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not found at startup. Where would one start ?
i.e.
What do you do when, (barring a bad disk), on an Compaq PIII 800 NT machine,
....after installing crap NT updates from MS, at boot up, you get,
"....unable to find NTOSkrnl.exe ...{and to paraphrase}.....you must slap a
new copy of this file in your %SystemRoot%\SYSTEM32 directory" ????
Preliminary dabbling so far :-
Can. seem to find an NT general NG ...if I type "windowsnt" (without the
quotes), in that instant db filter type slot in OE6's NG thingy, I can see
all the NT NG's but, not sure which one to use. But seeing as all the real
brains are in here and microsoft.public.w98.gen_discussion, I thought I'd
try in here
I Googled on
"ntoskrnl.exe site:microsoft.com" and found
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;138713 which seems
to have a bearing on it i.e.
"For a single processor system, copy the NTOSKRNL.EXE file from the Windows
NT 3.51 Service Pack to the %SystemRoot%\SYSTEM32 directory."
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=197295 seems to have some
bearing.
The chap that 'phoned me owned up to having installed service packs online
from MS, (this seems to have caused his start up problem), and indeed I
spotted several MS kb's all to do with problems and known issues NT suffers
from, particularly after installing recent NT service packs and updates etc.
The first thing that I told him was to find someone who knows NT, and to
stop fiddling with it himself, (he admitted that he'd booted up from a W98
floppy to try and copy NTOSKRNL.EXE that he'd found on the web, onto his
%SystemRoot%\SYSTEM32 directory. ...well I asked a few questions out of
interest, and as he was working from W98 floppy boot up, (on an NT NTFS
partition ...can you do that !#!~ :-( ? ....) ...but, DOS couldn't see his
winnt directory, or at least I couldn't help him find it, and it's
ridiculous trying to do that sort of thing on the 'phone, especially when
the person at the other end can't talk DOS or even describe a DOS response a
fter hitting the [Enter] key. You get to the point where you feel like
saying. "For f***s sake.....after you hit the [Enter] key, what appeared
below the line where you typed the command..."
Then it came to light that the PC is connected to a network ! I asked him
if it was a diskless node, and he asked me what that was ...anyway I gave
up, and after advising for the umpteenth time that he should really get in
touch with somebody that knows NT, I managed to hang up !
....anyway, I post in here out of curiosity. Can you make a NT boot up
floppy and work in DOS like you could in W98, or is it like XP and there
isn't a real boot to DOS ?
....and as it was a Compaq PIII 800, I suspect there is a recovery procedure,
extra drive, ...drive image, hidden partition... etc. in there somewhere
but, I suspect that restoring the boot drive to original configuration would
possibly wipe any user data on that same drive. ...I do go on....
So, what do you do when, (barring a bad hd), on an Compaq NT machine,
....after installing crap NT updates from MS, at boot up, you get,
"....unable to find NTOSkrnl.exe ...{and to paraphrase}.....you must slap a
new copy of this file in your %SystemRoot%\SYSTEM32 directory" ????
regards, Richard
i.e.
What do you do when, (barring a bad disk), on an Compaq PIII 800 NT machine,
....after installing crap NT updates from MS, at boot up, you get,
"....unable to find NTOSkrnl.exe ...{and to paraphrase}.....you must slap a
new copy of this file in your %SystemRoot%\SYSTEM32 directory" ????
Preliminary dabbling so far :-
Can. seem to find an NT general NG ...if I type "windowsnt" (without the
quotes), in that instant db filter type slot in OE6's NG thingy, I can see
all the NT NG's but, not sure which one to use. But seeing as all the real
brains are in here and microsoft.public.w98.gen_discussion, I thought I'd
try in here
I Googled on
"ntoskrnl.exe site:microsoft.com" and found
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;138713 which seems
to have a bearing on it i.e.
"For a single processor system, copy the NTOSKRNL.EXE file from the Windows
NT 3.51 Service Pack to the %SystemRoot%\SYSTEM32 directory."
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=197295 seems to have some
bearing.
The chap that 'phoned me owned up to having installed service packs online
from MS, (this seems to have caused his start up problem), and indeed I
spotted several MS kb's all to do with problems and known issues NT suffers
from, particularly after installing recent NT service packs and updates etc.
The first thing that I told him was to find someone who knows NT, and to
stop fiddling with it himself, (he admitted that he'd booted up from a W98
floppy to try and copy NTOSKRNL.EXE that he'd found on the web, onto his
%SystemRoot%\SYSTEM32 directory. ...well I asked a few questions out of
interest, and as he was working from W98 floppy boot up, (on an NT NTFS
partition ...can you do that !#!~ :-( ? ....) ...but, DOS couldn't see his
winnt directory, or at least I couldn't help him find it, and it's
ridiculous trying to do that sort of thing on the 'phone, especially when
the person at the other end can't talk DOS or even describe a DOS response a
fter hitting the [Enter] key. You get to the point where you feel like
saying. "For f***s sake.....after you hit the [Enter] key, what appeared
below the line where you typed the command..."
Then it came to light that the PC is connected to a network ! I asked him
if it was a diskless node, and he asked me what that was ...anyway I gave
up, and after advising for the umpteenth time that he should really get in
touch with somebody that knows NT, I managed to hang up !
....anyway, I post in here out of curiosity. Can you make a NT boot up
floppy and work in DOS like you could in W98, or is it like XP and there
isn't a real boot to DOS ?
....and as it was a Compaq PIII 800, I suspect there is a recovery procedure,
extra drive, ...drive image, hidden partition... etc. in there somewhere
but, I suspect that restoring the boot drive to original configuration would
possibly wipe any user data on that same drive. ...I do go on....
So, what do you do when, (barring a bad hd), on an Compaq NT machine,
....after installing crap NT updates from MS, at boot up, you get,
"....unable to find NTOSkrnl.exe ...{and to paraphrase}.....you must slap a
new copy of this file in your %SystemRoot%\SYSTEM32 directory" ????
regards, Richard