OT: Firefox Buggier than IE: Which is Safer?

T

Thomas A. Rowe

http://www.esecurityplanet.com/prevention/article.php/3550746

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If you feel your current issue is a results of installing
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M

Mettá

Well now, as a user of both does that mean I am twice as vulnerable!

Of course attackers will generally go for the most widely used software,
won't they!?!?!?

M
 
K

Kevin Spencer

The article makes at least one good point: Microsoft is constantly being
accused of security vulnerabilites of various types, but when you compare
their software the competition, it comes out about the same or better, in
almost all areas. The Windows OS, in particular, is probably the most secure
OS in the world.

It's like Winston Churchill once said: "Democracy is the worst form of
gevernment. Except for all the other forms that have been tried."

--
;-),

Kevin Spencer
Microsoft MVP
..Net Developer
Big things are made up of
lots of little things.
 
M

Murray

He also said to Lady Astor who told him he was drunk -

"I'll be sober in the morning, but you will still be ugly!"
 
C

clintonG

Winston Churchill was a fat evil bastard who had tens of thousands of
Indians beaten. Many men, women and children were murdered out right as he
attempted to force India to become submissive to British colonization.
Surely you guys have heard of a guy named Mohatma Ghandi? Who do you think
Ghandi opposed and why? Hello?

It was only the efforts of the courageous Adolph Hitler who interrupted
Britian's acts of terror and tyrrany and for damn good reason. Most of us
think and believe we know what happened during that era but I ask you both
to consider that it is the victor that writes history.

The governments of the US, Britain, and the Zionist Jews are evil and serve
Satan (literally with more on this later if you want real proof). Most of
the people of these nations are gleefully involved and think what I just
said is nonsense. It is our own people in the US, the so-called heros
supposedly fighting for freedom in Iraq that are evil or tacitly agree to
serve evil. Their goal is to force the people of the world to come under the
rule of one world government which will serve an anti-christ which will rule
the world from Jerusalem. You've heard about this I am sure.

Its never to late to wake up and the first thing I would ask is you both at
least wake up about Winston Churchill and stop honoring his fat evil @ss.
He's the wrong guy you want to emulate in any context.

<%= Clinton Gallagher
METROmilwaukee (sm) "A Regional Information Service"
NET csgallagher AT metromilwaukee.com
URL http://metromilwaukee.com/
URL http://clintongallagher.metromilwaukee.com/
 
R

Rob Giordano \(Crash\)

Werld History According to Clinton?
Courageous Hitler?

Clinton's gone over the edge.


| Good grief. Clinton, get a grip....
|
| --
| Murray
| ============
|
| | > Winston Churchill was a fat evil bastard who had tens of thousands of
| > Indians beaten. Many men, women and children were murdered out right as
he
| > attempted to force India to become submissive to British colonization.
| > Surely you guys have heard of a guy named Mohatma Ghandi? Who do you
think
| > Ghandi opposed and why? Hello?
| >
| > It was only the efforts of the courageous Adolph Hitler who interrupted
| > Britian's acts of terror and tyrrany and for damn good reason. Most of
us
| > think and believe we know what happened during that era but I ask you
both
| > to consider that it is the victor that writes history.
| >
| > The governments of the US, Britain, and the Zionist Jews are evil and
| > serve Satan (literally with more on this later if you want real proof).
| > Most of the people of these nations are gleefully involved and think
what
| > I just said is nonsense. It is our own people in the US, the so-called
| > heros supposedly fighting for freedom in Iraq that are evil or tacitly
| > agree to serve evil. Their goal is to force the people of the world to
| > come under the rule of one world government which will serve an
| > anti-christ which will rule the world from Jerusalem. You've heard about
| > this I am sure.
| >
| > Its never to late to wake up and the first thing I would ask is you both
| > at least wake up about Winston Churchill and stop honoring his fat evil
| > @ss. He's the wrong guy you want to emulate in any context.
| >
| > <%= Clinton Gallagher
| > METROmilwaukee (sm) "A Regional Information Service"
| > NET csgallagher AT metromilwaukee.com
| > URL http://metromilwaukee.com/
| > URL http://clintongallagher.metromilwaukee.com/
| >
| >
| >
| >
| >
| > | >> He also said to Lady Astor who told him he was drunk -
| >>
| >> "I'll be sober in the morning, but you will still be ugly!"
| >>
| >> --
| >> Murray
| >> ============
| >>
| >> | >>> The article makes at least one good point: Microsoft is constantly
being
| >>> accused of security vulnerabilites of various types, but when you
| >>> compare their software the competition, it comes out about the same or
| >>> better, in almost all areas. The Windows OS, in particular, is
probably
| >>> the most secure OS in the world.
| >>>
| >>> It's like Winston Churchill once said: "Democracy is the worst form of
| >>> gevernment. Except for all the other forms that have been tried."
| >>>
| >>> --
| >>> ;-),
| >>>
| >>> Kevin Spencer
| >>> Microsoft MVP
| >>> .Net Developer
| >>> Big things are made up of
| >>> lots of little things.
| >>>
| >>> | >>>> The one that's currently not under attack?
| >>>>
| >>>> --
| >>>> Murray
| >>>> ============
| >>>>
| >>>> | >>>>> http://www.esecurityplanet.com/prevention/article.php/3550746
| >>>>>
| >>>>> --
| >>>>> ==============================================
| >>>>> Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
| >>>>> ==============================================
| >>>>> If you feel your current issue is a results of installing
| >>>>> a Service Pack or security update, please contact
| >>>>> Microsoft Product Support Services:
| >>>>> http://support.microsoft.com
| >>>>> If the problem can be shown to have been caused by a
| >>>>> security update, then there is usually no charge for the call.
| >>>>> ==============================================
| >>>>>
| >>>>>
| >>>>>
| >>>>
| >>>>
| >>>
| >>>
| >>
| >>
| >
| >
|
|
 
U

Uncle Joe

Yes, Churchill had his faults but without his leadership,
and without the America army, air force, and navy,
Britain and Western Europe would be under Nazi
domination to this day.

Courageous Adolph Hitler?!!! Clinton, you have
completely gone off the deep end. Yes, History
is written by the victors, but Hitler was so proud
of his legacy that he had most of his atrocities
photographed and/or filmed. He left us a rich
treasure of historical evidence proving what he
and the Third Reich were really about.

Have you ever visited the Auschwitz concentration
camp? I have. Your courageous Adolph Hitler
killed over six million in such camps. This doesn't
include the millions he killed in Poland, Russia,
and the Balkans. He killed bishops, priests,
nuns, preachers, mayors, professors, and doctors,
among many others. He had people killed or
imprisoned simply because they wore glasses and
were therefore assumed to be part of the intelligentsia.

Have you ever walked the beaches of Normandy
and witnessed the debris of war, where over
4,000 of our soldiers died trying to breach the
"walls" of courageous Adolph Hitler's western
front on D-Day? I have. Have you toured the
American and British cemeteries of Normandy?
It might be enlightening for you. Those men
gave their lives for freedom. And with Freedom
comes responsibility. Freedom is not free. One
must be willing to defend and promote it.

You may consider American soldiers--then and
now--evil but the irrefutable truth is that they
freed Europe, Africa, and the nations and
islands of the Pacific from tyranny. And
although I've turned against the Iraqi war, we
are accomplishing good things there: schools,
sewer systems, transportation, governmental
reforms and so forth.

There is not a single socially-redeeming thing
about courageous Adolph Hitler and his
regime. Do you seriously think that had
Hitler conquered Western Europe, and turned
his attentions to India, that he would have
embraced the Indian nation? Not a chance.
He would have killed hundred of millions of
Indians. If people were not Aryan and part
of the Master Race, they were dispatched.
Pure and simple.

I'd be the last to defend British colonial rule in
India and other nations. My father was the
American harbormaster of Dacca, India.
during World War II. The stories he told
of Indian life would almost reduce him to tears.
There was one caste that was so low that
they were banned the use of fire, on pain
of death. This was enforced by other
Indians, not the British. People starved to
death on sidewalks while British and
American officers were treated like Gods.
But Hitler had absolutely nothing to do
with freeing the Indian People. Britain was
so weakened by World War II that it
couldn't maintain/afford its colonial rule.
 
C

clintonG

See what I mean. You got it all figured out.

Lets do a fer instance.

Fer instance, ever watch the History Channel?
Ever hear an older German being interviewed on the History Channel asked why
the Germans did such terrible things to the Jews? What was the answer?

The answer is ALWAYS one of the three and only one of the three: "because of
what the Jews did to the German people before, during, and after WWI."

Ooopsie Daisy. The Holocaust Channel is apparently owned and controlled by
Zionist Jews so here's the hook...

What did the Jews do to the German people before, during and after WWI?

Silence, Repression of Inquiry, Plausible Deniability, Silence, Repression
of Inquiry, Plausible Deniability, Silence, Repression of Inquiry, Plausible
Deniability, Silence, Repression of Inquiry, Plausible Deniability, Silence,
Repression of Inquiry, Plausible Deniability, Silence, Repression of
Inquiry, Plausible Deniability, Silence, Repression of Inquiry, Plausible
Deniability, Silence, Repression of Inquiry, Plausible Deniability, Silence,
Repression of Inquiry, Plausible Deniability, Silence, Repression of
Inquiry, Plausible Deniability, and you should all become aware of something
in this regard.

At this very moment the traitorous pigs in the US Congress are supporting
the Jewish Mossad in the Bush cabinet and administration who are about to
pass a so-called hate crimes law [1] that will end free speech in America as
it has throughout Europe, Australia and Canada where the Jews have made the
use and discussion of the Christian Bible a crime and have begun putting
people into prison again for egregious crimes such as discussing the
revelation of documents that alleged to prove certain Jewish allegations
regarding WWII have been false or Chrisitans preaching homosexuality is
wrong or simply proselytizing for which the Jewish Satanists will imprison
anybody caught doing so.

Within a year or so none of us will be allowed to discuss these topics or
one or more of us can very well likely be sent to prison just like the
Germans tried to tell the world the Jews were doing (and more) before,
during, and after WWI.

The truth becomes hate for those that hate the truth and the truth is
Churchill and other Zionist Jews of that era were persecuting many peoples
for a long time; terror, tyrrany, beatings, murders, economic deprivation,
the whole nine yards so yes, in a manner of speaking Adolph Hitler was
courageous to defy those who we have been told were the good guys.

Ghandi chose to sit on his @ss and get his skull cracked open while his
fellow women and children were raped and murdered by Churchill's soldiers
while Hitler decided to fight back and try to kill every one of the
mother*ckers he could get his hands on.

The crescendo is building once again and as before few will care to pay
attention or simply can not hear the music.

<%= Clinton Gallagher
METROmilwaukee (sm) "A Regional Information Service"
NET csgallagher AT metromilwaukee.com
URL http://metromilwaukee.com/
URL http://clintongallagher.metromilwaukee.com/

[1] http://truthtellers.org/
 
C

Craig Schiller

I think you should follow Huey Lewis' suggestion and try to find a new drug. The
old one(s) are clearly not doing the job.

Craig
See what I mean. You got it all figured out.

Lets do a fer instance.

Fer instance, ever watch the History Channel?
Ever hear an older German being interviewed on the History Channel asked why
the Germans did such terrible things to the Jews? What was the answer?

The answer is ALWAYS one of the three and only one of the three: "because of
what the Jews did to the German people before, during, and after WWI."

Ooopsie Daisy. The Holocaust Channel is apparently owned and controlled by
Zionist Jews so here's the hook...

What did the Jews do to the German people before, during and after WWI?

Silence, Repression of Inquiry, Plausible Deniability, Silence, Repression
of Inquiry, Plausible Deniability, Silence, Repression of Inquiry, Plausible
Deniability, Silence, Repression of Inquiry, Plausible Deniability, Silence,
Repression of Inquiry, Plausible Deniability, Silence, Repression of
Inquiry, Plausible Deniability, Silence, Repression of Inquiry, Plausible
Deniability, Silence, Repression of Inquiry, Plausible Deniability, Silence,
Repression of Inquiry, Plausible Deniability, Silence, Repression of
Inquiry, Plausible Deniability, and you should all become aware of something
in this regard.

At this very moment the traitorous pigs in the US Congress are supporting
the Jewish Mossad in the Bush cabinet and administration who are about to
pass a so-called hate crimes law [1] that will end free speech in America as
it has throughout Europe, Australia and Canada where the Jews have made the
use and discussion of the Christian Bible a crime and have begun putting
people into prison again for egregious crimes such as discussing the
revelation of documents that alleged to prove certain Jewish allegations
regarding WWII have been false or Chrisitans preaching homosexuality is
wrong or simply proselytizing for which the Jewish Satanists will imprison
anybody caught doing so.

Within a year or so none of us will be allowed to discuss these topics or
one or more of us can very well likely be sent to prison just like the
Germans tried to tell the world the Jews were doing (and more) before,
during, and after WWI.

The truth becomes hate for those that hate the truth and the truth is
Churchill and other Zionist Jews of that era were persecuting many peoples
for a long time; terror, tyrrany, beatings, murders, economic deprivation,
the whole nine yards so yes, in a manner of speaking Adolph Hitler was
courageous to defy those who we have been told were the good guys.

Ghandi chose to sit on his @ss and get his skull cracked open while his
fellow women and children were raped and murdered by Churchill's soldiers
while Hitler decided to fight back and try to kill every one of the
mother*ckers he could get his hands on.

The crescendo is building once again and as before few will care to pay
attention or simply can not hear the music.

<%= Clinton Gallagher
METROmilwaukee (sm) "A Regional Information Service"
NET csgallagher AT metromilwaukee.com
URL http://metromilwaukee.com/
URL http://clintongallagher.metromilwaukee.com/

[1] http://truthtellers.org/

Rob Giordano (Crash) said:
Werld History According to Clinton?
Courageous Hitler?

Clinton's gone over the edge.


| Good grief. Clinton, get a grip....
|
| --
| Murray
| ============
|
message
| | > Winston Churchill was a fat evil bastard who had tens of thousands of
| > Indians beaten. Many men, women and children were murdered out right
as
he
| > attempted to force India to become submissive to British colonization.
| > Surely you guys have heard of a guy named Mohatma Ghandi? Who do you
think
| > Ghandi opposed and why? Hello?
| >
| > It was only the efforts of the courageous Adolph Hitler who
interrupted
| > Britian's acts of terror and tyrrany and for damn good reason. Most of
us
| > think and believe we know what happened during that era but I ask you
both
| > to consider that it is the victor that writes history.
| >
| > The governments of the US, Britain, and the Zionist Jews are evil and
| > serve Satan (literally with more on this later if you want real
proof).
| > Most of the people of these nations are gleefully involved and think
what
| > I just said is nonsense. It is our own people in the US, the so-called
| > heros supposedly fighting for freedom in Iraq that are evil or tacitly
| > agree to serve evil. Their goal is to force the people of the world to
| > come under the rule of one world government which will serve an
| > anti-christ which will rule the world from Jerusalem. You've heard
about
| > this I am sure.
| >
| > Its never to late to wake up and the first thing I would ask is you
both
| > at least wake up about Winston Churchill and stop honoring his fat
evil
| > @ss. He's the wrong guy you want to emulate in any context.
| >
| > <%= Clinton Gallagher
| > METROmilwaukee (sm) "A Regional Information Service"
| > NET csgallagher AT metromilwaukee.com
| > URL http://metromilwaukee.com/
| > URL http://clintongallagher.metromilwaukee.com/
| >
| >
| >
| >
| >
| > | >> He also said to Lady Astor who told him he was drunk -
| >>
| >> "I'll be sober in the morning, but you will still be ugly!"
| >>
| >> --
| >> Murray
| >> ============
| >>
| >> | >>> The article makes at least one good point: Microsoft is constantly
being
| >>> accused of security vulnerabilites of various types, but when you
| >>> compare their software the competition, it comes out about the same
or
| >>> better, in almost all areas. The Windows OS, in particular, is
probably
| >>> the most secure OS in the world.
| >>>
| >>> It's like Winston Churchill once said: "Democracy is the worst form
of
| >>> gevernment. Except for all the other forms that have been tried."
| >>>
| >>> --
| >>> ;-),
| >>>
| >>> Kevin Spencer
| >>> Microsoft MVP
| >>> .Net Developer
| >>> Big things are made up of
| >>> lots of little things.
| >>>
| >>> | >>>> The one that's currently not under attack?
| >>>>
| >>>> --
| >>>> Murray
| >>>> ============
| >>>>
| >>>> | >>>>> http://www.esecurityplanet.com/prevention/article.php/3550746
| >>>>>
| >>>>> --
| >>>>> ==============================================
| >>>>> Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
| >>>>> ==============================================
| >>>>> If you feel your current issue is a results of installing
| >>>>> a Service Pack or security update, please contact
| >>>>> Microsoft Product Support Services:
| >>>>> http://support.microsoft.com
| >>>>> If the problem can be shown to have been caused by a
| >>>>> security update, then there is usually no charge for the call.
| >>>>> ==============================================
| >>>>>
| >>>>>
| >>>>>
| >>>>
| >>>>
| >>>
| >>>
| >>
| >>
| >
| >
|
|
 
C

clintonG

No, I've never been anywhere. I've learned practically everything I think I
know watching "Saving Pvt. Ryan" on TV and watching the Holocaust Channel
but I have actually read a few books here and there and have heard many
personal testimonies thanks to the Internet and streaming audio so I am at a
loss in this regard but note nowhere did I say or even imply US soldiers
were evil to oppose and defeat Hitler. All I am saying is he was courageous
to fight against tyrrany and terror which we all know he himself adopted in
his attempt to prevail.

So why is it then you apologize for Churchill by stating "Yes, Churchill had
his faults ..." when we know he too conducted his affairs the same way but
not afford the same to contemporary evil in the guise of men such as Hitler,
Hussein, Bush Crime Family, Blair, Sharon and others? Do you confuse courage
with morality?

Was buring to death hundreds of thousands of "bishops, priests, nuns,
preachers, mayors, professors, and doctors" as well as women, children the
aged and infirm living in Dresden what you call Churchill's leadership?
Do I dare ask you to justify Hiroshima and Nagasaki? The facts are all of
them were evil or are soon driven to evil.

As I understand it, most of what we have been told about Auschwitz has been
discovered to be a fraud and I think it easy to fool tourists in any event.
Like the so-called myth that Hitler murdered 6 million Jews. I've only been
able to see the terrible acts on the Holocaust Channel and can not deny that
activity occurred but to what actual extent?

Most would say one is too many to to be murdered which I would feel
compelled to agree but I do not believe 6 million Jews were killed by
Hitler. I do however believe we have more information that indicates some 20
million plus Christians and others were murdered by the Bolshevik Jews
during that same era. Have you heard of Ernst Zundel? Again, right or wrong
he is also a courageous man.

Any schools and other such institutions the US is building in Iraq are those
Bush Sr. destroyed in the first place. Hussein was and is to be credited for
building schools and hospitals in Iraq. In fact in the 1980s when I was in
college Iraqis were all over the US and doing exceedingly well in our
schools as were Iranians. I once sat on the floor and ate with them as is
their custom and we had many discussions in the commons. Unlike Jews and
Saudis Hussein allowed Christians to worship and proselityze. The
contemporary history I know about Iraq is that heard from the testimony of
others which is a history of the US building prisons and military bases as
they assist the Jews to bring the next anti-christ to power to rule from
Jerusalem.

Finally, with mention of Normandy I have often discussed the Normandy
American Cemetary [1] and live for the day when the US government will
attempt to rule those grave markers are unconstitutional as they are in fact
on soil deeded to the US government and are maintained using our tax
dollars. So far Michael Newdow has not dared to take this issue to the court
of public opinion.

<%= Clinton Gallagher
METROmilwaukee (sm) "A Regional Information Service"
NET csgallagher AT metromilwaukee.com
URL http://metromilwaukee.com/
URL http://clintongallagher.metromilwaukee.com/

[1] http://battlefieldsww2.50megs.com/normandy_american_cemetery.htm
 
U

Uncle Joe

Clinton,

It's most distressing to read your latest
anti-Semitic rant. After reading it,
and your previous posts about Mexicans
and blacks, It better illuminates your soul
and your lack of compassion for your fellow
man. It seems obvious that you don't like
anyone--except perhaps your own family,
skinheads, the KKK, and criminals who
inflict pain and distress on minorities.

Please permit me to illustrate a few things
that you've overlooked about minorities:
First, they're people--human beings--who
are, in many ways, very similar to yourself.
When you feel spiritually enriched by the
sight of a glorious sunset, minorities feel
the same way. Their eyes function the same
as yours. Minorities enjoy the same foods as
you; they are filled with pride when their
children take their first steps; they cry from
joy when their children are married; they
feel excitement when they're granted their
first mortgage to build their family home;
they get migraines from overwork at the
office; they feel sadness and regret over
the death of a loved one; their senses are
heightened by the feel of satin sheets; they
feel breezes on their skin as you do; they
faithfully worship their God as you do
yours; they love the aroma of a new car
as you do; and most work hard to achieve
their goals.

You haven't yet mentioned another discriminatory,
viewpoint, but I'm certain sure you entertain misgivings
and/or hatred for women since many now competently
serve in middle and upper management, and many
serve as mayor of many American cities. They're taking
positions that you and your white male buddies feel belong
to you. Too bad! They worked their fannies off to
achieve their goals. I applaud them.

In sum, Clinton, as much as you'd hate admit
it, minorities are just like you. They're
people, too. What give you the right to
sit in judgment of minorities, and to think
that you're better than them? Clinton, you
don't measure to many minorities. My
physician is black, and I trust him with
my life. My attorney is Jewish, and I trust
him with my legal and financial affairs.

Clinton, you would have fit in perfectly in
Hitler's Third Reich. If I had been a Jew
before or during world War II, I would
have been horrified by the sight of you
approaching me and my family with hatred
in your eyes simply because we were Jews
who didn't believe as you did...if you
believed in anything at all. Most of the
people who populated the Third Reich
believed in one thing only: The glory
and wisdom of the Fuhrer, Hitler.
They were utterly morally bankrupt.

Since civilizations first rose and took their turns
marching through the gateway of History, they've
all searched for, and found, scapegoats to
account their own shortcomings. Hitler
seized upon the Jews for destroying Germany's
economy. There is no evidence of this, but
Hitler unified Germany through its common
hatred and bloodlust against the Jews. He
would have eventually turned his hatred against
Arabs, Indians, and dozens of other nationalities.

Well, I tire of this. Hate all you want, Clinton.
What you think makes not iota of importance
to the rest of the world.



clintonG said:
See what I mean. You got it all figured out.

Lets do a fer instance.

Fer instance, ever watch the History Channel?
Ever hear an older German being interviewed on the History Channel
asked why the Germans did such terrible things to the Jews? What was
the answer?

The answer is ALWAYS one of the three and only one of the three:
"because of what the Jews did to the German people before, during,
and after WWI."

Ooopsie Daisy. The Holocaust Channel is apparently owned and
controlled by Zionist Jews so here's the hook...

What did the Jews do to the German people before, during and after
WWI?

Silence, Repression of Inquiry, Plausible Deniability, Silence,
Repression of Inquiry, Plausible Deniability, Silence, Repression of
Inquiry, Plausible Deniability, Silence, Repression of Inquiry,
Plausible Deniability, Silence, Repression of Inquiry, Plausible
Deniability, Silence, Repression of Inquiry, Plausible Deniability,
Silence, Repression of Inquiry, Plausible Deniability, Silence,
Repression of Inquiry, Plausible Deniability, Silence, Repression of
Inquiry, Plausible Deniability, Silence, Repression of Inquiry,
Plausible Deniability, and you should all become aware of something
in this regard.

At this very moment the traitorous pigs in the US Congress are
supporting the Jewish Mossad in the Bush cabinet and administration
who are about to pass a so-called hate crimes law [1] that will end
free speech in America as it has throughout Europe, Australia and
Canada where the Jews have made the use and discussion of the
Christian Bible a crime and have begun putting people into prison
again for egregious crimes such as discussing the revelation of
documents that alleged to prove certain Jewish allegations regarding
WWII have been false or Chrisitans preaching homosexuality is wrong
or simply proselytizing for which the Jewish Satanists will imprison
anybody caught doing so.

Within a year or so none of us will be allowed to discuss these
topics or one or more of us can very well likely be sent to prison
just like the Germans tried to tell the world the Jews were doing
(and more) before, during, and after WWI.

The truth becomes hate for those that hate the truth and the truth
is Churchill and other Zionist Jews of that era were persecuting
many peoples for a long time; terror, tyrrany, beatings, murders,
economic deprivation, the whole nine yards so yes, in a manner of
speaking Adolph Hitler was courageous to defy those who we have been
told were the good guys.

Ghandi chose to sit on his @ss and get his skull cracked open while
his fellow women and children were raped and murdered by Churchill's
soldiers while Hitler decided to fight back and try to kill every
one of the mother*ckers he could get his hands on.

The crescendo is building once again and as before few will care to
pay attention or simply can not hear the music.

<%= Clinton Gallagher
METROmilwaukee (sm) "A Regional Information Service"
NET csgallagher AT metromilwaukee.com
URL http://metromilwaukee.com/
URL http://clintongallagher.metromilwaukee.com/

[1] http://truthtellers.org/


Rob Giordano (Crash) said:
Werld History According to Clinton?
Courageous Hitler?

Clinton's gone over the edge.


| Good grief. Clinton, get a grip....
|
| --
| Murray
| ============
|
in message
| | > Winston Churchill was a fat evil bastard who had tens of
thousands of
| > Indians beaten. Many men, women and children were murdered out
right as
he
| > attempted to force India to become submissive to British
colonization.
| > Surely you guys have heard of a guy named Mohatma Ghandi? Who
do you
think
| > Ghandi opposed and why? Hello?
| >
| > It was only the efforts of the courageous Adolph Hitler who
interrupted
| > Britian's acts of terror and tyrrany and for damn good reason.
Most of
us
| > think and believe we know what happened during that era but I
ask you
both
| > to consider that it is the victor that writes history.
| >
| > The governments of the US, Britain, and the Zionist Jews are
evil and
| > serve Satan (literally with more on this later if you want
real proof).
| > Most of the people of these nations are gleefully involved and
think
what
| > I just said is nonsense. It is our own people in the US, the
so-called
| > heros supposedly fighting for freedom in Iraq that are evil or
tacitly
| > agree to serve evil. Their goal is to force the people of the
world to
| > come under the rule of one world government which will serve an
| > anti-christ which will rule the world from Jerusalem. You've
heard about
| > this I am sure.
| >
| > Its never to late to wake up and the first thing I would ask is
you both
| > at least wake up about Winston Churchill and stop honoring his
fat evil
| > @ss. He's the wrong guy you want to emulate in any context.
| >
| > <%= Clinton Gallagher
| > METROmilwaukee (sm) "A Regional Information Service"
| > NET csgallagher AT metromilwaukee.com
| > URL http://metromilwaukee.com/
| > URL http://clintongallagher.metromilwaukee.com/
| >
| >
| >
| >
| >
| > | >> He also said to Lady Astor who told him he was drunk -
| >>
| >> "I'll be sober in the morning, but you will still be ugly!"
| >>
| >> --
| >> Murray
| >> ============
| >>
message
| >> | >>> The article makes at least one good point: Microsoft is
constantly
being
| >>> accused of security vulnerabilites of various types, but when
you
| >>> compare their software the competition, it comes out about
the same or
| >>> better, in almost all areas. The Windows OS, in particular,
is
probably
| >>> the most secure OS in the world.
| >>>
| >>> It's like Winston Churchill once said: "Democracy is the
worst form of
| >>> gevernment. Except for all the other forms that have been
tried."
| >>>
| >>> --
| >>> ;-),
| >>>
| >>> Kevin Spencer
| >>> Microsoft MVP
| >>> .Net Developer
| >>> Big things are made up of
| >>> lots of little things.
| >>>
| >>> | >>>> The one that's currently not under attack?
| >>>>
| >>>> --
| >>>> Murray
| >>>> ============
| >>>>
| >>>> | >>>>>
http://www.esecurityplanet.com/prevention/article.php/3550746
| >>>>>
| >>>>> --
| >>>>> ==============================================
| >>>>> Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
| >>>>> ==============================================
| >>>>> If you feel your current issue is a results of installing
| >>>>> a Service Pack or security update, please contact
| >>>>> Microsoft Product Support Services:
| >>>>> http://support.microsoft.com
| >>>>> If the problem can be shown to have been caused by a
| >>>>> security update, then there is usually no charge for the
call.
| >>>>> ==============================================
| >>>>>
| >>>>>
| >>>>>
| >>>>
| >>>>
| >>>
| >>>
| >>
| >>
| >
| >
|
|
 
M

Murray

Yep - I'm outta here, Clinton. Sorry....

--
Murray
============

clintonG said:
See what I mean. You got it all figured out.

Lets do a fer instance.

Fer instance, ever watch the History Channel?
Ever hear an older German being interviewed on the History Channel asked
why the Germans did such terrible things to the Jews? What was the answer?

The answer is ALWAYS one of the three and only one of the three: "because
of what the Jews did to the German people before, during, and after WWI."

Ooopsie Daisy. The Holocaust Channel is apparently owned and controlled by
Zionist Jews so here's the hook...

What did the Jews do to the German people before, during and after WWI?

Silence, Repression of Inquiry, Plausible Deniability, Silence, Repression
of Inquiry, Plausible Deniability, Silence, Repression of Inquiry,
Plausible Deniability, Silence, Repression of Inquiry, Plausible
Deniability, Silence, Repression of Inquiry, Plausible Deniability,
Silence, Repression of Inquiry, Plausible Deniability, Silence, Repression
of Inquiry, Plausible Deniability, Silence, Repression of Inquiry,
Plausible Deniability, Silence, Repression of Inquiry, Plausible
Deniability, Silence, Repression of Inquiry, Plausible Deniability, and
you should all become aware of something in this regard.

At this very moment the traitorous pigs in the US Congress are supporting
the Jewish Mossad in the Bush cabinet and administration who are about to
pass a so-called hate crimes law [1] that will end free speech in America
as it has throughout Europe, Australia and Canada where the Jews have made
the use and discussion of the Christian Bible a crime and have begun
putting people into prison again for egregious crimes such as discussing
the revelation of documents that alleged to prove certain Jewish
allegations regarding WWII have been false or Chrisitans preaching
homosexuality is wrong or simply proselytizing for which the Jewish
Satanists will imprison anybody caught doing so.

Within a year or so none of us will be allowed to discuss these topics or
one or more of us can very well likely be sent to prison just like the
Germans tried to tell the world the Jews were doing (and more) before,
during, and after WWI.

The truth becomes hate for those that hate the truth and the truth is
Churchill and other Zionist Jews of that era were persecuting many peoples
for a long time; terror, tyrrany, beatings, murders, economic deprivation,
the whole nine yards so yes, in a manner of speaking Adolph Hitler was
courageous to defy those who we have been told were the good guys.

Ghandi chose to sit on his @ss and get his skull cracked open while his
fellow women and children were raped and murdered by Churchill's soldiers
while Hitler decided to fight back and try to kill every one of the
mother*ckers he could get his hands on.

The crescendo is building once again and as before few will care to pay
attention or simply can not hear the music.

<%= Clinton Gallagher
METROmilwaukee (sm) "A Regional Information Service"
NET csgallagher AT metromilwaukee.com
URL http://metromilwaukee.com/
URL http://clintongallagher.metromilwaukee.com/

[1] http://truthtellers.org/


Rob Giordano (Crash) said:
Werld History According to Clinton?
Courageous Hitler?

Clinton's gone over the edge.


| Good grief. Clinton, get a grip....
|
| --
| Murray
| ============
|
message
| | > Winston Churchill was a fat evil bastard who had tens of thousands of
| > Indians beaten. Many men, women and children were murdered out right
as
he
| > attempted to force India to become submissive to British
colonization.
| > Surely you guys have heard of a guy named Mohatma Ghandi? Who do you
think
| > Ghandi opposed and why? Hello?
| >
| > It was only the efforts of the courageous Adolph Hitler who
interrupted
| > Britian's acts of terror and tyrrany and for damn good reason. Most
of
us
| > think and believe we know what happened during that era but I ask you
both
| > to consider that it is the victor that writes history.
| >
| > The governments of the US, Britain, and the Zionist Jews are evil and
| > serve Satan (literally with more on this later if you want real
proof).
| > Most of the people of these nations are gleefully involved and think
what
| > I just said is nonsense. It is our own people in the US, the
so-called
| > heros supposedly fighting for freedom in Iraq that are evil or
tacitly
| > agree to serve evil. Their goal is to force the people of the world
to
| > come under the rule of one world government which will serve an
| > anti-christ which will rule the world from Jerusalem. You've heard
about
| > this I am sure.
| >
| > Its never to late to wake up and the first thing I would ask is you
both
| > at least wake up about Winston Churchill and stop honoring his fat
evil
| > @ss. He's the wrong guy you want to emulate in any context.
| >
| > <%= Clinton Gallagher
| > METROmilwaukee (sm) "A Regional Information Service"
| > NET csgallagher AT metromilwaukee.com
| > URL http://metromilwaukee.com/
| > URL http://clintongallagher.metromilwaukee.com/
| >
| >
| >
| >
| >
| > | >> He also said to Lady Astor who told him he was drunk -
| >>
| >> "I'll be sober in the morning, but you will still be ugly!"
| >>
| >> --
| >> Murray
| >> ============
| >>
| >> | >>> The article makes at least one good point: Microsoft is constantly
being
| >>> accused of security vulnerabilites of various types, but when you
| >>> compare their software the competition, it comes out about the same
or
| >>> better, in almost all areas. The Windows OS, in particular, is
probably
| >>> the most secure OS in the world.
| >>>
| >>> It's like Winston Churchill once said: "Democracy is the worst form
of
| >>> gevernment. Except for all the other forms that have been tried."
| >>>
| >>> --
| >>> ;-),
| >>>
| >>> Kevin Spencer
| >>> Microsoft MVP
| >>> .Net Developer
| >>> Big things are made up of
| >>> lots of little things.
| >>>
| >>> | >>>> The one that's currently not under attack?
| >>>>
| >>>> --
| >>>> Murray
| >>>> ============
| >>>>
| >>>> | >>>>> http://www.esecurityplanet.com/prevention/article.php/3550746
| >>>>>
| >>>>> --
| >>>>> ==============================================
| >>>>> Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
| >>>>> ==============================================
| >>>>> If you feel your current issue is a results of installing
| >>>>> a Service Pack or security update, please contact
| >>>>> Microsoft Product Support Services:
| >>>>> http://support.microsoft.com
| >>>>> If the problem can be shown to have been caused by a
| >>>>> security update, then there is usually no charge for the call.
| >>>>> ==============================================
| >>>>>
| >>>>>
| >>>>>
| >>>>
| >>>>
| >>>
| >>>
| >>
| >>
| >
| >
|
|
 
J

JIMCO Software

Thomas said:


Everytime a security vulnerability in IE has been revealed, a patch has been
available BEFORE the revelation of the vulnerability to the public. In the
case of Firefox, this is a SEVERE vulnerability and there is still no patch
available, nor will there be until they release the next version next month!
If you ask me, that's ridiculous! If Microsoft took such an approach to
patches, people would be jumping up and down and screaming over it.

I am also not comfortable with open-source software. The theory most
proponents put forward is that there are many people reviewing the source so
problems can be located quickly. Maybe so, but hackers are also reviewing
that source, and if they stumble upon a security bug and start exploiting it
before it's publicly known (and before there is any way to mitigate the
bug!), many people are going to be hosed! In this day and age where people
often store their entire music collection, financial records, precious
family photos, etc. on their computer, that spells disaster in my book. I'd
much rather be using software from a company that aggressively seeks out
bugs and corrects them BEFORE they can be exploited.

I realize the Mozilla released a "security update" on Sept 20, but all that
does is disable the ability to go to URLs with international characters!
What if you NEED to go to such URLs? That's no fix. It's crippling
features in the browser because they are buggy. This same feature has had
security issues in Firefox before.

Does Firefox notify you automatically of the security fix of 9/20? I know
it will notify you of a new versions, but if there is an issue such as the
one we're talking about here, I don't think you'd even know about it unless
you're a techie. Bad news for your mother-in-law or grandma. They think
they're safe. They're not. I know several people who are running Firefox
who had no idea about this!

To me, the choice is crystal clear.

--
Jim Cheshire
JIMCO Software
http://www.jimcosoftware.com

FrontPage add-ins for FrontPage 2000 - 2003
 
U

Uncle Joe

Let me get this straight. You say,

"Finally, with mention of Normandy I have often discussed the Normandy
American Cemetery [1] and live for the day when the US government will
attempt to rule those grave markers are unconstitutional as they are
in fact
on soil deeded to the US government and are maintained using our tax
dollars. So far Michael Newdow has not dared to take this issue to the
court
of public opinion."

There's absolutely nothing unconstitutional about grave markers,
especially
those of the brave men who died on D-Day and three weeks afterwards.
After 60 years, you'd relish depriving those men and their families of
their
grave markers? How utterly depraved!! How empty your life must be
to "live for the day" when those grave markers are removed. You should
get a pet or two and discover what life's like when love enters it.

You can rest assured, Clinton, that you are alone in your desire to
pillage
the Normandy Cemetery. No legislature or court--American or French--
would EVER consider such a sacrilege. I can promise that you, your
children, and your children's children will never live to see the day
when
the memorial markers at Normandy Cemetery are removed.

I suppose you're opposed to our great Arlington National Cemetery,
too. Tax dollars go it its upkeep, as well.

I've never heard of the Holocaust Channel, but would recommend you
find other entertainment outlets. That channel, along with the books
you've read, has poisoned your mind.

And, yes, the Holocaust did happen. The Germans kept excellent
and through records. Six million is a conservative number. Only
Skinheads and Nazi sympathizers claim the Holocaust was a
hoax because they don't want aspersions cast on their beloved
Hitler. It's a safe bet to assume that Hitler is roasting in the
deepest bowels of Hell.

clintonG said:
No, I've never been anywhere. I've learned practically everything I
think I know watching "Saving Pvt. Ryan" on TV and watching the
Holocaust Channel but I have actually read a few books here and
there and have heard many personal testimonies thanks to the
Internet and streaming audio so I am at a loss in this regard but
note nowhere did I say or even imply US soldiers were evil to oppose
and defeat Hitler. All I am saying is he was courageous to fight
against tyrrany and terror which we all know he himself adopted in
his attempt to prevail.

So why is it then you apologize for Churchill by stating "Yes,
Churchill had his faults ..." when we know he too conducted his
affairs the same way but not afford the same to contemporary evil in
the guise of men such as Hitler, Hussein, Bush Crime Family, Blair,
Sharon and others? Do you confuse courage with morality?

Was buring to death hundreds of thousands of "bishops, priests,
nuns, preachers, mayors, professors, and doctors" as well as women,
children the aged and infirm living in Dresden what you call
Churchill's leadership?
Do I dare ask you to justify Hiroshima and Nagasaki? The facts are
all of them were evil or are soon driven to evil.

As I understand it, most of what we have been told about Auschwitz
has been discovered to be a fraud and I think it easy to fool
tourists in any event. Like the so-called myth that Hitler murdered
6 million Jews. I've only been able to see the terrible acts on the
Holocaust Channel and can not deny that activity occurred but to
what actual extent?

Most would say one is too many to to be murdered which I would feel
compelled to agree but I do not believe 6 million Jews were killed
by Hitler. I do however believe we have more information that
indicates some 20 million plus Christians and others were murdered
by the Bolshevik Jews during that same era. Have you heard of Ernst
Zundel? Again, right or wrong he is also a courageous man.

Any schools and other such institutions the US is building in Iraq
are those Bush Sr. destroyed in the first place. Hussein was and is
to be credited for building schools and hospitals in Iraq. In fact
in the 1980s when I was in college Iraqis were all over the US and
doing exceedingly well in our schools as were Iranians. I once sat
on the floor and ate with them as is their custom and we had many
discussions in the commons. Unlike Jews and Saudis Hussein allowed
Christians to worship and proselityze. The contemporary history I
know about Iraq is that heard from the testimony of others which is
a history of the US building prisons and military bases as they
assist the Jews to bring the next anti-christ to power to rule from
Jerusalem.

Finally, with mention of Normandy I have often discussed the
Normandy American Cemetary [1] and live for the day when the US
government will attempt to rule those grave markers are
unconstitutional as they are in fact on soil deeded to the US
government and are maintained using our tax dollars. So far Michael
Newdow has not dared to take this issue to the court of public
opinion.

<%= Clinton Gallagher
METROmilwaukee (sm) "A Regional Information Service"
NET csgallagher AT metromilwaukee.com
URL http://metromilwaukee.com/
URL http://clintongallagher.metromilwaukee.com/

[1] http://battlefieldsww2.50megs.com/normandy_american_cemetery.htm




Uncle Joe said:
Yes, Churchill had his faults but without his leadership,
and without the America army, air force, and navy,
Britain and Western Europe would be under Nazi
domination to this day.

Courageous Adolph Hitler?!!! Clinton, you have
completely gone off the deep end. Yes, History
is written by the victors, but Hitler was so proud
of his legacy that he had most of his atrocities
photographed and/or filmed. He left us a rich
treasure of historical evidence proving what he
and the Third Reich were really about.

Have you ever visited the Auschwitz concentration
camp? I have. Your courageous Adolph Hitler
killed over six million in such camps. This doesn't
include the millions he killed in Poland, Russia,
and the Balkans. He killed bishops, priests,
nuns, preachers, mayors, professors, and doctors,
among many others. He had people killed or
imprisoned simply because they wore glasses and
were therefore assumed to be part of the intelligentsia.

Have you ever walked the beaches of Normandy
and witnessed the debris of war, where over
4,000 of our soldiers died trying to breach the
"walls" of courageous Adolph Hitler's western
front on D-Day? I have. Have you toured the
American and British cemeteries of Normandy?
It might be enlightening for you. Those men
gave their lives for freedom. And with Freedom
comes responsibility. Freedom is not free. One
must be willing to defend and promote it.

You may consider American soldiers--then and
now--evil but the irrefutable truth is that they
freed Europe, Africa, and the nations and
islands of the Pacific from tyranny. And
although I've turned against the Iraqi war, we
are accomplishing good things there: schools,
sewer systems, transportation, governmental
reforms and so forth.

There is not a single socially-redeeming thing
about courageous Adolph Hitler and his
regime. Do you seriously think that had
Hitler conquered Western Europe, and turned
his attentions to India, that he would have
embraced the Indian nation? Not a chance.
He would have killed hundred of millions of
Indians. If people were not Aryan and part
of the Master Race, they were dispatched.
Pure and simple.

I'd be the last to defend British colonial rule in
India and other nations. My father was the
American harbormaster of Dacca, India.
during World War II. The stories he told
of Indian life would almost reduce him to tears.
There was one caste that was so low that
they were banned the use of fire, on pain
of death. This was enforced by other
Indians, not the British. People starved to
death on sidewalks while British and
American officers were treated like Gods.
But Hitler had absolutely nothing to do
with freeing the Indian People. Britain was
so weakened by World War II that it
couldn't maintain/afford its colonial rule.
 
M

Murray

I request that we not have this debate here, please.

--
Murray
============

Uncle Joe said:
Let me get this straight. You say,

"Finally, with mention of Normandy I have often discussed the Normandy
American Cemetery [1] and live for the day when the US government will
attempt to rule those grave markers are unconstitutional as they are in
fact
on soil deeded to the US government and are maintained using our tax
dollars. So far Michael Newdow has not dared to take this issue to the
court
of public opinion."

There's absolutely nothing unconstitutional about grave markers,
especially
those of the brave men who died on D-Day and three weeks afterwards.
After 60 years, you'd relish depriving those men and their families of
their
grave markers? How utterly depraved!! How empty your life must be
to "live for the day" when those grave markers are removed. You should
get a pet or two and discover what life's like when love enters it.

You can rest assured, Clinton, that you are alone in your desire to
pillage
the Normandy Cemetery. No legislature or court--American or French--
would EVER consider such a sacrilege. I can promise that you, your
children, and your children's children will never live to see the day when
the memorial markers at Normandy Cemetery are removed.

I suppose you're opposed to our great Arlington National Cemetery,
too. Tax dollars go it its upkeep, as well.

I've never heard of the Holocaust Channel, but would recommend you
find other entertainment outlets. That channel, along with the books
you've read, has poisoned your mind.

And, yes, the Holocaust did happen. The Germans kept excellent
and through records. Six million is a conservative number. Only
Skinheads and Nazi sympathizers claim the Holocaust was a
hoax because they don't want aspersions cast on their beloved
Hitler. It's a safe bet to assume that Hitler is roasting in the
deepest bowels of Hell.

clintonG said:
No, I've never been anywhere. I've learned practically everything I think
I know watching "Saving Pvt. Ryan" on TV and watching the Holocaust
Channel but I have actually read a few books here and there and have
heard many personal testimonies thanks to the Internet and streaming
audio so I am at a loss in this regard but note nowhere did I say or even
imply US soldiers were evil to oppose and defeat Hitler. All I am saying
is he was courageous to fight against tyrrany and terror which we all
know he himself adopted in his attempt to prevail.

So why is it then you apologize for Churchill by stating "Yes, Churchill
had his faults ..." when we know he too conducted his affairs the same
way but not afford the same to contemporary evil in the guise of men such
as Hitler, Hussein, Bush Crime Family, Blair, Sharon and others? Do you
confuse courage with morality?

Was buring to death hundreds of thousands of "bishops, priests, nuns,
preachers, mayors, professors, and doctors" as well as women, children
the aged and infirm living in Dresden what you call Churchill's
leadership?
Do I dare ask you to justify Hiroshima and Nagasaki? The facts are all of
them were evil or are soon driven to evil.

As I understand it, most of what we have been told about Auschwitz has
been discovered to be a fraud and I think it easy to fool tourists in any
event. Like the so-called myth that Hitler murdered 6 million Jews. I've
only been able to see the terrible acts on the Holocaust Channel and can
not deny that activity occurred but to what actual extent?

Most would say one is too many to to be murdered which I would feel
compelled to agree but I do not believe 6 million Jews were killed by
Hitler. I do however believe we have more information that indicates some
20 million plus Christians and others were murdered by the Bolshevik Jews
during that same era. Have you heard of Ernst Zundel? Again, right or
wrong he is also a courageous man.

Any schools and other such institutions the US is building in Iraq are
those Bush Sr. destroyed in the first place. Hussein was and is to be
credited for building schools and hospitals in Iraq. In fact in the 1980s
when I was in college Iraqis were all over the US and doing exceedingly
well in our schools as were Iranians. I once sat on the floor and ate
with them as is their custom and we had many discussions in the commons.
Unlike Jews and Saudis Hussein allowed Christians to worship and
proselityze. The contemporary history I know about Iraq is that heard
from the testimony of others which is a history of the US building
prisons and military bases as they assist the Jews to bring the next
anti-christ to power to rule from Jerusalem.

Finally, with mention of Normandy I have often discussed the Normandy
American Cemetary [1] and live for the day when the US government will
attempt to rule those grave markers are unconstitutional as they are in
fact on soil deeded to the US government and are maintained using our tax
dollars. So far Michael Newdow has not dared to take this issue to the
court of public opinion.

<%= Clinton Gallagher
METROmilwaukee (sm) "A Regional Information Service"
NET csgallagher AT metromilwaukee.com
URL http://metromilwaukee.com/
URL http://clintongallagher.metromilwaukee.com/

[1] http://battlefieldsww2.50megs.com/normandy_american_cemetery.htm




Uncle Joe said:
Yes, Churchill had his faults but without his leadership,
and without the America army, air force, and navy,
Britain and Western Europe would be under Nazi
domination to this day.

Courageous Adolph Hitler?!!! Clinton, you have
completely gone off the deep end. Yes, History
is written by the victors, but Hitler was so proud
of his legacy that he had most of his atrocities
photographed and/or filmed. He left us a rich
treasure of historical evidence proving what he
and the Third Reich were really about.

Have you ever visited the Auschwitz concentration
camp? I have. Your courageous Adolph Hitler
killed over six million in such camps. This doesn't
include the millions he killed in Poland, Russia,
and the Balkans. He killed bishops, priests,
nuns, preachers, mayors, professors, and doctors,
among many others. He had people killed or
imprisoned simply because they wore glasses and
were therefore assumed to be part of the intelligentsia.

Have you ever walked the beaches of Normandy
and witnessed the debris of war, where over
4,000 of our soldiers died trying to breach the
"walls" of courageous Adolph Hitler's western
front on D-Day? I have. Have you toured the
American and British cemeteries of Normandy?
It might be enlightening for you. Those men
gave their lives for freedom. And with Freedom
comes responsibility. Freedom is not free. One
must be willing to defend and promote it.

You may consider American soldiers--then and
now--evil but the irrefutable truth is that they
freed Europe, Africa, and the nations and
islands of the Pacific from tyranny. And
although I've turned against the Iraqi war, we
are accomplishing good things there: schools,
sewer systems, transportation, governmental
reforms and so forth.

There is not a single socially-redeeming thing
about courageous Adolph Hitler and his
regime. Do you seriously think that had
Hitler conquered Western Europe, and turned
his attentions to India, that he would have
embraced the Indian nation? Not a chance.
He would have killed hundred of millions of
Indians. If people were not Aryan and part
of the Master Race, they were dispatched.
Pure and simple.

I'd be the last to defend British colonial rule in
India and other nations. My father was the
American harbormaster of Dacca, India.
during World War II. The stories he told
of Indian life would almost reduce him to tears.
There was one caste that was so low that
they were banned the use of fire, on pain
of death. This was enforced by other
Indians, not the British. People starved to
death on sidewalks while British and
American officers were treated like Gods.
But Hitler had absolutely nothing to do
with freeing the Indian People. Britain was
so weakened by World War II that it
couldn't maintain/afford its colonial rule.


message Winston Churchill was a fat evil bastard who had tens of thousands of
Indians beaten. Many men, women and children were murdered out right as
he attempted to force India to become submissive to British
colonization. Surely you guys have heard of a guy named Mohatma Ghandi?
Who do you think Ghandi opposed and why? Hello?

It was only the efforts of the courageous Adolph Hitler who interrupted
Britian's acts of terror and tyrrany and for damn good reason. Most of
us think and believe we know what happened during that era but I ask
you both to consider that it is the victor that writes history.

The governments of the US, Britain, and the Zionist Jews are evil and
serve Satan (literally with more on this later if you want real
proof). Most of the people of these nations are gleefully involved and
think what I just said is nonsense. It is our own people in the US, the
so-called heros supposedly fighting for freedom in Iraq that are evil
or tacitly agree to serve evil. Their goal is to force the people of
the world to come under the rule of one world government which will
serve an anti-christ which will rule the world from Jerusalem. You've
heard about this I am sure.

Its never to late to wake up and the first thing I would ask is you
both at least wake up about Winston Churchill and stop honoring his fat
evil @ss. He's the wrong guy you want to emulate in any context.

<%= Clinton Gallagher
METROmilwaukee (sm) "A Regional Information Service"
NET csgallagher AT metromilwaukee.com
URL http://metromilwaukee.com/
URL http://clintongallagher.metromilwaukee.com/





He also said to Lady Astor who told him he was drunk -

"I'll be sober in the morning, but you will still be ugly!"

--
Murray
============

The article makes at least one good point: Microsoft is constantly
being accused of security vulnerabilites of various types, but when
you compare their software the competition, it comes out about the
same or better, in almost all areas. The Windows OS, in particular,
is probably the most secure OS in the world.

It's like Winston Churchill once said: "Democracy is the worst form
of gevernment. Except for all the other forms that have been tried."

--
;-),

Kevin Spencer
Microsoft MVP
.Net Developer
Big things are made up of
lots of little things.

The one that's currently not under attack?

--
Murray
============

http://www.esecurityplanet.com/prevention/article.php/3550746

--
==============================================
Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
==============================================
If you feel your current issue is a results of installing
a Service Pack or security update, please contact
Microsoft Product Support Services:
http://support.microsoft.com
If the problem can be shown to have been caused by a
security update, then there is usually no charge for the call.
==============================================
 
K

Kevin Spencer

I guess we'll have to rename this group to the "FrontPage and Political
Debate" newsgroup...

Or perhaps there are already newsgroups for political debate, and that is
where this sort of post should be posted, just so the FrontPage users who
come here for help don't have to go looking for a FrontPage needle in a
Political haystack?

--
HTH,

Kevin Spencer
Microsoft MVP
..Net Developer
Big things are made up of
lots of little things.

Uncle Joe said:
Let me get this straight. You say,

"Finally, with mention of Normandy I have often discussed the Normandy
American Cemetery [1] and live for the day when the US government will
attempt to rule those grave markers are unconstitutional as they are in
fact
on soil deeded to the US government and are maintained using our tax
dollars. So far Michael Newdow has not dared to take this issue to the
court
of public opinion."

There's absolutely nothing unconstitutional about grave markers,
especially
those of the brave men who died on D-Day and three weeks afterwards.
After 60 years, you'd relish depriving those men and their families of
their
grave markers? How utterly depraved!! How empty your life must be
to "live for the day" when those grave markers are removed. You should
get a pet or two and discover what life's like when love enters it.

You can rest assured, Clinton, that you are alone in your desire to
pillage
the Normandy Cemetery. No legislature or court--American or French--
would EVER consider such a sacrilege. I can promise that you, your
children, and your children's children will never live to see the day when
the memorial markers at Normandy Cemetery are removed.

I suppose you're opposed to our great Arlington National Cemetery,
too. Tax dollars go it its upkeep, as well.

I've never heard of the Holocaust Channel, but would recommend you
find other entertainment outlets. That channel, along with the books
you've read, has poisoned your mind.

And, yes, the Holocaust did happen. The Germans kept excellent
and through records. Six million is a conservative number. Only
Skinheads and Nazi sympathizers claim the Holocaust was a
hoax because they don't want aspersions cast on their beloved
Hitler. It's a safe bet to assume that Hitler is roasting in the
deepest bowels of Hell.

clintonG said:
No, I've never been anywhere. I've learned practically everything I think
I know watching "Saving Pvt. Ryan" on TV and watching the Holocaust
Channel but I have actually read a few books here and there and have
heard many personal testimonies thanks to the Internet and streaming
audio so I am at a loss in this regard but note nowhere did I say or even
imply US soldiers were evil to oppose and defeat Hitler. All I am saying
is he was courageous to fight against tyrrany and terror which we all
know he himself adopted in his attempt to prevail.

So why is it then you apologize for Churchill by stating "Yes, Churchill
had his faults ..." when we know he too conducted his affairs the same
way but not afford the same to contemporary evil in the guise of men such
as Hitler, Hussein, Bush Crime Family, Blair, Sharon and others? Do you
confuse courage with morality?

Was buring to death hundreds of thousands of "bishops, priests, nuns,
preachers, mayors, professors, and doctors" as well as women, children
the aged and infirm living in Dresden what you call Churchill's
leadership?
Do I dare ask you to justify Hiroshima and Nagasaki? The facts are all of
them were evil or are soon driven to evil.

As I understand it, most of what we have been told about Auschwitz has
been discovered to be a fraud and I think it easy to fool tourists in any
event. Like the so-called myth that Hitler murdered 6 million Jews. I've
only been able to see the terrible acts on the Holocaust Channel and can
not deny that activity occurred but to what actual extent?

Most would say one is too many to to be murdered which I would feel
compelled to agree but I do not believe 6 million Jews were killed by
Hitler. I do however believe we have more information that indicates some
20 million plus Christians and others were murdered by the Bolshevik Jews
during that same era. Have you heard of Ernst Zundel? Again, right or
wrong he is also a courageous man.

Any schools and other such institutions the US is building in Iraq are
those Bush Sr. destroyed in the first place. Hussein was and is to be
credited for building schools and hospitals in Iraq. In fact in the 1980s
when I was in college Iraqis were all over the US and doing exceedingly
well in our schools as were Iranians. I once sat on the floor and ate
with them as is their custom and we had many discussions in the commons.
Unlike Jews and Saudis Hussein allowed Christians to worship and
proselityze. The contemporary history I know about Iraq is that heard
from the testimony of others which is a history of the US building
prisons and military bases as they assist the Jews to bring the next
anti-christ to power to rule from Jerusalem.

Finally, with mention of Normandy I have often discussed the Normandy
American Cemetary [1] and live for the day when the US government will
attempt to rule those grave markers are unconstitutional as they are in
fact on soil deeded to the US government and are maintained using our tax
dollars. So far Michael Newdow has not dared to take this issue to the
court of public opinion.

<%= Clinton Gallagher
METROmilwaukee (sm) "A Regional Information Service"
NET csgallagher AT metromilwaukee.com
URL http://metromilwaukee.com/
URL http://clintongallagher.metromilwaukee.com/

[1] http://battlefieldsww2.50megs.com/normandy_american_cemetery.htm




Uncle Joe said:
Yes, Churchill had his faults but without his leadership,
and without the America army, air force, and navy,
Britain and Western Europe would be under Nazi
domination to this day.

Courageous Adolph Hitler?!!! Clinton, you have
completely gone off the deep end. Yes, History
is written by the victors, but Hitler was so proud
of his legacy that he had most of his atrocities
photographed and/or filmed. He left us a rich
treasure of historical evidence proving what he
and the Third Reich were really about.

Have you ever visited the Auschwitz concentration
camp? I have. Your courageous Adolph Hitler
killed over six million in such camps. This doesn't
include the millions he killed in Poland, Russia,
and the Balkans. He killed bishops, priests,
nuns, preachers, mayors, professors, and doctors,
among many others. He had people killed or
imprisoned simply because they wore glasses and
were therefore assumed to be part of the intelligentsia.

Have you ever walked the beaches of Normandy
and witnessed the debris of war, where over
4,000 of our soldiers died trying to breach the
"walls" of courageous Adolph Hitler's western
front on D-Day? I have. Have you toured the
American and British cemeteries of Normandy?
It might be enlightening for you. Those men
gave their lives for freedom. And with Freedom
comes responsibility. Freedom is not free. One
must be willing to defend and promote it.

You may consider American soldiers--then and
now--evil but the irrefutable truth is that they
freed Europe, Africa, and the nations and
islands of the Pacific from tyranny. And
although I've turned against the Iraqi war, we
are accomplishing good things there: schools,
sewer systems, transportation, governmental
reforms and so forth.

There is not a single socially-redeeming thing
about courageous Adolph Hitler and his
regime. Do you seriously think that had
Hitler conquered Western Europe, and turned
his attentions to India, that he would have
embraced the Indian nation? Not a chance.
He would have killed hundred of millions of
Indians. If people were not Aryan and part
of the Master Race, they were dispatched.
Pure and simple.

I'd be the last to defend British colonial rule in
India and other nations. My father was the
American harbormaster of Dacca, India.
during World War II. The stories he told
of Indian life would almost reduce him to tears.
There was one caste that was so low that
they were banned the use of fire, on pain
of death. This was enforced by other
Indians, not the British. People starved to
death on sidewalks while British and
American officers were treated like Gods.
But Hitler had absolutely nothing to do
with freeing the Indian People. Britain was
so weakened by World War II that it
couldn't maintain/afford its colonial rule.


message Winston Churchill was a fat evil bastard who had tens of thousands of
Indians beaten. Many men, women and children were murdered out right as
he attempted to force India to become submissive to British
colonization. Surely you guys have heard of a guy named Mohatma Ghandi?
Who do you think Ghandi opposed and why? Hello?

It was only the efforts of the courageous Adolph Hitler who interrupted
Britian's acts of terror and tyrrany and for damn good reason. Most of
us think and believe we know what happened during that era but I ask
you both to consider that it is the victor that writes history.

The governments of the US, Britain, and the Zionist Jews are evil and
serve Satan (literally with more on this later if you want real
proof). Most of the people of these nations are gleefully involved and
think what I just said is nonsense. It is our own people in the US, the
so-called heros supposedly fighting for freedom in Iraq that are evil
or tacitly agree to serve evil. Their goal is to force the people of
the world to come under the rule of one world government which will
serve an anti-christ which will rule the world from Jerusalem. You've
heard about this I am sure.

Its never to late to wake up and the first thing I would ask is you
both at least wake up about Winston Churchill and stop honoring his fat
evil @ss. He's the wrong guy you want to emulate in any context.

<%= Clinton Gallagher
METROmilwaukee (sm) "A Regional Information Service"
NET csgallagher AT metromilwaukee.com
URL http://metromilwaukee.com/
URL http://clintongallagher.metromilwaukee.com/





He also said to Lady Astor who told him he was drunk -

"I'll be sober in the morning, but you will still be ugly!"

--
Murray
============

The article makes at least one good point: Microsoft is constantly
being accused of security vulnerabilites of various types, but when
you compare their software the competition, it comes out about the
same or better, in almost all areas. The Windows OS, in particular,
is probably the most secure OS in the world.

It's like Winston Churchill once said: "Democracy is the worst form
of gevernment. Except for all the other forms that have been tried."

--
;-),

Kevin Spencer
Microsoft MVP
.Net Developer
Big things are made up of
lots of little things.

The one that's currently not under attack?

--
Murray
============

http://www.esecurityplanet.com/prevention/article.php/3550746

--
==============================================
Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
==============================================
If you feel your current issue is a results of installing
a Service Pack or security update, please contact
Microsoft Product Support Services:
http://support.microsoft.com
If the problem can be shown to have been caused by a
security update, then there is usually no charge for the call.
==============================================
 
U

Uncle Joe

You got it insofar as I'm concerned. Have said
all I needed to say to Clinton. Debate closed.


Murray said:
I request that we not have this debate here, please.

--
Murray
============

Uncle Joe said:
Let me get this straight. You say,

"Finally, with mention of Normandy I have often discussed the
Normandy
American Cemetery [1] and live for the day when the US government
will
attempt to rule those grave markers are unconstitutional as they
are in fact
on soil deeded to the US government and are maintained using our
tax
dollars. So far Michael Newdow has not dared to take this issue to
the court
of public opinion."

There's absolutely nothing unconstitutional about grave markers,
especially
those of the brave men who died on D-Day and three weeks
afterwards.
After 60 years, you'd relish depriving those men and their families
of their
grave markers? How utterly depraved!! How empty your life must be
to "live for the day" when those grave markers are removed. You
should
get a pet or two and discover what life's like when love enters it.

You can rest assured, Clinton, that you are alone in your desire to
pillage
the Normandy Cemetery. No legislature or court--American or
French--
would EVER consider such a sacrilege. I can promise that you, your
children, and your children's children will never live to see the
day when
the memorial markers at Normandy Cemetery are removed.

I suppose you're opposed to our great Arlington National Cemetery,
too. Tax dollars go it its upkeep, as well.

I've never heard of the Holocaust Channel, but would recommend you
find other entertainment outlets. That channel, along with the
books
you've read, has poisoned your mind.

And, yes, the Holocaust did happen. The Germans kept excellent
and through records. Six million is a conservative number. Only
Skinheads and Nazi sympathizers claim the Holocaust was a
hoax because they don't want aspersions cast on their beloved
Hitler. It's a safe bet to assume that Hitler is roasting in the
deepest bowels of Hell.

clintonG said:
No, I've never been anywhere. I've learned practically everything
I think I know watching "Saving Pvt. Ryan" on TV and watching the
Holocaust Channel but I have actually read a few books here and
there and have heard many personal testimonies thanks to the
Internet and streaming audio so I am at a loss in this regard but
note nowhere did I say or even imply US soldiers were evil to
oppose and defeat Hitler. All I am saying is he was courageous to
fight against tyrrany and terror which we all know he himself
adopted in his attempt to prevail.

So why is it then you apologize for Churchill by stating "Yes,
Churchill had his faults ..." when we know he too conducted his
affairs the same way but not afford the same to contemporary evil
in the guise of men such as Hitler, Hussein, Bush Crime Family,
Blair, Sharon and others? Do you confuse courage with morality?

Was buring to death hundreds of thousands of "bishops, priests,
nuns, preachers, mayors, professors, and doctors" as well as
women, children the aged and infirm living in Dresden what you
call Churchill's leadership?
Do I dare ask you to justify Hiroshima and Nagasaki? The facts are
all of them were evil or are soon driven to evil.

As I understand it, most of what we have been told about Auschwitz
has been discovered to be a fraud and I think it easy to fool
tourists in any event. Like the so-called myth that Hitler
murdered 6 million Jews. I've only been able to see the terrible
acts on the Holocaust Channel and can not deny that activity
occurred but to what actual extent?

Most would say one is too many to to be murdered which I would
feel compelled to agree but I do not believe 6 million Jews were
killed by Hitler. I do however believe we have more information
that indicates some 20 million plus Christians and others were
murdered by the Bolshevik Jews during that same era. Have you
heard of Ernst Zundel? Again, right or wrong he is also a
courageous man.

Any schools and other such institutions the US is building in Iraq
are those Bush Sr. destroyed in the first place. Hussein was and
is to be credited for building schools and hospitals in Iraq. In
fact in the 1980s when I was in college Iraqis were all over the
US and doing exceedingly well in our schools as were Iranians. I
once sat on the floor and ate with them as is their custom and we
had many discussions in the commons. Unlike Jews and Saudis
Hussein allowed Christians to worship and proselityze. The
contemporary history I know about Iraq is that heard from the
testimony of others which is a history of the US building prisons
and military bases as they assist the Jews to bring the next
anti-christ to power to rule from Jerusalem.

Finally, with mention of Normandy I have often discussed the
Normandy American Cemetary [1] and live for the day when the US
government will attempt to rule those grave markers are
unconstitutional as they are in fact on soil deeded to the US
government and are maintained using our tax dollars. So far
Michael Newdow has not dared to take this issue to the court of
public opinion.

<%= Clinton Gallagher
METROmilwaukee (sm) "A Regional Information Service"
NET csgallagher AT metromilwaukee.com
URL http://metromilwaukee.com/
URL http://clintongallagher.metromilwaukee.com/

[1]
http://battlefieldsww2.50megs.com/normandy_american_cemetery.htm




Yes, Churchill had his faults but without his leadership,
and without the America army, air force, and navy,
Britain and Western Europe would be under Nazi
domination to this day.

Courageous Adolph Hitler?!!! Clinton, you have
completely gone off the deep end. Yes, History
is written by the victors, but Hitler was so proud
of his legacy that he had most of his atrocities
photographed and/or filmed. He left us a rich
treasure of historical evidence proving what he
and the Third Reich were really about.

Have you ever visited the Auschwitz concentration
camp? I have. Your courageous Adolph Hitler
killed over six million in such camps. This doesn't
include the millions he killed in Poland, Russia,
and the Balkans. He killed bishops, priests,
nuns, preachers, mayors, professors, and doctors,
among many others. He had people killed or
imprisoned simply because they wore glasses and
were therefore assumed to be part of the intelligentsia.

Have you ever walked the beaches of Normandy
and witnessed the debris of war, where over
4,000 of our soldiers died trying to breach the
"walls" of courageous Adolph Hitler's western
front on D-Day? I have. Have you toured the
American and British cemeteries of Normandy?
It might be enlightening for you. Those men
gave their lives for freedom. And with Freedom
comes responsibility. Freedom is not free. One
must be willing to defend and promote it.

You may consider American soldiers--then and
now--evil but the irrefutable truth is that they
freed Europe, Africa, and the nations and
islands of the Pacific from tyranny. And
although I've turned against the Iraqi war, we
are accomplishing good things there: schools,
sewer systems, transportation, governmental
reforms and so forth.

There is not a single socially-redeeming thing
about courageous Adolph Hitler and his
regime. Do you seriously think that had
Hitler conquered Western Europe, and turned
his attentions to India, that he would have
embraced the Indian nation? Not a chance.
He would have killed hundred of millions of
Indians. If people were not Aryan and part
of the Master Race, they were dispatched.
Pure and simple.

I'd be the last to defend British colonial rule in
India and other nations. My father was the
American harbormaster of Dacca, India.
during World War II. The stories he told
of Indian life would almost reduce him to tears.
There was one caste that was so low that
they were banned the use of fire, on pain
of death. This was enforced by other
Indians, not the British. People starved to
death on sidewalks while British and
American officers were treated like Gods.
But Hitler had absolutely nothing to do
with freeing the Indian People. Britain was
so weakened by World War II that it
couldn't maintain/afford its colonial rule.


in message Winston Churchill was a fat evil bastard who had tens of
thousands of Indians beaten. Many men, women and children were
murdered out right as he attempted to force India to become
submissive to British colonization. Surely you guys have heard
of a guy named Mohatma Ghandi? Who do you think Ghandi opposed
and why? Hello?

It was only the efforts of the courageous Adolph Hitler who
interrupted Britian's acts of terror and tyrrany and for damn
good reason. Most of us think and believe we know what happened
during that era but I ask you both to consider that it is the
victor that writes history.

The governments of the US, Britain, and the Zionist Jews are
evil and serve Satan (literally with more on this later if you
want real proof). Most of the people of these nations are
gleefully involved and think what I just said is nonsense. It is
our own people in the US, the so-called heros supposedly
fighting for freedom in Iraq that are evil or tacitly agree to
serve evil. Their goal is to force the people of the world to
come under the rule of one world government which will serve an
anti-christ which will rule the world from Jerusalem. You've
heard about this I am sure.

Its never to late to wake up and the first thing I would ask is
you both at least wake up about Winston Churchill and stop
honoring his fat evil @ss. He's the wrong guy you want to
emulate in any context.

<%= Clinton Gallagher
METROmilwaukee (sm) "A Regional Information Service"
NET csgallagher AT metromilwaukee.com
URL http://metromilwaukee.com/
URL http://clintongallagher.metromilwaukee.com/





He also said to Lady Astor who told him he was drunk -

"I'll be sober in the morning, but you will still be ugly!"

--
Murray
============

message The article makes at least one good point: Microsoft is
constantly being accused of security vulnerabilites of various
types, but when you compare their software the competition, it
comes out about the same or better, in almost all areas. The
Windows OS, in particular, is probably the most secure OS in
the world.

It's like Winston Churchill once said: "Democracy is the worst
form of gevernment. Except for all the other forms that have
been tried."

--
;-),

Kevin Spencer
Microsoft MVP
.Net Developer
Big things are made up of
lots of little things.

The one that's currently not under attack?

--
Murray
============

http://www.esecurityplanet.com/prevention/article.php/3550746

--
==============================================
Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
==============================================
If you feel your current issue is a results of installing
a Service Pack or security update, please contact
Microsoft Product Support Services:
http://support.microsoft.com
If the problem can be shown to have been caused by a
security update, then there is usually no charge for the
call.
==============================================
 
S

Steve Easton

Clinton,

you are in serious need of a reality check.

--
Steve Easton
Microsoft MVP FrontPage
95isalive
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