Network not working

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Blair

I have an XP connected to a 98SE via a crossover cable
XP is the host and I can access the internet form 98 OK
XP shows both PCs but attempting to open 98 gives the following message
"\\ OEMCOMPUTER is not accessible. You might not have permission to use he
network resource.The network path was not found"

98 shows only the heading "entire network" and when attempting to open I get
the following message "Network is not accessible"
I had a problem early in this year but it has worked since then until now.
Any ideas?
Blair
 
D

Doug Sherman [MVP]

Try changing the user name and password on the Win9x machine to match the
user name and password used to log onto the XP machine.

Doug Sherman
MCSE, MCSA, MCP+I, MVP
 
B

Blair

I do not use my user name and have no password for XP to log on
Also the same is true for 98
Any further ideas?
Blair
 
M

Malke

Blair said:
I do not use my user name and have no password for XP to log on
Also the same is true for 98
Any further ideas?
Blair

Even though you are booting directly to your Desktop in XP, you do have
a username and password (null). Look at the User Accounts applet in
Control Panel to see the name of the user account you are using.

However, it sounds more like you have misconfigured firewalls in place.

Here are some links to help you with your network:

http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/xp_ics - ICS
http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/xp_ics/clientwiz.htm - XP
ICS - Client Setup Using the Network Setup Wizard
http://www.bcmaven.com/networking/faq.htm
http://www.bcmaven.com/networking/myths.htm

This network troubleshooter is particularly useful if you take the time
to go through it:
http://winhlp.com/wxnet.htm - Small Network Troubleshooter by Hans-Georg
Michna

Malke
 
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Doug Sherman [MVP]

Yes, maybe you don't use your user name, but Windows does. On the Win98
machine make sure your primary logon is set to Client for Microsoft
Networks, and change your user name to match your XP user name. Null
passwords are not recommended.

Doug Sherman
MCSE, MCSA, MCP+I, MVP
 
B

Blair

Malke said:
Even though you are booting directly to your Desktop in XP, you do have
a username and password (null). Look at the User Accounts applet in
Control Panel to see the name of the user account you are using.

However, it sounds more like you have misconfigured firewalls in place.

Here are some links to help you with your network:

http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/xp_ics - ICS
http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/xp_ics/clientwiz.htm - XP
ICS - Client Setup Using the Network Setup Wizard
http://www.bcmaven.com/networking/faq.htm
http://www.bcmaven.com/networking/myths.htm

This network troubleshooter is particularly useful if you take the time
to go through it:
http://winhlp.com/wxnet.htm - Small Network Troubleshooter by Hans-Georg
Michna

Malke
--
Thanks. I will now wade through the web sites and hopefully solve my problem
Blair
 
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Blair

Malke said:
Even though you are booting directly to your Desktop in XP, you do have
a username and password (null). Look at the User Accounts applet in
Control Panel to see the name of the user account you are using.

However, it sounds more like you have misconfigured firewalls in place.

Here are some links to help you with your network:

http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/xp_ics - ICS
http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/xp_ics/clientwiz.htm - XP
ICS - Client Setup Using the Network Setup Wizard
http://www.bcmaven.com/networking/faq.htm
http://www.bcmaven.com/networking/myths.htm

This network troubleshooter is particularly useful if you take the time
to go through it:
http://winhlp.com/wxnet.htm - Small Network Troubleshooter by Hans-Georg
Michna

Malke

Thanks for your help. I read all the web sites until I was punch drunk and
changed some of the settings but no change.
I then deleted the firewall in Zone Alarm on the 98 and wonders the network
was restored on my XP so I was able to transfer my backup files to the 98
I then disabled the firewall in XP and in Zone Alarm and I can see the XP
on the 98 but the 98 itself does not appear!
Could someone suggest why the 98 cannot see itself?
Also how can I leave my firewalls disabled?
Blair
 
B

Blair

Thanks for your help. I read all the web sites until I was punch drunk and
changed some of the settings but no change.
I then deleted the firewall in Zone Alarm on the 98 and wonders the network
was restored on my XP so I was able to transfer my backup files to the 98
I then disabled the firewall in XP and in Zone Alarm and I can see the XP
on the 98 but the 98 itself does not appear!
Could someone suggest why the 98 cannot see itself?
Also how can I leave my firewalls disabled?
Blair
I sent my message too soon.
I rebooted the 98 and hey presto the network was complete on the 98
But again I had to disable the Zone Alarm in order for the XP to work
correctly.
What is the answer to the Firewall question ?
Blair
 
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Blair

Blair said:
I sent my message too soon.
I rebooted the 98 and hey presto the network was complete on the 98
But again I had to disable the Zone Alarm in order for the XP to work
correctly.
What is the answer to the Firewall question ?
Blair
I think I have one answer. When I want to use the network to transfer files
I ac disable Zone Alarm on each PC and afterwards reinstate them
How does that sound?
Blair
 
M

Malke

Blair said:
I think I have one answer. When I want to use the network to transfer
files I ac disable Zone Alarm on each PC and afterwards reinstate them
How does that sound?
Blair

It sounds like you should read the Help file - and there is a tutorial -
on using ZoneAlarm. You do not need to disable your firewall; in fact
you should *not* disable your firewall. You need to properly configure
it to allow lan traffic as trusted. I believe ZA does this under the
Zones tab. I can't check for you since I don't run ZA. IIRC, you can
add an IP range which is what I would suggest doing. For ex., my
network range would be 192.168.1.0-192.168.1.254. Substitute the
correct subnet for your network.

Malke
 
B

Blair

Malke said:
It sounds like you should read the Help file - and there is a tutorial -
on using ZoneAlarm. You do not need to disable your firewall; in fact
you should *not* disable your firewall. You need to properly configure
it to allow lan traffic as trusted. I believe ZA does this under the
Zones tab. I can't check for you since I don't run ZA. IIRC, you can
add an IP range which is what I would suggest doing. For ex., my
network range would be 192.168.1.0-192.168.1.254. Substitute the
correct subnet for your network.

Malke
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I now realise that what you say is correct and I can add an IP range but
don't know where I can find the Correct IP address
Zone Alarm Trusted zones on my XP are
Broadcom 440x 192.168.0.1/255.255.255.0
Loopback adaptor 127.0.0.1 IP address
Zone Alarm Trusted zones for my 98 are
Loopback adaptor 127.0.0.1 IP address
PPP adaptor 0000/0000
F5D5000 PCI Card/desk 192.168.0.2/255.255.255
Could you please advise me
Thank you
Blair
 
B

Blair

It sounds like you should read the Help file - and there is a tutorial -
on using ZoneAlarm. You do not need to disable your firewall; in fact
you should *not* disable your firewall. You need to properly configure
it to allow lan traffic as trusted. I believe ZA does this under the
Zones tab. I can't check for you since I don't run ZA. IIRC, you can
add an IP range which is what I would suggest doing. For ex., my
network range would be 192.168.1.0-192.168.1.254. Substitute the
correct subnet for your network.

Malke
--
I have now discovered the IP address for the Laptop which Zone Alarm listed
as a site which had previously tried to access the PC and added it to the
trusted zone on my 98 and it works OK
The IP address was 195.92.195.95 DNS
But I still do not know how to find the IP address for my Desktop
Can you please tell me Malke how to find it.
Blair
 
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Doug Sherman [MVP]

On the XP machine, Start/Run cmd ENTER.

type: ipconfig ENTER

That will show you the machine's IP address.

Doug Sherman
MCSE, MCSA, MCP+I, MVP
 
B

Blair

Thanks Doug
Blair

Doug Sherman said:
On the XP machine, Start/Run cmd ENTER.

type: ipconfig ENTER

That will show you the machine's IP address.

Doug Sherman
MCSE, MCSA, MCP+I, MVP
 

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