novice on routers and comcast

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Greg

novice on routers and comcast

What type of router do I need for comcast?

How do I hook two computers up?

How do I secure my cable modem from hackers?

How do I secure my cable modem from people who intentionally or
unintentionally grab my service?

I need this is simple terms.

I think the computer we are getting is a Vista and the other computer
will have xp. Vista will be the one that get priority.

Thank you for your help.

Greg
 
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Lem

Greg said:
novice on routers and comcast

What type of router do I need for comcast?

How do I hook two computers up?

How do I secure my cable modem from hackers?

How do I secure my cable modem from people who intentionally or
unintentionally grab my service?

I need this is simple terms.

I think the computer we are getting is a Vista and the other computer
will have xp. Vista will be the one that get priority.

Thank you for your help.

Greg

A modem is a device that converts the signals on the cable,
DSL/telephone line, or other incoming connection to a form that
computers "understand. Usually, your ISP (Comcast) will supply the modem.

A router is a device that connects two different networks, e.g, the
Internet and a Local Area Network (LAN).

Sometimes, routers and modems are combined into one box. This is usually
called a "gateway."

Typically, home routers also incorporate a switch. This allows more than
one computer to connect to the router. Usually, there are 4 ports for
your LAN. You can also get a router that incorporate a wireless access
point. This permits your LAN computers to connect to the router (and
thus to the Internet and each other) wirelessly. You might as well buy a
wireless router; they're about the same price as a non-wireless model
(which are becoming harder to find). If you don't need the wireless
capability now, you can easily disable the wireless function of the
router. If you're really paranoid, many wireless routers will also let
you take off the antennas.

Assuming that the cable modem you get from Comcast is a modem only, you
would buy a router. The cable modem connects to the router's Internet or
WAN port with an Ethernet cable.

You connect each of your computers to the router, either to one of the
router's LAN ports with an Ethernet cable or wirelessly.

You don't secure your cable modem. Almost all home routers today
incorporate a firewall. That, as well as the Network Address Translation
(NAT) of these routers does a pretty good job of securing your LAN
from the Internet. You should change the password used to access the
router's configuration utility. If you have a wireless router, you need
to take some additional steps (implement WPA2 encryption, change the
network name (SSID) to something unique but not your last name or address).

Linksys (one of the better known brands of home routers) has some
helpful learning aids here:
http://www.linksysbycisco.com/US/en/learningcenter

The following is from MS-MVP Malke:

<QUOTE>
A. Router configuration

Setting up a router is quite simple. Normally you run the CD that came
with the router and follow the instructions. If you're running Vista
perhaps the CD that came with the router won't work; I don't know this.
But you can set up the router without a CD. Note that if you have cable
Internet, for the connection you just set the router to do DHCP (or
there may even be a choice of cable for you to select). If you have DSL
Internet, you usually select PPoe and enter the username and password
which you chose when originally setting up the DSL connection. So:

1. Turn off the power to your cable modem.
2. Attach a cat5e ethernet cable (usually provided with the router)
going from the router's Internet/WAN port to the cable modem's ethernet
port.
3. Attach a cat5e ethernet cable going from your computer's network
adapter to one of the ports on the router. If you don't have an ethernet
cable (because you were using USB), you will need to go to the store and
buy one.
4. Turn on the cable modem. After all the lights are on, turn on the router.

To configure the router:

Have a computer connected to the router with an ethernet cable. Examples
given are for a Linksys router. Refer to your router manual or the
router mftr.'s website for default settings if you don't have a Linksys.
Open a browser such as Internet Explorer or Firefox and in the
addressbar type:

http://192.168.1.1 [enter] (this is the router's default IP address,
which varies from router to router so check your manual)

This will bring you to router's login screen. The default username is
left blank and the Linksys default password is "admin" without the
quotes. Enter that information. You are now in the router's
configuration utility. Your configuration utility may differ slightly
from mine.

Click on the Administration link at the top of the page. Enter your new
password. WRITE IT DOWN SOMEWHERE YOU WILL NOT LOSE IT. Re-enter the
password to confirm it and click the Save Settings button at the bottom
of the page. The router will restart and present you with the login box
again. Leave the username blank and put in your new password to get back
into the configuration utility.

Now click on the Wireless link at the top of the page. Change the
Wireless Network Name (SSID) from the default to something you will
recognize. I suggest that my clients not use their family name as the
SSID. For example, you might wish to name your wireless network
"CastleAnthrax" or the like. ;-)

Click the Save Settings and when you get the prompt that your changes
were successful, click on the Wireless Security link which is right next
to the Basic Wireless Settings link (where you changed your SSID). If
you have a newish computer, you will be able to set the Security Mode to
WPA2-Personal. Do that and enter a passphrase. The passphrase is what
you will enter on any computers that are allowed to connect to the
wireless network. WRITE IT DOWN SOMEWHERE YOU WILL NOT LOSE IT.

At this point, your router is configured and if the computer you were
using to configure the router is normally going to connect wirelessly,
disconnect the ethernet cable and the computer's wireless feature should
see your new network. Enter the passphrase you created to join the
network and start
surfing.

*****

B. File/printer sharing

Excellent, thorough, yet easy to understand article about File/Printer
Sharing in Vista. Includes details about sharing printers as well as
files and folders:

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb727037.aspx

For XP, start by running the Network Setup Wizard on all machines (see
caveat in Item A below).

Problems sharing files between computers on a network are generally
caused by 1) a misconfigured firewall or overlooked firewall (including
a stateful firewall in a VPN); or 2) inadvertently running two firewalls
such as the built-in Windows Firewall and a third-party firewall; and/or
3) not having identical user accounts and passwords on all Workgroup
machines; 4) trying to create shares where the operating system does not
permit it.

A. Configure firewalls on all machines to allow the Local Area Network
(LAN) traffic as trusted. With Windows Firewall, this means allowing
File/Printer Sharing on the Exceptions tab. Normally running the Network
Setup Wizard on XP will take care of this for those machines.The only
"gotcha" is that this will turn on the XPSP2 Windows Firewall. If you
aren't running a third-party firewall or have an antivirus with
"Internet Worm Protection" (like Norton 2006/07) which acts as a
firewall, then you're fine. With third-party firewalls, I usually
configure the LAN allowance with an IP range. Ex. would be
192.168.1.0-192.168.1.254. Obviously you would substitute your correct
subnet. Do not run more than one firewall. DO NOT TURN OFF FIREWALLS;
CONFIGURE THEM CORRECTLY.

B. For ease of organization, put all computers in the same Workgroup.
This is done from the System applet in Control Panel, Computer Name tab.

C. Create matching user accounts and passwords on all machines. You do
not need to be logged into the same account on all machines and the
passwords assigned to each user account can be different; the
accounts/passwords just need to exist and match on all machines. DO NOT
NEGLECT TO CREATE PASSWORDS, EVEN IF ONLY SIMPLE ONES. If you wish a
machine to boot directly to the Desktop (into one particular user's
account) for convenience, you can do this. The instructions at this link
work for both XP and Vista:

Configure Windows to Automatically Login (MVP Ramesh) -
http://windowsxp.mvps.org/Autologon.htm

D. If one or more of the computers is XP Pro or Media Center, turn off
Simple File Sharing (Folder Options>View tab).

E. Create shares as desired. XP Home does not permit sharing of users'
home directories or Program Files, but you can share folders inside
those directories. A better choice is to simply use the Shared Documents
folder.
See the first link above for details about Vista sharing.

F. After you have file sharing working (and have tested this by
exchanging a file between all machines), if you want to share a printer
connected locally to one of your computers, share it out from that
machine. Then go to the printer mftr.'s website and download the latest
drivers for the correct operating system(s). Install them on the target
machine(s). The printer should be seen during the installation routine.
If it is not, install the drivers and then use the Add Printer Wizard.
In some instances, certain printers need to be installed as Local
printers but that is outside of this response.
<\QUOTE>
 
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1PW

Greg said:
novice on routers and comcast

What type of router do I need for comcast?

You may continue to use your Comcast supplied cable modem and purchase
your own router. Two types exist in this case; non-wireless type:

<http://www.linksysbycisco.com/US/en/products/BEFSR41>

or a wireless,

<http://www.linksysbycisco.com/US/en/products/WRT120N>

or, you may give up your cable modem and go with a wireless

How do I hook two computers up?

With a switch or router.
How do I secure my cable modem from hackers?

You can't. But you can give yourself more safety by using a NAT
router with your modem
How do I secure my cable modem from people who intentionally or
unintentionally grab my service?

You can't. But someone would need to have access to the Ethernet side
of your cable modem to steal services.
I need this is simple terms.

I tried...
I think the computer we are getting is a Vista and the other computer
will have xp. Vista will be the one that get priority.

Both will work fine with NAT routers.
Thank you for your help.

Greg

Not many folks know that Comcast will also lease you a combination
cable modem/router.

Use Google to define some of the terms that may seem difficult to
understand.

HTH
 
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Brian A.

Greg said:
novice on routers and comcast

What type of router do I need for comcast?

It doesn't matter as for your concerns using Comcast, what matters is how
your LAN (local area network) will be structured. Depending on the location
of each PC to be connected, where the router is located and whether you plan
to run cable or not will help determine if the router should be wired or
wireless.
How do I hook two computers up?

Connect each PC to the router using CAT6 cables with RJ-45 connectors.
How do I secure my cable modem from hackers?

You don't if it's a modem supplied by Comcast, they have full controll
over it and how it's configured. You configure the router for your specific
security needs, of course the settings do depend on the security and other
options included in the router.
How do I secure my cable modem from people who intentionally or
unintentionally grab my service?

Same as above, however, if your account was to be compromised you would
need to contact Comcast.
I need this is simple terms.

I think the computer we are getting is a Vista and the other computer
will have xp. Vista will be the one that get priority.

Thank you for your help.

Greg

--

Brian A. Sesko
Conflicts start where information lacks.
http://basconotw.mvps.org/

Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://members.shaw.ca/dts-l/goodpost.htm
How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375
 
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Greg

I am really confused,

Modem is provided by comcast and I think it uses the USB slots.

Comcast mentioned a router, you can buy for $30 at walmart,

I read people get viruses/adware/spyware/etc if their network, router
or high speed modem is not set up correctly.

I don't know if I should put an old Ethernet pci card or a usb 2.0
pci card.



Greg
 
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Brian A.

Greg said:
I am really confused,

Modem is provided by comcast and I think it uses the USB slots.

I'm not 100% sure, but I think all of the modems supplied by Comcast
connect to a PC using usb or a router using ethernet cable.
Click "Troubleshooting Specific Cable Modems" here:
http://customer.comcast.com/Pages/F...t&folder=c364dcc5-7833-4336-a71c-894d944e2ae0

Select/click your specific cable modem in the list.
Click the "Show Me A Router Connection" button to view a connection
diagram/graphic.

If your modem isn't listed, please provide us with the exact manufacturer,
make and model of your modem.
Comcast mentioned a router, you can buy for $30 at walmart,

Without knowing which router I can't recommend if it's one to purchase or
not.
I read people get viruses/adware/spyware/etc if their network, router
or high speed modem is not set up correctly.

Security starts with PC user "safe hex": Have a good Firewall and
Antivirus app installed and kept up to date definitions, not opening
suspicious and/or unknown sender emails, avoiding suspect and/or unsafe
sites, etc.
I don't know if I should put an old Ethernet pci card or a usb 2.0
pci card.

There may be no need for a NIC if it's integrated on the motherboard and
no need for a USB card if there are open USB ports.


--

Brian A. Sesko
Conflicts start where information lacks.
http://basconotw.mvps.org/

Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://members.shaw.ca/dts-l/goodpost.htm
How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375
 
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Jose

I am really confused,

Modem is provided by comcast and I think it uses the USB slots.

Comcast mentioned a router,  you can buy for $30 at walmart,

I read people get viruses/adware/spyware/etc  if their network, router
or high speed modem is not set up correctly.

I don't know if I should put an old  Ethernet pci card or a usb 2.0
pci card.

Greg

I have Comcast and their broadband (cable) hookup.

They ran a new piece of cable in my house, hooked it up to a Comcast
branded Linksys router/switch, a single box with two antennas and
separate power supply that sits out of site behind the couch. I never
see it. They give you an Ethernet cable to hook up to the box using
your laptop to configure the wireless part on the router the first
time and maybe later for troubleshooting.

I mostly use an old desktop that does not have built in wireless, so
they supplied a Linksys wireless adapter. It is not a card, but just
plugs into any USB port with its little antenna and gets its power
from the USB port. The other laptops have wireless built in. I added
a wireless printer (still have my old one too) that hops onto the in
house network so anybody else can print whenever they want.

The router is slightly configurable, you should choose the most secure
encryption method available to try to be sure that only your house can
get access to it and configure the computers to match it. You also
set it to not broadcast the name you give your router when you install
it (the SSID) over the airwaves so your neighbors machines don't
detect it and try to hack into it to use your Comcast service for
free.

This is why you don't use some easy to guess password like your street
address, phone number, etc. - things your neighbors might try to use
to piggyback themselves onto your cable for free - not get into your
computer necessarily, just use your wireless so they don't pay. This
never happens of course. Use some low risk goofy name for your SSID
and a goofier password that is unlikely to be guessed and write it
down somewhere for the day you need it and your computer or wireless
doesn't work. Once you get running, you won't need that information
again unless something changes or gets broken.

Comcast will come out and set you all up and you make sure they don't
leave until every computer works the way you want and you understand
everything - like changing the wireless password when you want. If
you have trouble, they have pretty good phone support if you can talk
to the right person. This may not happen on the first call, so call
back until you find somebody that knows what they are talking about.

The Comcast gear will not keep you from getting infected, YOU have to
keep you from getting infected. You can replace their stuff later
with more sophisticated stuff that may have some way to block sites,
etc. but you would have to know all about that and you could still get
infected. Probably overkill for a home environment. I would say if
you get infected - ever, you are the reason you got infected.

I started leasing my stuff from them when I knew nothing about
wireless for some $ a month, but then I found I could go to Wal-Mart
and buy the wireless stuff to replace their router and my USB wireless
adapter for about less than one years worth of lease, plus I could
control it more. But, all their stuff works fine for what I need to
do.

I had them out for something one day and the Comcast guy told me "the
stuff that comes out of their warehouse is crap" in terms of
reliability, but it is very reliable for me so far. When it ever gets
unreliable, i will replace it. So far I have had zero problems with
it, I understand it all now and can fix things myself, and we ain't
always always too smart with scientifical stuff in this part of the
country.
 
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Greg

I have Comcast and their broadband (cable) hookup.

They ran a new piece of cable in my house, hooked it up to a Comcast
branded Linksys router/switch, a single box with two antennas and
separate power supply that sits out of site behind the couch. I never
see it. They give you an Ethernet cable to hook up to the box using
your laptop to configure the wireless part on the router the first
time and maybe later for troubleshooting.

I mostly use an old desktop that does not have built in wireless, so
they supplied a Linksys wireless adapter. It is not a card, but just
plugs into any USB port with its little antenna and gets its power
from the USB port. The other laptops have wireless built in. I added
a wireless printer (still have my old one too) that hops onto the in
house network so anybody else can print whenever they want.

The router is slightly configurable, you should choose the most secure
encryption method available to try to be sure that only your house can
get access to it and configure the computers to match it. You also
set it to not broadcast the name you give your router when you install
it (the SSID) over the airwaves so your neighbors machines don't
detect it and try to hack into it to use your Comcast service for
free.

This is why you don't use some easy to guess password like your street
address, phone number, etc. - things your neighbors might try to use
to piggyback themselves onto your cable for free - not get into your
computer necessarily, just use your wireless so they don't pay. This
never happens of course. Use some low risk goofy name for your SSID
and a goofier password that is unlikely to be guessed and write it
down somewhere for the day you need it and your computer or wireless
doesn't work. Once you get running, you won't need that information
again unless something changes or gets broken.

Comcast will come out and set you all up and you make sure they don't
leave until every computer works the way you want and you understand
everything - like changing the wireless password when you want. If
you have trouble, they have pretty good phone support if you can talk
to the right person. This may not happen on the first call, so call
back until you find somebody that knows what they are talking about.

The Comcast gear will not keep you from getting infected, YOU have to
keep you from getting infected. You can replace their stuff later
with more sophisticated stuff that may have some way to block sites,
etc. but you would have to know all about that and you could still get
infected. Probably overkill for a home environment. I would say if
you get infected - ever, you are the reason you got infected.

I started leasing my stuff from them when I knew nothing about
wireless for some $ a month, but then I found I could go to Wal-Mart
and buy the wireless stuff to replace their router and my USB wireless
adapter for about less than one years worth of lease, plus I could
control it more. But, all their stuff works fine for what I need to
do.

I had them out for something one day and the Comcast guy told me "the
stuff that comes out of their warehouse is crap" in terms of
reliability, but it is very reliable for me so far. When it ever gets
unreliable, i will replace it. So far I have had zero problems with
it, I understand it all now and can fix things myself, and we ain't
always always too smart with scientifical stuff in this part of the
country.


Comcast does not come out anymore unless user request it and charges
an install fee. They prefer you to do self install. Which I am
going to do.

Yes, I know it is up to me to secure my connection, that is why I am
asking how.

To the other post,
USB 1 wouldn't that be two slow?
I have a USB 2 Pci card, I could install.
I have a old NIC card. I could install.

Greg
 
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Patrick Palczewski

I, too, have good experiences with Comcast and their router/modems. I have a
Netgear wireless router set up so I can work on customers' PCs in my office
and use a USB Wireless Adapter to get on the internet and download what's
needed. All of it is pretty easy to set up.

Most of my service calls are for people that have problems with their
internet setup from another ISP, which shall remain nameless. ;)
 
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Jose

Comcast does not come out anymore unless user request it and charges
an install fee.   They prefer you to do self install.   Which I am
going to do.  

Yes,  I know it is up to me to secure my connection,  that is why I am
asking how.

To the other post,
USB 1 wouldn't that be two slow?
I have a USB 2 Pci card,  I could install.
I have a old NIC card.  I could install.

Greg

Mine was a while ago.

It should not be too hard though. If your router is like mine, they
put their own web interface on top of the Linksys one, so you really
just fill in some blanks.

There is no way to configure it to protect you from malicious
software. That is not it's job.

You can protect against intrusion. To keep outside people out,
configure the router to use the best encryption method that matches
the capabilities of your PCs, use a strong password (or passphrase as
they call it), do not broadcast your SSID. Turn your house into a
firewall by coating the outside with anti wi-fi paint.

When you get it installed, use the Comcast preferred method to test
your speed. If you complain about speed, this is what they will do to
tell you it is not their problem (unless it fails these benchmarks and
really is their problem).

They like www.speedtest.net for testing. Go there, click the triangle
on the map where you are, wait.

Download should be 11-12
Upload should be at least 1

You can determine what your USB ports support - I would image they are
2.0 unless they are really old. A NIC card is another point of
possible failure, so use on board if you have it.

If you want us to look at your basic HW configuration do this:

Click Start, Run and in the box enter:

msinfo32

Click OK, and when the System Summary info appears, click Edit, Select
All, Copy and then paste

There will be some personal information (like System Name and User
Name), and whatever appears to
be private information to you, just delete from the pasted
information.


To check your existing USB ports, do this:

Launch Device Manager by clicking Start, Run and in the box enter:

C:\windows\system32\devmgmt.msc

Click OK.

Expand the Universal Serial Bus controller section and look for
something that says:

USB Enhanced Host Controller.

Enhanced is the key word which means high speed. That is the best you
can do with USB. This is where you get those annoying "this device
could perform faster" messages sometimes... wrong driver. Easy to
fix.

If the word Enhanced is not there, it is just a plain USB 2.0, but not
high speed.

A simple driver upgrade will usually fix that right up.
 

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