MSH and Longhorn

[Bart Bailey]

Bart, you and I both know it's more than that which has your *clown* butt
out in left field on a routine basis and *twisted*. Maybe, it's that
combination of the marijuana joint laced with Prozac/Crack and whatever else
you're smoking that's doing it. ;-)

Duane

Once again Dr. "D" has succumbed to the intoxicating fumes wafting from
the arse of deception. Quite unlike you "city boyz n da hood", I take my
sacrament pure and uncut, no Prozac, crack or whatever you choose to
lace yours with.

 

[Bart Bailey]

maybe because as something approaches the speed of light the mater contracts
and becomes more massive,ha ha

Like the event horizon that Buckwheat is currently approaching in his
spiraling descent into ego overload?

 

[Duane Arnold]

You're a pure NUT out of Hell no matter what part of the woods you come from
there little Bart-ster.

You need to go find you a petticoat to ride on and scrape up some more
courage. I got to wonder about you and Art there with your petticoat your
on point you got some courage mentality of yours you seem to like to pull.
;-)

As always, you can just smoke-em another little bit of something laced and
scrape up a little manhood there too - Princess *B* the always somebody's NG
lap dog. ;-)

Duane

 

[Duane Arnold]

Like the event horizon that Buckwheat is currently approaching in his
spiraling descent into ego overload?

It's nothing you have not pulled before when you have nothing to stand on.

LOL there little Bart-ster LOL

Duane

 

[Duane Arnold]

Like all your other BS Bart-ster the *real* you manages to pop out here
recently. I certainly have a real good take on just what you're problem with
me is all about. ;-)

Duane

 

[Duane Arnold]

Oops! That's *your* problem is all about. ;-)

Duane

 

[cquirke (MVP Windows shell/user)]

(e-mail address removed) wrote

<further bluster left at the end for context>

Spoken like a true programmer. Before you preen yourself on that, I
should add that to a combat coder, that could be taken as an insult


Somewhere there is a programmer with years of experience in system
coding for a very large software company, who knows an awful lot about
JPEG, having coded OS handlers for such files. A few months ago, he'd
have strongly asserted that .jpg files were safe. And now?

The point is, combat coding cares nothing for intention, and while
years of working from the inetntion level downwards may cue you in
stupid exploitable design (duhhh, why not let unsolicited email
"message text" script the computer?), a lack of stupid design tells
you nothing about exploitable code insanity.

The article doesn't tell us much about Monad, other than yes, there's
yet another dangerous file type (or few) that provide new
opportunities to attack systems. It doesn't say anything more
specific than that, and doesn't ponder the added risks and benefits
that "managed" code may add to the mix.

If you were to say "Risks? Managed code is about reducing risk, so
it's all benefit and no risk!" then I'd just repeat this post in its
entirety. because clearly no lessons have been learned ;-)

And so we return to our scheduled blather...

When you have sat in class 8 hrs a day 5 days a week for four weeks on

1) Developing WEB based Application using C# .Net
2) Developing Windows Based Application using C# .Net
3) Developing XML WEB Services and Server Components using .Net
4) Other topics like how to use the .Net Framework and other such
features such as security.

In addition to that, you have passed a certification test or two in the
above areas.

And you have done some programming and implementation of the .Net
technology like I have, then I'll consider that you know what you're
talking about.

You don't have a *clue*.


---------- ----- ---- --- -- - - - -

Gone to bloggery: http://cquirke.blogspot.com

 

[Duane Arnold]

<further bluster left at the end for context>

Spoken like a true programmer. Before you preen yourself on that, I
should add that to a combat coder, that could be taken as an insult

I have never heard the term *combat* coder -- that's good one how
interesting. ;-)

Somewhere there is a programmer with years of experience in system
coding for a very large software company, who knows an awful lot about
JPEG, having coded OS handlers for such files. A few months ago, he'd
have strongly asserted that .jpg files were safe. And now?

Hey that's his problem.

The point is, combat coding cares nothing for intention, and while
years of working from the inetntion level downwards may cue you in
stupid exploitable design (duhhh, why not let unsolicited email
"message text" script the computer?), a lack of stupid design tells
you nothing about exploitable code insanity.

Nothing is one 100% and anything can be circumvented and defeated if the
conditions are right for the compromise.

The article doesn't tell us much about Monad, other than yes, there's
yet another dangerous file type (or few) that provide new
opportunities to attack systems. It doesn't say anything more
specific than that, and doesn't ponder the added risks and benefits
that "managed" code may add to the mix.

If you were to say "Risks? Managed code is about reducing risk, so
it's all benefit and no risk!" then I'd just repeat this post in its
entirety. because clearly no lessons have been learned ;-)

And so we return to our scheduled blather...

It also requires that Admin(s) of such systems that are running .Net
solutions know how to secure the MS O/S such as an NT based O/S as well.
There are 1,000 page books such as the Windows Security Resource Kit book
that's ISBN 0-7356-1868-2 that covers many aspects of security that
includes securing the registry, file system, accounts, IIS and other such
components on an NT based O/S just to name a few. And there are other
such books about securing different aspects on the MS Windows NT based
O/S platform that are out there.

The Admin or Security Admin of a NT based O/S platform facility must know
how to implement security and reduce risks and from what I understand
from frequenting the comp.security.firewall NG and in talking with the
top people in that NG, a lot of Admins don't know how to properly secure
an NT based O/S whether or not the platform is running .Net solutions.
;-)

Code intent in .Net managed code is not a *stops all and ends all
solution*. However, it's better than nothing which is the current state
as it stands to date and can only help.

So do go back to the non scheduled blather -- <plank> <g>


Duane MCP leading to the MCAD and God for bid I get that .NET MCSD <g>

 

[Hate K-CSC -- Duane ;-\)]

I have to reiterate *COMBAT CODER* that's absolutely too funny.

Duane

 

[Art]

I have never heard the term *combat* coder -- that's good one how
interesting. ;-)

Well, Dippy D, I'll write this very slowly since I know you can't read
and comprehend fast. I'll also indulge in blowing my own horn while
I'm at it. You should love that since you're such a expert at it.

Several years ago when Win 98 reigned supreme, I decided to write
a removal utility to _combat_ the Hybris internet worm. Clay offered
to put it up at his web site, and the claymania acv help pages were
born. It must have been a excellent idea since later on, the major
av vendors followed suit and began offering free removal utilities.

I also wrote and offered a Startup Axis Viewer which also must have
been a excellent idea since later on KAV offered their TroyanFind and
HijackThis appeared ... all in the same vein. More combat code.

Then there was my scanner which found embedded object Trojans
in Word DOCs. Later, after my hyping the subject, some major av
vendors started detecting such dangerous objects. More combat code.

My F-prot for DOS updaters and emergency utils weren't quite the
first. Bob Green, for one, had offered his version first. More combat
code.

Do you require more examples and explanations to help you through
your fog? Of course, I've never written any combat code for the NT
based OSes. You long ago convinced me that these OS were so
secure, they'ed never need antivirus weapons. LOL! Not really.
The truth is that I simply never got much interested in the more
recent security nightmares from MS.

On the subject of future security nighmares from MS, I see you've
as much as admitted there will likely be need for combat code. So all
of your bluster and insults are just so much garbage, as usual.

Bye bye Dippy D.

Art

http://home.epix.net/~artnpeg

 

[Duane Arnold]

Well, Dippy D, I'll write this very slowly since I know you can't read
and comprehend fast. I'll also indulge in blowing my own horn while
I'm at it. You should love that since you're such a expert at it.

Well Art be my guest at your attempt. ;-)

Several years ago when Win 98 reigned supreme, I decided to write
a removal utility to _combat_ the Hybris internet worm. Clay offered
to put it up at his web site, and the claymania acv help pages were
born. It must have been a excellent idea since later on, the major
av vendors followed suit and began offering free removal utilities.

Yeah, several years ago and you are still stuck on Win 98 are you.

I also wrote and offered a Startup Axis Viewer which also must have
been a excellent idea since later on KAV offered their TroyanFind and
HijackThis appeared ... all in the same vein. More combat code.

Anyone can be a light weight want-to-be little programmer such as
yourself. ;-)

Then there was my scanner which found embedded object Trojans
in Word DOCs. Later, after my hyping the subject, some major av
vendors started detecting such dangerous objects. More combat code.

WOW, somehow you made the big time I am not impressed.

My F-prot for DOS updaters and emergency utils weren't quite the
first. Bob Green, for one, had offered his version first. More combat
code.

Who care Art?

Do you require more examples and explanations to help you through
your fog? Of course, I've never written any combat code for the NT
based OSes. You long ago convinced me that these OS were so
secure, they'ed never need antivirus weapons. LOL! Not really.
The truth is that I simply never got much interested in the more
recent security nightmares from MS.

You moron I never said the Windows O/S didn't need AV software to protect
them just like the other O/S(s) use AV software besides the MS platform
there Art-ster.

On the subject of future security nighmares from MS, I see you've
as much as admitted there will likely be need for combat code. So all
of your bluster and insults are just so much garbage, as usual.

Well Art-ster thanks for your much to do about nothing spill you little
toy combat programmer you ;-)

I didn't need your damn history on this my oh my. ;-)

Duane

 

[Duane Arnold]

Art, if you think you can out do me on the *RAG* game, you need to think
about that again. It will never happen.

Oh, and I'll expect some lap dog support for you real soon. <g>

Duane

 

[Duane Arnold]

Calling all Want-To-Be(s) Programmers for Toy Combat Programmer Duty! ;-)

LOL

Duane

 

[Duane Arnold]

Yes, calling all those Want-To-Be(s) Win 9'x using Bitching and Crying about
the Win NT based O/S Toy Combat Programmers that don't know *jack* about the
NT based O/S should be making a call to Linux and switch and have a soapbox
to stand on. <g>

Duane

 

[kurt wismer]

Yes, calling all those Want-To-Be(s) Win 9'x using Bitching and Crying about
the Win NT based O/S Toy Combat Programmers that don't know *jack* about the
NT based O/S should be making a call to Linux and switch and have a soapbox
to stand on. <g>

4 replies to 1 article... somebody likes to see himself type...

 

[Duane Arnold]

Yes, let the truth be known about old little toy Want-To-Be Combat
Programmer he just never dies, he just can't fade away nor can he move
forward. But instead he hangs around in AV NG(s) doing bitching and whining
and negative BS about this that and the other and reminiscing about the OLD
GLORY DAYS. Yes he's a real trooper the old little toy Want-To-Be Combat
Programmer he's such the old tropper. The old little toy Want-To-be Combat
Programmer Home waits for his arrival. ;-)

As always I am just looking out for him. I got his back. <g>

Duane

 

[Norman L. DeForest]

Calling all Want-To-Be(s) Programmers for Toy Combat Programmer Duty! ;-)

LOL

Duane

Good idea. An alt.comp.virus/alt.comp.anti-virus Core Wars tournament.

Here's a "REDCODE simulator":
ftp://ftp.funet.fi/pub/msdos/games/misc/vgacw10.zip

 

[Duane Arnold]

Good idea. An alt.comp.virus/alt.comp.anti-virus Core Wars tournament.

Here's a "REDCODE simulator":
ftp://ftp.funet.fi/pub/msdos/games/misc/vgacw10.zip

Well you should know that I am not going to click on that with *happy*
fingers on unknown things. ;-)

Duane

 

[null]

Good idea. An alt.comp.virus/alt.comp.anti-virus Core Wars tournament.

Here's a "REDCODE simulator":
ftp://ftp.funet.fi/pub/msdos/games/misc/vgacw10.zip

It's over Dippy's head. It has 14 different assembly language
instructions Dippy never got past 2.

Art

http://home.epix.net/~artnpeg

 

[null]

Well you should know that I am not going to click on that with *happy*
fingers on unknown things. ;-)

Duane

And if you take a hit with your NT based OS you're really screwed,
right Dippy?

Art

http://home.epix.net/~artnpeg