
Spediteur

"Jocelyn Fiorello [MVP - Outlook]"
Before you do any restores, here is what I got from a fellow MVP
about the
registry question you had in your earlier reply:

"The new key that is created will be empty until he starts saving
passwords
(and changes permissions to see the contents) - deleting the keys
removes
all
saved passwords for all apps. Deleting just the subkey for outlook
will
not
fix the problem - the entire PSS key needs to go."

Try that and post back to tell me whether or not that takes care of
the
problem.

--
Jocelyn Fiorello
MVP - Outlook

*** Messages sent to my e-mail address will NOT be answered -- please
reply
only to the newsgroup to preserve the message thread. ***


:

I found a Microsoft Backup system state backup file from about 10
days
ago.
I've never used this software to do a restore. It appears I can
restore
registry files to an alternative directory/folder. If I do so, will
I be
able to open that file with an editor to find the Protected Storage
System
Provide subkeys within it and create a .reg file to restore my
current
corrupted registry? My main concern in doing a restore is creating
some
other unexpected damage.
--
Eric Steinbock


:

I'm investigating this and will post back if I find any
information for
you.

--
Jocelyn Fiorello
MVP - Outlook

*** Messages sent to my e-mail address will NOT be answered --
please
reply
only to the newsgroup to preserve the message thread. ***


:

Yes, Q264672 is no longer available. In fact, it was rolled up
(consolidated) in Q290684 together with several other related
earlier
articles (it says so in Q298684). What was in the earlier
article
that isn't
in the current one?
--
I've tried everything I 've read everywhere and no solution to
be
found. The
Protected Storage System Provider Subkey that replaced the one I
deleted
shows only default values. What's supposed to be in there? I
don't
mind
hacking a little if someone would guide me. Apparently, there
are
several
other user group orphans in the Outlook headings who never got a
solution.


:

Well, normally I'd send you to a different article,
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=264672, which should work for
all
versions
of Outlook and Outlook Express running on Windows XP...but
wouldn't
you know
it, that article is unavailable right now. I don't know if
it's
coming back
or not.

--
Jocelyn Fiorello
MVP - Outlook

*** Messages sent to my e-mail address will NOT be answered --
please reply
only to the newsgroup to preserve the message thread. ***


:

I have followed several threads here and it took a while to
find
the current
KB article 290684. I followed those steps carefully and it
did
not work. I am
using Outlook 2003 under Win XP SP2 and it was working fine
until
last night.
I verified with my ISP that this is not a mail server error
on
their side.
The error message reports it as a syntax error. My ISP
requires
SMTP
authentication and that password is not being retained, or
if the
email
account screen shows something in the password box with the
save
password
ticked, it still doesn't work - the network password dialog
keeps
popping up
on every transmission - sometimes having to enter 2 or three
times to
get/send mail. How can I get off this merry-go-round?
 
G

Guest

I'm assuming that no solution to this problem is available? My situation
remains the same:
I continually receive the "Enter Network Password" Pop-up when receiving
e-mails. I have tried everything unsuccessfully to eliminate it including all
the steps of Knowledge Base Article 290684. I'm starting to believe this is
an inherent flaw in Outlook 2002?

I recently changed ISP's from Roadrunner, where I didn't have this problem,
to SBCYahoo where the problem surfaced. The only differecne I can discern
from the two providers is that SBC requires "outgoing server authentication"
while RR doesn't. I'm wondering if all those having the same problem are
using SBCYahoo or an ISP that requires "outgoing server authentication" and
if so, could this be part of the problem?

I am running Outlook 2002 (10.6515.6626) SP3 on Windows XP Professional.

Thanks, in advance, for any advice you can provide me.

Ray19
P.S. Does anyone know if this same problem exists on later versions of
Outlook other than 2002 and 2003? Its so disconcerting that I may consider
upgrading if there is no other solution.

,
ryion to this problem has beend ta there
--
Ray19


Jocelyn Fiorello said:
I am still investigating this issue and I will post back if I come up with
anything.

--
Jocelyn Fiorello
MVP - Outlook

*** Messages sent to my e-mail address will NOT be answered -- please reply
only to the newsgroup to preserve the message thread. ***


Spediteur said:
In the meantime, I did some testing. After following the instructions in
MSKB Article 290684, I noted that when I reset the passwords using the
control panel mail item, when I immediately re-entered the mail item the
passwords I just entered with save box ticked were again empty! Nothing is
saved! I am using Outlook Express for another email (non-default email
handler) and after deleting the PSSP sub-key I had to reenter the password
there - the 'save password' check box is shaded out and the password is
indeed saved. Likewise, certain IE user and password settings are again
saved after re-entry following the sub-key deletion. ONLY OUTLOOK 2003
SETTINGS ARE NOT RETAINED! After resetting permissions, an inspection of the
newly re-created subkeys of PSSP do not indicate any reference to Outlook,
although I can easily find Main Identity setting used by Outlook Express.
What is wrong that Outlook 2003 isw the only software which does not reset
its passwords and what is Microsoft doing about this?

Spedituer

--
Yesterday it worked
Today it is not working
Windows is like that.


Spediteur said:
In MSKB Article 290684 at "Resolution" it states "remove the user account
information from the Protected Storage System Provider SUBKEY" [emphasis
added]. Under the specific instructions for Windows XP, the article
further
states: "Do not remove the main Protected Storage System Provider key.
This
key is not automatically regenerated." My understanding of these
instructions
is to not delete the the key
"HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Protected
Storage System Provider" itself but only subkeys found below it. Detailed
instruction step 10 explains that only user subkeys below the main key
should
be deleted. This is what I did and the result was replacement of those
deleted subkeys with "HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Protected
Storage
System Provider\S-1-5-21-462910757-3317918806-3440040658-1007" showing
default values not set. So please explain what I have done incorrectly
and
how to resolve this problem. This is the reason I felt it necessary to go
to
a registry backup to find a good working copy of those missing subkeys.
In
any case, I cannot figure out how to do this since I cannot figure out how
to
edit or manipulate the restored registry data which I restored to a folder
on
an external hard drive.

Thanks
--
Spediteur


:

You said: "The Protected Storage System Provider Subkey that replaced the
one
I deleted shows only default values. What's supposed to be in there?"

The MSKB article #290684 says that if you are using Windows XP you should
delete the following key:

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Protected Storage System Provider

This is the key that I was told to tell you to delete. I am confused as
to
why you think you need to do a system restore at all...do you not have
that
key in your registry now?

--
Jocelyn Fiorello
MVP - Outlook

*** Messages sent to my e-mail address will NOT be answered -- please
reply
only to the newsgroup to preserve the message thread. ***


:

As I mentioned below, I have no idea what to expect if I restore System
State from Windows backup in a new folder. I have no idea how to even
direct Regedt32 to open a registry file located other than the default
location, or if I will be able to find the PSS key within the backed up
registry to be exported then merged into the current registry. I need
some
hand-holding here. Backup help is useless in this respect.

Thanks
Spediteur

"Jocelyn Fiorello [MVP - Outlook]"
Before you do any restores, here is what I got from a fellow MVP
about the
registry question you had in your earlier reply:

"The new key that is created will be empty until he starts saving
passwords
(and changes permissions to see the contents) - deleting the keys
removes
all
saved passwords for all apps. Deleting just the subkey for outlook
will
not
fix the problem - the entire PSS key needs to go."

Try that and post back to tell me whether or not that takes care of
the
problem.

--
Jocelyn Fiorello
MVP - Outlook

*** Messages sent to my e-mail address will NOT be answered -- please
reply
only to the newsgroup to preserve the message thread. ***


:

I found a Microsoft Backup system state backup file from about 10
days
ago.
I've never used this software to do a restore. It appears I can
restore
registry files to an alternative directory/folder. If I do so, will
I be
able to open that file with an editor to find the Protected Storage
System
Provide subkeys within it and create a .reg file to restore my
current
corrupted registry? My main concern in doing a restore is creating
some
other unexpected damage.
--
Eric Steinbock


:

I'm investigating this and will post back if I find any
information for
you.

--
Jocelyn Fiorello
MVP - Outlook

*** Messages sent to my e-mail address will NOT be answered --
please
reply
only to the newsgroup to preserve the message thread. ***


:

Yes, Q264672 is no longer available. In fact, it was rolled up
(consolidated) in Q290684 together with several other related
earlier
articles (it says so in Q298684). What was in the earlier
article
that isn't
in the current one?
--
I've tried everything I 've read everywhere and no solution to
be
found. The
Protected Storage System Provider Subkey that replaced the one I
deleted
shows only default values. What's supposed to be in there? I
don't
mind
hacking a little if someone would guide me. Apparently, there
are
several
other user group orphans in the Outlook headings who never got a
solution.


:

Well, normally I'd send you to a different article,
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=264672, which should work for
all
versions
of Outlook and Outlook Express running on Windows XP...but
wouldn't
you know
it, that article is unavailable right now. I don't know if
it's
coming back
or not.

--
Jocelyn Fiorello
MVP - Outlook

*** Messages sent to my e-mail address will NOT be answered --
please reply
only to the newsgroup to preserve the message thread. ***


:

I have followed several threads here and it took a while to
find
the current
KB article 290684. I followed those steps carefully and it
did
not work. I am
using Outlook 2003 under Win XP SP2 and it was working fine
until
last night.
I verified with my ISP that this is not a mail server error
on
their side.
The error message reports it as a syntax error. My ISP
requires
SMTP
authentication and that password is not being retained, or
if the
email
account screen shows something in the password box with the
save
password
ticked, it still doesn't work - the network password dialog
keeps
popping up
on every transmission - sometimes having to enter 2 or three
times to
get/send mail. How can I get off this merry-go-round?
 
G

Guest

Ray, the thread you replied to is quite old. You might want to repost your
question in a new thread to get maximum exposure. (As you might have
imagined, I don't have any more insight on this particular issue, as I
haven't posted to the thread in nearly a month.)

--
Jocelyn Fiorello
MVP - Outlook

*** Messages sent to my e-mail address will NOT be answered -- please reply
only to the newsgroup to preserve the message thread. ***


Ray19 said:
I'm assuming that no solution to this problem is available? My situation
remains the same:
I continually receive the "Enter Network Password" Pop-up when receiving
e-mails. I have tried everything unsuccessfully to eliminate it including all
the steps of Knowledge Base Article 290684. I'm starting to believe this is
an inherent flaw in Outlook 2002?

I recently changed ISP's from Roadrunner, where I didn't have this problem,
to SBCYahoo where the problem surfaced. The only differecne I can discern
from the two providers is that SBC requires "outgoing server authentication"
while RR doesn't. I'm wondering if all those having the same problem are
using SBCYahoo or an ISP that requires "outgoing server authentication" and
if so, could this be part of the problem?

I am running Outlook 2002 (10.6515.6626) SP3 on Windows XP Professional.

Thanks, in advance, for any advice you can provide me.

Ray19
P.S. Does anyone know if this same problem exists on later versions of
Outlook other than 2002 and 2003? Its so disconcerting that I may consider
upgrading if there is no other solution.

,
ryion to this problem has beend ta there
--
Ray19


Jocelyn Fiorello said:
I am still investigating this issue and I will post back if I come up with
anything.

--
Jocelyn Fiorello
MVP - Outlook

*** Messages sent to my e-mail address will NOT be answered -- please reply
only to the newsgroup to preserve the message thread. ***


Spediteur said:
In the meantime, I did some testing. After following the instructions in
MSKB Article 290684, I noted that when I reset the passwords using the
control panel mail item, when I immediately re-entered the mail item the
passwords I just entered with save box ticked were again empty! Nothing is
saved! I am using Outlook Express for another email (non-default email
handler) and after deleting the PSSP sub-key I had to reenter the password
there - the 'save password' check box is shaded out and the password is
indeed saved. Likewise, certain IE user and password settings are again
saved after re-entry following the sub-key deletion. ONLY OUTLOOK 2003
SETTINGS ARE NOT RETAINED! After resetting permissions, an inspection of the
newly re-created subkeys of PSSP do not indicate any reference to Outlook,
although I can easily find Main Identity setting used by Outlook Express.
What is wrong that Outlook 2003 isw the only software which does not reset
its passwords and what is Microsoft doing about this?

Spedituer

--
Yesterday it worked
Today it is not working
Windows is like that.


In MSKB Article 290684 at "Resolution" it states "remove the user account
information from the Protected Storage System Provider SUBKEY" [emphasis
added]. Under the specific instructions for Windows XP, the article
further
states: "Do not remove the main Protected Storage System Provider key.
This
key is not automatically regenerated." My understanding of these
instructions
is to not delete the the key
"HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Protected
Storage System Provider" itself but only subkeys found below it. Detailed
instruction step 10 explains that only user subkeys below the main key
should
be deleted. This is what I did and the result was replacement of those
deleted subkeys with "HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Protected
Storage
System Provider\S-1-5-21-462910757-3317918806-3440040658-1007" showing
default values not set. So please explain what I have done incorrectly
and
how to resolve this problem. This is the reason I felt it necessary to go
to
a registry backup to find a good working copy of those missing subkeys.
In
any case, I cannot figure out how to do this since I cannot figure out how
to
edit or manipulate the restored registry data which I restored to a folder
on
an external hard drive.

Thanks
--
Spediteur


:

You said: "The Protected Storage System Provider Subkey that replaced the
one
I deleted shows only default values. What's supposed to be in there?"

The MSKB article #290684 says that if you are using Windows XP you should
delete the following key:

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Protected Storage System Provider

This is the key that I was told to tell you to delete. I am confused as
to
why you think you need to do a system restore at all...do you not have
that
key in your registry now?

--
Jocelyn Fiorello
MVP - Outlook

*** Messages sent to my e-mail address will NOT be answered -- please
reply
only to the newsgroup to preserve the message thread. ***


:

As I mentioned below, I have no idea what to expect if I restore System
State from Windows backup in a new folder. I have no idea how to even
direct Regedt32 to open a registry file located other than the default
location, or if I will be able to find the PSS key within the backed up
registry to be exported then merged into the current registry. I need
some
hand-holding here. Backup help is useless in this respect.

Thanks
Spediteur

"Jocelyn Fiorello [MVP - Outlook]"
Before you do any restores, here is what I got from a fellow MVP
about the
registry question you had in your earlier reply:

"The new key that is created will be empty until he starts saving
passwords
(and changes permissions to see the contents) - deleting the keys
removes
all
saved passwords for all apps. Deleting just the subkey for outlook
will
not
fix the problem - the entire PSS key needs to go."

Try that and post back to tell me whether or not that takes care of
the
problem.

--
Jocelyn Fiorello
MVP - Outlook

*** Messages sent to my e-mail address will NOT be answered -- please
reply
only to the newsgroup to preserve the message thread. ***


:

I found a Microsoft Backup system state backup file from about 10
days
ago.
I've never used this software to do a restore. It appears I can
restore
registry files to an alternative directory/folder. If I do so, will
I be
able to open that file with an editor to find the Protected Storage
System
Provide subkeys within it and create a .reg file to restore my
current
corrupted registry? My main concern in doing a restore is creating
some
other unexpected damage.
--
Eric Steinbock


:

I'm investigating this and will post back if I find any
information for
you.

--
Jocelyn Fiorello
MVP - Outlook

*** Messages sent to my e-mail address will NOT be answered --
please
reply
only to the newsgroup to preserve the message thread. ***


:

Yes, Q264672 is no longer available. In fact, it was rolled up
(consolidated) in Q290684 together with several other related
earlier
articles (it says so in Q298684). What was in the earlier
article
that isn't
in the current one?
--
I've tried everything I 've read everywhere and no solution to
be
found. The
Protected Storage System Provider Subkey that replaced the one I
deleted
shows only default values. What's supposed to be in there? I
don't
mind
hacking a little if someone would guide me. Apparently, there
are
several
other user group orphans in the Outlook headings who never got a
solution.


:

Well, normally I'd send you to a different article,
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=264672, which should work for
all
versions
of Outlook and Outlook Express running on Windows XP...but
wouldn't
you know
it, that article is unavailable right now. I don't know if
it's
coming back
or not.

--
Jocelyn Fiorello
MVP - Outlook

*** Messages sent to my e-mail address will NOT be answered --
please reply
only to the newsgroup to preserve the message thread. ***


:

I have followed several threads here and it took a while to
find
the current
KB article 290684. I followed those steps carefully and it
did
not work. I am
using Outlook 2003 under Win XP SP2 and it was working fine
until
last night.
I verified with my ISP that this is not a mail server error
on
their side.
The error message reports it as a syntax error. My ISP
requires
SMTP
authentication and that password is not being retained, or
if the
email
account screen shows something in the password box with the
save
password
ticked, it still doesn't work - the network password dialog
keeps
popping up
on every transmission - sometimes having to enter 2 or three
times to
get/send mail. How can I get off this merry-go-round?
 
G

Guest

I am using Outlook 2003 and also have SMTP Outgoing server authentication.
However, I always had this setting and one day the password retention simply
stopped working for no apparent reason. We are not alone and can only hope
that Microsoft will work on fixing this before we all get angry enough to
start flaming them everywhere about this defect in Outlook.
--
Spediteur


Jocelyn Fiorello said:
Ray, the thread you replied to is quite old. You might want to repost your
question in a new thread to get maximum exposure. (As you might have
imagined, I don't have any more insight on this particular issue, as I
haven't posted to the thread in nearly a month.)

--
Jocelyn Fiorello
MVP - Outlook

*** Messages sent to my e-mail address will NOT be answered -- please reply
only to the newsgroup to preserve the message thread. ***


Ray19 said:
I'm assuming that no solution to this problem is available? My situation
remains the same:
I continually receive the "Enter Network Password" Pop-up when receiving
e-mails. I have tried everything unsuccessfully to eliminate it including all
the steps of Knowledge Base Article 290684. I'm starting to believe this is
an inherent flaw in Outlook 2002?

I recently changed ISP's from Roadrunner, where I didn't have this problem,
to SBCYahoo where the problem surfaced. The only differecne I can discern
from the two providers is that SBC requires "outgoing server authentication"
while RR doesn't. I'm wondering if all those having the same problem are
using SBCYahoo or an ISP that requires "outgoing server authentication" and
if so, could this be part of the problem?

I am running Outlook 2002 (10.6515.6626) SP3 on Windows XP Professional.

Thanks, in advance, for any advice you can provide me.

Ray19
P.S. Does anyone know if this same problem exists on later versions of
Outlook other than 2002 and 2003? Its so disconcerting that I may consider
upgrading if there is no other solution.

,
ryion to this problem has beend ta there
--
Ray19


Jocelyn Fiorello said:
I am still investigating this issue and I will post back if I come up with
anything.

--
Jocelyn Fiorello
MVP - Outlook

*** Messages sent to my e-mail address will NOT be answered -- please reply
only to the newsgroup to preserve the message thread. ***


:

In the meantime, I did some testing. After following the instructions in
MSKB Article 290684, I noted that when I reset the passwords using the
control panel mail item, when I immediately re-entered the mail item the
passwords I just entered with save box ticked were again empty! Nothing is
saved! I am using Outlook Express for another email (non-default email
handler) and after deleting the PSSP sub-key I had to reenter the password
there - the 'save password' check box is shaded out and the password is
indeed saved. Likewise, certain IE user and password settings are again
saved after re-entry following the sub-key deletion. ONLY OUTLOOK 2003
SETTINGS ARE NOT RETAINED! After resetting permissions, an inspection of the
newly re-created subkeys of PSSP do not indicate any reference to Outlook,
although I can easily find Main Identity setting used by Outlook Express.
What is wrong that Outlook 2003 isw the only software which does not reset
its passwords and what is Microsoft doing about this?

Spedituer

--
Yesterday it worked
Today it is not working
Windows is like that.


In MSKB Article 290684 at "Resolution" it states "remove the user account
information from the Protected Storage System Provider SUBKEY" [emphasis
added]. Under the specific instructions for Windows XP, the article
further
states: "Do not remove the main Protected Storage System Provider key.
This
key is not automatically regenerated." My understanding of these
instructions
is to not delete the the key
"HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Protected
Storage System Provider" itself but only subkeys found below it. Detailed
instruction step 10 explains that only user subkeys below the main key
should
be deleted. This is what I did and the result was replacement of those
deleted subkeys with "HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Protected
Storage
System Provider\S-1-5-21-462910757-3317918806-3440040658-1007" showing
default values not set. So please explain what I have done incorrectly
and
how to resolve this problem. This is the reason I felt it necessary to go
to
a registry backup to find a good working copy of those missing subkeys.
In
any case, I cannot figure out how to do this since I cannot figure out how
to
edit or manipulate the restored registry data which I restored to a folder
on
an external hard drive.

Thanks
--
Spediteur


:

You said: "The Protected Storage System Provider Subkey that replaced the
one
I deleted shows only default values. What's supposed to be in there?"

The MSKB article #290684 says that if you are using Windows XP you should
delete the following key:

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Protected Storage System Provider

This is the key that I was told to tell you to delete. I am confused as
to
why you think you need to do a system restore at all...do you not have
that
key in your registry now?

--
Jocelyn Fiorello
MVP - Outlook

*** Messages sent to my e-mail address will NOT be answered -- please
reply
only to the newsgroup to preserve the message thread. ***


:

As I mentioned below, I have no idea what to expect if I restore System
State from Windows backup in a new folder. I have no idea how to even
direct Regedt32 to open a registry file located other than the default
location, or if I will be able to find the PSS key within the backed up
registry to be exported then merged into the current registry. I need
some
hand-holding here. Backup help is useless in this respect.

Thanks
Spediteur

"Jocelyn Fiorello [MVP - Outlook]"
Before you do any restores, here is what I got from a fellow MVP
about the
registry question you had in your earlier reply:

"The new key that is created will be empty until he starts saving
passwords
(and changes permissions to see the contents) - deleting the keys
removes
all
saved passwords for all apps. Deleting just the subkey for outlook
will
not
fix the problem - the entire PSS key needs to go."

Try that and post back to tell me whether or not that takes care of
the
problem.

--
Jocelyn Fiorello
MVP - Outlook

*** Messages sent to my e-mail address will NOT be answered -- please
reply
only to the newsgroup to preserve the message thread. ***


:

I found a Microsoft Backup system state backup file from about 10
days
ago.
I've never used this software to do a restore. It appears I can
restore
registry files to an alternative directory/folder. If I do so, will
I be
able to open that file with an editor to find the Protected Storage
System
Provide subkeys within it and create a .reg file to restore my
current
corrupted registry? My main concern in doing a restore is creating
some
other unexpected damage.
--
Eric Steinbock


:

I'm investigating this and will post back if I find any
information for
you.

--
Jocelyn Fiorello
MVP - Outlook

*** Messages sent to my e-mail address will NOT be answered --
please
reply
only to the newsgroup to preserve the message thread. ***


:

Yes, Q264672 is no longer available. In fact, it was rolled up
(consolidated) in Q290684 together with several other related
earlier
articles (it says so in Q298684). What was in the earlier
article
that isn't
in the current one?
--
I've tried everything I 've read everywhere and no solution to
be
found. The
Protected Storage System Provider Subkey that replaced the one I
deleted
shows only default values. What's supposed to be in there? I
don't
mind
hacking a little if someone would guide me. Apparently, there
are
several
other user group orphans in the Outlook headings who never got a
solution.


:

Well, normally I'd send you to a different article,
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=264672, which should work for
all
versions
of Outlook and Outlook Express running on Windows XP...but
wouldn't
you know
it, that article is unavailable right now. I don't know if
it's
coming back
or not.

--
Jocelyn Fiorello
MVP - Outlook

*** Messages sent to my e-mail address will NOT be answered --
please reply
only to the newsgroup to preserve the message thread. ***


:

I have followed several threads here and it took a while to
find
the current
KB article 290684. I followed those steps carefully and it
did
not work. I am
using Outlook 2003 under Win XP SP2 and it was working fine
until
last night.
I verified with my ISP that this is not a mail server error
on
their side.
The error message reports it as a syntax error. My ISP
requires
SMTP
authentication and that password is not being retained, or
if the
email
account screen shows something in the password box with the
save
password
ticked, it still doesn't work - the network password dialog
keeps
popping up
on every transmission - sometimes having to enter 2 or three
times to
get/send mail. How can I get off this merry-go-round?
 

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