NOD32 slows down system??

[Paul R]

I'm trying out a test version of the latest NOD32 for Win98 and find
that opening programs has slowed down to a crawl (as has the movement of
this cursor while I type this message -- it now has a slight delay and
jerky movement). When I meam slowed down programs I'm talking about
between 20 & 45 secs. to open such apps as Mozilla browser, Quicken, MS
Word, WinFax (which won't even finish background printing documents for
faxing). Disabling NOD32 solves the problem and all programs/cursor work
as they should. Is there a middle ground here?

 

[D]

I'm trying out a test version of the latest NOD32 for Win98 and find
that opening programs has slowed down to a crawl (as has the movement of
this cursor while I type this message -- it now has a slight delay and
jerky movement). When I meam slowed down programs I'm talking about
between 20 & 45 secs. to open such apps as Mozilla browser, Quicken, MS
Word, WinFax (which won't even finish background printing documents for
faxing). Disabling NOD32 solves the problem and all programs/cursor work
as they should. Is there a middle ground here?

Do you know what else runs in the background? if something's constantly
calling other processes NOD32 will keep checking the file(s), there is an
option to ignore certain files if you so wish.

Also, turn off things you don't constantly need and use a shortcut or hotkey
to start them, they could be hogging your resources too.

 

[Tx2]

[...]

I'm trying out a test version of the latest NOD32 for Win98 and find
that opening programs has slowed down to a crawl ...

NOD32 isn't the problem. NOD32 is identifying an underlying problem is
what i would suggest is occurring.

I've installed NOD32 on a 'significant' number of systems from 98 to XP,
and thus far have noticed no ill effects on any of them., and certainly
never a slow down as that which you describe.

 

[Sir_George]

Paul,

Try using MSconfig and see what programs are running in the background,
TSR's.

If you are unfamiliar with MSconfig, perform the following;

Start>Run>msconfig (typed in the caption box)>Startup (tab at the top)

Review the list and see if any of the entries are unnecessary and disable
them by deselecting, uncheck the box.

Having used NOD32 for quite some time, I find it to be one of the less
intrusive AV programs, very light on resources. Therefore, I doubt it is the
source of your problem.

 

[Alec]

I'm trying out a test version of the latest NOD32 for Win98 and find
that opening programs has slowed down to a crawl (as has the movement of
this cursor while I type this message -- it now has a slight delay and
jerky movement). When I meam slowed down programs I'm talking about
between 20 & 45 secs. to open such apps as Mozilla browser, Quicken, MS
Word, WinFax (which won't even finish background printing documents for
faxing). Disabling NOD32 solves the problem and all programs/cursor work
as they should. Is there a middle ground here?

You almost certainly have some incompatibility occurring here. Are you sure
that you have disabled or uninstalled all other resident AV programs?
Resident AV programs all try to hook into the filesystem/loader so that they
can scan every file that your PC attempts to touch/load. Having multiple
active at one time can cause all sorts of problems ranging from extreme
delays to system instability. Download the Process Explorer utility from
Sysinternals (http://www.sysinternals.com/ntw2k/freeware/procexp.shtml) and
make sure to select the download for Win9x/ME. This program will show all
currently running processes on your system. Make sure that you don't have
any other active AV processes on your system. You should also download
Autoruns (http://www.sysinternals.com/ntw2k/freeware/autoruns.shtml). I
belive it shows more startup locations than msconfig and it has an option to
exclude the display of Microsoft supplied autostart items, that way you can
quickly see what 3rd party apps are loading at system startup. Finally, if
you are a bit technically inclined and want to try to get to the bottom of
your delay issues, you could try downloading Filemon
(http://www.sysinternals.com/ntw2k/source/filemon.shtml). This utility will
show you what the filesystem is doing and what files it is touching in real
time. It may be enlightening to see what filesystem activity is occurring
during these delays you are witnessing.

NOD32 is sort of known for its speed and relatively modest resource useage.
I can attest to no personal issues encountered on the serveral Win98,
Win2000, and WinXP machines I have installed it upon. Do you have limited
system memory? Are you 100% certain that you downloaded the appropriate
NOD32 executable for Win9x systems?

 

[Paul R]

You almost certainly have some incompatibility occurring here. Are you sure
that you have disabled or uninstalled all other resident AV programs?
Resident AV programs all try to hook into the filesystem/loader so that they
can scan every file that your PC attempts to touch/load. Having multiple
active at one time can cause all sorts of problems ranging from extreme
delays to system instability. Download the Process Explorer utility from
Sysinternals (http://www.sysinternals.com/ntw2k/freeware/procexp.shtml) and
make sure to select the download for Win9x/ME. This program will show all
currently running processes on your system. Make sure that you don't have
any other active AV processes on your system. You should also download
Autoruns (http://www.sysinternals.com/ntw2k/freeware/autoruns.shtml). I
belive it shows more startup locations than msconfig and it has an option to
exclude the display of Microsoft supplied autostart items, that way you can
quickly see what 3rd party apps are loading at system startup. Finally, if
you are a bit technically inclined and want to try to get to the bottom of
your delay issues, you could try downloading Filemon
(http://www.sysinternals.com/ntw2k/source/filemon.shtml). This utility will
show you what the filesystem is doing and what files it is touching in real
time. It may be enlightening to see what filesystem activity is occurring
during these delays you are witnessing.

NOD32 is sort of known for its speed and relatively modest resource useage.
I can attest to no personal issues encountered on the serveral Win98,
Win2000, and WinXP machines I have installed it upon. Do you have limited
system memory? Are you 100% certain that you downloaded the appropriate
NOD32 executable for Win9x systems?

Well, I found my available resources down to only about 35% -- product
of adding Zone Alarm Pro (10% resources used) since I got dsl installed.
After all the downlaods, installs, deletes, etc. I did after installing
the dsl, NOD32 came in using only 4% of the resources. Now I find that I
only have about 65% free resources to start with on booting, vs. the 76%
or 78% I had before installing Zone Alarm.

I just checked and am donw to 45% free (!!). All this will change Fri,
however, when I get my new PC with XP installed. I guess I should not
anticipate a resource problem then, right?

 

[Machine Messiah]

I'm trying out a test version of the latest NOD32 for Win98 and find
that opening programs has slowed down to a crawl (as has the movement of
this cursor while I type this message -- it now has a slight delay and
jerky movement). When I meam slowed down programs I'm talking about
between 20 & 45 secs. to open such apps as Mozilla browser, Quicken, MS
Word, WinFax (which won't even finish background printing documents for
faxing). Disabling NOD32 solves the problem and all programs/cursor work
as they should. Is there a middle ground here?

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I've been running NOD32 on Win 98 for more than 2 years and have never
had such problems.
Here's what I have running.
DHELP.EXE 4294617441 C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\DDHELP.EXE
EXPLORER.EXE 4294891177 C:\WINDOWS\EXPLORER.EXE
GRAVITY.EXE 4294393153 C:\PROGRAM FILES\GRAVITY\GRAVITY.EXE
KERNEL32.DLL 4287585981 C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\KERNEL32.DLL
MMTASK 4294897793 C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\mmtask.tsk
MOZILLA.EXE 4294548493 C:\PROGRAM FILES\MOZILLA.ORG\MOZILLA
\MOZILLA.EXE
MPREXE.EXE 4294942289 C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\MPREXE.EXE
MSGSRV32 4294945217 C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\MSGSRV32.EXE
NOD32KRN.EXE 4294847833 C:\PROGRAM FILES\ESET\NOD32KRN.EXE
NOD32KUI.EXE 4294630661 C:\PROGRAM FILES\ESET\NOD32KUI.EXE
PERSFW.EXE 4294842525 C:\PROGRAM FILES\KERIO\PERSONAL FIREWALL
\PERSFW.EXE
PRCVIEW.EXE 4294606613 C:\PRCVIEW\PRCVIEW.EXE
RSM.EXE 4294712425 C:\PROGRAM FILES\RSM\RSM.EXE
SYSTRAY.EXE 4294814637 C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\SYSTRAY.EXE
TCLOCK.EXE 4294729493 C:\TCLOCK\TCLOCK.EXE
WMIEXE.EXE 4294834625 C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\WMIEXE.EXE

 

[David W. Hodgins]

I just checked and am donw to 45% free (!!). All this will change Fri,
however, when I get my new PC with XP installed. I guess I should not
anticipate a resource problem then, right?

Be sure to read a copy of
http://www.cablemodemhelp.com/xpsurvivalguide.pdf
*BEFORE* you connect a new XP installation to the net.

Otherwise you'll have a lot more "resource problems" to worry about.

Regards, Dave Hodgins

 

[Roy Coorne]

Paul R wrote:

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Well, I found my available resources down to only about 35% -- product
of adding Zone Alarm Pro (10% resources used) since I got dsl installed.
After all the downlaods, installs, deletes, etc. I did after installing
the dsl, NOD32 came in using only 4% of the resources. Now I find that I
only have about 65% free resources to start with on booting, vs. the 76%
or 78% I had before installing Zone Alarm.

I just checked and am donw to 45% free (!!). All this will change Fri,
however, when I get my new PC with XP installed. I guess I should not
anticipate a resource problem then, right?

With your new XP, check that the XP firewall is active and you may
forego ZoneAlarm, thus saving resources.

Roy

 

[Shane]

Paul R wrote:

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With your new XP, check that the XP firewall is active and you may
forego ZoneAlarm, thus saving resources.

There's no real resource problem with XP. But the XP firewall - even as
impending in SP2, though much improved - does not block outward traffic,
which is probably essential given the amount of spyware and trojans out
there now.


Shane