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Sugien
Anyone here know or ever heard of one:
John T. Rice
Anderson Indiana
May be into ham radio and either owns or takes care of a trailer or RV park
in Indiana?
I am just wondering because I have inadvertently come across some of
his information on a HD that was not wiped properly. I would have just
wiped it myself (using better methods of course<s>); but I have the feeling
that it may have passed through a couple hands before mine, some of which I
don't think are anywhere near as honest.
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John T. Rice
Anderson Indiana
May be into ham radio and either owns or takes care of a trailer or RV park
in Indiana?
I am just wondering because I have inadvertently come across some of
his information on a HD that was not wiped properly. I would have just
wiped it myself (using better methods of course<s>); but I have the feeling
that it may have passed through a couple hands before mine, some of which I
don't think are anywhere near as honest.
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Bart Bailey
In Message-ID:<[email protected]> posted on Mon, 2 Feb
He just renewed his license last August,
so he's probably still in Indiana.
What did you find, a bunch of KP? <g>
He just renewed his license last August,
so he's probably still in Indiana.
What did you find, a bunch of KP? <g>
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Sugien
Bart Bailey said:
Thanks; However I already knew this, what I was asking is if anyone *knows*
him either as an acquaintance or friend or has corresponded with him. I put
the question mark after Indiana; because the info I have is over a year old;
but I his phone number and stuff; but don't wish to call- go figure it is
sort of an interesting situation
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Sugien
Pepperoni said:
I think I need to have expressed myself more clearly. I know how to use
search pages and can find info; *but* what I was wanting to know is if
someone actually *knows* the guy; because what I am trying to find out would
*not* be in any online database and could only be answered by someone that
knows him.
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Sugien
No; but a deal that at the time seamed like a good deal; but the more IBart Bailey said:
think of it the more it seams like a deal *too good* to be true, and I am
now in the process of trying to see if it was a good deal or whether it was
a case of my wanting something too much that it made me unintentionally over
look what would at other times be obvious alert signs.
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FromTheRafters
Sugien said:
The computer I am using now was purchased by me at auction
from the city I live in. They had supposedly wiped the harddrive
and reinstalled the OS and applications. After recovering some
data from the harddrive, I found documents pertaining to the
firing of an individual, who worked for the water department, for
making terrorist threats (threatening to gun down his boss). It
made for some interesting reading. I learned that this is an offense
that can result one's being fired, and that an @$$hole I knew in
high school was still very much an @$$hole 25 years later. :O)
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Were you recovering your *own* data that was deleted,
or were you just nosing around, like Sooooooooooooge?
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Laura Fredericks said:
It was purchased "as is" ~ so I suppose it was *my* data. ;o)
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Bart Bailey
In Message-ID:<[email protected]> posted on Tue, 3 Feb
So when you hunt down the guy that sold it to you and kick his ass, are
you going to take your kids along so they can see what happens to some
lowlife that tries to pull that kind of shit?
So when you hunt down the guy that sold it to you and kick his ass, are
you going to take your kids along so they can see what happens to some
lowlife that tries to pull that kind of shit?
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Sugien
FromTheRafters said:
Well basically I had been saving up to buy a used laptop and a friend
called me and said a friend of a friend was at his house and that he had one
for sale. When I got there the guy was drunk and singing a sad story of he
and his wife breaking up and how she had chucked his stuff out into the
yard. He said she had cut up most all of his clothes and he was ranting
about how she had cleaned out their savings and checking accounts and that
he didn't have any money so he was selling his laptop so he could go to his
parents house and hire an attorney and such.
I asked him point blank if it he was telling the truth and if the
laptop was stolen and that if it was I wasn't going to call the law or
anything. He said it wasn't stolen but that when she chucked it out the
door and after that he tried to turn it on that he was just getting a black
screen and it was saying no boot device present. I checked it out and told
him that most likely it was just something jiggled loose and that I could
probably fix it for him; but he said that he just needed the money. We
settled on what I thought was a good price and all that I could afford. I
asked the friend that called me if the guy could be trusted he told me that
a friend of a friend had sent the guy to him because he knows people and
that the friend that had sent him there was reliable and that he didn't
think he would send anyone to his house that wasn't trustworthy.
Well to try and shorten this I bought it and took it home; but after I
got it working mechanically the OS was still messed up and it wouldn't boot
so I put in a winXP corporate pro and chose custom install and I was sure
that I had told it to format and install; but after it came up and I was
putting it through it's paces I found some file fragments left over and
found what looked to be the original owners name, address and phone number.
After trying to find out if the guy was a decent guy; because I was starting
to suspect the laptop was stolen and didn't want to be accused of receiving
stolen goods (that is when I posted here and elsewhere's to see if maybe
someone knew him and could maybe tell me if the guy was a decent guy) I
decided to just call the phone number and ask.
The guys wife answered and I asked if they had either sold or had a
laptop stolen and she said that her laptop had been stolen. After I asked
her some questions that only the owner of the laptop could have known I
realized that it must have indeed been stolen. I then told her "Well it
looks like I have *your* laptop, you can come and get it if you want to".
She asked me if I knew anything about anything else that was taken from
their truck and I told her no and she wanted to know who it was that I
bought it from. I told her that I got it from a friend of a friend of a
friend and that I didn't want to get anyone in trouble; but that I would
call and see if anyone knew anything about anything else that was taken. I
called and suffice it to say no one knows anything and what I thought was a
friend that I had only occasional dealings with mostly when he needed his pc
worked on or if he needed something else turned out to my way of thinking to
be no friend at all; because he now says that the friend that sent the guy
to him says that he didn't send him at all and what my friend(EX?)is trying
to say if I choose to believe it is that when the guy showed up he told him
that so and so had sent him there and that he had said that he might be
interested in buying a laptop. He said the guy then basically told him the
same story he told me. We my friend said he tried to call and verify that
his friend had sent him; but got no answer and it was a Saturday night so he
figured he was out partying somewhere and he then thought of me (gee thanks
for costing me money and who knows what else) and called.
She was in a hurry and that she would have her husband call when he
got off work. When he called I gave him directions to my house and he said
that it was about an 8 hour drive and that he would be here today around
noon. Well this morning he called at about 8am or so saying he was outside
in front of my house. I told him that I had over slept and that I would put
my pants on and come to the door.
When I opened the door he was sort of blunt and to the point and said
"I don't want to come in, just give me my laptop and I will go". I left the
main front door open and only the storm door closed went in got the laptop
and everything I had got with it and handed it to him. He was soft spoken
and I could hardly make out but I think he grunted out a thank you and then
said "I'll be seeing you", he turned and left got into his car and drove
away.
I have no idea what he meant when he said "I'll be seeing you"; but I
hope it isn't a case of "No good deed going unpunished". I know some here
have a low opinion of what I do online; but those here in my small hometown
know me as an honest man of his word, that goes to church regular sings in
the church choir and plays bass guitar with the other church musicians when
the congregation sings.
I could have just ignored the name and address I found; but when the
name and address was out of state and the guy said he lived here local I got
suspicious and if I had something stolen I would hope someone like me bought
it (not knowing it was stolen of course); because if it was someone like me
that bought it, I would get it back.
If I wasn't the man I am, I would now have a good laptop; but being
able to sleep nights and having a clean conscience is worth much more to me
then a thousand laptops. I look at it as an example to my children of what
a person should do when they find out they have bought something and then
later find out it was stolen. I told the guy what I paid for it; but didn't
ask for him to pay me back; because I look at it this way: it was me that
wanted a laptop so badly that I let my better judgment take a back seat and
although I truly thought it wasn't stolen there was the nagging in my
subconscious and soul telling me that something just wasn't kosher. It is
just an expensive lesson I learned; but to teach my kids a valuable lesson
and as a learning experience it is as the one commercial on TV says,
"Priceless"
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Heather
Sugien said:
Good grief, Charlie Brown.......after ploughing thru all the 'he saids
and she saids and so on', it all boils down to the fact that it was
stolen goods. All of you were in possession of it and ALL of you knew
it was probably stolen. So I guess you are not going to inform the
constabulary in Chilicothe, grin.
Nice bunch of people you hang out with. Deals that 'sound too good to
be true'.....are just that. So you are out the money, the out of state
*charmer* has his laptop back, and the thieves suckered you. I'd find
some new friends if I were you.
Heather
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Sugien
Bart Bailey said:
I am not going to hunt him down, for a couple of reasons. For one
thing it isn't my job and for another I have no way of knowing if the person
that sold it to me, is the same one that stole it or if he was selling it
for the one that did steal it or if maybe he bought it as I did except that
after he figured out it was stolen instead of trying to find the owner he
decided to try and get his money back by reselling it.
I think it is best for me, to just chalk it up to one of life's lessons
learned. I will tell you one thing however from now on any time in the
future I will require either a receipt from where they purchased it and I
most certainly won't buy something from someone that smells of beer. I will
also think about purchases like that over night and *not* let my desire for
something and for getting a good blind me to the fact that a deal might be
too good to be true. I just figured however for the price I paid seeing
that it was about a third of what I thought it coast originally that it
seamed like a normal price for that type of used laptop.
The guy did however get a better deal in getting his laptop back then
had the thief pawned it; because here in the state where I live if stolen
merchandise is pawned the owner must repay the pawn broker his money before
recovering their property. Pawn brokers are however also required to check
the hot sheet before allowing something to be pawned and I am not sure of
what the law is if the property is on the hot sheet and they took it in on
pawn anyway. I am still curious about what he meant when he said "I'll be
seeing you" unless like my wife says, "That might just be the way he says
good by".
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taff
I deal in second user systems and I would NEVER look at the
information left on a HD,
Well, not unless it looked interesting. :-=))
Taff................
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On Tue, 3 Feb 2004 12:22:17 -0800, "Sugien"
<snip 120 lines of rambling>
I still don't understand why you posted the laptop
owner's name and personal info, here,
Soooooooooooooooooge. It was unnecessary. What would
the odds be that any given person in the world would
be known by anyone of the few thousand people that
read this newsgroup? Astronomical!
You said you suspected this person might be into ham
radio, RVs or trailer parks... Well then why didn't
you post your query to a ham radio, RV or trailer park
newsgroup? Why an anti-virus newsgroup??? This is
illogical. Besides, since such a tiny percentage of
people online even know what usenet is, that makes the
odds even greater!
Anyone else would've just contacted the person, if
they suspected it might be stolen. If it wasn't, then
the person would thank you for calling to verify the
ownership. It was *was*, then the person would thank
you for being honest. A simple phone call, Soooooooge.
And why the looooooooong, drawn-out rambling of an
explanation? One hundred and twenty lines??? We didn't
need to know all these details. Sounds like a
statement you would give to a police officer, if
he/she came to your home to query how you came upon
stolen merchandise...
What's up, Sooooooooooge? Are you scared of getting
arrested for receiving stolen goods -- even if it was
unknowingly? Did you post this loooooooong story, here
because you're afraid the police won't believe you?
IMHO, that's sure what it looks like...
Why did you bring up what you do in church, how honest
you are, setting an example to your kids, etc. (Oh,
you forgot to add you're a vet and served in 'Nam.)
Sooooooooge, your post reads like a police
statement... Like you're accounting for every moment
you had the laptop in your posession.
If you're so scared of getting arrested for receiving
stolen goods -- albeit unknowingly -- then you just
shouldn't have posted at all.
But, IMHO, because you did, you should now take the
time to contact the police, so the people who stole it
can be apprehended. (And your "statement" is already
written!) By *not* doing so, you're teaching your
kids to look the other way when a crime is committed.
Just my 2¢.
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On Tue, 3 Feb 2004 12:22:17 -0800, "Sugien"
<snip 120 lines of rambling>
I still don't understand why you posted the laptop
owner's name and personal info, here,
Soooooooooooooooooge. It was unnecessary. What would
the odds be that any given person in the world would
be known by anyone of the few thousand people that
read this newsgroup? Astronomical!
You said you suspected this person might be into ham
radio, RVs or trailer parks... Well then why didn't
you post your query to a ham radio, RV or trailer park
newsgroup? Why an anti-virus newsgroup??? This is
illogical. Besides, since such a tiny percentage of
people online even know what usenet is, that makes the
odds even greater!
Anyone else would've just contacted the person, if
they suspected it might be stolen. If it wasn't, then
the person would thank you for calling to verify the
ownership. It was *was*, then the person would thank
you for being honest. A simple phone call, Soooooooge.
And why the looooooooong, drawn-out rambling of an
explanation? One hundred and twenty lines??? We didn't
need to know all these details. Sounds like a
statement you would give to a police officer, if
he/she came to your home to query how you came upon
stolen merchandise...
What's up, Sooooooooooge? Are you scared of getting
arrested for receiving stolen goods -- even if it was
unknowingly? Did you post this loooooooong story, here
because you're afraid the police won't believe you?
IMHO, that's sure what it looks like...
Why did you bring up what you do in church, how honest
you are, setting an example to your kids, etc. (Oh,
you forgot to add you're a vet and served in 'Nam.)
Sooooooooge, your post reads like a police
statement... Like you're accounting for every moment
you had the laptop in your posession.
If you're so scared of getting arrested for receiving
stolen goods -- albeit unknowingly -- then you just
shouldn't have posted at all.
But, IMHO, because you did, you should now take the
time to contact the police, so the people who stole it
can be apprehended. (And your "statement" is already
written!) By *not* doing so, you're teaching your
kids to look the other way when a crime is committed.
Just my 2¢.
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Laura Fredericks said:
Of course! From a security standpoint I wondered how
completely a local government agency would wipe the
drive.
....not very.
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Sugien
Heather said:
Well one thing for sure, the *friend* that called me to see if I wanted
to buy it need not call me next time his pc breaks down. Actually he was
more of an acquaintance then a friend. I call just about everyone I know a
friend; because I have no enemies. Personally I don't think I did anything
illegal; because for one thing I called and gave it back when I found out
for sure it was stolen, and I didn't knowingly buy stolen goods. Now had I
bought it for say $50 bucks the law could say I knew it was stolen because
of the cheap price; but the price I paid is not less then what I have seen
other *used* laptops go for especially one that at the time of purchase
would not boot up. If anything I paid too much for a laptop that was not
functioning at the time.
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