Memory P4PE P4 2.4

[Gray]

I just got everything running right after the messup with ATI drivers awhile
back : ( Now I started getting other problems. A friend said sounded like
memory going bad. I ran memtest and it showed a WHOLE bunch of errors!
So sounds like I need new memory, My question is my friend just bought 2
sticks of crucial 1gig PC2100 memory. I am currently running 512 PC2700
memory (I'm real bad at memory stuff) Isn't PC2100 slower then PC2700?
His MB for some reason will not run with both chips so he is willing to sell
me the second one for $100
Would I be better off just getting more PC2700?
I can't seem to find my darn MB manual and can't seem to find a page on Asus
site about memory for the P4PE, to see if PC2100 will even work.
The system right now is running at 533 setting I don't realy want to slow it
down. By putting a slower memory or changing settings if I don't have to.
System is:
P4PE 1006 BIOS
Intel P4 2.4 gig CPU
450W power supply

Thanks for any info !

 

[Martin]

I just got everything running right after the messup with ATI drivers
awhile back : ( Now I started getting other problems. A friend said
sounded like memory going bad. I ran memtest and it showed a WHOLE
bunch of errors! So sounds like I need new memory, My question is my
friend just bought 2 sticks of crucial 1gig PC2100 memory. I am
currently running 512 PC2700 memory (I'm real bad at memory stuff)
Isn't PC2100 slower then PC2700? His MB for some reason will not run
with both chips so he is willing to sell me the second one for $100
Would I be better off just getting more PC2700?

You could probably get 1Gb PC2700, or better yet, PC3200 for not much more
than $100. Check out www.crucial.com. You can enter details of your mobo,
and it will give a list of RAM you can buy which will work. I bought 1Gb of
PC3200 for my P4PE from Crucial in the UK, and that wasn't much more than
£100 (in rip-off Briatin).

Yes, PC2100 is slower than PC2700 - do not waste $100. He's having a laugh.

Martin

 

[No One]

You could probably get 1Gb PC2700, or better yet, PC3200 for not much more
than $100. Check out www.crucial.com. You can enter details of your mobo,
and it will give a list of RAM you can buy which will work. I bought 1Gb of
PC3200 for my P4PE from Crucial in the UK, and that wasn't much more than
£100 (in rip-off Briatin).

Yes, PC2100 is slower than PC2700 - do not waste $100. He's having a laugh.

Martin

Be extremely careful using Crucial's web site for selecting memory for
this motherbord. I made the mistake of ordering memory for this
motherboard before I had received the motherboard from the dealer. Well
Crucial failed to tell you that in order to use all three slots on this
motherboard one had to order special memory. Even their sales reps were
unaware. Of course their tech people were but who talks to techs when
ordering memory. Kingston's web site clearly advises you about the
problem. So I ordered 3 x 512MB sticks and discovered the problem when I
tried to boot the machine. I argued and argued with Crucial and they
wouldn't admit any responsibility for not indicating on the web site. I
wound up having to ship the stick back to Curcial via FedEx on my own.

A 1 GB stick of memory was over $700 2 years ago.

 

[DaveW]

The PC2100 will slowww your system down. Avoid your friend's RAM, and
invest in PC2700 RAM. It's not that expensive now.

 

[Paul]

Be extremely careful using Crucial's web site for selecting memory for
this motherbord. I made the mistake of ordering memory for this
motherboard before I had received the motherboard from the dealer. Well
Crucial failed to tell you that in order to use all three slots on this
motherboard one had to order special memory. Even their sales reps were
unaware. Of course their tech people were but who talks to techs when
ordering memory. Kingston's web site clearly advises you about the
problem. So I ordered 3 x 512MB sticks and discovered the problem when I
tried to boot the machine. I argued and argued with Crucial and they
wouldn't admit any responsibility for not indicating on the web site. I
wound up having to ship the stick back to Curcial via FedEx on my own.

A 1 GB stick of memory was over $700 2 years ago.

At the bottom of the Crucial web page, it says;

http://www.crucial.com/store/listparts.asp?model=P4PE&DetailMB=Y&cat=RAM

"Important information about your system
Although it is physically possible to install more memory, the
system will only recognize the maximum listed. Installing more
memory may cause major problems. Consult the system's manufacturer
for more information. All Intel 845 series chipsets support a maximum
of 4 banks of memory regardless of the number of memory sockets."

Personally, I would not buy a 1GB module, without knowing a whole lot
about its construction. No-name modules can be using the "stacked"
memories, and very few desktop motherboards can drive them properly.
To make a module that will work, it should use (16) 64Mx8 chips,
not the 128Mx4 or other arrangements you might find on other modules.
Vendors charge a lot more for the 64Mx8 chips, so a low price is a dead
giveaway that you are getting the wrong module.

A P4PE can economically use 2 x 512MB double sided modules. Getting
2 x 1GB proper modules would cost a fortune. If you want to have more
memory than that, without a lot of hassle, start with a P4P800/P4C800
family motherboard. They have four sockets and they all work.

HTH,
Paul

 

[Gray]

Thanks for all the info!
Sounds like PC2700 is the way to go. Now I have a couple more questions : p
I'm running Win XP and play a few games but mostly this machine is used to
edit photos and
large text files, would going to 1gig memory help speeds of operating system
and programs?
Or would going from 512k to 1gig not be worth the money?
Also if I can swing it I'm going to try and upgrade this P4 2.4 to a 3.0 in
the next couple months
would just getting PC3200 mem now be the smarter way to go?
After the upgrade I plan on useing the old parts in my wifes P4PE so the
parts will not go to waste.
Hopefuly prices will go down a bit more by the time I can upgrade. For right
now though I need to get
memory for my PC as the wife is already calling me a computer hog LOL ! : )
Thanks again for all the replys!

 

[Martin]

Thanks for all the info!
Sounds like PC2700 is the way to go. Now I have a couple more
questions : p I'm running Win XP and play a few games but mostly this
machine is used to edit photos and
large text files, would going to 1gig memory help speeds of operating
system and programs?
Or would going from 512k to 1gig not be worth the money?
Also if I can swing it I'm going to try and upgrade this P4 2.4 to a
3.0 in the next couple months
would just getting PC3200 mem now be the smarter way to go?

Yes, I believe it would. Check the prices. In the UK site of Crucial at
least, there is very little difference in price between PC2700 and PC3200
RAM.

May I respectively suggest that instead of buying a P4 3.0, you buy two 512
Mb sticks of PC3200 RAM, go into your BIOS and crank the P4 2.4 you have up
to 2.8 or 2.9?You can do this so easily with the P4PE and a P4 2.4 it's not
funny. You will not even need any special cooling. You might just get away
with it with the PC2700 memory, but I found I got some instability so I sold
my PC2700 and bought some PC3200. I've tested it with a couple of stressing
utilities and it's perfect.

Good luck, and if you need any help overclocking the p4 2.4, just post back
here.

Regards

Martin

 

[Jim Sherman]

mostly this machine is used to
edit photos

I don't know what you use but Photoshop is a memory eater big time.
The more you have the better. Also, make damn sure the sticks of
memory are exactly the same make, model and rev. That board is a real
PITA about that. I had 4 512MB PC2700 sticks, 2 Kingston, 2 Crucial
because I was building a system for a buddy - all the same specs.
They'd both run in matched pairs with no errors, and wouldn't boot
half and half. Go figure. With the cold boot problems and other
hassles, I finally bagged the thing and am now quite happily running a
K8V Deluxe with a 3400+. No more 58C while running SETI, I now run at
45C and get stuff done in about 1/2 to 2/3 the time. Good luck.

Jim


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