P4C800 raid sucks.

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Clif

I like this board (P4 3.2, 1 g 3200 ram, 4-80gig HD's) but the raid setup
with atat133 in the Promise as master/slave combo sucks. I knew it would set
up that way so I ordered a couple pata/sata adapters from newegg and will
try that when they get here, but the the same drives set up correctly on the
Iwill board with onboard highpoint raid blows this out of the water. Hope
the adapters solve the prob. Anyone out there set it up with 1 pata drive as
master and one sata drive as master and then set up raid 0? benchmarks?
 
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Roger Zoul

Clif wrote:
:: I like this board (P4 3.2, 1 g 3200 ram, 4-80gig HD's) but the raid
:: setup with atat133 in the Promise as master/slave combo sucks. I
:: knew it would set up that way so I ordered a couple pata/sata
:: adapters from newegg and will try that when they get here, but the
:: the same drives set up correctly on the Iwill board with onboard
:: highpoint raid blows this out of the water. Hope the adapters solve
:: the prob. Anyone out there set it up with 1 pata drive as master and
:: one sata drive as master and then set up raid 0? benchmarks?

Well, any RAID AFAIK would such if you use master/slave on the same channel.
You don't have to do that.....it would have been better had they put a
second IDE raid channel, however.
 
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jaeger

I like this board (P4 3.2, 1 g 3200 ram, 4-80gig HD's) but the raid setup
with atat133 in the Promise as master/slave combo sucks.

Both drives on the same cable? That will ALWAYS suck, and you should
never do it.
 
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David H. Lipman

If you REALLY want RAID. You would obtain an Ultra 320 RAID SCSI controller and multiple
Ultra 320 SCSI disks.

You would not be disappointed in the performance and the fault tolerance. The price is the
only deficit.

Dave

| I like this board (P4 3.2, 1 g 3200 ram, 4-80gig HD's) but the raid setup
| with atat133 in the Promise as master/slave combo sucks. I knew it would set
| up that way so I ordered a couple pata/sata adapters from newegg and will
| try that when they get here, but the the same drives set up correctly on the
| Iwill board with onboard highpoint raid blows this out of the water. Hope
| the adapters solve the prob. Anyone out there set it up with 1 pata drive as
| master and one sata drive as master and then set up raid 0? benchmarks?
|
|
 
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David H. Lipman

Is that like some sort of code ?

Is there a statement or question in the below ?

What does it mean ????

Dave

| What scores are you getting have you ran ATTO post your scores
 
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jaeger

Is that like some sort of code ?

Is there a statement or question in the below ?

What does it mean ????

I think it means that the American educational system has finally hit
bottom.

"What scores are you getting have you ran ATTO post your scores"

Good lord, we're raising a generation of sub-literates.
 
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Steve

Ok, I will agree that I was in a hurry when I posted that question. I will
try not to be so lazy next time. By the way I had already graduated high
school when MTV came out, So if anything you can think L.S.D or my parents
:)
 
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God

Clif said:
I like this board (P4 3.2, 1 g 3200 ram, 4-80gig HD's) but the raid setup
with atat133 in the Promise as master/slave combo sucks. I knew it would
set

DON'T...

if you connect two drives on the same controller as master/slave, you won't
be able to use the drives at the same time (it's one or the other that can
read/write)...

BIG MAJOR performance hit...

We're talking IDE here, not SCSI...

if you want to raid 4 drives , get a 4 port controller (Promise, 3Ware,
etc...)
 
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Clif

Yeah, I know. I just want to raid 2 of the drives. I was hoping someone else
had already done a pata-sata raid and could tell me how much difference it
made.
 
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R. Pazderski

Clif,

Out curosity, what method or benchmark did you use to get the numbers for
the on-board Promise controller setup in a Master / Slave Relationship with
a Stripe 0 Configuration. I want to measure the performance hit against a
(REAL) Master / Master Stripe 0 Configuration on a Promise Controller Card.

It would have been nice if Asus had included a bit more features with the
Promise on-board controller until SATA becomes less expensive. Bios
1011ED.002 Beta appears to offer Raid 0+1 now on the Intel SATA drive ports.
From my readings, the operative word here is "appears" as I could have
misinterpreted the Bios changes.

Regards,

Rick P.
P4C800-E/Deluxe
===========================>>>>>
Yeah, I know. I just want to raid 2 of the drives. I was hoping someone else
had already done a pata-sata raid and could tell me how much difference it
made.
 
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Clif

I've used HDtach for a long time so I still use it just as a comparison
basis. I also use atto. I'm seriously thinking about a highpoint raid card
right now depending on how the pata/sata cable hook-up works. Supposed to
have them Thursday. But from past experience the highpoint raid seems to be
faster than promise.
 
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Steve

I guess I have done everything wrong according to all here. I have an ASUS
p4c800-E deluxe using two
Western Digital se 80 gig drives configured as master and slave on the
promise p-ata raid 0. 16k stripe
I get from Atto
32/10 settings 73894 write 60345 read
PCmark 1453
I ordered a p-ata s-ata dongle from New Egg. and will set up both drives
as master on single channels and see if there is a big difference..

From what I have seen these scores aren't that bad
 
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Clif

My scores on the Atto bench don't look that bad either, but going by HDtach
which I have numbers saved from running XP pro but on an Iwill board with
the onboard Highpoint raid and the exact same drives, the scores are
considerably lower.
 
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Cadfael

Clif said:
Bought a good aluminum case a year ago with a Enermax 450w power supply.
Never going back. I just installed Norton 2003 performance test and these
are the results:

Sequential read: 76.6
Sequential write: 60.7
Random seek + rw: 4.4
DiskMark: 374.1
PassMark:74.8

Never thought to use this before so have no idea if these numbers are
reliable.

I thought my scores were good until I looked at yours.
 

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