old applications

  • Thread starter Fred Flintstone
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F

Fred Flintstone

hello,
some times old applicatons do run correct under Win2000, but they bring the
processor to run at 100%
in this case I am dealing with QuickBasic version 3.0
there is a method to make these old applications more compatible with
Win2000
unfortunately, I did forget how it is done
could you give me some clues
thnks
Fred
 
D

David H. Lipman

Have you tried running it/them under Win95 emulation ?

Dave


| hello,
| some times old applicatons do run correct under Win2000, but they bring the
| processor to run at 100%
| in this case I am dealing with QuickBasic version 3.0
| there is a method to make these old applications more compatible with
| Win2000
| unfortunately, I did forget how it is done
| could you give me some clues
| thnks
| Fred
|
|
 
D

David H. Lipman

I meant to say "have you tried executing them, with a LNK file uses the Win95 compatibility
mode".

Dave


| hello,
| some times old applicatons do run correct under Win2000, but they bring the
| processor to run at 100%
| in this case I am dealing with QuickBasic version 3.0
| there is a method to make these old applications more compatible with
| Win2000
| unfortunately, I did forget how it is done
| could you give me some clues
| thnks
| Fred
|
|
 
F

Fred Flintstone

thnks for yr quick reaction
I have opened een cmd and ran the executable
but dont remember how to run in some emulation mode
I must be getting old, lol
thnks
Fred
 
D

David H. Lipman

{ Please use the syntax of the English language so I, and others, can understand you. }

Basically you create a link (LNK file ) that points to the Executable.
Right Click on the link you just created and choose Properties.
Choose "Compatibility" from the Pull Down menu.
Put a mark in the box to "Run in compatibility mode".

Dave


| thnks for yr quick reaction
| I have opened een cmd and ran the executable
| but dont remember how to run in some emulation mode
| I must be getting old, lol
| thnks
| Fred
|
| "David H. Lipman" <[email protected]> schreef in bericht
| | > I meant to say "have you tried executing them, with a LNK file uses the
| Win95 compatibility
| > mode".
| >
| > Dave
| >
| >
| > | > | hello,
| > | some times old applicatons do run correct under Win2000, but they bring
| the
| > | processor to run at 100%
| > | in this case I am dealing with QuickBasic version 3.0
| > | there is a method to make these old applications more compatible with
| > | Win2000
| > | unfortunately, I did forget how it is done
| > | could you give me some clues
| > | thnks
| > | Fred
| > |
| > |
| >
| >
|
|
 
F

Fred Flintstone

I could be wrong, but the tab "Compatibilty" does apply to WinXP, rather
than to Win2000
Or am I completely mistaken here ?
thnks
Fred
 
D

David H. Lipman

You are wrong.

It is in Win2K and WinXP.

Dave


| I could be wrong, but the tab "Compatibilty" does apply to WinXP, rather
| than to Win2000
| Or am I completely mistaken here ?
| thnks
| Fred
|
| "David H. Lipman" <[email protected]> schreef in bericht
| | > { Please use the syntax of the English language so I, and others, can
| understand you. }
| >
| > Basically you create a link (LNK file ) that points to the Executable.
| > Right Click on the link you just created and choose Properties.
| > Choose "Compatibility" from the Pull Down menu.
| > Put a mark in the box to "Run in compatibility mode".
| >
| > Dave
| >
| >
| > | > | thnks for yr quick reaction
| > | I have opened een cmd and ran the executable
| > | but dont remember how to run in some emulation mode
| > | I must be getting old, lol
| > | thnks
| > | Fred
| > |
| > | "David H. Lipman" <[email protected]> schreef in bericht
| > | | > | > I meant to say "have you tried executing them, with a LNK file uses
| the
| > | Win95 compatibility
| > | > mode".
| > | >
| > | > Dave
| > | >
| > | >
| message
| > | > | > | > | hello,
| > | > | some times old applicatons do run correct under Win2000, but they
| bring
| > | the
| > | > | processor to run at 100%
| > | > | in this case I am dealing with QuickBasic version 3.0
| > | > | there is a method to make these old applications more compatible
| with
| > | > | Win2000
| > | > | unfortunately, I did forget how it is done
| > | > | could you give me some clues
| > | > | thnks
| > | > | Fred
| > | > |
| > | > |
| > | >
| > | >
| > |
| > |
| >
| >
|
|
 
F

Fred Flintstone

well, I have General, Program, Font, Memory, Screen and Misc.
it is Windows 2000, SP4, english version.
I have made a shortcut, as I normally do, but the tab Compatibility is not
there
beats me
thnks
Fred
 
D

David H. Lipman

Fred it's a pull down menu item for EXE shortcuts.

Translation was lost -- We talking a bout a DOS program running under Win2K !

If so then please reply back with the fully qualified path and name of executable. (e.g,
c:\file\pf.exe)

The objective is to try to make a shortcut such as...

%comspec% /e:1024 /c c:\file\pf.exe

Dave



| well, I have General, Program, Font, Memory, Screen and Misc.
| it is Windows 2000, SP4, english version.
| I have made a shortcut, as I normally do, but the tab Compatibility is not
| there
| beats me
| thnks
| Fred
|
|
| "David H. Lipman" <[email protected]> schreef in bericht
| | > You are wrong.
| >
| > It is in Win2K and WinXP.
| >
| > Dave
| >
| >
| > | > | I could be wrong, but the tab "Compatibilty" does apply to WinXP, rather
| > | than to Win2000
| > | Or am I completely mistaken here ?
| > | thnks
| > | Fred
| > |
| > | "David H. Lipman" <[email protected]> schreef in bericht
| > | | > | > { Please use the syntax of the English language so I, and others, can
| > | understand you. }
| > | >
| > | > Basically you create a link (LNK file ) that points to the Executable.
| > | > Right Click on the link you just created and choose Properties.
| > | > Choose "Compatibility" from the Pull Down menu.
| > | > Put a mark in the box to "Run in compatibility mode".
| > | >
| > | > Dave
| > | >
| > | >
| message
| > | > | > | > | thnks for yr quick reaction
| > | > | I have opened een cmd and ran the executable
| > | > | but dont remember how to run in some emulation mode
| > | > | I must be getting old, lol
| > | > | thnks
| > | > | Fred
| > | > |
| > | > | "David H. Lipman" <[email protected]> schreef in bericht
| > | > | | > | > | > I meant to say "have you tried executing them, with a LNK file
| uses
| > | the
| > | > | Win95 compatibility
| > | > | > mode".
| > | > | >
| > | > | > Dave
| > | > | >
| > | > | >
| > | message
| > | > | > | > | > | > | hello,
| > | > | > | some times old applicatons do run correct under Win2000, but
| they
| > | bring
| > | > | the
| > | > | > | processor to run at 100%
| > | > | > | in this case I am dealing with QuickBasic version 3.0
| > | > | > | there is a method to make these old applications more compatible
| > | with
| > | > | > | Win2000
| > | > | > | unfortunately, I did forget how it is done
| > | > | > | could you give me some clues
| > | > | > | thnks
| > | > | > | Fred
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > |
| > | > | >
| > | > | >
| > | > |
| > | > |
| > | >
| > | >
| > |
| > |
| >
| >
|
|
 
F

Fred Flintstone

Hello Dave,

It is a DOS program ceated with QuickBasic 3.0 and it is fully in ascii,
i.e. no graphics at all.

And it is now running on a PC with Win2K pro, SP4 The full path of the
executable is: C:\cmp-itho\start.exe This is the first of a set of small
programs that are chained and linked, as was customary at that time.

As soon as the start.exe is launched the processor runs at 100% A closer
look shows that it is ntvdm.exe, who takes all proceesor time. Apart from
that the whole system is doing fine.

Thanks for your help, so far

Fred
 
J

Joe McArthur

well, I have General, Program, Font, Memory, Screen and Misc.
it is Windows 2000, SP4, english version.
I have made a shortcut, as I normally do, but the tab Compatibility is
not there
beats me

FWIW, I don't see this option on my Win2k system either.

This thread intrigued me in as much as I was wondering if there might be
some kind of Win95 emulation/compatibility mode for device drivers. I have
a Visioneer scanner that works under Win95, but not Win2k. I don't mean to
hijack this thread, so if there is any merit at all to such a discussion,
I'll be glad to start a new one.

Joe
 
P

pre

Try this as a start:

From the "Run" box
regsvr32 %windir%\AppPatch\slayerui.dll
to enable application compatibility mode.

pre
 
D

David H. Lipman

Joe:

The executable that Fred was using is different from what you are using. He is using a
compiled EXE meant for DOS. You are using a TRUE Win32 program so if you create a LNK file
to the EXE file you should see the pull-down menu "compatibility" when you examine the
already created LNK file.

Dave



| |
| > well, I have General, Program, Font, Memory, Screen and Misc.
| > it is Windows 2000, SP4, english version.
| > I have made a shortcut, as I normally do, but the tab Compatibility is
| > not there
| > beats me
|
| FWIW, I don't see this option on my Win2k system either.
|
| This thread intrigued me in as much as I was wondering if there might be
| some kind of Win95 emulation/compatibility mode for device drivers. I have
| a Visioneer scanner that works under Win95, but not Win2k. I don't mean to
| hijack this thread, so if there is any merit at all to such a discussion,
| I'll be glad to start a new one.
|
| Joe
 
D

David H. Lipman

Fred:

Have you tried creating a LNK file to the START.EXE file and then change the commandline
to:

%comspec% /e:1024 /c C:\cmp-itho\start.exe

Otherwise a function in an OBJ file might be the culprit and if so I have no other
ideas....

Dave


| Hello Dave,
|
| It is a DOS program ceated with QuickBasic 3.0 and it is fully in ascii,
| i.e. no graphics at all.
|
| And it is now running on a PC with Win2K pro, SP4 The full path of the
| executable is: C:\cmp-itho\start.exe This is the first of a set of small
| programs that are chained and linked, as was customary at that time.
|
| As soon as the start.exe is launched the processor runs at 100% A closer
| look shows that it is ntvdm.exe, who takes all proceesor time. Apart from
| that the whole system is doing fine.
|
| Thanks for your help, so far
|
| Fred
|
|
|
| "David H. Lipman" <[email protected]> schreef in bericht
| | > Fred it's a pull down menu item for EXE shortcuts.
| >
| > Translation was lost -- We talking a bout a DOS program running under
| Win2K !
| >
| > If so then please reply back with the fully qualified path and name of
| executable. (e.g,
| > c:\file\pf.exe)
| >
| > The objective is to try to make a shortcut such as...
| >
| > %comspec% /e:1024 /c c:\file\pf.exe
| >
| > Dave
| >
| >
| >
| > | > | well, I have General, Program, Font, Memory, Screen and Misc.
| > | it is Windows 2000, SP4, english version.
| > | I have made a shortcut, as I normally do, but the tab Compatibility is
| not
| > | there
| > | beats me
| > | thnks
| > | Fred
| > |
| > |
| > | "David H. Lipman" <[email protected]> schreef in bericht
| > | | > | > You are wrong.
| > | >
| > | > It is in Win2K and WinXP.
| > | >
| > | > Dave
| > | >
| > | >
| message
| > | > | > | > | I could be wrong, but the tab "Compatibilty" does apply to WinXP,
| rather
| > | > | than to Win2000
| > | > | Or am I completely mistaken here ?
| > | > | thnks
| > | > | Fred
| > | > |
| > | > | "David H. Lipman" <[email protected]> schreef in bericht
| > | > | | > | > | > { Please use the syntax of the English language so I, and others,
| can
| > | > | understand you. }
| > | > | >
| > | > | > Basically you create a link (LNK file ) that points to the
| Executable.
| > | > | > Right Click on the link you just created and choose Properties.
| > | > | > Choose "Compatibility" from the Pull Down menu.
| > | > | > Put a mark in the box to "Run in compatibility mode".
| > | > | >
| > | > | > Dave
| > | > | >
| > | > | >
| > | message
| > | > | > | > | > | > | thnks for yr quick reaction
| > | > | > | I have opened een cmd and ran the executable
| > | > | > | but dont remember how to run in some emulation mode
| > | > | > | I must be getting old, lol
| > | > | > | thnks
| > | > | > | Fred
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | "David H. Lipman" <[email protected]> schreef in
| bericht
| > | > | > | | > | > | > | > I meant to say "have you tried executing them, with a LNK file
| > | uses
| > | > | the
| > | > | > | Win95 compatibility
| > | > | > | > mode".
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > Dave
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | >
| in
| > | > | message
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | hello,
| > | > | > | > | some times old applicatons do run correct under Win2000, but
| > | they
| > | > | bring
| > | > | > | the
| > | > | > | > | processor to run at 100%
| > | > | > | > | in this case I am dealing with QuickBasic version 3.0
| > | > | > | > | there is a method to make these old applications more
| compatible
| > | > | with
| > | > | > | > | Win2000
| > | > | > | > | unfortunately, I did forget how it is done
| > | > | > | > | could you give me some clues
| > | > | > | > | thnks
| > | > | > | > | Fred
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > |
| > | > | >
| > | > | >
| > | > |
| > | > |
| > | >
| > | >
| > |
| > |
| >
| >
|
|
 
J

Joe McArthur

Joe:

The executable that Fred was using is different from what you are
using. He is using a compiled EXE meant for DOS.

Yes, I understood that. To be precise, a DOS EXE file is both compiled and
link-edited. Of course it's totally unnecessary and redundant to make such
a qualification.
You are using a TRUE Win32 program so if you create a LNK file to the
EXE file you should see the pull-down menu "compatibility" when you
examine the already created LNK file.

When you say "create a LNK file to the EXE", I assume you mean - create a
shortcut to the program. If you meant something else, please let me know.

Although your wording above implies that the "EXE" file referred to is a
"win32" program, I suspect you really meant it to refer to a DOS program.

Either way there is no compatibility mode option on any pull-down menu for
shortcuts (at least not on my Win2k pro system there isn't). In other
words, I can create a shortcut to either a DOs or 32-bit Windows program,
then click on the Properties tab for said shortcut and there is no
compatibility mode option pull-down menu.

Joe
 
F

Fred Flintstone

sorry to disappoint you
Win2000 Pro SP4 english
definitely
I can send you a gif-file with the properties of MyComputer
thnks
Fred
 
D

David H. Lipman

Fred:

As you can see, there is NO compatibility mode for MS-DOS programs.

Dave


| well, I did un the regsrv32, as suggested
| from the attachment you can see, that I still don't have the compatibility
| tab
| may be this attachement, called non_compat.gif can help
| thnks
| Fred
|
|
| "pre" <[email protected]> schreef in bericht
| | > Try this as a start:
| >
| > From the "Run" box
| > regsvr32 %windir%\AppPatch\slayerui.dll
| > to enable application compatibility mode.
| >
| > pre
| >
| > | > > well, I have General, Program, Font, Memory, Screen and Misc.
| > > it is Windows 2000, SP4, english version.
| > > I have made a shortcut, as I normally do, but the tab Compatibility is
| not
| > > there
| > > beats me
| > > thnks
| > > Fred
| > >
| > >
| > > "David H. Lipman" <[email protected]> schreef in bericht
| > > | > > > You are wrong.
| > > >
| > > > It is in Win2K and WinXP.
| > > >
| > > > Dave
| > > >
| > > >
| message
| > > > | > > > | I could be wrong, but the tab "Compatibilty" does apply to WinXP,
| > rather
| > > > | than to Win2000
| > > > | Or am I completely mistaken here ?
| > > > | thnks
| > > > | Fred
| > > > |
| > > > | "David H. Lipman" <[email protected]> schreef in bericht
| > > > | | > > > | > { Please use the syntax of the English language so I, and others,
| > can
| > > > | understand you. }
| > > > | >
| > > > | > Basically you create a link (LNK file ) that points to the
| > Executable.
| > > > | > Right Click on the link you just created and choose Properties.
| > > > | > Choose "Compatibility" from the Pull Down menu.
| > > > | > Put a mark in the box to "Run in compatibility mode".
| > > > | >
| > > > | > Dave
| > > > | >
| > > > | >
| > > message
| > > > | > | > > > | > | thnks for yr quick reaction
| > > > | > | I have opened een cmd and ran the executable
| > > > | > | but dont remember how to run in some emulation mode
| > > > | > | I must be getting old, lol
| > > > | > | thnks
| > > > | > | Fred
| > > > | > |
| > > > | > | "David H. Lipman" <[email protected]> schreef in
| bericht
| > > > | > | | > > > | > | > I meant to say "have you tried executing them, with a LNK file
| > > uses
| > > > | the
| > > > | > | Win95 compatibility
| > > > | > | > mode".
| > > > | > | >
| > > > | > | > Dave
| > > > | > | >
| > > > | > | >
| in
| > > > | message
| > > > | > | > | > > > | > | > | hello,
| > > > | > | > | some times old applicatons do run correct under Win2000, but
| > > they
| > > > | bring
| > > > | > | the
| > > > | > | > | processor to run at 100%
| > > > | > | > | in this case I am dealing with QuickBasic version 3.0
| > > > | > | > | there is a method to make these old applications more
| > compatible
| > > > | with
| > > > | > | > | Win2000
| > > > | > | > | unfortunately, I did forget how it is done
| > > > | > | > | could you give me some clues
| > > > | > | > | thnks
| > > > | > | > | Fred
| > > > | > | > |
| > > > | > | > |
| > > > | > | >
| > > > | > | >
| > > > | > |
| > > > | > |
| > > > | >
| > > > | >
| > > > |
| > > > |
| > > >
| > > >
| > >
| > >
| >
| >
|
|
|
|
 
J

Joe McArthur

Dave, please refrain from attaching graphic images to your posts. Besides
being inappropriate, as you yourself acknowledged in the previous post, my
newsreader cannot handle them (can't see the image and reader gets stuck in
a loop trying to read it).

Joe
 
D

David H. Lipman

Joe:

A picture is worth a thousand words. While this is not a named 'binary' News Group, the
host does allow it. As for your news reader -- Junk Xnews and get a better one as the
attachment is only 25KB, a standard GIF file and it wasn't posted in an abnormal fashion.

I usually don't post binaries to MS News Groups but, this thread is/was an exception and
like I said -- The Jersey Devil made me do it :)


back to the TOPIC at hand - Win2K and WinXP certainly do have a Win95 compatibility moder
for Win32 executables. there is NO compatibility mode for DOS executables and there are
different types of ShortCuts and that is why I specifically stated LNK file.

Dave


| Dave, please refrain from attaching graphic images to your posts. Besides
| being inappropriate, as you yourself acknowledged in the previous post, my
| newsreader cannot handle them (can't see the image and reader gets stuck in
| a loop trying to read it).
|
| Joe
 

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