Okay, I SWEAR..

[Guest]

....I've done everything everyone has said to do to change the font in my
navigation bars. (Well, um, at least I think I have...) Here's what I did:
1. Customized the theme and saved it under a new name
2. Set the default theme as "no theme"
3. Then applied the new theme to all pages
4. Republished all pages

Still not working. What, oh what, am I doing wrong?

 

[Guest]

Forgot to post my url: www.barboconnor.com.

 

[Guest]

What are the default settings in the html window? Is this a font that is
supported by your computer?

or there is this option too

On the Format menu, click Theme.
In the list, click the theme you want to modify.
Click Modify, and then click Text.
In the Item box, click the style you want to change, and then under Font,
click the font you want to use.
Repeat this step for each style you want to change.

To change styles further, for example to change the font attributes for a
particular style, click More Text Styles, modify styles as needed, and then
click OK to return to the Modify Theme dialog box. For information about
modifying styles, see Modify a style for a page.
Note You will not see the results of your style changes unless you apply
the theme using cascading style sheets (when you apply the theme, select the
Apply using CSS check box). These style changes will not be reflected in the
Sample of Theme preview.

Click OK.
Click Save As.
Type a new name for the theme (unless you have modified a custom theme), and
then click OK.
Apply the new theme to the web or to selected pages.

 

[Guest]

Did you try this also?
In Page view, open the page to which you want to apply a theme.
On the Format menu, click Theme.
Under Apply Theme to, Selected pages is selected.

In the list, click the theme you want to apply (to apply the web's default
theme setting, click Default). A preview of the theme is displayed under
Sample of Theme.
You can also select any of the following check boxes to set the appearance
of the theme:

To use a bright color scheme, select the Vivid colors check box. Clear this
check box to use the normal color set.
To use a lively set of banners, buttons, bullets, and other graphical
elements, select the Active graphics check box. For example, select this
check box if you want to use hover buttons instead of plain buttons. Clear
this check box to use the normal graphic set.
To use a background picture, select the Background picture check box.
To use an external style sheet with the theme (rather than reformatting the
page's HTML code to apply the theme), select the Apply using CSS check box.
You should also select this check box if you are using a theme for which you
have modified the styles. However, this feature is not supported in older Web
browsers or on FrontPage 98 Web servers.
Note When this check box is selected, horizontal lines will not be
displayed.

 

[Stefan B Rusynko]

What font size are you setting for what them element that is not getting it?

PS
remove all spaces from all file names as in (whats new.htm) which becomes (whats%20new.htm)
- use an under_score as in whats_new.htm

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| Forgot to post my url: www.barboconnor.com.
|
| "Barbara" wrote:
|
| > ...I've done everything everyone has said to do to change the font in my
| > navigation bars. (Well, um, at least I think I have...) Here's what I did:
| > 1. Customized the theme and saved it under a new name
| > 2. Set the default theme as "no theme"
| > 3. Then applied the new theme to all pages
| > 4. Republished all pages
| >
| > Still not working. What, oh what, am I doing wrong?

 

[Guest]

Thanks, guys - I'll try your suggestions and keep my fingers crossed. I'm
trying to change the font in the navigation bar from Comic Sans to Georgia.

And, well, okay, stupid question, but can someone explain in 20 words or
less what a cascading style sheet is?

I do appreciate you all taking time to help.

 

[P@tty Ayers]

And, well, okay, stupid question, but can someone explain in 20 words or
less what a cascading style sheet is?

----------------------------------------------------

A cascading style sheet is a set of rules which provides style information
for how a web browser should display an HTML page.

----------------------------------------------------

Can I have more than those 20 words? Cascading Style Sheets provide
style information that can be referenced by multiple web pages, thus
allowing you to create a consistent look over an entire web site. CSS styles
define appearance and formatting of content on web pages and allow authors
more control over how content is displayed in browsers.

Style sheets contain a set of rules that define how a web browser should
display an HTML page. Advantages of using CSS rather than HTML formatting
are that style is controlled globally and any changes are propagated to all
HTML pages, HTML code is physically smaller, often by 50% or so, resulting
in faster download, and accessibility is improved.

CSSs separate the presentation style of documents from the content of
documents, and thereby simplify Web authoring and site maintenance.

My favorite beginner tutorial: http://spider-food.net/css.html .

 

[Guest]

Thanks for the CSS lesson. I get it (I think). So a theme IS a CSS, right?

BUT, the above posts said to make sure the Apply CSS box is checked. Where
the heck IS that box. I've looked and looked and don't see where I'm supposed
to do that.

Sigh...

 

[P@tty Ayers]

Thanks for the CSS lesson. I get it (I think). So a theme IS a CSS, right?

BUT, the above posts said to make sure the Apply CSS box is checked. Where
the heck IS that box. I've looked and looked and don't see where I'm
supposed
to do that.

Here's where my lack of knowledge of FP becomes obvious - I don't know the
answer to either question. Hopefully someone else does. Sorry to not be of
more help.

 

[Murray]

I have to admit, I can't find that checkbox either (FP2003)! I can follow
up to that point, but that's where I drop off the edge....

 

[Joe Rohn]

Hi Folks,

I think it is because the instructions given were for FP 2002. The FP 2003
version works differently with themes, and you won't find that check box.

--
Joe

FrontPage Users Forums:
http://www.timeforweb.com/frontpage

I have to admit, I can't find that checkbox either (FP2003)! I can follow
up to that point, but that's where I drop off the edge....

 

[Murray]

Well, that would explain it! 8)

--
Murray
============

Hi Folks,

I think it is because the instructions given were for FP 2002. The FP 2003
version works differently with themes, and you won't find that check box.

 

[Guest]

So now what do I do? I just can't get those darned navigation bar fonts to
change no matter WHAT I do. Do I just live with Comic Sans and get over it?

 

[Rob Giordano \(Crash\)]

I think in 2003 there is no CSS check box for themes because it
automatically uses CSS...look in the themes folder and you'll see the CSS
sheets - you can modify them there.

4give me if I'm wrong, I've only been messin with 03 for a couple of days.

I have to admit, I can't find that checkbox either (FP2003)! I can follow
up to that point, but that's where I drop off the edge....

 

[Ronx]

You can change them there - but the changes will not hold. The changes
will revert when you publish or update hyperlinks.
FP2003 only applies themes using CSS, previous versions gave a choice
of CSS or HTML <font> tags.
--
Ron Symonds
Microsoft MVP (FrontPage)
Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.

I think in 2003 there is no CSS check box for themes because it
automatically uses CSS...look in the themes folder and you'll see
the CSS sheets - you can modify them there.

4give me if I'm wrong, I've only been messin with 03 for a couple of
days.

 

[Ronx]

To change the font in vertical navigation images:
Open a page with the theme.
Format->Theme
Select the theme in the task bar and choose Customize from the
dropdown
Click Graphics
Choose Vertical Navigation from the Item dropdown menu
On the Font tag, choose the font, size etc.
Click OK
Click Save As and choose a new name
Click OK

Then as you did before, remove the old theme and apply the new.

PS - your graphics on the home page are huge - they should be
optimised to make loading a lot faster. The Home page should have a
total size (including images) of not more than 60KB so it loads in 15
seconds or so on a slow dialup. - yours appears to be 380KB, a little
on the large side.

 

[Rob Giordano \(Crash\)]

You're right, I found that out after I posted that...couldnt get changes to
stick.

 

[Guest]

I hate to beat a dead horse, but I SWEAR I've done all the steps everyone
told me to - saving new theme, removing old theme, applying new theme, yada
yada. But nothing works. This is becoming my life's goal, just for the
principal of the dang thing.

Ron: thanks for the tip on the large graphics. Will fix.

 

[fido]

I hate to beat a dead horse, but I SWEAR I've done all the steps everyone
told me to - saving new theme, removing old theme, applying new theme, yada
yada. But nothing works. This is becoming my life's goal, just for the
principal of the dang thing.

I'm sure we're not addressing the question here. I don't know about FP
later than 2000 but I'm looking at that huge CSS and seeing the
following:

..mstheme-vert-navtxt
{
font-family: Sylfaen;
color: rgb(0, 0, 0);
font-size: 3;
font-style: normal;
font-weight: bold;
text-align: center;
vertical-align: middle;
}

Now I have the Sylfaen font on my machine so if the CSS is doing its
stuff I should be seeing it. So something else, either lower down in
the CSS, or lower down the cascade, is telling the vertical navbar to
display Comic Sans.

Further down the CSS, we have this:

..mstheme-vert-navtxt-g
{
font-family: Comic Sans MS;
color: rgb(0, 0, 0);
font-size: 3;
font-style: normal;
font-weight: bold;
text-align: center;
vertical-align: middle;
}

and this:

..mstheme-vert-navtxt
{
font-family: Comic Sans MS;
color: rgb(0, 0, 0);
font-size: 3;
font-style: normal;
font-weight: bold;
text-align: center;
vertical-align: middle;
}

Could either of those classes be relevant in this case?

fido

 

[Stefan B Rusynko]

FYI

Editing any FP theme .css file does not stick in FP
- FP will reread the original .css from the compacted theme .elm file whenever you recalculate hyperlinks or open / apply the theme

Always edit the theme in FP, not it's .css files
For info on how to unpack a theme .elm file and edit it's packed .css files see
http://sbrenjoy.bizland.com/frontpage/themes/newthemes.html#Granular

And yes there are multiple references to theme fonts in the Theme css files & below is what they are used for:
graph0.css - Normal Graphics Selections / Changes to theme (from .elm file)
graph1.css - Active Graphics Selections / Changes to theme (from .elm file)
color0.css - Normal Color Selections / Changes to theme (from .elm file)
color1.css - Active Color Selections / Changes to theme (from .elm file)
theme.css - Font Selections to theme
custom.css - Created only if you modify a theme, collects Changes to above & any styles
themename1111.css - Created only if you Apply theme using css - combines All of above


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| On Sun, 31 Jul 2005 06:12:05 -0700, "Barbara"
|
| >I hate to beat a dead horse, but I SWEAR I've done all the steps everyone
| >told me to - saving new theme, removing old theme, applying new theme, yada
| >yada. But nothing works. This is becoming my life's goal, just for the
| >principal of the dang thing.
|
| I'm sure we're not addressing the question here. I don't know about FP
| later than 2000 but I'm looking at that huge CSS and seeing the
| following:
|
| .mstheme-vert-navtxt
| {
| font-family: Sylfaen;
| color: rgb(0, 0, 0);
| font-size: 3;
| font-style: normal;
| font-weight: bold;
| text-align: center;
| vertical-align: middle;
| }
|
| Now I have the Sylfaen font on my machine so if the CSS is doing its
| stuff I should be seeing it. So something else, either lower down in
| the CSS, or lower down the cascade, is telling the vertical navbar to
| display Comic Sans.
|
| Further down the CSS, we have this:
|
| .mstheme-vert-navtxt-g
| {
| font-family: Comic Sans MS;
| color: rgb(0, 0, 0);
| font-size: 3;
| font-style: normal;
| font-weight: bold;
| text-align: center;
| vertical-align: middle;
| }
|
| and this:
|
| .mstheme-vert-navtxt
| {
| font-family: Comic Sans MS;
| color: rgb(0, 0, 0);
| font-size: 3;
| font-style: normal;
| font-weight: bold;
| text-align: center;
| vertical-align: middle;
| }
|
| Could either of those classes be relevant in this case?
|
| fido