Movie Maker expert joins The DV Show

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Graham Hughes

Well we all know you had a job and got paid for it, you tell us often
enough, so what's wrong with PJ having a job and getting paid for it? I
shouldn't think there are that many on state benefit who sit here and answer
questions....

More importantly.
I'd be interested to know under whose control I am, please tell me.

--
Graham Hughes
MVP Digital Media
www.myvideoproblems.co.uk
www.dvds2treasure.com
www.simplydv.com
 
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John Kelly

Well we all know you had a job and got paid for it, you tell us often
enough, so what's wrong with PJ having a job and getting paid for it? I

Do please show us where I last mentioned and how many timews this year I
have mentioned that I have a job that I was paid for...If you can't then
simply shut up.
shouldn't think there are that many on state benefit who sit here and
answer questions....

Who are you refering to here then Hmmmmm??? Casting around are we hoping
to fish out some little morsel...Hughes, you are as you have always been,
CONTROLLED
More importantly.
I'd be interested to know under whose control I am, please tell me.

Ah Ha! This sounds just like that other idiot..."I Don't understand,
please tell me" Nice try.

The Liar papajohn, who is anything other than an EXPERT in database
management Tells Lies about how Important he is, He tells Lies about his
range of experience, he tells lies about his involvement, he presents facts
to support those lies only to have them prove the exact opposite...ergo he
knows as nuch about databases as my dog does.... He puts information on his
website that he cannot support because he has not got a clue about
computers. In addition he does not have a clue about the basic tools of
Windows (Any Version) and has amply demonstrated that in this
newsgroup....He is a fool with a slick tongue whos only weapon are the
idiots that support him YOU...but now you have chosen to finally come off
the fence, WHY??? Are you going to start charging for a service you are
supposed to give willingly????

Oh hang on, I see, you mean that you are on State Benefits....does the
benefit system know that you are supporting another in their endevour to
earn money??? Hmmmm???

Your best bet is to shut up and hope nobody else starts to notice you.
Your previous appearance of having a sense of good choices just went out the
window, perhaps with your state benefits....a really odd thing for an MVP to
mention in a Microsoft newsgroup.....seems the already low standards in here
have slipped even further.....

Have a nice day papajohn lover
 
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Al Stu

Nothing wrong with anybody having a job and getting paid for it. In fact
I'd encourage it. But for an MS-MVP to use MS NG's for the purpose of
marketing their own business flys in the face of what NG are. Especially
when they plagiarize what others post in the NG's for that purpose as well.
 
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Graham Hughes

So you do go out at 9 and come back at 5, work for no pay, what a great man
you are, I bow down to you dear Sir..........you may have of course be
retired, but you would have gone out and had a paid job, or you could just
sit at home collecting all the taxes people like papajohn pay when he earns
money off his site, which if he didn't earn and didn't pay, you'd be lucky
to get your handouts.......... or you may be of school age, which when you
come to earning a living you'll find it a different world.

--
Graham Hughes
MVP Digital Media
www.myvideoproblems.co.uk
www.dvds2treasure.com
www.simplydv.com
 
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Graham Hughes

The big problem with the arguement is, people like Papajohn have their
web-sites, helping people for free, answer questions on the newsgroups,
charging for services etc.....
Then along come MS, and make you an MVP, Oooops, you have to close your
web-site down and stop earning money because you've been made an MVP, the
reason you were made an MVP was because this was what you
did???????????????????
I don't see Papajohn making anyone buy any goods, services etc, they can
visit the site and use hundreds of pages for free, and if they want a little
extra then they can pay for it, but it's up to them, it's quite clear what
is free and what isn't.
If his first page said pay me $5 to enter I'd agree with you, but I'm afraid
we are always going to disagree on this one.

Graham

--
Graham Hughes
MVP Digital Media
www.myvideoproblems.co.uk
www.dvds2treasure.com
www.simplydv.com
 
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John Kelly

An interesting change in chronology...only an MVP could make...If you are
going to make wild flourishes, do at least try to base them on
facts...better still shut up, people had more respect for you before you
opened that mouth of yours.

This reply was created because another MVP (lol) has started telling lies.

John Kely
www.the-kellys.org

Liars, Instant Experts and those who support them = ZERO
 
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John Kelly

Derrrrr.....Wow, the Associate Liar Speaks (ALS)

Now then Eany Meany Miney Mow Who has Graham Hughes under Tow.....Derrrrrr

What A Plonker

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

John Kelly
www.the-kellys.org

ALS + Instant Expert + PJ = ZERO
 
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John Kelly

Sorry, Not able to hang around for your next bit of bateing (FOOL) I have to
go....I will be back in the near future though to see how the ALS is getting
on

John Kelly
www.the-kellys.org

ALS LOL
 
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Graham Hughes

John,
Unfortunately you are not answering the question.
YOU said I was under somebodies control, a simple question by myself was
asking whose control that was.
Now if you know of a person or company or whatever and have facts to back up
this allegation I'm willing to hear them.

Or are we at the point again, when asked for specific information to back up
your statements you just stop responding and move on.

Just like the last time, when proven that you were quite wrong in your
allegations against me, you just stopped replying, not even a sorry I got it
wrong....... funny from a man who spends most of his time bringing up the
fact theother people make a wrong comment or two.

I wonder how you'd like it if people stared bringing up all the wrong posts
you've made each and every time you made a reply and started calling you a
liar?

And whats with all this name calling, an educated man such as yourself
should surely be able to make constructive posts, this one is reminisant of
a five year old.

So John, do we get this proof?

Graham

--
Graham Hughes
MVP Digital Media
www.myvideoproblems.co.uk
www.dvds2treasure.com
www.simplydv.com
 
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Graham Hughes

OK John,
Facts.
Rehan.
Has a web-site, made and charged for goods.
He was made an MVP this year.

Now do I get an apology from you, I doubt it, as I'm still waiting from the
last time I showed you that the statements you made about me were wrong. I
have not made any wild flourishes, there has been no chronological change, I
have not started telling lies,

So Apologise please.

Graham

--
Graham Hughes
MVP Digital Media
www.myvideoproblems.co.uk
www.dvds2treasure.com
www.simplydv.com
 
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John Kelly

Hughes you are a complete fool....


Graham Hughes said:
John,
Unfortunately you are not answering the question.
YOU said I was under somebodies control, a simple question by myself was
asking whose control that was.
Now if you know of a person or company or whatever and have facts to back
up this allegation I'm willing to hear them.

Or are we at the point again, when asked for specific information to back
up your statements you just stop responding and move on.

Just like the last time, when proven that you were quite wrong in your
allegations against me, you just stopped replying, not even a sorry I got
it wrong....... funny from a man who spends most of his time bringing up
the fact theother people make a wrong comment or two.

I wonder how you'd like it if people stared bringing up all the wrong
posts you've made each and every time you made a reply and started calling
you a liar?

And whats with all this name calling, an educated man such as yourself
should surely be able to make constructive posts, this one is reminisant
of a five year old.

So John, do we get this proof?

Graham

--
Graham Hughes
MVP Digital Media
www.myvideoproblems.co.uk
www.dvds2treasure.com
www.simplydv.com
 
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John Kelly

The following is a reply to an MVP who has required an answer to his
remarks....Microsoft please note that this is yet another of papajohns pals
stiring up as much muck as possible

mr hughes....Show us all where you have used the word rehan in the following

The big problem with the arguement is, people like Papajohn have their
web-sites, helping people for free, answer questions on the newsgroups,
charging for services etc.....
Then along come MS, and make you an MVP, Oooops, you have to close your
web-site down and stop earning money because you've been made an MVP, the
reason you were made an MVP was because this was what you
did???????????????????
I don't see Papajohn making anyone buy any goods, services etc, they can
visit the site and use hundreds of pages for free, and if they want a little
extra then they can pay for it, but it's up to them, it's quite clear what
is free and what isn't.
If his first page said pay me $5 to enter I'd agree with you, but I'm afraid
we are always going to disagree on this one.

You are a yes man, you are telling lies and to get out of that you are now
telling more lies by way of suggesting you were talking about the instant
expert called rehan...a person who knows an awfull lot about COM objects,
how to make himself look like a pratt together with a whole bunch of other
things.....16:9 ratio was a scream...remember.

So Mr Liar...where does it say REHAN in the above text. Do you want me to
outline the glories of REHAN...how the only way he could stand up to an
argument was to go fetch friends from mvps (a clear indication that his only
intent was to start a flame war again)...would you like me to talk about his
tutoring by a number of others so that he could rise to the dissy depths of
mvp? Personaly, I think its absolutely marvelous that Microsoft made him an
MVP....you see I had no idea how good you were, Its no good using papajohn
as a measure because he is forever telling lies, so that was no good...but
you, you used to say as little as possible....now I know why...if rehan
qualifies as an mvp, remembering what a complete lack of knowledge he posses
of his own accord, where does that leave you???? My belief that the MVP
system is largely a waste of time is confirmed. The true experts, some of
which are MVP's, are those who give advice without the need to tell Lies or
come out with expressions like "Lucked Out"...one of PJ's favourite remarks
when he is again shown to be wrong

To continue...do you really want me to reply to every grandious sweeping
over bloated self opinionated "YES MAN" comment from you ???? If yes, do
please continue making prevocative statements that demand a response, I will
be only to happy to grant what an MVP wants in a Microsoft newsgroup.

Mr Hughes, when I have something to apologies for I will do so. Allow me to
repeat, You are a fool, and their is growing support for that belief. You
are a yes man who has involved himself in a discussion about the LIAR
papajohn. If you do not like the replies you are gettiong can I suggest once
more that you SHUT UP.

The underlying remarks from many pewople of whom only a few post their
comments in here is that Papajohn is a less than desirable person with an
eye for the main chance and who has since he started his website and
AFTERWARDS become an MVP (lol) started charging for the very advice he is
supposed to give FREE...and, it has been demonstrated on many occasions that
he is a LIAR...it has also been demonstrated that he then told further LIES
to try and convince everyone that his first LIES were in fact the
truth....its so over the top its funny....and evcery time you try to defend
him you can expect to get the type of reply you have been getting....

So TOUGH Mr hughes...and as I said, you too have now become a
LIAR...Papajohn does NOT help people for free, he charges, Papajohn steels
the help given by others and relishes making it known that he has put that
advice on his website and not given any acknowledgement of its true
origin....on top of that he has admitted a number of times that he does not
have a single clue about whether the advice is any good or not and on at
least one occasion told the person suffering from the results of that advice
the equivelant of "Tough Luck Pal"

So, go on and defend him as much as you like, you have already taken the
first step towards guilty by association...you were doing so much better
when you kept your mouth shut..such a pity.

John Kelly
www.the-kellys.org

Will always answer an MVP's questions, well you have to don't you...after
all, they ARE the Professionals LOL
 
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Al Stu

Your analogy is flawed. Even before becoming an MVP he should not have been
using the MS-NG's to market his business, and MS should not have allowed it
either. That he was should have been cause for MS not to make him an MVP in
the first place.
In the second place I've never said he should shut down his business, just
not use the MS-NG's to market his business, and certainly not plagiarize
content posted in MS-NG's.

Why do you suppose it is when he sends someone to his web site he tells them
to go to section a > section b > section c > ... rather than posting a URL
directly to the specific content? MARKETING

If some major corporation were in here doing the same thing everyone would
be up in arms about it, and I dare say MS would not allow it.
 
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Al Stu

There you go assuming again.

Graham Hughes said:
So you do go out at 9 and come back at 5, work for no pay, what a great
man you are, I bow down to you dear Sir..........you may have of course be
retired, but you would have gone out and had a paid job, or you could just
sit at home collecting all the taxes people like papajohn pay when he
earns money off his site, which if he didn't earn and didn't pay, you'd be
lucky to get your handouts.......... or you may be of school age, which
when you come to earning a living you'll find it a different world.

--
Graham Hughes
MVP Digital Media
www.myvideoproblems.co.uk
www.dvds2treasure.com
www.simplydv.com
 

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