Make older programs run in Vista

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Kelly

I have a very old software program (TypeTwister 1.0) that has worked in every
version of Windows that I've had along the way ... until Vista.
When I double click the start up file, I receive the error message that the
program isn't compatible. When I right click on the .exe file, choose
properties and then compatibility, no matter which Windows version I choose,
I still receive the error message.
I love this program and don't want to give it up. It hasn't been
re-distributed since I bought it in 1995.
Any suggestions on how I can make this beloved program work in Vista, please?
kelly
 
S

Synapse Syndrome

Kelly said:
I have a very old software program (TypeTwister 1.0) that has worked in
every version of Windows that I've had along the way ... until Vista.
When I double click the start up file, I receive the error message that
the program isn't compatible. When I right click on the .exe file,
choose properties and then compatibility, no matter which Windows
version I choose, I still receive the error message.
I love this program and don't want to give it up. It hasn't been
re-distributed since I bought it in 1995.
Any suggestions on how I can make this beloved program work in Vista,
please? kelly

If you cannot get it to run using Compatibility Mode, you will be able to
run it by installing VirtualPC. You will then need to install an earlier
version of Windows, like Windows '95, '98, 2000, XP, which you have a retail
license form on the virtual machine that you create within VirtualPC. You
can then run TypeTwister on that.

From Googling TypeTwister, it appears to do what WordArt in MS Word does.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WordArt

You could consider using Word instead. If TypeTwister actually outputs
graphic files into the clipboard, like I assume it does, there are many web
graphics programs that can do this, with much more power and flexibility, no
doubt.

I have Adobe Fireworks, which is very good for this, but it is not cheap.
There are many others, including freeware, but that is the only one I am
familiar with.

ss.
 
K

Kelly

I tried to install Virtual PC but received an error message that I didn't
have one of the supported systems. Any idea what that means and/or what I
should do to get the right Virtual PC download?
Thanks
 
P

Poutnik

I tried to install Virtual PC but received an error message that I didn't
have one of the supported systems. Any idea what that means and/or what I
should do to get the right Virtual PC download?
Thanks
Not supprted does not equal not running on.
E.g. VPC is not supported in Vista Home Premium 64, but runs well.
 
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Synapse Syndrome

I tried to install Virtual PC but received an error message that I didn't
have one of the supported systems. Any idea what that means and/or what
I should do to get the right Virtual PC download?
Thanks

If you are using a home version of Vista, I think you are not licensed to
use VirtualPC. Ignore any such errors - as far as I am aware, it still runs
perfectly well. Say out loud: "kiss my ass, Steve Ballmer" as you install
it.

Be sure to install the 'Virtual Machine Additions' on the virtual Windows
'9x/2000/XP machine, once the OS is installed. It will allow you to drag
and drop files onto the VM's Desktop, maximise the screen, and other things.
You need to install it for best operation.

ss.
 
K

Kelly

1) Right clicking and trying to install as administrator made no difference.
I still got the same error message
2) I am VERY new to Vista. Can you please give me a link to Virtual PC so I
can learn about it, how to install it, how to operate it?
Thanks for all of your input.
kelly :)
 
B

Bruce Chambers

Kelly said:
I tried to install Virtual PC but received an error message that I didn't
have one of the supported systems. Any idea what that means and/or what I
should do to get the right Virtual PC download?
Thanks


Microsoft does not support the use of VirtualPC 2007 on Vista Home
editions, but several people have reported that it works. Your results
may vary.

Alternatively you could download Innotek's VirtualBox
(http://www.virtualbox.org/) and run WinXP and your legacy applications
within the virtual computer. It's free and works with Vista.


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K

Kelly

I guess this virtual machine stuff is too much for me. I don't understand it
(i.e. what it is, how it works). So ... I guess I'll just bid farewell to my
beloved software program.
Thank you all very much for your input and help!
kelly :)
 
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Synapse Syndrome

1) Right clicking and trying to install as administrator made no
difference. I still got the same error message
2) I am VERY new to Vista. Can you please give me a link to Virtual PC
so I can learn about it, how to install it, how to operate it?
Thanks for all of your input.


Here is the download link:

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...02-3199-48a3-afa2-2dc0b40a73b6&displaylang=en

Summary and information:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Virtual_PC

Look at the bottom of that page for links that may help you use it. It's
not that hard to figure out.

HTH

ss.
 
S

Steve Thackery

I guess this virtual machine stuff is too much for me. I don't understand
it
(i.e. what it is, how it works). So ... I guess I'll just bid farewell to
my
beloved software program.

Don't give up so easily. Microsoft Virtual PC 2007 is just a program, like
any other, that runs in Vista. You install it in the same way - nothing
hard about that.

The clever bit is what it does: it creates an imaginary, or virtual,
computer inside itself. The virtual computer has its own screen, hard disk,
BIOS, and so on.

These don't exist physically - they are emulated by Virtual PC 2007. You -
the operator - know they don't exist. But to a program running on this
virtual PC, the whole thing is indistinguishable from a real PC.

Just out of interest, the "screen" of this virtual PC is actually a normal
window from the operator's point of view. But it looks exactly like a
graphics card with medium resolution monitor from "inside" the virtual PC.

Similarly, the hard disk inside the virtual PC is actually implemented as a
file on your real hard disk. But from "inside" the virtual PC it looks
exactly like a real hard disk.

Your virtual PC will need a CD drive. There are two ways of providing that,
but the easiest is to "lend" one of your real CD drives to the virtual PC.

And so on.... you get the idea.

In fact, VPC 2007 will let you create any number of virtual PCs. For each
one you create, you must allocate a certain amount of memory, and decide on
how big its hard disk will be. After that there are various other settings
you can adjust, such as the screen resolution, and so on.

You can install a different operating system in each. So you can have a
virtual Windows 3.1 machine, a Windows 95 machine, a Windows XP machine, an
Ubuntu machine, and so on.

When you create your first virtual PC and start it, the "screen" will appear
and you'll see it going through a standard BIOS startup procedure.
Eventually it comes up with the "Insert Boot Media" message, indicating that
it can't find an operating system. In other words, it's exactly like
starting up a brand new PC that hasn't had an operating system installed
yet.

To install XP into your newly created virtual PC, you insert your XP
installation disk into the CD drive you've "lent" to it, and reboot the
virtual PC. After the BIOS has done its thing, it will find the XP disk and
begin the installation. An hour later you will have what looks rather like
a miracle: an XP computer running inside a Vista window.

You can then install any software you like into this computer, surf the net
with it, and so on.

I've left out some details, not least the "Virtual Machine Additions", which
greatly improve the integration between the virtual PC and Vista. But
that's for another day. Today I just wanted to give you an overview of what
a virtual machine is, and how easy it is to use one.

Finally, there are other virtual PC programs. I would recommend Sun
VirtualBox, which does everything VPC 2007 does, but also lets the virtual
PC see your USB ports (not supported in VPC 2007).

If you have an ounce of curiosity, and are willing to learn, then I urge you
to try VPC 2007. You'll be impressed!

SteveT
 

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