OEM

[DM]

Yea, another guy also told the boss he could make the weekly staff meeting
PowerPoint charts say what ever he wanted the big boss to see too.

 

[The poster formerly known as 'The Poster Formerly]

And just who found this out? What a bunch of FUD. How can anyone possibly
come up with this kind of statistic?

Cheers.

Don't hold your breath for a reply from Carey, he never backs up what he
says.

--
"Fair use is not merely a nice concept--it is a federal law based on
free speech rights under the First Amendment and is a cornerstone of the
creativity and innovation that is a hallmark of this country. Consumer
rights in the digital age are not frivolous."
- Maura Corbett

 

[The poster formerly known as 'The Poster Formerly]

In tests conducted by Microsoft of 115 copies of physical media purchased on eBay,
39 percent were found to be counterfeit, and another 12 percent contained software
that was either counterfeit or had been tampered with. Overall, the study found, the
chances of purchasing genuine, legally licensed Microsoft software on eBay is less than 50 percent.

Ref: http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2006/oct06/10-31AuctionEnforcementPR.mspx

IDC Research: http://www.idc.com/research/reshome.jsp

Wow, I'm impressed you bothered responding at all. To bad it was with a
source full of FUD!

--
"Fair use is not merely a nice concept--it is a federal law based on
free speech rights under the First Amendment and is a cornerstone of the
creativity and innovation that is a hallmark of this country. Consumer
rights in the digital age are not frivolous."
- Maura Corbett

 

[NoStop]

In tests conducted by Microsoft of 115 copies of physical media purchased
on eBay, 39 percent were found to be counterfeit, and another 12 percent
contained software that was either counterfeit or had been tampered with.
Overall, the study found, the chances of purchasing genuine, legally
licensed Microsoft software on eBay is less than 50 percent.

And you believe Microsoft when it comes to their "statistics"? You're one
sad mofo. Guess that's how you won your MVP "award".

Cheers.

Ref:
http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2006/oct06/10-31AuctionEnforcementPR.mspx

IDC Research: http://www.idc.com/research/reshome.jsp

--
What does Bill Gates use?
http://tinyurl.com/2zxhdl

Proprietary Software: a 20th Century software business model.

Be Afraid ... Be Very Afraid ... of Francis' RELATIVES!

Frank, hard at work on his Vista computer all day:
http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/compost.htm

 

[NoStop]

Yeah, right...here we have our resident lying linux troll saying that
test conducted by MS and posted by Carey are invalid.
Your hatred for MS knows no boundaries does it?

Our knowledge of what a weasel Microsoft has been and continues to be, is
all the proof we need to question Microsoft's claims about anything. They
lie almost as much as you do Francis.

Frank

Cheers.

--
What does Bill Gates use?
http://tinyurl.com/2zxhdl

Proprietary Software: a 20th Century software business model.

Be Afraid ... Be Very Afraid ... of Francis' RELATIVES!

Frank, hard at work on his Vista computer all day:
http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/compost.htm

 

[NoStop]

This is a FUD campaign. E-bay is a buyer beware operation. The
attraction
is for good buys. You must use the system features to your benefit to
reduce the odds of getting burnt. I bought at least 20 copies of XP
upgrades and never had a bad transaction. You have to be careful. If you
don't know the system, then and only then I would not recommend dealing.

Strange how that is the experience of most purchasers, but when Microsoft
does the same, it found all those problems. Really, no one with half a
brain (obviously that excludes Francis) believes anything that Microsoft
has to say, or the MVP's that suck up to Microsoft.

Cheers.

--
What does Bill Gates use?
http://tinyurl.com/2zxhdl

Proprietary Software: a 20th Century software business model.

Be Afraid ... Be Very Afraid ... of Francis' RELATIVES!

Frank, hard at work on his Vista computer all day:
http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/compost.htm

 

[Jim]

I have NEVER bought a retail version of windows. All OEM on eBay.
Including 1 WIN 98 3 XP's and 1 Vista.
Buy from a dealer with decent feedback who has sold other copies of Vista
that you want.

I have transferred licenses from WIN 98 and Two XP licensees.
When and IF you have you have to do phone activation, tell them your HDD
died.
Not sure how this would pan out for Vista though.
Honest? Maybe not, but fair? I think so.

 

[Jim]

BS. I have NEVER bought software anyplace else.

 

[Jim]

BS. More FUD from Micro$oft.

In tests conducted by Microsoft of 115 copies of physical media purchased
on eBay,
39 percent were found to be counterfeit, and another 12 percent contained
software
that was either counterfeit or had been tampered with. Overall, the study
found, the
chances of purchasing genuine, legally licensed Microsoft software on eBay
is less than 50 percent.

Ref:
http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2006/oct06/10-31AuctionEnforcementPR.mspx

IDC Research: http://www.idc.com/research/reshome.jsp

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows Shell/User

---------------------------------------------------------------

:




So says Carey. I'm dave and say otherwise. My info is coming off the top
of my head. Carey, your info is coming from where? Keep in mind studies
can be misleading but we can make up our own mind on them.

There is feedback on the seller that one can read and decide if the
software
is worth purchasing.

 

[Frank]

Bob F. wrote:



Strange how that is the experience of most purchasers, but when Microsoft
does the same, it found all those problems. Really, no one with half a
brain (obviously that excludes Francis) believes anything that Microsoft
has to say, or the MVP's that suck up to Microsoft.

Cheers.

Why are you here? You're sick and consumed by your hatred of MS. I also
notice that I'm in control of your emotions...how wonderful huh?
You must be one dumb POS!
Frank

 

[Frank]

Frank wrote:




Our knowledge of what a weasel Microsoft has been and continues to be, is
all the proof we need to question Microsoft's claims about anything. They
lie almost as much as you do Francis.




Cheers.

Why are you here? You're sick and consumed by your hatred of MS. I also
notice that I'm in control of your emotions...how wonderful huh?
You must be one dumb POS!
Frank

 

[Frank]

Carey Frisch [MVP] wrote:



And you believe Microsoft when it comes to their "statistics"? You're one
sad mofo. Guess that's how you won your MVP "award".

Cheers.

Why are you here? You're sick and consumed by your hatred of MS. I also
notice that I'm ion control of your emotions...how wonderful huh?
You must be one dumb POS!
Frank

 

[Jim]

Why are you here? You're sick and consumed by your hatred of MS. I also
notice that I'm in control of your emotions...how wonderful huh?
You must be one dumb POS!
Frank

Control of your emotions?? Your kidding right??
YOU are the one who started an entire thread and keeps whining.

 

[NoStop]

Why are you here? You're sick and consumed by your hatred of MS. I also
notice that I'm ion control of your emotions...how wonderful huh?
You must be one dumb POS!
Frank

Tonight is going to be great Francis. Yummmy! They're serving steamed Kraft
Dinner for supper at the Institution tonight. Enjoy!

Oh yeh, don't remove that cork from your fork. It's there to protect you
when you miss your mouth and hit an eyeball.

Remember, it's lights out at 9PM. Then you can get back to that fun stuff
you like to do with your buddy Bill Yawn. You might even get to be
the "top" tonight if you ask him nicely.

Cheers.

--
What does Bill Gates use?
http://tinyurl.com/2zxhdl

Proprietary Software: a 20th Century software business model.

Be Afraid ... Be Very Afraid ... of Francis' RELATIVES!

Frank, hard at work on his Vista computer all day:
http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/compost.htm

 

[Frank]

Control of your emotions?? Your kidding right??
YOU are the one who started an entire thread and keeps whining.

Wrong you stupid POS lying mf'er!
You're an idiot!
You're butt-buddy alias started it!
As*hole!
Frank

 

[Jim]

Wrong you stupid POS lying mf'er!
You're an idiot!
You're butt-buddy alias started it!
As*hole!
Frank

You're butt-buddy alias started it!>

And it's up to you to finish it Mr. Balless
How about it?

 

[Not Me]

You can manipulate statistics in many ways.
It's all about perspective.

Like a tree full of Monkeys
If you are the top monkey and look down, you see all smiling faces trying to
climb to where you are.
If you're the bottom monkey, looking up, all you see are butts.

And, yes, 5 out of 4 people have trouble with fractions and statistics.

 

[Alias]

Wrong you stupid POS lying mf'er!
You're an idiot!
You're butt-buddy alias started it!
As*hole!
Frank

Not true. DM started the thread.

Alias

 

[Ronnie Vernon MVP]

I have been thinking of this issue for a while. Not only for Microsoft but
for any software.

Any hardware, appliance, DVD, cd, vhs, furniture, house, car, etc. we can
buy/sell/trade to anyone but not software. Why is it that most digital
products with licenses cant be yard saled away like ma's old sewing
machine? What happened to the 9/10 rule? My car has a title, license if
you will, and I can sell it to anyone. My autographed babe ruth card has a
certificate of authenticity, license if you will, and I can sell it.

DM

The difference is that you buy a 'license' to 'use' the software.

There are differences between buying a license to use a product as opposed
to buying the product. Just like you cannot copy or sell the license you
buy for your car or use that license for other cars that you own, software
has the same restriction.Software is considered to be intellectual property.

The difference between the OEM license and the Retail license is that the
OEM license is sold to a vendor, at a substantial discount. In return for
this discount the OEM software can only be installed on one computer.

 

[Alias]

DM

The difference is that you buy a 'license' to 'use' the software.

Yet every single retail store, on line or mortar, says they sell
"software" and not a word about licenses. Naturally, people think they
are buying software and are surprised to find out they have been conned
by Ye Olde Bait and Switch.

Snip FUD to support the License Bait and Switch Con.

Alias