Messages stuck outbox-WMUtil is not clearing outbox. Error message

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Guest

I downloaded the program WMUtil but when I click on Clear Outbox it gives an
error.
"Unable to access database" System did not find exception: Unable to load
DLL... Can you help me? I need to work and send email. I am stuck!!!!! I
clicked on the other buttoms Compact and Repair Database but it didn't make a
difference.

Enjoy Life!!!
 
G

Guest

I can't fix mine either. Now what. This is a new cmputer and a pain in
the..................
Confused
 
J

Julian

confused said:
I can't fix mine either. Now what. This is a new cmputer and a pain in
the..................
Confused

Are you sure you downloaded and unzipped it properly
and ran it from the folder that includes the scxout.dll ?
 
G

Guest

I have no idea what all that means.

Julian said:
Are you sure you downloaded and unzipped it properly
and ran it from the folder that includes the scxout.dll ?
 
J

Julian

confused said:
I have no idea what all that means.

OK... from the top.

Download this utility and follow the instructions.
http://www.oehelp.com/WMUtil/Default.aspx

note...

Download - verb copy (data) from one computer system to another or to a
disk.
This - pronoun 1. (used to indicate a person, thing, idea, state, event,
time, remark, etc., as present, near, just mentioned or pointed out,
supposed to be understood, or by way of emphasis): This is my coat.
Utility - noun. something useful; a useful thing
And - conjunction 1. (used to connect grammatically coordinate words,
phrases, or clauses) along or together with; as well as; in addition to;
besides; also; moreover: pens and pencils.
Follow - verb (used with object) to conform to, comply with, or act in
accordance with; obey: to follow orders; to follow advice.
Instructions - noun, orders or directions: The instructions are on the back
of the box.
 
G

Guest

Julian said:
Are you sure you downloaded and unzipped it properly
and ran it from the folder that includes the scxout.dll ?

I am having the same problem as confused and mamasita (there are files I
can't delete from the outbox in Microsoft Mail).

I have downloaded, unzipped and run the file you mentioned, running the
executable file from the same directory as scxout.dll, the dynamic link
library.

I still can't remove that one file from my outbox after having used the
wmutil utility to supposedly clear the files.

Why on earth didn't Microsoft just stick with Outlook Express, which I have
used for years with no trouble?

If it was any other OS manufacturer, they'd be laughed out of business for
shipping crap like this. I was inflicted with Microsoft Mail as part of the
standard Vista Home Premium OS which came with my new Dell laptop.

You can bet whatever parts of your anatomy are dearest to you that I'm going
to mention this problem to Dell. This situation passed ridiculous a long
time ago.

Why can't Microsoft ship working software?
 
J

Julian

coonass said:
I am having the same problem as confused and mamasita (there are files I
can't delete from the outbox in Microsoft Mail).

There's no such thing as "Microsoft Mail."
I have downloaded, unzipped and run the file you mentioned, running the
executable file from the same directory as scxout.dll, the dynamic link
library.
I still can't remove that one file from my outbox after having used the
wmutil utility to supposedly clear the files.

Why not?
Help us help you by describing the symptoms.
What error message do you get?
Why on earth didn't Microsoft just stick with Outlook Express, which I
have
used for years with no trouble?

I don't know. Have you asked them?
If it was any other OS manufacturer, they'd be laughed out of business for
shipping crap like this. I was inflicted with Microsoft Mail as part of
the
standard Vista Home Premium OS which came with my new Dell laptop.

Your use of inaccurate terms such as "Microsoft Mail" tends to undermine
any confidence in any other of your statements.
You can bet whatever parts of your anatomy are dearest to you that I'm
going
to mention this problem to Dell. This situation passed ridiculous a long
time ago.

You are not helping anyone by ranting at innocent bystanders.
Why can't Microsoft ship working software?

Have you ever written software?

Note.
Your persistent use of inaccuracies such as "Microsoft Mail"
show just how easy it is to ship piss poor code.
 
G

Guest

Julian said:
There's no such thing as "Microsoft Mail."

Pardon me. "Windows Mail." I feel all better about my Outbox being frozen
now that I've been properly admonished.
Why not?
Help us help you by describing the symptoms.
What error message do you get?

That was precisely the problem - I didn't get an error message. Just the
same old same old.

That last file in the Outbox finally cleared, I assume that the utility
cleared it.
I don't know. Have you asked them?

I just started having the problem today.
Your use of inaccurate terms such as "Microsoft Mail" tends to undermine
any confidence in any other of your statements.

And your nitpicking attitude undermines my confidence in you. Go "help"
someone else.
You are not helping anyone by ranting at innocent bystanders.


Have you ever written software?

Yes, actually. For pay and everything. In the pharmaceitical industry,
where the sort of malfunctions I've been coping from "Windows Mail" with
would have been cause for an FDA investigation, fines and possible withdrawal
of marketing authorization of whatever product whose safety and efficacy my
code was documenting,

We have this thing in the Pharma information processing community known as
"peer review and validation prior to code lock."

Not ranting at you specifically, but MS ought to either try it or if they do
use such a process (not really evident from the sort of errors MS is famous
for until about "Service Pack 2" or so of their OSes) refine their checklists
to trap and isolate errors of the sort which require third-party tools to
correct a fundamental operating deficiency which corrupts user databases and
causes loss and/or corruption of stored data.

Their current process undermines confidence in their product and makes it
completely understandable why corporate IS managers want to wait until at
least the first Service Pack release before inflicting Vista on their
company's decision support process and other applications for new OSes.
Note.
Your persistent use of inaccuracies such as "Microsoft Mail"
show just how easy it is to ship piss poor code.

It does no such thing.

"Shipping piss poor code," as you put it - and I won't dispute the accuracy
of the term - shows just how deficient Microsoft's internal policies for
quality control are.

It's a sign of vast indifference to the customer that Microsoft leaves
correction of fundamental problems such as loss of data in an Email program
to third parties rather than undertaking the correction itself.

It's ironic that Microsoft is threatening to sue the open-source community
for patent infringements (signifying that the open source community is
swiping important ideas from Redmond) on one hand and adopting that
commuity's methods for maintaining its code on the other.
 
G

Guest

Thank you, Mr. VanderMolen! I appreciate the alternative to the current
process for correction of the Outbox problem.

Is there any chance that the Outbox problem in Windows Mail is fixed in SP1?
 
J

Julian

coonass said:
Pardon me. "Windows Mail." I feel all better about my Outbox being
frozen
now that I've been properly admonished.

There are an awful lot of people who come to these boards claiming
to have tried what they have not tried, read what they have not read, etc.
and they are usually identified by such errors in nomenclature.
That was precisely the problem - I didn't get an error message. Just the
same old same old.

That last file in the Outbox finally cleared, I assume that the utility
cleared it.


That a warning against impatience should be included in the
guidelines has been duly noted.
 
J

Julian

coonass said:
Thank you, Mr. VanderMolen! I appreciate the alternative to the current
process for correction of the Outbox problem.

Is there any chance that the Outbox problem in Windows Mail is fixed in
SP1?

There is little evidence that any issues with WM will be addressed in SP1
and some evidence that it is redundant with all M$ email resources being
put into its "replacement" Windows Live Mail.
http://get.live.com/betas/maildesktop_betas

I don't hesitate to say that Gary would urge you to try it.
It's been out for a month now and is proving to be robust
and the issues people have with it tend towards the
cosmetic. It automatically adopts WM settings and data
on install.

M$ reps actively participate in debating the direction the
product will take and seem open to user input!!!!!
Check newsgroup...

microsoft.public.windows.live.mail
 
G

Guest

Julian said:
There is little evidence that any issues with WM will be addressed in SP1
and some evidence that it is redundant with all M$ email resources being
put into its "replacement" Windows Live Mail.
http://get.live.com/betas/maildesktop_betas

I don't hesitate to say that Gary would urge you to try it.
It's been out for a month now and is proving to be robust
and the issues people have with it tend towards the
cosmetic. It automatically adopts WM settings and data
on install.

M$ reps actively participate in debating the direction the
product will take and seem open to user input!!!!!
Check newsgroup...

Thank you.
 
G

Guest

Hi Julian,
I think I did all the right things. When I try to run it from the scxout
(which is DLL File) it tells me to choose wich program to run it with,
apparently I don't have the required one, so I have to choose from the
avaiable ones, and I have no idea which one to choose. I chose internet
explorer just to choose something, but it doesn't run it. Also scxout doens't
have .dll next to it. Does it matter? Should I delete and start over? Please
use simple languafe because as you can tell I don't know much about this.
Thanks
 
J

Julian

Mamasita said:
Hi Julian,
I think I did all the right things. When I try to run it from the scxout
(which is DLL File) it tells me to choose wich program to run it with,
apparently I don't have the required one, so I have to choose from the
avaiable ones, and I have no idea which one to choose. I chose internet
explorer just to choose something, but it doesn't run it. Also scxout
doens't
have .dll next to it. Does it matter? Should I delete and start over?
Please
use simple languafe because as you can tell I don't know much about this.
Thanks

I don't know what you mean by...
"When I try to run it from the scxout"

When you download and unzip wmutil you should get two two files.
1. scxout.dll
2. wmutil.exe

Make sure they are both in the same folder and then click
on wmutil.exe to execute.

Download the utility again and have another go.
 
G

Guest

I had the same problem, and microsoft sent me info on how to fix it, and it
worked just fine. The only mistake I made in the process was not "saving" my
files, but after I put the info back in, everything was fine. Go to
(e-mail address removed) I have an "e" machine with windows e mail.
It may work on any computer, I don't know. I am not the brightest computer
operator in the world. Norman
 
G

Gary VanderMolen

I would expect that when Service Pack 1 for Vista is released, it will
either contain a bunch of patches for Windows Mail, or else it will
replace WM with the finished (final) version of Windows Live Mail.

Gary VanderMolen
 

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