MVPs Please!

[mcp6453]

MVPs, please go back up in the messages and help me with "Unable to
Access Workgroup Computers." Gary, Kelly, Robear, and Ron have skipped
over it, and I would think that one of you might be able to help.

If there is something wrong with the way I asked the question or with
the newsgroup where it was asked, please let me know. I'll do what I can
to get it right.

Thanks!

 

[Shenan Stanley]

MVPs, please go back up in the messages and help me with "Unable to
Access Workgroup Computers." Gary, Kelly, Robear, and Ron have
skipped over it, and I would think that one of you might be able to
help.
If there is something wrong with the way I asked the question or
with the newsgroup where it was asked, please let me know. I'll do
what I can to get it right.

It's been less than 5 hours since you posted.
Please be patient.

This is a peer-to-peer newsgroup.
There should be *no* expectations and a lot of patience.

 

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maybe the problem
is that you are insisting
for help only from mvps.

possibly if you commanded
for them, they might come
a runnin and waggin their
tale.... just for little ol you.


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[Mark F.]

maybe the problem
is that you are insisting
for help only from mvps.

possibly if you commanded
for them, they might come
a runnin and waggin their
tale.... just for little ol you.

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I think the worm is too small!

(c:
Mark

 

[Gerry]

Now there's a tale <G>! Don't fish have tails?



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Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
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there are those who are enablers
and the rest of use e-nibblers /|
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there are those who are enablers
and the rest of us are e-nibblers /|
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[Gary S. Terhune]

I saw it. I didn't answer it because I'm no genius when it comes to
networking issues. Lots of others here are much more qualified to answer
your question than I am. Have patience.

 

[Robert Moir]

MVPs, please go back up in the messages and help me with "Unable to Access
Workgroup Computers." Gary, Kelly, Robear, and Ron have skipped over it,
and I would think that one of you might be able to help.

If there is something wrong with the way I asked the question or with the
newsgroup where it was asked, please let me know. I'll do what I can to
get it right.

I'd love to help but apparently I'm not qualified.

 

[Ron Badour]

I struggle with my own minor networking issues--sorry. I see Sheenan and DB
have replied so good luck with their recommendations. Since you are not
using the web face interface (DB's link), consider posting to:

microsoft.public.windowsxp.network_web

By the way, as you may have noticed, it tends to irritate people when
posters ask for help from MVPs or some other specific group. Lots of
knowledgeable folks post here and do not have any titles in their signature
blocks.

 

[Shenan Stanley]

MVPs, please go back up in the messages and help me with "Unable to
Access Workgroup Computers." Gary, Kelly, Robear, and Ron have
skipped over it, and I would think that one of you might be able to
help.
If there is something wrong with the way I asked the question or
with the newsgroup where it was asked, please let me know. I'll do
what I can to get it right.

I struggle with my own minor networking issues--sorry. I see
Sheenan and DB have replied so good luck with their
recommendations.

"Shenan" ;-)

By the way, as you may have noticed, it tends to irritate people
when posters ask for help from MVPs or some other specific group. Lots of
knowledgeable folks post here and do not have any titles in
their signature blocks.

I agree. MVPs are nothing special. They are people just like the OP who
decided they might be able to help others with what knowledge they have and
in doing so - were nominated for and accepted a 'title' from Microsoft for
sharing what they know with others freely. By far - MVPs are not the only
ones with the knowledge necessary to resolve issues in these newsgroups - in
fact - they may not have actually experienced whatever issue someone might
be having and could very well be the worst choice for help.

In short - there is no reason to limit WHOM you ask for help.

 

[=?iso-8859-1?Q?_db_=B4=AF`=B7.._=3E=3C=29=29=29=BA]

maybe people think of this
newsgroup like a mickey D's:

"Hello...?, I gotz a networking problem and
i need a mac value professional NOW...!"

"and dont forget the apple pie..!"

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[Ken Blake, MVP]

I agree. MVPs are nothing special. They are people just like the OP who
decided they might be able to help others with what knowledge they have and
in doing so - were nominated for and accepted a 'title' from Microsoft for
sharing what they know with others freely. By far - MVPs are not the only
ones with the knowledge necessary to resolve issues in these newsgroups - in
fact - they may not have actually experienced whatever issue someone might
be having and could very well be the worst choice for help.

In short - there is no reason to limit WHOM you ask for help.

Well said. Anyone who asks for help from MVPs only is shooting himself
in the foot. Besides everything Shenan says above, note that the day
before each MVP became an MVP, he didn't have substantially less
knowledge.

Many MVPs are good sources of information here. Many people who are
not MVPs are also good sources of information.

 

[Peter Foldes]

You are working against yourself when you post this type of heading. MVP's were and are as anybody else in these newsgroups. Some people know about Networking and some do not. There is people that can help you and know the answer to your issue and they might not be an MVP but an poster such as yourself.

Next you should always post this to the appropriate newsgroup that deals with the issue that you are posting. I this case it would be the networking newsgroup. I suggest that you post it over to that group and wait for an answer. It can take up to 24-48 hrs before someone will post an answer to you. Some people also respect their weekend and their families so do not except an immediate answer as you did now.

 

[mcp6453]

maybe the problem
is that you are insisting
for help only from mvps.

possibly if you commanded
for them, they might come
a runnin and waggin their
tale.... just for little ol you.

I never said, "MVPs only can answer these questions". I don't know where
you got it. You must have read it quickly.

Telling me to search for the answer is not helpful, either. I did a lot
of searching before I posted here.

You're wasting bandwidth and causing me to do the same.

 

[mcp6453]

Well said. Anyone who asks for help from MVPs only is shooting himself
in the foot. Besides everything Shenan says above, note that the day
before each MVP became an MVP, he didn't have substantially less
knowledge.

Many MVPs are good sources of information here. Many people who are
not MVPs are also good sources of information.

Ken, you too have been a BIG help to me over the years. The post did not
say MVPs only...it said MVPs. I saw you guys skipping over it. Knowing
how fast posts fade into the ether, I was hoping to get draw attention
to the post.

I'm probably just going to rebuild the machine. I already have a couple
of hours tied up in it, and the problem is apparently not as common as I
thought it would be.

 

[mcp6453]

I struggle with my own minor networking issues--sorry. I see Sheenan and DB
have replied so good luck with their recommendations. Since you are not
using the web face interface (DB's link), consider posting to:

microsoft.public.windowsxp.network_web

By the way, as you may have noticed, it tends to irritate people when
posters ask for help from MVPs or some other specific group. Lots of
knowledgeable folks post here and do not have any titles in their signature
blocks.

Ron, you've been helping me for years, all the way back to the Windows
95 days, and you have always been professional and courteous. Thanks.

Yeah, it seems strange how sensitive people are over the MVP thing. If
the designation is so inflammatory, why do you guys keep using it? As I
recall, Microsoft decided to do away with the program one time, and
there was a major outcry.

I'll post to the other newsgroup, but then some self-appointed usenet
cop will jump on me for posting in multiple newsgroups.

 

[Shenan Stanley]

Ron, you've been helping me for years, all the way back to the
Windows 95 days, and you have always been professional and
courteous. Thanks.
Yeah, it seems strange how sensitive people are over the MVP thing.
If the designation is so inflammatory, why do you guys keep using
it? As I recall, Microsoft decided to do away with the program one
time, and there was a major outcry.

I'll post to the other newsgroup, but then some self-appointed
usenet cop will jump on me for posting in multiple newsgroups.

Why have you not answered the questions posed in the original thread you
started instead of replying here?
You wanted attention (after only 5 hours) to a post and now *you* neglect
it?

 

[mcp6453]

Why have you not answered the questions posed in the original thread you
started instead of replying here?
You wanted attention (after only 5 hours) to a post and now *you* neglect
it?

I am writing as we speak, collecting information.

 

[mcp6453]

Why have you not answered the questions posed in the original thread you
started instead of replying here?
You wanted attention (after only 5 hours) to a post and now *you* neglect
it?

I've taken the thread to microsoft.public.windowsxp.network_web, as I
was chastised to do, but here are the answers to your questions:

What is recorded in the Event Log?

Absolutely nothing of any help. No errors, no nothing.

Do you have Norton Internet Security installed (or any third-party
firewall?)
No

If you ping the "server" by name --> what do you get back?

Path not found.

If you tracert the "server" by name --> what do you get back?

Server cannot be found.

If you ipconfig /all on each of the machines (in an opened command
prompt) --> other than the IP addresses, what is different? All using
the same DNS? All in the same subnet?

Some machines are DHCP, some are static. I have not been to each machine
to do an ipconfig /all. The problem is only happening with one machine.
The only difference is that the one XP machine cannot connect to the
share drives or folders on other machines using UNC. All machines are
using the same DNS, and all machines are in the same subnet.

Verified all the computers are in the same workgroup? (although that
matters very little most of the time - it could make a difference
depending on how you map things...)

Yes, verified twice.

Are all the computers Windows XP Home Edition or Windows XP
Professional or what?

Server is XP Pro. Problem machine is XP Pro. Server is accessible from
other XP Pro and Win2K machines with no problem.

What specifically is the one computer that is acting up?

XP Pro. All computers are completely patched, no viruses, no spyware.

Have you opened a command prompt and entered: netsh winsock reset
<Enter> and rebooted to see if that helps (on the troubled machine.)

Yes, multiple times. I have also tried LSPFix.exe. It did not report a
problem with the winsock. I also removed and reinstalled Client for
Microsoft Windows, File and printer sharing, and TCP/IP.

Tried: Start button --> RUN --> netsh diag gui --> OK
and running the tests there?

I tried netsh, netdiag, msinfo32, and several other utilities, but I
cannot see the problem.

Matter of fact - have you been through this article?
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314067/

Yes, I went through that article in detail before I made my first post.

Is simple file sharing turned on?

No, it is not.

Thanks