no 'undo' for deleted files on USB!

[Guest]

why can files not be retrieved via edit undo or the recycle bin when they are
deleted from USB, is there a setting to change this?

 

[Myweb]

Hello Samuel,

Because they wan't be moved to the recycle bin. The will be deleted directly.
In the recycle bin you only find files/folders if you delete them from the
machine desktop itself. Everything else, e.g. network mapping will be deleted
directly. If you have recovery software you maybe can restore it.

Best regards

Myweb
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[just bob]

Hello Samuel,

Because they wan't be moved to the recycle bin. The will be deleted
directly. In the recycle bin you only find files/folders if you delete
them from the machine desktop itself. Everything else, e.g. network
mapping will be deleted directly. If you have recovery software you maybe
can restore it.

Strange. I could see if the path was UNC, but this is a hard drive letter,
to the OS it should look like a directly attached disk drive (it is,
actually). That just wrong.

 

[Myweb]

Hello just,

It was the same with 98, nt4, 2000 and xp.

Best regards

Myweb
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[just bob]

Works OK on XP for me.

1. I plugged up a Maxtor external drive to my XP laptop

2. On the external dive I created a text file full of gibberish called
textexteranlbackup.txt

3. I deleted the file from the external hard drive.

4. Opened Recycle Bin from my Desktop

5. Found file, click restore.

6. Found file was restored to external drive.

Now I'll go test in on Vista.


I delete the file.

 

[just bob]

why can files not be retrieved via edit undo or the recycle bin when they
are
deleted from USB, is there a setting to change this?

It works OK for me. Did you delete the file using the windows shell or
command prompt?

When I connected a 250GB Maxtor to my VistaU machine and right-click to
delete file it prompts me to ask if I'm sure I want to move the file to the
Recycle bin (or words to that affect).

After the delete, the file is in my recycle bin.

After an attempted restore from the recycle bin, UAC asks me if I'm sure I
want to move the file from the recycle bin.

I say yes and the file is restored.

So... it works OK on my machine.

 

[Ronnie Vernon MVP]

Samuel just mentioned USB, he did not say whether it was a USB HD or a USB
flash drive? If it's a flash drive, the files will not go to the RB.

 

[just bob]

Ohhhh. OK, I just tested it on XP and it recycles but not on Vista.

Another addition to the list of file management issues with Vista.

This groups is going to be very popular!

 

[Ronnie Vernon MVP]

If you mean deleting a file from a flash drive recycles on XP, this is
incorrect. XP does not store deletions from a flash drive in the recycle
bin, they are permanently deleted.

 

[just bob]

If you mean deleting a file from a flash drive recycles on XP, this is
incorrect. XP does not store deletions from a flash drive in the recycle
bin, they are permanently deleted.

It works for me. You want to connect to my XP machine and see? I tested
this with a Memorex "Traveldrive" 1GB USB flash (aka thumb) drive on my
WidnowsXP SP2 Dell Latitude D800 and I can restore files from the Recycle
bin

As I stated in my previous post, when I delete a file from the USB drive on
XP it asks me if I want to send it to the recycle bin. I can, and I can then
restore it from the Recycle bin, too.

On my Dell D820 runnign VistaU, it does not say it goes to Recycle, it warns
me the file will be permanentyly deleted, and when I do it is gone and it is
not coming back (without some 3rd party tool).

This is new for Vista, as far as I can tell.

-Bob

 

[Ronnie Vernon MVP]

I know that there are a lot of different flavors of flash drives with
different capabilities, so I'll just back off and say that, although I have
never seen this, anythings possible.

 

[DevilsPGD]

In message <[email protected]> "Ronnie

I know that there are a lot of different flavors of flash drives with
different capabilities, so I'll just back off and say that, although I have
never seen this, anythings possible.

IIRC, if you use NTFS it does, if you use FAT it does not, or something
along those lines.

Size (whether it's a "removable drive" or a "USB hard drive" may make a
difference too)

 

[Ronnie Vernon MVP]

Thanks for that info, this is something I wasn't aware of.

 

[Guest]

Thanks for the replies - I was referring to a flash USB. I have a lovely
i-duck USB but unfortunately my comp (running vista) does not save the file
in the recycle bin (nor on XP) it just asks if I want to delete it.

There must be a setting somewhere. BTW mine's FAT

Samuel, UK

 

[just bob]

Thanks for the replies - I was referring to a flash USB. I have a lovely
i-duck USB but unfortunately my comp (running vista) does not save the
file
in the recycle bin (nor on XP) it just asks if I want to delete it.

There must be a setting somewhere. BTW mine's FAT

Samuel, UK

Hi, Mine is FAT as well.

I'm so glad I viewed replies to my messages or I would have missed this, and
maybe for a long time never went back and empty the recycle bin on this
drive, which had more than I thought. Phew.

 

[cquirke (MVP Windows shell/user)]

Hi, Mine is FAT as well.

Recycle Bin has never supported removable disks.

Think about it - how would it know which disk to restore to?

If dropped on the disk itself (rather than copied to a HD location)
then which "Recycled" should a particular PC use, if the same disk is
used across multiple PCs?

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Saws are too hard to use.
Be easier to use!

 

[just bob]

Recycle Bin has never supported removable disks.

Think about it - how would it know which disk to restore to?

If dropped on the disk itself (rather than copied to a HD location)
then which "Recycled" should a particular PC use, if the same disk is
used across multiple PCs?

The Recycle bin is on the flash drive, if that helps. I didn't do anything
special. I previously ordered a bunch of cheap 1GB Memorex USB
"traveldrives" from www.cdw.com and when I saw this thread I pulled one out
of the box and did a test. I just plugged it in and it has a Recycle Bin in
the root of the flash drive. Then you said this was never supported on XP so
I tested the same drive on my XP machine, with the exact same results.

 

[DevilsPGD]

In message <[email protected]> "cquirke (MVP

Recycle Bin has never supported removable disks.

True -- They undefined area is what defines a "removable disk" vs a
fixed disk. It appears to be some combination of size, as well as drive
parameters.

Think about it - how would it know which disk to restore to?

The same one that contained the original files.

When you delete a file on a fixed disk, the file goes to the local
Recycle Bin (the one on that drive) -- There is no need for a removable
drive to work differently.

If dropped on the disk itself (rather than copied to a HD location)
then which "Recycled" should a particular PC use, if the same disk is
used across multiple PCs?

Whichever one the drive is physically located in at the time.

 

[Guest]

All of this answers my query, ultimately.

I went to the Mac store in London recently, I really liked it and just
bought an iPod for the first time. I hate all the hurdles winth windows and
soon I want to move to Mac.

 

[just bob]

All of this answers my query, ultimately.

I went to the Mac store in London recently, I really liked it and just
bought an iPod for the first time. I hate all the hurdles winth windows
and
soon I want to move to Mac.

The only real hurdles are meeting the expectations of a previous operating
system.

If you move to something new like a Mac, it's all new, and you do things
they way the maker intended.

For those of use who have to support windows systems, it's frustrating at
times to not know how to do old tasks on the new OS (and to find some things
which are broken along the way) but it has to be done. It's my job!