Page Has Expired

[Josh]

When I hit back on some site it goes to a Page Has
Expired page. This used to not do it. I tried looking
for the answer on Microsoft.com and the answer saying to
uncheck, "save encrypted pages to disk" but that did not
work as it was already uncheck. I also tried checking it
applying it and then unchecking it and that did not
work. What else should I try. Thanks

Josh

 

[Jan Il]

Hi Josh

When I hit back on some site it goes to a Page Has
Expired page. This used to not do it. I tried looking
for the answer on Microsoft.com and the answer saying to
uncheck, "save encrypted pages to disk" but that did not
work as it was already uncheck. I also tried checking it
applying it and then unchecking it and that did not
work. What else should I try. Thanks

Try the following programs and see if they help. Be sure to UPDATE the
SpyBot and AdAware before running them, to be sure they have the latest
definitions.CWShredder: Free
http://tinyurl.com/2l9kl

SpyBot Search & Destroy: Free
http://download.com.com/3000-8022-10289035.html?tag=lst-0-2

IMPORTANT:
Before trying to remove spyware, download a copy of LSPFIX from
the URL below - some malware may kill your internet connection when it is
removed, this program will enable you to regain your connection.
http://www.cexx.org/lspfix.htm

AdAware: Free
http://www.lavasoftusa.com/support/download/

Hope this helps.

Jan

 

[Guest]

I have a spyware the updates its definitions all the time
and it does not help. It used to not do this but then it
started to happen again.

 

[Jan Il]

I have a spyware the updates its definitions all the time
and it does not help. It used to not do this but then it
started to happen again.

Try the following and see if it helps.

"Page has expired" error when using back button
http://inetexplorer.mvps.org/answers_10.htm#back


Hope this helps.

Jan

Smiles are meant to be shared,
that's why they're so contagious.

 

[*Vanguard*]

Josh said in news:[email protected]:

When I hit back on some site it goes to a Page Has
Expired page. This used to not do it. I tried looking
for the answer on Microsoft.com and the answer saying to
uncheck, "save encrypted pages to disk" but that did not
work as it was already uncheck. I also tried checking it
applying it and then unchecking it and that did not
work. What else should I try. Thanks

Josh

Could be the web author has changed the design to not allow backup to
the prior page. It requires a refresh of that page using submitted data
so you have to use their link [to move forward] to get back to that
page. There are also several techniques that web authors will use to
try to prevent users from backing up off their domain (i.e., go back to
another domain). I consider this rude but it happens a lot. For
example, at one time, I could go to http://www.intel.com/ and then
browse to http://www.comcast.net/ (my ISP) and then hit the Back button
but was stuck at the Comcast web site. I could click the Back button
twice in *very* rapid succession to move back to the prior domain but I
would lose my position in the prior domain's web page.

Got an example web page for us to look at?

 

[Jan Il]

Josh said in news:[email protected]:

When I hit back on some site it goes to a Page Has
Expired page. This used to not do it. I tried looking
for the answer on Microsoft.com and the answer saying to
uncheck, "save encrypted pages to disk" but that did not
work as it was already uncheck. I also tried checking it
applying it and then unchecking it and that did not
work. What else should I try. Thanks

Josh

Could be the web author has changed the design to not allow backup to
the prior page. It requires a refresh of that page using submitted
data so you have to use their link [to move forward] to get back to
that page. There are also several techniques that web authors will
use to try to prevent users from backing up off their domain (i.e.,
go back to another domain). I consider this rude but it happens a
lot. For example, at one time, I could go to http://www.intel.com/
and then browse to http://www.comcast.net/ (my ISP) and then hit the
Back button but was stuck at the Comcast web site. I could click the
Back button twice in *very* rapid succession to move back to the
prior domain but I would lose my position in the prior domain's web
page.

Got an example web page for us to look at?

I've noticed that even some of the more reputable sites are starting to use
that no Back ability tactic. *Most* irritating, when the only choice you
have to leave the site is to shut IE down completely. Talk about a captive
audience! :-((

Jan
Smiles are meant to be shared,
that's why they're so contagious.

 

[Robert Aldwinckle]

the only choice you have to leave the site is to shut IE down completely.

Jan,

Do you have an example of this? The only time that I notice something
remotely like this is when I accidently leave my proxy enabled for a site
which I know doesn't work properly through it. Even then I don't have
"to shut IE down completely" but I do have to close the window that has
the broken connection associated with it. MS Support and Google web
search pages are examples of sites which don't work properly through
my proxy.

The best way of dealing with sites which don't want you to use Back
is not to use Back. Launch the page in its own window. Then instead
of using Back just close the window. Typically that will put you back
in the original window with everything exactly the way you left it when
launching the new window. There are several other advantages of
this technique among them being that instead of closing the new window
you can also leave it open (e.g. so you can view otherwise non-cacheable
content offline.) Broadband users may not appreciate that last advantage
but dial-up users certainly might.


HTH

Robert Aldwinckle
---

Josh said in news:[email protected]:

When I hit back on some site it goes to a Page Has
Expired page. This used to not do it. I tried looking
for the answer on Microsoft.com and the answer saying to
uncheck, "save encrypted pages to disk" but that did not
work as it was already uncheck. I also tried checking it
applying it and then unchecking it and that did not
work. What else should I try. Thanks

Josh

Could be the web author has changed the design to not allow backup to
the prior page. It requires a refresh of that page using submitted
data so you have to use their link [to move forward] to get back to
that page. There are also several techniques that web authors will
use to try to prevent users from backing up off their domain (i.e.,
go back to another domain). I consider this rude but it happens a
lot. For example, at one time, I could go to http://www.intel.com/
and then browse to http://www.comcast.net/ (my ISP) and then hit the
Back button but was stuck at the Comcast web site. I could click the
Back button twice in *very* rapid succession to move back to the
prior domain but I would lose my position in the prior domain's web
page.

Got an example web page for us to look at?

I've noticed that even some of the more reputable sites are starting to use
that no Back ability tactic. *Most* irritating, when the only choice you
have to leave the site is to shut IE down completely. Talk about a captive
audience! :-((

Jan
Smiles are meant to be shared,
that's why they're so contagious.

 

[Jan Il]

Hi Robert

Jan,

Do you have an example of this? The only time that I notice
something remotely like this is when I accidently leave my proxy
enabled for a site which I know doesn't work properly through it.
Even then I don't have "to shut IE down completely" but I do have to
close the window that has the broken connection associated with it.
MS Support and Google web search pages are examples of sites which
don't work properly through my proxy.

I don't have one at the tips of my fingers, but, yesterday as I was
researching for a problem here, I opened a source page, that gave a link to
another page and when I went the other page and did not find what I wanted,
I tried to use the back button, no go, it just kept giving me the existing
page. Then I tried to select a site from my Fav's sidebar, and it just kept
giving me that same page. There was no way out of it but to close down IE.
This has happened several times, and even with some sites that once were not
this way. I am in graphic artists, and I do research for specific types of
clipart and photos on the web, and even some of the sites that did not do
this now are doing it. It's not just my computer, it happens from my work
computer as well. I work for a electrified light rail transit system, and I
do a lot of graphic arts work in my job there as well, so research is a
thing I do a lot of. But, when I run across another site that does this I
will make a note of it for sure.

The best way of dealing with sites which don't want you to use Back
is not to use Back. Launch the page in its own window. Then
instead of using Back just close the window. Typically that will
put you back in the original window with everything exactly the way
you left it when launching the new window. There are several other
advantages of
this technique among them being that instead of closing the new window
you can also leave it open (e.g. so you can view otherwise
non-cacheable content offline.) Broadband users may not appreciate
that last advantage but dial-up users certainly might.

I have broadband, but, in cases such as this, I would appreciate anything
that would prevent this kind of activity. I try your suggestion of opening
it in a separate page. But, you just never know when it will happen, that
is how they get you. The naughty buggers!

Jan

Smiles are meant to be shared,
that's why they're so contagious.

Please reply to the newsgroup so others may benefit.

Josh said in When I hit back on some site it goes to a Page Has
Expired page. This used to not do it. I tried looking
for the answer on Microsoft.com and the answer saying to
uncheck, "save encrypted pages to disk" but that did not
work as it was already uncheck. I also tried checking it
applying it and then unchecking it and that did not
work. What else should I try. Thanks

Josh

Could be the web author has changed the design to not allow backup
to the prior page. It requires a refresh of that page using
submitted data so you have to use their link [to move forward] to
get back to that page. There are also several techniques that web
authors will use to try to prevent users from backing up off their
domain (i.e., go back to another domain). I consider this rude but
it happens a lot. For example, at one time, I could go to
http://www.intel.com/ and then browse to http://www.comcast.net/
(my ISP) and then hit the Back button but was stuck at the Comcast
web site. I could click the Back button twice in *very* rapid
succession to move back to the prior domain but I would lose my
position in the prior domain's web page.

Got an example web page for us to look at?

I've noticed that even some of the more reputable sites are starting
to use that no Back ability tactic. *Most* irritating, when the
only choice you have to leave the site is to shut IE down
completely. Talk about a captive audience! :-((

Jan
Smiles are meant to be shared,
that's why they're so contagious.

 

[Robert Aldwinckle]

I tried to use the back button, no go, it just kept giving me the existing

page.

I don't think that's what we're discussing. It's just the page doing a redirect
using META Refresh or Javascript. There are two ways of dealing with it.
If the count is non-zero you should be able to press Esc (aka click Stop)
to prevent the redirect. Or you can go into the Security tab and disable it.
However, if you leave it disabled be prepared to use your View Source
occasionally in order to capture the URLs manually (i.e., select and copy
to Clipboard from a Notepad window) and then paste and click Go
to continue. Often there will be absolutely no clue that this condition
is in effect. I have seen it with completely blank screens. Javascript
implementations can be further confusing because there may be no simple
URL available for copying; for that matter the script source doesn't even
necessarily have to be visible in the View Source.

The simplest way to deal with that state is just forgo the use of the Back
button and use the View Go To menu (or the Back button's list) and skip
one entry to get past the page which is causing the redirect.


HTH

Robert
---

Hi Robert

Jan,

Do you have an example of this? The only time that I notice
something remotely like this is when I accidently leave my proxy
enabled for a site which I know doesn't work properly through it.
Even then I don't have "to shut IE down completely" but I do have to
close the window that has the broken connection associated with it.
MS Support and Google web search pages are examples of sites which
don't work properly through my proxy.

I don't have one at the tips of my fingers, but, yesterday as I was
researching for a problem here, I opened a source page, that gave a link to
another page and when I went the other page and did not find what I wanted,
I tried to use the back button, no go, it just kept giving me the existing
page. Then I tried to select a site from my Fav's sidebar, and it just kept
giving me that same page. There was no way out of it but to close down IE.
This has happened several times, and even with some sites that once were not
this way. I am in graphic artists, and I do research for specific types of
clipart and photos on the web, and even some of the sites that did not do
this now are doing it. It's not just my computer, it happens from my work
computer as well. I work for a electrified light rail transit system, and I
do a lot of graphic arts work in my job there as well, so research is a
thing I do a lot of. But, when I run across another site that does this I
will make a note of it for sure.

The best way of dealing with sites which don't want you to use Back
is not to use Back. Launch the page in its own window. Then
instead of using Back just close the window. Typically that will
put you back in the original window with everything exactly the way
you left it when launching the new window. There are several other
advantages of
this technique among them being that instead of closing the new window
you can also leave it open (e.g. so you can view otherwise
non-cacheable content offline.) Broadband users may not appreciate
that last advantage but dial-up users certainly might.

I have broadband, but, in cases such as this, I would appreciate anything
that would prevent this kind of activity. I try your suggestion of opening
it in a separate page. But, you just never know when it will happen, that
is how they get you. The naughty buggers!

Jan

Smiles are meant to be shared,
that's why they're so contagious.

Please reply to the newsgroup so others may benefit.

*Vanguard* wrote:
Josh said in When I hit back on some site it goes to a Page Has
Expired page. This used to not do it. I tried looking
for the answer on Microsoft.com and the answer saying to
uncheck, "save encrypted pages to disk" but that did not
work as it was already uncheck. I also tried checking it
applying it and then unchecking it and that did not
work. What else should I try. Thanks

Josh

Could be the web author has changed the design to not allow backup
to the prior page. It requires a refresh of that page using
submitted data so you have to use their link [to move forward] to
get back to that page. There are also several techniques that web
authors will use to try to prevent users from backing up off their
domain (i.e., go back to another domain). I consider this rude but
it happens a lot. For example, at one time, I could go to
http://www.intel.com/ and then browse to http://www.comcast.net/
(my ISP) and then hit the Back button but was stuck at the Comcast
web site. I could click the Back button twice in *very* rapid
succession to move back to the prior domain but I would lose my
position in the prior domain's web page.

Got an example web page for us to look at?

I've noticed that even some of the more reputable sites are starting
to use that no Back ability tactic. *Most* irritating, when the
only choice you have to leave the site is to shut IE down
completely. Talk about a captive audience! :-((

Jan
Smiles are meant to be shared,
that's why they're so contagious.

 

[Jan Il]

Hi Robert

I don't think that's what we're discussing. It's just the page
doing a redirect using META Refresh or Javascript. There are two
ways of dealing with it.
If the count is non-zero you should be able to press Esc (aka click
Stop)
to prevent the redirect. Or you can go into the Security tab and
disable it. However, if you leave it disabled be prepared to use your
View Source occasionally in order to capture the URLs manually (i.e.,
select and copy
to Clipboard from a Notepad window) and then paste and click Go
to continue. Often there will be absolutely no clue that this
condition
is in effect. I have seen it with completely blank screens.
Javascript implementations can be further confusing because there may
be no simple
URL available for copying; for that matter the script source doesn't
even necessarily have to be visible in the View Source.

The simplest way to deal with that state is just forgo the use of the
Back button and use the View Go To menu (or the Back button's list)
and skip
one entry to get past the page which is causing the redirect.

Ahh..I see. I will try your suggestion the next time I run into this sort
of situation. It is a very irritating thing to get trapped by these sites,
that somehow block the back button from working, or whatever they do. Many
times I have found it happens when you have been given a link in one site,
and when you go to the other, then everything else is no longer accessible
using the back button. This is when I have selected a site when on a search,
and it is like a forum, and they provide a link to the poster in that forum,
to some other information. Then it seems to just block everything else.

Thank you very much for the additional information on this situation. I
truly do appreciate it.

Jan

Smiles are meant to be shared,
that's why they're so contagious

Hi Robert

the only choice you have to leave the site is to shut IE down
completely.

Jan,

Do you have an example of this? The only time that I notice
something remotely like this is when I accidently leave my proxy
enabled for a site which I know doesn't work properly through it.
Even then I don't have "to shut IE down completely" but I do have to
close the window that has the broken connection associated with it.
MS Support and Google web search pages are examples of sites which
don't work properly through my proxy.

I don't have one at the tips of my fingers, but, yesterday as I was
researching for a problem here, I opened a source page, that gave a
link to another page and when I went the other page and did not find
what I wanted, I tried to use the back button, no go, it just kept
giving me the existing page. Then I tried to select a site from my
Fav's sidebar, and it just kept giving me that same page. There was
no way out of it but to close down IE. This has happened several
times, and even with some sites that once were not this way. I am
in graphic artists, and I do research for specific types of clipart
and photos on the web, and even some of the sites that did not do
this now are doing it. It's not just my computer, it happens from
my work computer as well. I work for a electrified light rail
transit system, and I do a lot of graphic arts work in my job there
as well, so research is a thing I do a lot of. But, when I run
across another site that does this I will make a note of it for
sure.

The best way of dealing with sites which don't want you to use Back
is not to use Back. Launch the page in its own window. Then
instead of using Back just close the window. Typically that will
put you back in the original window with everything exactly the way
you left it when launching the new window. There are several other
advantages of
this technique among them being that instead of closing the new
window you can also leave it open (e.g. so you can view otherwise
non-cacheable content offline.) Broadband users may not appreciate
that last advantage but dial-up users certainly might.

I have broadband, but, in cases such as this, I would appreciate
anything that would prevent this kind of activity. I try your
suggestion of opening it in a separate page. But, you just never
know when it will happen, that is how they get you. The naughty
buggers!

Jan

Smiles are meant to be shared,
that's why they're so contagious.

Please reply to the newsgroup so others may benefit.

*Vanguard* wrote:
Josh said in When I hit back on some site it goes to a Page Has
Expired page. This used to not do it. I tried looking
for the answer on Microsoft.com and the answer saying to
uncheck, "save encrypted pages to disk" but that did not
work as it was already uncheck. I also tried checking it
applying it and then unchecking it and that did not
work. What else should I try. Thanks

Josh

Could be the web author has changed the design to not allow backup
to the prior page. It requires a refresh of that page using
submitted data so you have to use their link [to move forward] to
get back to that page. There are also several techniques that web
authors will use to try to prevent users from backing up off their
domain (i.e., go back to another domain). I consider this rude
but it happens a lot. For example, at one time, I could go to
http://www.intel.com/ and then browse to http://www.comcast.net/
(my ISP) and then hit the Back button but was stuck at the
Comcast web site. I could click the Back button twice in *very*
rapid succession to move back to the prior domain but I would
lose my position in the prior domain's web page.

Got an example web page for us to look at?

I've noticed that even some of the more reputable sites are
starting to use that no Back ability tactic. *Most* irritating,
when the only choice you have to leave the site is to shut IE down
completely. Talk about a captive audience! :-((

Jan
Smiles are meant to be shared,
that's why they're so contagious.

 

[Robert Aldwinckle]

Hi Robert
....
Ahh..I see. I will try your suggestion the next time I run into this sort
of situation. It is a very irritating thing to get trapped by these sites,
that somehow block the back button from working, or whatever they do. Many
times I have found it happens when you have been given a link in one site,
and when you go to the other, then everything else is no longer accessible
using the back button. This is when I have selected a site when on a search,
and it is like a forum, and they provide a link to the poster in that forum,
to some other information. Then it seems to just block everything else.

Yes. That's another case. I'm not sure how that is done. I think that
there is an API for the use of the Browser stack which may flush it.
That is then probably the best reason to use that first technique I mentioned
of opening a link in a new window. Either press Shift and click
or right-click and choose Open in New Window.

Thank you very much for the additional information on this situation. I
truly do appreciate it.

You're welcome.


Robert
---

 

[Jan Il]

Yes. That's another case. I'm not sure how that is done. I
think that there is an API for the use of the Browser stack which may
flush it.
That is then probably the best reason to use that first technique I
mentioned of opening a link in a new window. Either press Shift and
click
or right-click and choose Open in New Window.

Thank you, I'll use that method from now on. It will at least save my
nerves. <g>

Jan