No Option to Disable Anti-Spyware and run manually

[TedF]

I have uninstalled MS Anti-Spyware because there is no
option to disable it and run it manually when needed.
Also it interferes with my local network, so adios
with to your anti-spyware.
Maybe MS should combine it with their optional firewall.
Very bad impression Mr Gates forcing your ways around here,
especially it is a beta.
It is enough that you made XP local networking miserable
and full of bugs.
You think if you give the user hard time with your worthless
security then the OS is protected, remember we have local networking
that have to run flawlessly every minute of the day, and it has been
nothing but pain without your firewalls, security fixes and your spyware.
Adding your security software makes it more miserable.
Win 98 networking runs beautiful, why ruin it with your worthless
painful advanced features and configurations in XP.

 

[SteveC]

Cannot you just go to RealTime Protection and deactivate the ones you don't
wish to use? I haven't tried it, but that is how it appears to work. Also,
could you not reinstall it and choose NO instead of YES to the options it
presents?

 

[David]

Guess there is no pleasing some people...

There is clearly the option to disable the schedule and
the realtime protection on my copy.

As pointed out to another "tester", perhaps beta software
is not for you.

 

[TedF]

I have tried everything, it says real-time protection is disabled,
but when my other computer tries to access, it pops a block message.
There is no option to turn off the autoscan, it has option to run
daily, monthly and weekly.
What is worse, it has an option to remove icon in Systray, but
still keeps running hidden in the background.

 

[TedF]

It also accuses RealVNC as a spyware.
Soon MS will accuse every competitor, or uncertified software
as a spyware.

 

[TedF]

This is not a real beta, it was just renamed with the adding of MS bugs.

There is clearly the option to disable the schedule and
the realtime protection on my copy.

Yes there is, but it keeps protecting.

 

[A McGuire]

RealVNC can be quite a problem if people aren't aware it's on their
computer. It allows unrestricted snooping, and some of the VNCs (Ultra for
sure) allow unrestricted file transfers. I was warned that I had two VNCs
on my laptop that I did not install - I only installed Ultra. Why were
RealVNC and TightVNC on my laptop? I'm glad I was informed, and promptly
removed the registry entries (and software, if it was actually on my
system).

 

[A McGuire]

I would say to grouchy beta testers like yourself, don't get involved. You
bring a negative spirit to what can be a positive community. Why don't you
submit suggestions and/or bugs and allow them to implement our ideas rather
than thrashing out at software that is merely beta. I've got it installed,
and don't seem to find it of any annoyance.

 

[TedF]

When you have a limping local networking that has never
been fixed, I would fix the networking first before you waste
time on a anti-spyware to make networking more miserable.
Stay out of my local networking, and don't you dare
interfere.
These stumbling blocks adds nothing but pain to networked
software, and to the companies that make these software
when they stop working.
MS intention to add the anti-spyware in their updates, have
to set them in the right path while they are listening, before
it is too late and they become deaf.

 

[TedF]

It is not the first MS software that is a bug and has no option
to disable.
MSN Messenger, MSN, the new Firewall, MS Office, inserting CDs
in the CD drive is some of them.
Who gave MS the permission to have million worthless options inserting
a CD, the AutoRun.inf is more than adequate.
That is what I call over engineering that makes harder for the average user.
On top of MS and other aggressive software, MS fails to fix the
Systray disappearing icons, and the big bugs in the Systray.

 

[Daibidh]

Ted,

Are you feeling alright? If you feel so strongly in the Microsoft
Conspiracy Theory, why are you even using their products? Responsible
people would consider that a moral dilemma.

Naturally, I don't share your view. There is a very informative post from
another tester who had the same problem. He outlines the true nature of the
problem and how he fixed it. Sometimes its better to listen than be heard.

Why don't you submit your bug and then take the time to find your answer
here. It will do you some good to do a little extracurricular reading.
Otherwise, the board room scene is over. You're fired. You've already done
your departing cameo shot. It's time to leave.

Dave

 

[TedF]

Gates is going to be your name in his inheritance will.!!!
Why polish the apple ?
You don't know where I am coming from, people like you,
ignorant hobbyists that ruins it for the business-man.
You are the one who is fired. You can't even talk my level
so stay out of it.

 

[Daibidh]

Teddy,

Feel free to translate your colloquialisms. They sound interesting but I'm
afraid I'm missing the point.

I know where you are coming from. You're having difficulty with a beta
product that was released to the public for TESTING. You have found one of
MANY problems that the developers WANT to fix. It is obvious that you
should uninstall it and wait until it is no longer a beta before making such
sweeping judgments. But then again, you're just someone who has had poor
results trying to master other Microsoft products and feel you have an axe
to grind.

Like most of us, you want something that "just works," period. No messing
with this or changing that. Well, if you haven't figured it out yet, the
industry isn't quite there yet. Is it? Unfortunately in this day and age,
you still have to be a computer enthusiast/hobbyist/IT professional or hire
one in order to properly maintain a computer system. Many business
professionals are too busy to be bothered with the nuts and bolts operation
of computing and are the most naive when it comes to maintaining them.

I really shouldn't have made the Apprentice crack but when someone is being
unnecessarily rude, it's hard not to follow suit. As far as not
communicating at your level, it's a good thing we don't measure intelligence
based solely on spelling and grammar. It's obvious English is not your
native language. Studies show those capable of successfully communicating
in more than one language have a distinct intellectual advantage over those
who can't.

There is no need for such negative anti-social behavior.

 

[whiteflyer]

What is worse, it has an option to remove icon in Systray, but
still keeps running hidden in the background.

I have read this complaint in several threads, and you seem to
misunderstand what the check box says.

"Hide The Microsoft Antispyware icon on the system tray"

Well that is EXACTLY what is does, it HIDES (does not display)the icon.
There is no mention at all in the check box in option to disable
Antispyware, it is there to HIDE the icon so as to leave the System tray
less cluttered.

whiteflyer

 

[A McGuire]

I love the new Firewall with XP SP2, the new security is great, am an avid
Office user, etc, etc. I just think you are one of the anti-M$ folks.
That's fine, but don't pollute the community that appreciates good,
interoperable software.

..02

 

[A McGuire]

Fired? I am an MS Administrator, and I will always have a job. End users
LIKE their products for the ease of use. It's the anti-M$ Administrators
that are the sticks in the mud. I don't get the anti-Gates attitude, but
you are certainly one of those on the far other side.

 

[TedF]

I love the new Firewall with XP SP2

You have to realize that their is local networking that have to
be performed and can't be firewalled.
It is OK if you want to do a firewall, but stay the hell
out of my local network.
I had to put two network cards in each computer, one firewalled
for the Internet, the other not firewalled for local networking.
Talking about nightmares trying to get both cards to work.
And every time MS updates the firewall, it sets it back on, on the
card that I disabled. So I get calls from all over because
networking stopped working, then I have to rush over to see
what the hell happened. Here I am running around fixing
people computers for nothing, because MS turned the Firewall
back on.

When did MS work or realized that Internet and Local networking
on the same network card is a big problem.
First the Internet uses all the network resources, second the
firewall is an obstacle and have to be addressed.
MS is rushing into those new features, with no respect to
other things that have to be performed.

 

[TedF]

I am an MS Administrator

No wonder XP is screwed.
I am not anti-Gates. I am anti-sloppy programmers and
ignorant engineers, that don't know and don't realize what
is going in the real world.
Too excited to show their witty ways impractically.
I am from the first persons that opposed HTML in outlook in
1996 or 1997. Eight years after MS realized that the feature
is dangerous. That is how slow thinkers are MS engineers.
I put my life and money in MS, and I expect MS to have respect
to all the companies and people that also did. I see nothing
but disappointments, more worthless features, and bugs that never
get fixed.

 

[Daibidh]

Ted,

I'm not sure what difficulty you're running into but two NICs? Even with
SP2 firewall you can easily configure it to file and print share only on
your local network while still protecting your internet connection. Using
the Exceptions and Advanced tabs you can really customize it by opening or
closing all manner of ports, changing the scope of accessibility from any
computer to a customize list or just any computer in your local network.
You can customize by application or service. It certainly isn't the most
robust firewall but its a huge step forward from the original Windows
Firewall. I've yet to find a network situation that can't be configured to
work with SP2 firewall.

I've used SP2 firewall for a good while, I recently upgraded to a full
consumer firewall package and have since turned SP2 Firewall off. It's
never arbitrarily turned back on but that might be because Security Center
has detected my other firewall. In this world of malware, P2P, and IM, you
still want some sort of firewall protection even between computers on the
same local network.

It has been said before that for a long while Microsoft's focus has been
ease of use at the expense of security and now the pendulum has started to
swing the other way. Bloatware is a security risk. I believe Microsoft has
since started the long and arduous task of re-educating it's designers and
programmers to the new reality. It's obvious that some projects can't be
saved... Windows and it's endless series of patches is a good example. I am
hoping Longhorn fully embraces the new software culture of leaner meaner
code with fewer opportunities for vulnerability!

Dave

 

[TedF]

I'm not sure what difficulty you're running into but two NICs?

Its a nightmare to set one with File Sharing, and not firewalled
for Local Networking.
The other Firewalled without File sharing for the Internet.
Some of the cards will not connect in some computers, work OK
on others.
In one computer, formatted and reinstalled Win XP twice with
no help. it worked only if I set a bridge.
Also for some reason, XP will not recognize a share after SP2,
unless you share the whole drive.
Three are brand new Dell computers, the other two are old ones,
with Gigabit network cards and two routers.

The other problem, if I set a card NOT firewalled, "MS Updates" sets
it back on, and access to the local network either stops working
or stop working at times.

MS have to re-visit and extensively work and test local networking in XP.

Adding Anti-Spyware to watch local ports, is going to make it much
more miserable.

With DSL and Cable new to all of us, a second Network card is a must have,
otherwise the Internet is going to make local networking unreliable busy
network.
Don't dare tell any of the employees not to listen to Internet music,
play Internet games, or listen to the news. They think you are being
funny and an idiot.