manually cleaning a printhead

F

frank

Taliesyn said:
One more time for the pretending-to-be-deaf ... I called Canon to ask
them who made their brand inks and they said they couldn't disclose that
information. Who exactly makes each "brand" of ink is not information
given to ANYONE - not even Measekite. So he has no idea either. Case
closed.

-Taliesyn

Well T, meashershithead is both deaf and dumb! He is a ****wit moron of
an idiot.
He knows nothing about ink, printers or paper.
Plus he's psychotic liar.
Frank
 
Z

zakezuke

ur case is closed. nobody can reason with you. time to grow up. why
don't you admit real good that you are a school kid on an allowance.
you are not learning very well.

A company who designs and engineers a product and puts their name on it
and sells it in all venues is the mfg/formulator regardless if the
actual productionis outsourced. I know you have not had any courses in
economics, marketing, salesmanship or any advance business because they
are not taught in high school.

Why don;t you do me a favor and put me in your delete file.

Actually... this stuff is covered in highschool in the states and a few
other countries.
http://www.deca.org/hsd.html
While there are more specalized classes... and this is a combo
elective/club... this is highschool level stuff.

Measekite, you may also wish to read
http://www.amazon.com/Toyota-Way-Ma...=pd_bbs_1/102-1045727-1943313?ie=UTF8&s=books

If you went to Stanford as you claim, and have a MiB... odds are you
know Jim Matheson... and odds are you already read this book.

But this is where Measekite's logic fails upon it self. Taliesyn
points out that we have no clue if canon them selves make the ink, or
even designed it, and Measekite comes back with the "everyone does
this" routine. Well, not everyone does, but that's not the point. The
point is Canon sells products... among which are printers and ink. The
printers are nothing to sneeze at and the ink, well, the ink is rather
low on the gasfastness front, it not so great on the lightfast front
either. But we don't know canon designed the ink, or if they designed
the ink for the printer or the printer for the ink. They won't
disclose. There is more disclosure with aftermarket inks like Image
Specalists, Formulabs, Lyson, and others because they "make" the ink.
We KNOW who makes it and we can buy either with the offical label or in
plain bottles.
 
F

frank

zakezuke said:
Actually... this stuff is covered in highschool in the states and a few
other countries.
http://www.deca.org/hsd.html
While there are more specalized classes... and this is a combo
elective/club... this is highschool level stuff.

Measekite, you may also wish to read
http://www.amazon.com/Toyota-Way-Ma...=pd_bbs_1/102-1045727-1943313?ie=UTF8&s=books

If you went to Stanford as you claim, and have a MiB... odds are you
know Jim Matheson... and odds are you already read this book.

But this is where Measekite's logic fails upon it self. Taliesyn
points out that we have no clue if canon them selves make the ink, or
even designed it, and Measekite comes back with the "everyone does
this" routine. Well, not everyone does, but that's not the point. The
point is Canon sells products... among which are printers and ink. The
printers are nothing to sneeze at and the ink, well, the ink is rather
low on the gasfastness front, it not so great on the lightfast front
either. But we don't know canon designed the ink, or if they designed
the ink for the printer or the printer for the ink. They won't
disclose. There is more disclosure with aftermarket inks like Image
Specalists, Formulabs, Lyson, and others because they "make" the ink.
We KNOW who makes it and we can buy either with the offical label or in
plain bottles.

Well Z, a concise, exact explanation that is obviously far to
complicated for meashershithead to ever come close to understanding.
Nice try though and thanks, good info.
Frank
 
S

snydley

I rececived a new printhead that I ordered earlier this week, installed it,
and it's printing like brand new now! No missing columns on the test pages
anymore. Thanks everyone for all your help through this!!!!
Snyde
 
O

Olin K. McDaniel

On Thu, 28 Sep 2006 21:04:24 GMT, "snydley"


(Much stuff snipped here)
Olin,
You say that you refill "to yout heart's content". This is one area I'm not
too sure of. Right from the beginning with this printer I never bought Canon
ink. I first started refilling the cartridges with refill kits for Walmart,
then I found it was as cheap to buy cartridges on eBay and not have to mess
with the refilling. I think that could be what caused the problems with this
printer in the first place. I read on here about someone buying
"HobbyColors" ink refill kits. What do you use? I don't know WHAT kind of
refills or cartridges to use, but I don't want to make the mistake I did
last time.

Thanks,
Snyde
Snyde,
After the 3 years experience with this Canon printer (and I want to
emphasize, the i950 is the only Canon printer I've got any personal
experience with) - there are a few facts I can add for clarity.

When I bought the printer new, it came with all 6 of the cartridges
being Canon and in sealed packages. Over the 3 year period, I
refilled those Canon brand cartridges with only M.I.S. inks, no other
type or brand of ink. This worked well for many, many refills, but
eventually the cartridges had to be replaced. I then bought some
empty 3rd party cartridges, also from M.I.S., and did not have such
good luck with them. So, I bought new Canon cartridges, only as
needed, and refilled these - again many times each. Finally, after
several thousand 8X10 color photographs, the print head began failing
and would not respond to any form of cleaning that I tried. So, I
reluctantly accepted that and bought a new printhead, along with a
full set of 6 new Canon cartridges. Since then, several of these have
by now been refilled, and all is still working beautifully. That's my
story, and I cannot comment on other inks, etc. As a former chemical
company researcher, I know how to keep accurate data and interpret it
to draw logical conclusions therefrom. Too bad our "shill" ( or
another word starting with the same letters) can't support his
position with valid data.

Olin
 
O

Olin K. McDaniel

I rececived a new printhead that I ordered earlier this week, installed it,
and it's printing like brand new now! No missing columns on the test pages
anymore. Thanks everyone for all your help through this!!!!
Snyde

Congratulations. Glad to hear another with the same good results I
obtained. As I've stated previously, I also wasted much time before
reaching the decision to retire the printhead.
Olin
 
S

snydley

Olin K. McDaniel said:
On Thu, 28 Sep 2006 21:04:24 GMT, "snydley"


(Much stuff snipped here)
Snyde,
After the 3 years experience with this Canon printer (and I want to
emphasize, the i950 is the only Canon printer I've got any personal
experience with) - there are a few facts I can add for clarity.

When I bought the printer new, it came with all 6 of the cartridges
being Canon and in sealed packages. Over the 3 year period, I
refilled those Canon brand cartridges with only M.I.S. inks, no other
type or brand of ink. This worked well for many, many refills, but
eventually the cartridges had to be replaced. I then bought some
empty 3rd party cartridges, also from M.I.S., and did not have such
good luck with them. So, I bought new Canon cartridges, only as
needed, and refilled these - again many times each. Finally, after
several thousand 8X10 color photographs, the print head began failing
and would not respond to any form of cleaning that I tried. So, I
reluctantly accepted that and bought a new printhead, along with a
full set of 6 new Canon cartridges. Since then, several of these have
by now been refilled, and all is still working beautifully. That's my
story, and I cannot comment on other inks, etc. As a former chemical
company researcher, I know how to keep accurate data and interpret it
to draw logical conclusions therefrom. Too bad our "shill" ( or
another word starting with the same letters) can't support his
position with valid data.

Olin
Hi Olin,
Sounds real good. I checked the inksupply.com site out and I think I'll
order a kit and try it out. I'll d it like you did, refilling the cartridges
I have first. Unfortunetaly I don't have the original Canon's anymore.
I don't do a lot of printing, but I don't want to screw this printer up
again if I can help it.
I hear what you're saying about the "shrill". I figured his game out from
the 1st message I read with his name on it.
What a meathead!
Thanks for all your help,
Snyde
 
B

Burt

Olin K. McDaniel said:
On Thu, 28 Sep 2006 21:04:24 GMT, "snydley"


(Much stuff snipped here)
Snyde,
After the 3 years experience with this Canon printer (and I want to
emphasize, the i950 is the only Canon printer I've got any personal
experience with) - there are a few facts I can add for clarity.

When I bought the printer new, it came with all 6 of the cartridges
being Canon and in sealed packages. Over the 3 year period, I
refilled those Canon brand cartridges with only M.I.S. inks, no other
type or brand of ink. This worked well for many, many refills, but
eventually the cartridges had to be replaced. I then bought some
empty 3rd party cartridges, also from M.I.S., and did not have such
good luck with them. So, I bought new Canon cartridges, only as
needed, and refilled these - again many times each. Finally, after
several thousand 8X10 color photographs, the print head began failing
and would not respond to any form of cleaning that I tried. So, I
reluctantly accepted that and bought a new printhead, along with a
full set of 6 new Canon cartridges. Since then, several of these have
by now been refilled, and all is still working beautifully. That's my
story, and I cannot comment on other inks, etc. As a former chemical
company researcher, I know how to keep accurate data and interpret it
to draw logical conclusions therefrom. Too bad our "shill" ( or
another word starting with the same letters) can't support his
position with valid data.

Olin

Olin - Go onto the Nifty-stuff forum and look up the thread on cleaning
Canon cartridges. Grandad35 posted a technique for backflushing the carts
that works just great. You are right that the best carts to refill are the
OEM Canon carts. They can be rejuvinated with a simple technique to work
like new again. Instead of spending $75 for a new set of carts you will
spend about $5 for parts from a hardware store and a little time and hot
water from the tap.
 
O

Olin K. McDaniel

Olin - Go onto the Nifty-stuff forum and look up the thread on cleaning
Canon cartridges. Grandad35 posted a technique for backflushing the carts
that works just great. You are right that the best carts to refill are the
OEM Canon carts. They can be rejuvinated with a simple technique to work
like new again. Instead of spending $75 for a new set of carts you will
spend about $5 for parts from a hardware store and a little time and hot
water from the tap.
Thanks Burt. I'll go check that out for future use when it arrives
(and most assuredly it will eventually arrive). However I could not
complain on the life of that original set, several of them accepted
refilling over 20 times before failing! Even the MIS people were
surprised, and sounded dubious, but I had records to prove it.

Olin
 

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