ntldr missing

A

Agent Rock

Alright. Here's my problem. I was playing a game last night when my
computer froze up. Unable to do anything, I ended up having to turn my
computer off (not shut it down). When I went to restart it, Windows wouldn't
load. It would get to the loading screen and then my computer would restart.
I was upset because I just had my computer in the shop less than a month ago
for a system restore and a new harddrive and didn't want to have to bring it
in again. So, I mention to a friend of mine my problem and that I was
thinking of just doing the system restore that was on my comp but he said not
to, that he could fix it.

Well, he didn't, he made it worst. What he ended up doing from what he told
me, he downloaded the Setup Disks from the Microsoft site in order to run
some recovery thing. However, what it ended up doing was starting a new
install of Windows (he says) that ended up needing the Windows XP
installation disc. Which of course I don't have since my computer came with
it installed. Now, when I try to start my comp, I get "NTLDR" not found.
And I can't even run the Compaq system restore like I originally wanted to.

Okay, here's my questions: How screwed up am I now? and How do I go about
fixing this?
 
J

Jose

Alright.  Here's my problem.  I was playing a game last night when my
computer froze up.  Unable to do anything, I ended up having to turn my
computer off (not shut it down).  When I went to restart it, Windows wouldn't
load.  It would get to the loading screen and then my computer would restart.
 I was upset because I just had my computer in the shop less than a month ago
for a system restore and a new harddrive and didn't want to have to bringit
in again.  So, I mention to a friend of mine my problem and that I was
thinking of just doing the system restore that was on my comp but he saidnot
to, that he could fix it.

Well, he didn't, he made it worst.  What he ended up doing from what hetold
me, he downloaded the Setup Disks from the Microsoft site in order to run
some recovery thing.  However, what it ended up doing was starting a new
install of Windows (he says) that ended up needing the Windows XP
installation disc.  Which of course I don't have since my computer camewith
it installed.  Now, when I try to start my comp, I get "NTLDR" not found.  
And I can't even run the Compaq system restore like I originally wanted to.

Okay, here's my questions: How screwed up am I now?  and  How do I goabout
fixing this?

Alright. Here's my problem. I was playing a game last night when my
computer froze up. Unable to do anything, I ended up having to turn my
computer off (not shut it down). When I went to restart it, Windows wouldn't
load. It would get to the loading screen and then my computer would restart.
I was upset because I just had my computer in the shop less than a monthago
for a system restore and a new harddrive and didn't want to have to bringit
in again. So, I mention to a friend of mine my problem and that I was
thinking of just doing the system restore that was on my comp but he saidnot
to, that he could fix it.

Well, he didn't, he made it worst. What he ended up doing from what he told
me, he downloaded the Setup Disks from the Microsoft site in order to run
some recovery thing. However, what it ended up doing was starting a new
install of Windows (he says) that ended up needing the Windows XP
installation disc. Which of course I don't have since my computer came with
it installed. Now, when I try to start my comp, I get "NTLDR" not found.
And I can't even run the Compaq system restore like I originally wanted to.

Okay, here's my questions: How screwed up am I now? and How do I go about
fixing this?

The ungraceful shutdown (power off) would is most likely responsible
for your symptom and it is generally not too hard to fix - if you
would have stopped with the first paragraph. .

I am sure your friend had good intentions, but it is never the first
thing to try with this relatively common issue.

It depends on how far the "new" installation got. Maybe not very far
at all. If you don't have a bootable XP installation CD for your
environment, you should start trying to find one. You can perhaps
borrow one.

On a problem that did not have the second paragraph with no bootable
XP media, I would do the following:.

Eliminate or repair possible file system corruption from a power
failure, ungraceful shutdown or aborted restart.

Have any of these events occurred? (Yes for you).

You should first boot your PC into the XP Recovery Console using a
bootable XP installation CD or a bootable CD with the XP Recovery
Console on it.

You can make a bootable Recovery Console CD by downloading an ISO file
and burning it to a CD.

The same XP Recovery Console commands can be run from the bootable
Recovery Console CD.

The bootable ISO image file you need to download is called:

xp_rec_con.iso

Download the ISO file from here:

http://www.mediafire.com/?ueyyzfymmig

Use this free and easy program to create your bootable CD:

http://www.imgburn.com/

It would be a good idea to test your bootable CD on the computer that
is
working.

You may need to adjust the computer BIOS settings to use the CD ROM
drive as the first boot device instead of the hard disk. These
adjustments are made before Windows tries to load. If you miss it,
you will have to reboot the system again.

When you boot on the CD, follow the prompts:

Press any key to boot from CD...

The Windows Setup... will proceed.

Press 'R' to enter the Recovery Console.

Select the installation you want to access (usually 1: C:\WINDOWS)

You may be asked to enter the Administrator password (usually empty).

You should be in the C:\WINDOWS folder.

This is the same as the C:\WINDOWS folder you see in explorer.

RC allows basic file commands - copy, rename, replace, delete,cd,
chkdsk, fixboot, fixmbr, etc.

From the command prompt window run the chkdsk command on the drive
where Windows is installed to try to repair any problems on the
afflicted drive.

Running chkdsk is fine to run even if it doesn't find any problems.

Assuming your boot drive is C, run the following command:

chkdsk C: /r

Let chkdsk finish and correct any problems it might find. It may take
a long time to complete or appear to be 'stuck'. Be patient. If the
HDD light is still flashing, it is doing something. Keep an eye on
the percentage amount to be sure it is still making progress.

Remove the CD and type 'exit' to leave the RC and restart the
computer.

You do not have to adjust the BIOS again to boot on the HDD since the
CD will not be present.
 
A

Agent Rock

Yeah, this might have helped if I had the Windows intallation disc. Like I
said, I do NOT have the installation disc as my Windows came pre-installed.
So, what now?
 
A

Agent Rock

Ok, just for clarification: are you telling me what I should have done, or
what I am supposed to do now? And if it is the former instead of the latter,
what am I supposed to do now?

Thanks
 
J

ju.c

D

db

unfortunately your options are limited
if you simply can't boot from the hard
disk.

you need to take that hard drive to a
functional computer and install it as
a slave,

then perform a tune up and copy of
the ntldr

or

borrow a winxp cd from anyone and
launch the recovery console.

sort of like the attempt before but
the recovery console will launch
directly from the xp cd instead.

then run a chkdsk and copy the
ntldr over.

here is some more information:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/318728

--------------

also if you can find a functional computer
make a "bartspe" cd as it will boot up
the computer so that you can work on
the file system.

---------------

incidentally, the likely cause for the
crash may due to the lack of file system
maintenance.

perhaps you ran short on disk space
or defragmentation was heavy and
files like the ntldr crashed.

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keep us apprised.
after you

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J

Jose

Ok, just for clarification: are you telling me what I should have done, or
what I am supposed to do now?  And if it is the former instead of the latter,
what am I supposed to do now?

Thanks

Are the directions for making your own Bootable Recovery CD posted
earlier not working for you?

I would make the CD, run chkdsk /r, reboot and see what the situation
is after that.
 
R

Richard

Hi "ju.c",

If I read the original problem right, the missing ntldr message appears when
trying to boot into the incomplete installation attempt, which seems to
indicate a problem with boot.ini pointing to the wrong default. Can your USB
loader fix the boot.ini file?

Grab this archive and create the bootable USB:

XP_Emergency_Boot_Loader_on_USB.zip 526 KB
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?ymnnz3ytzfe

When your desktop loads, copy the file "ntldr"
on the USB to the Windows drive (C:\).


Web Sites:

NTLDR is missing, press any key to restart
http://tinyempire.com/notes/ntldrismissing.htm

How to fix "NTLDR is Missing" Computer Errors
http://www.quickonlinetips.com/archives/2005/12/ntldr-is-missing-press-any-key-to-restart/


ju.c
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J

ju.c

No, the "Boot Loader" will read the existing 'boot.ini' file
and boot windows. It is useless without a 'boot.ini'.

Use the "Recovery Console" to create a new boot.ini
with this command: fixboot

If you have a corrupt MBR enter: fixmbr
- Do not use the "fixmbr" unless you need to!

If you don't have a Windows XP setup disc you could
get these Recovery Console CD's:

Rename to: XP_Recovery_Console_on_USB.torrent
http://torrage.com/torrent/8B114080C2B6FEED9DA552506ED3F2C2EDE13EB2.torrent

Rename to: XP_SP3_Recovery_Console_CD.torrent
http://torrage.com/torrent/771D8E96D6EA3CE9DF8DAFAB847B4B0558BA72E4.torrent

(Rename the torrent files after download)

The USB one is best, it boots fast and straight into the Recovery
Console. The CD one is a setup disc stripped of everything but
the files required for the RC, therefore you'll have to choose
Repair, then Repair using the Recovery Console.


ju.c
 

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