New one on me --- Heatshink stuck to the CPU so hard when I pull on it the CPU came out of the socke

[JohnS]

Thats even with the lever locked down for the CPU. Cant get to the
lever unless you take off the massive CPU on this 3200 Compaq AMD 64
system and so I pulled on the heatsink to get it off the CPU and the
whole thing came out. Luckily it looks like no damage was done ---I
hope. Havent tried it yet since this happened last night.

 

[kony]

Thats even with the lever locked down for the CPU. Cant get to the
lever unless you take off the massive CPU on this 3200 Compaq AMD 64
system and so I pulled on the heatsink to get it off the CPU and the
whole thing came out. Luckily it looks like no damage was done ---I
hope. Havent tried it yet since this happened last night.

Yep, Gateway P4 /Celeron systems used to have same problem a
lot. If you realize the 'sink is stuck to the CPU before
it's pulled the pins out of the socket, turn the system on
with the fan disconnected only long enough to soften up the
thermal material or pull the fan and put a hairdryer nozzle
up to it to heat it. When there's a little play between the
'sink and retention frame it can help to try to (gently)
twist the 'sink side-to-side moreso than pulling straight
up.

If it looks ok, it probably is. Pins are bound on pretty
good, odds are low a pin would be detached and not come
completely off. I'd worry more about pulling the top of the
core itself apart but it seems they're stuck on pretty good,
you dont' hear of anyone damaging one like that too often.

 

[John McGaw]

Thats even with the lever locked down for the CPU. Cant get to the
lever unless you take off the massive CPU on this 3200 Compaq AMD 64
system and so I pulled on the heatsink to get it off the CPU and the
whole thing came out. Luckily it looks like no damage was done ---I
hope. Havent tried it yet since this happened last night.

Very common, and becomes almost a certainly with some sorts of compound
if the heatsink has been in place for some years. I've found it easiest
to actually push down slightly on the HS, to keep the CPU from pulling
from the socket, and rotating it slightly left and right after its
retainers are unclipped/unscrewed/whatever. Typically that rotation
breaks it loose for me. The upside is that I've never managed to hurt a
CPU or socket by pulling it out forcibly with the lever down. But it
never got any easier to get the CPU away from the HS once it was popped
loose and the pins suddenly all become vulnerable to every slip.

 

[J. Eric Durbin]

Thats even with the lever locked down for the CPU. Cant get to the
lever unless you take off the massive CPU on this 3200 Compaq AMD 64
system and so I pulled on the heatsink to get it off the CPU and the
whole thing came out. Luckily it looks like no damage was done ---I
hope. Havent tried it yet since this happened last night.

That happened to me as well with an Athlon 64 3000+ using the stock
heatsink and Arctic Silver. It had been in place for only 6 months or
so.

In my case, I did bend a couple of pins when the CPU popped out, but
using a method I believe Kony mentioned in one of his articles, I
massaged the pins back into approximate alignment gently using the
eraser end of a pencil until the CPU dropped easily into place.

Worked like a charm.

 

[kony]

Very common, and becomes almost a certainly with some sorts of compound
if the heatsink has been in place for some years. I've found it easiest
to actually push down slightly on the HS, to keep the CPU from pulling
from the socket, and rotating it slightly left and right after its
retainers are unclipped/unscrewed/whatever. Typically that rotation
breaks it loose for me. The upside is that I've never managed to hurt a
CPU or socket by pulling it out forcibly with the lever down. But it
never got any easier to get the CPU away from the HS once it was popped
loose and the pins suddenly all become vulnerable to every slip.

A hair-dryer can help then, too.

 

[kony]

That happened to me as well with an Athlon 64 3000+ using the stock
heatsink and Arctic Silver. It had been in place for only 6 months or
so.

In my case, I did bend a couple of pins when the CPU popped out, but
using a method I believe Kony mentioned in one of his articles, I
massaged the pins back into approximate alignment gently using the
eraser end of a pencil until the CPU dropped easily into place.

Whatever works... but I suggest using the lead-end of a
mechanical pencil, removing the lead then slipping it over
the pin to bend it. One of the most important things is to
not force the tip completely down to the base of the pin but
to leave a small fraction of a millimeter at least from the
bottom so bending it isn't pulling upwards as hard on the
pin base-carrier bond.

 

[JohnS]

A hair-dryer can help then, too.

I was thinking about it but I didnt have one handy. I noticed I
couldnt get it back into any socket since it wouldnt fit with the
lever up and there was no way to put the cpu with the big old hairy
heatsink stuck on it with the lever down.

I start gently prying it with a screw driver between the actual chip
and heatsink. It seemed like it was held in place by epoxy. I thought
for a few moments that maybe Compaq had sone something bizarrely
stupid and used thermal epoxy.

I was also deathly afraid I was going to chip the chip. Not the die
but the actual chip surface where the pins are mounted this time
since I was using the screwdriver as a lever. Actually it was dumb and
the chances you would gouge the heatsink or crack the chip are high.
Luckily with gently soft leverage on all sides it suddenly popped off.


Im having continuing problems with my CHaintech too. CHaintech agreed
to take it back but then once again I thought I figured out what was
wrong and I probably was largely right. My ATI 800XL when I took it
out to check it was completely clogged with dust. There was so much
dust crammed into that narrow space since the heatsink has a cover on
it --- it must have been overheating. After I blew all that junk out
FAR CRY stopped crashing 10-20 times a session.

Since I loathe having to send it back to chaintech and taking several
weeks I dragged my feet and convinced myself all the problems were
gone but its crashing again -- though far far less but on top of that
its giving me the classic data corruption and blue screens. They
generously said they would issue yet another RMA if I took longer than
a month to send it back. I think I will.

 

[Shaun \(~misfit~\)]

Yep, Gateway P4 /Celeron systems used to have same problem a
lot. If you realize the 'sink is stuck to the CPU before
it's pulled the pins out of the socket, turn the system on
with the fan disconnected only long enough to soften up the
thermal material or pull the fan and put a hairdryer nozzle
up to it to heat it. When there's a little play between the
'sink and retention frame it can help to try to (gently)
twist the 'sink side-to-side moreso than pulling straight
up.

If it looks ok, it probably is. Pins are bound on pretty
good, odds are low a pin would be detached and not come
completely off. I'd worry more about pulling the top of the
core itself apart but it seems they're stuck on pretty good,
you dont' hear of anyone damaging one like that too often.

What I find disturbing is that this is a pre-built, big-name company AMD64
system. AMD *do not* endorse the use of thermal pads for their IHS range of
CPUs. It violates the warranty. I've heard of this happening with P4s before
many times but this is the first time I've heard of it happening with an
A64. Maybe Compaq need a wake-up call?

 

[JohnS]

What I find disturbing is that this is a pre-built, big-name company AMD64
system. AMD *do not* endorse the use of thermal pads for their IHS range of
CPUs. It violates the warranty. I've heard of this happening with P4s before
many times but this is the first time I've heard of it happening with an
A64. Maybe Compaq need a wake-up call?

You know Ive since found they seem to all do that.

I had to take my new X2 dual core off cause Im RMAing my motherboard.
Samething happened. The goop , a kind of gluey clay like thermal
substance they use now instead of the slick pad they use to use in the
older Athlons tends to suck the heatink onto the processor really
tight after you mash it on with the clip. Its really hard to get off
after you do it once.


The mainthing beside taking it off is people using to claim if you had
a retail warranty you had to have the thermal pad on the heatsink if
you sent the thing in for warranty replacement to show you were using
it. Well I just took this off and because its gummy and clay like ---
its all partially stuck on the CPU and heatsink all messed up now not
flat like it was before. Im not sure it would flatten out and cover
the area now properly if you tried to reuse it. Id like to take it off
and use paste. Does that void the warranty? Im wondering about that
now.