OT: Do <16ms LCD's have blurring with motion?

[Mike]

You'd also want vsync off if your framerate is low.

Mike

 

[Barry Watzman]

The Princeton Graphic Systems SENergy 981 19 inches TFT LCD monitor is
1600x1200 and under 20".

1920 horizontal is the standard resolution of an HDTV set with 16:9
aspect ratio and 1080 vertical resolution. There are lots of LCD
projection TV sets (not stand alone projectors, but LCD projection TV
sets) that have this resolution. They are not cheap ($5000 to $9,000),
but neither are they $25,000. And I beleive that they do use relatively
small color screens (using separate panels for the 3 colors would
introduce convergence issues, the total lack of which is one of the
benefits of both LCD and DLP projectors).

HOWEVER, take a look at:

http://www.hdtvexpert.com/pages/sameoldsan.htm

1920x1080 front [stand-alone] projector. Note this quote from the article:

"You’ll likely see 1920x1080 LCD front projectors some time later this
year, thanks to Epson’s new 1.65” polysilicon panels. And it’s a sure
bet that those 1080p LCD front projectors will sell for less money than
a comparable single-chip front 1080p DLP design"

Got that? It's a 1.65 inch LCD panel with 1920 pixel horizontal
resolution. And it's coming to mass market later this year, and that IS
for a "stand-alone" projector.

Barry Watzman wrote:

RE: "I run my 19" CRT at 1600x1200@85Hz, to get that resolution you need
a 20" LCD, and the dot pitch becomes ~10% larger."

There is no direct relationship between LCD size and resolution. I've
seen 7-inch 1024x768 displays, and there are 15" displays that have
1600x1200. Granted, the most common resolution for 19" displays is
1280x1024, but it's not fair to say that "to get that resolution you
need a 20" LCD"

[keep in mind that the LCDs used in HDTV's and LCD projectors are
extremely high resolution, sometimes up around 1920 pixels horizontally,
and yet they are truly tiny -- "microdisplays", only one to two inches
diagonally]

There are very, very few projectors capable of 1920 horizontally and they
cost $25,000 or more. Further, most LCD projectors are triple-panel, three
monochrome LCDs with different filters.

Regardless of any of this, please tell us where to buy an LCD monitor with a
diagonal measurement less than 20" and a native resolution greater than
1280x1024. Not a "display", but a monitor with standard VGA or DVI inputs
that can be plugged into a computer and used right out of the box.

 

[J. Clarke]

The Princeton Graphic Systems SENergy 981 19 inches TFT LCD monitor is
1600x1200 and under 20".

Check again. It can accept a 1600x1200 signal and display some kind of
image from it but its native resolution is 1280x1024. At least Princeton
Graphics seems to think that. Perhaps you should inform them of their
error.

1920 horizontal is the standard resolution of an HDTV set with 16:9
aspect ratio and 1080 vertical resolution.

1080i is one of the standard HD signal resolutions. Few sets can actually
display it though. Most downconvert it to something less for display.

There are lots of LCD
projection TV sets (not stand alone projectors, but LCD projection TV
sets) that have this resolution. They are not cheap ($5000 to $9,000),
but neither are they $25,000.

Please identify one that costs under $9000 that has a native resolution of
1920x1080. Not one that can accept the signal and display some kind of
image but one that has LCDs with that or higher as their native resolution.

And I beleive that they do use relatively
small color screens (using separate panels for the 3 colors would
introduce convergence issues, the total lack of which is one of the
benefits of both LCD and DLP projectors).

HOWEVER, take a look at:

http://www.hdtvexpert.com/pages/sameoldsan.htm

1920x1080 front [stand-alone] projector. Note this quote from the
article:

"You?ll likely see 1920x1080 LCD front projectors some time later this
year,

What year is that? You can buy them now from a number of vendors. So what?

thanks to Epson?s new 1.65? polysilicon panels. And it?s a sure
bet that those 1080p LCD front projectors will sell for less money than
a comparable single-chip front 1080p DLP design"

So where can one buy either type for under $25,000?

Got that? It's a 1.65 inch LCD panel with 1920 pixel horizontal
resolution. And it's coming to mass market later this year, and that IS
for a "stand-alone" projector.

And when I see one for sale for less than $25,000 then I'll give a damn.

Sorry, Barry, but you've got nothing here.

If your point is that someone somewhere is capable of making an LCD with a
diagonal measurement less than 20" and a resolution greather than
1280x1024, nobody has contested this. It is their availability in a
monitor that we can stick on our desks and attach to our computers that is
in question, and you have not demonstrated that there is such a thing.

As for front projectors, while they are nice, the price of the bulbs is
prohibitive for day to day use as a working monitor.

Barry Watzman wrote:

RE: "I run my 19" CRT at 1600x1200@85Hz, to get that resolution you need
a 20" LCD, and the dot pitch becomes ~10% larger."

There is no direct relationship between LCD size and resolution. I've
seen 7-inch 1024x768 displays, and there are 15" displays that have
1600x1200. Granted, the most common resolution for 19" displays is
1280x1024, but it's not fair to say that "to get that resolution you
need a 20" LCD"

[keep in mind that the LCDs used in HDTV's and LCD projectors are
extremely high resolution, sometimes up around 1920 pixels horizontally,
and yet they are truly tiny -- "microdisplays", only one to two inches
diagonally]

There are very, very few projectors capable of 1920 horizontally and they
cost $25,000 or more. Further, most LCD projectors are triple-panel,
three monochrome LCDs with different filters.

Regardless of any of this, please tell us where to buy an LCD monitor
with a diagonal measurement less than 20" and a native resolution greater
than
1280x1024. Not a "display", but a monitor with standard VGA or DVI
inputs that can be plugged into a computer and used right out of the box.