need IDE 5.25 floppy drive

S

Steffen Breitbach

Would appreciate some feedback.

So, you already have 2 Floppy drives in your PC?

Bis denn...
Steffen
 
W

Will Dormann

Jim said:
I am looking for a 5.25" floppy drive that will work as an IDE component.
Does such a thing exist? I really don't want to mess with installing a
separate floppy controller card if I can avoid it.

I've tried to do some searches to find a 5.25 IDE floppy model, with no
success. I wonder if any of the dual drive models are IDE?


I doubt it. Why do you need IDE, though? Do you already have 2
floppy devices?


-WD
 
C

CJT

Jim said:
I am looking for a 5.25" floppy drive that will work as an IDE component.
Does such a thing exist? I really don't want to mess with installing a
separate floppy controller card if I can avoid it.

I've tried to do some searches to find a 5.25 IDE floppy model, with no
success. I wonder if any of the dual drive models are IDE?

Would appreciate some feedback.

Thanks
Jim
(e-mail address removed)
I've never seen one, although SCSI floppy drives exist, so I can't rule
it out.

I think there are also USB floppy drives, if that helps.
 
J

Jim Basinger

I am looking for a 5.25" floppy drive that will work as an IDE component.
Does such a thing exist? I really don't want to mess with installing a
separate floppy controller card if I can avoid it.

I've tried to do some searches to find a 5.25 IDE floppy model, with no
success. I wonder if any of the dual drive models are IDE?

Would appreciate some feedback.

Thanks
Jim
(e-mail address removed)
 
J

Jim Basinger

Haven't been able to find a USB in 5.25" though. That would certainly do
the trick if I could.

Jim
 
I

idunno

Jim Basinger said:
I am looking for a 5.25" floppy drive that will work as an IDE component.
Does such a thing exist? I really don't want to mess with installing a
separate floppy controller card if I can avoid it.

I've tried to do some searches to find a 5.25 IDE floppy model, with no
success. I wonder if any of the dual drive models are IDE?

Would appreciate some feedback.

Thanks
Jim
(e-mail address removed)

A 5.25 Floppy drive is a long-obsolete device which uses large 5.25"
floppy media of a smaller capacity (1.2M or less). I assume you have
some old disks you need to read? Otherwise it would be of little use.

You will not find an IDE or USB based 5.25 floppy. 5.25 floppies are
hard to find. If a retailer has them they are expensive. You may
have luck finding a used or system pull. Just be sure you have a
floppy ribbon that has the old-style floppy connector.
 
R

Robert B. Clark

I am looking for a 5.25" floppy drive that will work as an IDE component.
Does such a thing exist? I really don't want to mess with installing a
separate floppy controller card if I can avoid it.

To my knowledge, there are no ATA 5.25" (or 3.5", for that matter) FDDs.
However, there are USB 3.5" FDDs, so I suppose anything goes. :)

Your existing FDD controller can handle two devices. Simply connect the
drive to the floppy interface cable between the twist and the FDD
controller:


MB FDD controller -----FDD B ----X----FDD A

The "X" denotes the twist in the cable. Your original FDD is likely
attached as "FDD A"; your 5.25: drive will be installed at "FDD B"
I've tried to do some searches to find a 5.25 IDE floppy model, with no
success. I wonder if any of the dual drive models are IDE?

See above regarding IDE floppy drives. However, a quick search did turn up
some dual 3.5/5.25 FDDs, albeit quite expensive. Here's one vendor:

http://www.computerpartsgalore.com/drives-floppy.htm

You might also want to try eBay or a local computer fair.
 
B

bill

I think that's bogus. Why, under system requirements, do they list
floppy drive controller and cable?

That, I couldn't say.
I also don't know why a Toshiba laptop, when restoring the hard drive,
will say it's loading WIN95, when it's loading XP.
Some things are just strange! :-/
 
B

Barry OGrady

To my knowledge, there are no ATA 5.25" (or 3.5", for that matter) FDDs.
However, there are USB 3.5" FDDs, so I suppose anything goes. :)

I have an external 5.25" floppy drive that plugs into a printer port.
Your existing FDD controller can handle two devices. Simply connect the
drive to the floppy interface cable between the twist and the FDD
controller:


MB FDD controller -----FDD B ----X----FDD A

The "X" denotes the twist in the cable. Your original FDD is likely
attached as "FDD A"; your 5.25: drive will be installed at "FDD B"


See above regarding IDE floppy drives. However, a quick search did turn up
some dual 3.5/5.25 FDDs, albeit quite expensive. Here's one vendor:

http://www.computerpartsgalore.com/drives-floppy.htm

You might also want to try eBay or a local computer fair.


-Barry
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R

Rod Speed

I have an external 5.25" floppy drive that plugs into a printer port.

Bet it doesnt. Bet it plugs into a multipurpose
port on a laptop that has that type of connector.
 
B

Barry OGrady

Bet it doesnt. Bet it plugs into a multipurpose
port on a laptop that has that type of connector.

You'd lose. :) It has a picture of a printer next to the connector, and inside there
is an interface circuit board and a standard floppy drive.

I also have an external SCSI hard drive that connects through an interface board
to a standard printer port. It uses a .sys file that loads from config.sys.

To round things out I have a scanner that connects to a standard printer port.

All three devices have a pass through to allow a printer to share the same port.


-Barry
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R

Rod Speed

You'd lose. :)

We'll see.
It has a picture of a printer next to the connector,

Some of those for laptops did, just to indicate that it
was supposed to plug into the multipurpose connector.
and inside there is an interface circuit
board and a standard floppy drive.

Would be a hell of a lot more surprising if it didnt.
I also have an external SCSI hard drive that connects
through an interface board to a standard printer port.
It uses a .sys file that loads from config.sys.
To round things out I have a scanner that connects to a standard printer port.

Yes, that wasnt at all uncommon with those, and cd
burners too. Not common at all with floppy drives tho.
All three devices have a pass through to allow a printer to share the same port.

Doesnt prove that that floppy drive will work fine on a standard printer port.
 
B

Barry OGrady

We'll see.


Some of those for laptops did, just to indicate that it
was supposed to plug into the multipurpose connector.

Is that a special interface that does printers as well?
Would be a hell of a lot more surprising if it didnt.

I have an Acer 350 notebook which has an internal floppy drive.
The floppy drive can be removed and connected to the printer port
via a cable.

I also have an TI notebook which came with an external floppy drive that
also plugs into the printer port.

Are those printer ports specially made for the purpose?
Yes, that wasnt at all uncommon with those, and cd
burners too. Not common at all with floppy drives tho.

While not common it surely is possible? The printer port is quite slow so it would
seem more appropriate for slow devices like floppy drives.
Doesnt prove that that floppy drive will work fine on a standard printer port.

True. I don't know in the case of the units I have because I have never used them.
I picked them up at an auction along with some other stuff.

There is something you might be able to help with. I have a TI Extensa 900 notebook
that came with an external floppy drive that plugs into the printer port. I can't get the
floppy drive to work. The manual just says to plug it in and use it.
The floppy drive seems completely dead. Do you have any ideas on how I can get it to
work?


-Barry
========
Web page: http://members.optusnet.com.au/~barry.og
Atheist, radio scanner, LIPD information.
Voicemail/fax number +14136227640
 
R

Rod Speed

Is that a special interface that does printers as well?

Yeah, it can be with a laptop.
I have an Acer 350 notebook which has an internal
floppy drive. The floppy drive can be removed and
connected to the printer port via a cable.

Yeah, thats not that unusual with laptops and notebooks
which only have one physical bay, so you can have both the
floppy drive and the cdrom drive in use at the same time.
I also have an TI notebook which came with an
external floppy drive that also plugs into the printer port.
Are those printer ports specially made for the purpose?
Yep.
While not common it surely is possible?

Yes, its certainly technically feasible. After all, laplink can
use a printer port as a decent bandwidth comms channel.
The printer port is quite slow so it would seem more
appropriate for slow devices like floppy drives.

Yeah, just like it was used for scsi devices and scanners too.

All one hell of a kludge but there was lots of that with those.
True. I don't know in the case of the units I have because I have never
used them. I picked them up at an auction along with some other stuff.

Yeah, lots of relatively obscure stuff like that shows up at those.
There is something you might be able to help with. I have
a TI Extensa 900 notebook that came with an external floppy
drive that plugs into the printer port. I can't get thefloppy
drive to work. The manual just says to plug it in and use it.

Yeah, that was the usual thing, the laptop/
notebook detected its presence at boot time.
The floppy drive seems completely dead.

And thats always a real possibility with that stuff, you've got a dead one.
Do you have any ideas on how I can get it to work?

You'd have to check if its dead first, by using it in place of one
that does work. Its may be worth checking the basics like one
of the internal connections to the physical drive hasnt come off
etc or replacing the physical drive with another inside its housing.

You can get some pretty obscure jumpering of floppy drives
for specific uses tho with many modern drives not bothering
to have the jumpers anymore. Sometimes they only have
solder bridge or trace cut jumpering if they have anything.
 
R

Robert B. Clark

The LS120 etc do 3.5"

Yes, but we were talking about 5.25" floppy disk devices here, not LS120s.
Not always.

While almost anything is possible, I must say that in twenty years I've not
seen a x86 FDD controller that could not support two floppy drives, with
the appropriate cable.
 
R

Rod Speed

Yes, but we were talking about 5.25" floppy disk devices here, not LS120s.

I was clearly commenting on your '(or 3.5", for that matter)'
While almost anything is possible,

It isnt even that uncommon lately.
I must say that in twenty years I've not seen a x86 FDD controller
that could not support two floppy drives, with the appropriate cable.

Have a look at some of the current Intel motherboards.

Like two serial ports, we are now starting to see support
for the second one dropped in the latest chipsets.
 

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