Looking up RAM - way to find computers it will work for?

F

friesian

I was here a few weeks ago and determined that the RAM I bought will
not work for my computer. The person who sold it to me advertised it as
desktop RAM, which I learned here to be incorrect.

I asked him what desktop he used it in, and he ignored me for 10 days
until I threatened to file a claim against him. He says he sold the
computer box, but still has the motherboard, but won't tell me what
kind of motherboard it is. He wants me to drive 2 hours each way to his
house and pay him for his time if I want to see it working ona
desktop. Obviously, that isn't going to happen. I am not going to pay
him more money.

Anyway, I have been trying to sell them for the past 3 weeks. I tried
posting that they were for servers, and no replies. I did get a couple
people responding to ask if they worked in laptops (they don't). So, I
have made a more generic ad and asked them to tell me their computer
model so that I can check to make sure it works.

But I was wondering. Is there a website where you can lug in the type
of memory and get a list of computers that it will work with? People
will not respond to my ad if they think it is unlikely to work with
their computer. But I cannot ethically sell it without telling them
what kind of memory it is. And I cannot afford to replace it until this
is sold. These 2 sticks of RAM were to upgrade my computer and my
nephew's computer. And my old RAM was going to upgrade my sister's
computer. It was supposed to be aupgrade for me and Christmas gifts for
2 others.

At this point, I have no way of selling them, and the seller isn't
going to cooperate with information to help me sell them or take them
back.

This is what I have:

Apacer DDR 1GB - 333 Mhz PC2700

That was the title of the ad. The subject included the term REG in it
which was the only sign that it was not normal memory. And the ad
listed it as desktop memory.
 
P

peter

The best you can do is look at the serial number of the RAM modules and
write it down.
Then go to the Apacer website and do a search on that number.You can even
try a google search using that part number.
peter
 
P

paulmd

I was here a few weeks ago and determined that the RAM I bought will
not work for my computer. The person who sold it to me advertised it as
desktop RAM, which I learned here to be incorrect.

I asked him what desktop he used it in, and he ignored me for 10 days
until I threatened to file a claim against him. He says he sold the
computer box, but still has the motherboard, but won't tell me what
kind of motherboard it is. He wants me to drive 2 hours each way to his
house and pay him for his time if I want to see it working ona
desktop. Obviously, that isn't going to happen. I am not going to pay
him more money.

Anyway, I have been trying to sell them for the past 3 weeks. I tried
posting that they were for servers, and no replies. I did get a couple
people responding to ask if they worked in laptops (they don't). So, I
have made a more generic ad and asked them to tell me their computer
model so that I can check to make sure it works.

But I was wondering. Is there a website where you can lug in the type
of memory and get a list of computers that it will work with? People
will not respond to my ad if they think it is unlikely to work with
their computer. But I cannot ethically sell it without telling them
what kind of memory it is. And I cannot afford to replace it until this
is sold. These 2 sticks of RAM were to upgrade my computer and my
nephew's computer. And my old RAM was going to upgrade my sister's
computer. It was supposed to be aupgrade for me and Christmas gifts for
2 others.

At this point, I have no way of selling them, and the seller isn't
going to cooperate with information to help me sell them or take them
back.

This is what I have:

Apacer DDR 1GB - 333 Mhz PC2700

That was the title of the ad. The subject included the term REG in it
which was the only sign that it was not normal memory. And the ad
listed it as desktop memory.

REG might stand for Registered. Which is rarely used in desktops. Every
once in awhile it'll appear in a workstation class machine.

IS that the stuff?
http://www.apacer.com/en/products/Server_Memory_DDR_specs.htm#
 
F

friesian

REG might stand for Registered. Which is rarely used in desktops. Every
once in awhile it'll appear in a workstation class machine.


Yes, it is registered, and he is insisting that it worked in his
desktop. But after several emails, he finally admitted that his
computer was a custom built computer, so it is not a standard desktop.
But he will not admit that his ad was misleading and/or incorrect.

Anyway, I trying to find a way to sell them and hopefully get most of
my money back, but I cannot do what he did to me. I will not pretend it
is normal memory and stick somebody else with this problem.
 
F

friesian

driveone2 said:

I could not find a place where I could type in the memory and get a
list of computers that can use it.

I know what I have and what I need. The problem is that I need to be
able to advertise what I have for sale. As I understand it, these will
not work in a desktop, so I am having a hard time finding a buyer for
them.
 
P

paulmd

Yes, it is registered, and he is insisting that it worked in his
desktop. But after several emails, he finally admitted that his
computer was a custom built computer, so it is not a standard desktop.
But he will not admit that his ad was misleading and/or incorrect.

Anyway, I trying to find a way to sell them and hopefully get most of
my money back, but I cannot do what he did to me. I will not pretend it
is normal memory and stick somebody else with this problem.

Guys like him are the reason small claims courts exist.

I bet he has a server or workstation-class board stuffed in his
desktop. That he's not giving you the model # , suggests he knows that.


What WAS the ad, exactly?
 
F

friesian

Guys like him are the reason small claims courts exist.

I bet he has a server or workstation-class board stuffed in his
desktop. That he's not giving you the model # , suggests he knows that.

I believe this too. He didn't reply to my questions until I threatened
to file complaints with craigslist, paypal, and the post office for
mail fraud (since it was mailed). I did some looking online today, and
mall claims court would be $25 to file and I could get the court here
since it was mailed. It doesn't mean he would pay up quickly. So, I
would still rather sell them honestly than go that route, but I am
considering it.

He did give me a model number for the moterboard but not a brand name.
He has bene a real jerk offering to show me it working on his
motherboard if I drive there and pay him for his time. And he offered
to sell me his motherboard. But I'm not giving him more money. And I
don't need another motherboard. This was to go into two computers that
function fine. It was just an upgrade.
What WAS the ad, exactly?

Subject line: Apacer DDR 1GB - 333 Mhz PC2700

Body of the ad:

Apacer DDR 1GB REG - 333 Mhz PC2700 For Desktop Computer.
184pin
Backward compatible with DDR 266/DDR333/DDR400 MHz motherboards

Perform Data Transfer Rate up to 2100 MB/s ;2700 MB/s ;3200 MB/s ;4000
MB/s

Asking 75.00 OBO. It is in good working condition. We have 3 of them,
the price 75.00 for 1 if you want all 3 give me an offer.


------------------------------------

I purchased all 3 via mail since we were having snowy weather and it
was a long drive. I bought them on November 30th, but they were
intended for Christmas, so I did not actually test them until
Christmas. I know, that was my mistake. Most people are honest, and the
ad title was exactly the type of memory I needed. I had his mailing
address, so I didn't think it would be a problem.
 
J

Jim Macklin

PC2700 with a standard 184 pin RAM module is desktop, DDR.
Computers built with mobo about 4 or 5 years old technology
use PC 2700. It will work for mobo the require PC 2700 or
slower, such as PC2100.
SODIMM with 200 pins is laptop memory.

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Use a magnifing glass to read the data on the RAM and look
it up. Print the actual specs and let the buy decide
whether it will work on his mobo.

What does "registered" memory module mean?
The term "registered" refers to how the memory module
processes signals. Registered modules contain a register
that delays all information transferred to the module by one
clock cycle. This type of memory is primarily used in
servers.

While most PCs will accept only unbuffered memory modules,
there are some that accept registered memory modules. Keep
in mind that when you install registered memory modules, all
of the modules installed in your PC must be registered
because unbuffered and registered modules are not
interchangeable.

You can tell if you are using registered memory by looking
at one of the modules currently installed in your system. If
it has one or more small black chips mounted horizontally on
the module, you have registered memory. If not, you have
unbuffered memory.

If you are not sure whether your motherboard or PC supports
registered memory modules and it is not listed in our Memory
Selector, please contact us. We would be happy to look into
it for you.

Our Frequently Asked Questions database contains a wide
variety of information.


Look at the support pages and FAQs







|
| driveone2 wrote:
| > go to http://www.crucial.com
| >
|
| I could not find a place where I could type in the memory
and get a
| list of computers that can use it.
|
| I know what I have and what I need. The problem is that I
need to be
| able to advertise what I have for sale. As I understand
it, these will
| not work in a desktop, so I am having a hard time finding
a buyer for
| them.
|
 
P

paulmd

I believe this too. He didn't reply to my questions until I threatened
to file complaints with craigslist, paypal, and the post office for
mail fraud (since it was mailed). I did some looking online today, and
mall claims court would be $25 to file and I could get the court here
since it was mailed. It doesn't mean he would pay up quickly. So, I
would still rather sell them honestly than go that route, but I am
considering it.

He did give me a model number for the moterboard but not a brand name.

Easy enough given model number to google it and find out who made it.
He has bene a real jerk offering to show me it working on his
motherboard if I drive there and pay him for his time. And he offered
to sell me his motherboard. But I'm not giving him more money. And I
don't need another motherboard. This was to go into two computers that
function fine. It was just an upgrade.


Subject line: Apacer DDR 1GB - 333 Mhz PC2700

Body of the ad:

Apacer DDR 1GB REG - 333 Mhz PC2700 For Desktop Computer.
184pin

The Desktop computer part is off. It's incompatible with most desktop
motherboards. (and some of the ones it will work with, will just ignore
the part about it being registered)

Backward compatible with DDR 266/DDR333/DDR400 MHz motherboards

If the processor in question was actually running at 400fsb, the pc2700
may have issues running at all.
Perform Data Transfer Rate up to 2100 MB/s ;2700 MB/s ;3200 MB/s ;4000
MB/s
Well, it can't hit 3200 OR 4000MB/S. So THAT's misleading.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DDR_SDRAM


Asking 75.00 OBO. It is in good working condition. We have 3 of them,
the price 75.00 for 1 if you want all 3 give me an offer.


------------------------------------

I purchased all 3 via mail since we were having snowy weather and it
was a long drive. I bought them on November 30th, but they were
intended for Christmas, so I did not actually test them until
Christmas. I know, that was my mistake. Most people are honest, and the
ad title was exactly the type of memory I needed. I had his mailing
address, so I didn't think it would be a problem.

Sell it as pc2700 registered. The price new looks to be around
$95/stick. You should be able to recover most of your investment.
 
J

Jim Macklin

What model computers do you have? You have to match the RAM
to the requirements for each computer. RAM may be
registered and it may have Error correction ECC, that and
the pin count and notch location must match. But speed can
be different as long as the RAM will support the motherboard
FSB speed. If the mobo is faster than the RAM speed rating,
errors are likely to happen.
Googled and it looks as though the RAM you have has ECC and
some motherboards do not support that.




|
| (e-mail address removed) wrote:
|
| >
| > Guys like him are the reason small claims courts exist.
| >
| > I bet he has a server or workstation-class board stuffed
in his
| > desktop. That he's not giving you the model # , suggests
he knows that.
| >
|
| I believe this too. He didn't reply to my questions until
I threatened
| to file complaints with craigslist, paypal, and the post
office for
| mail fraud (since it was mailed). I did some looking
online today, and
| mall claims court would be $25 to file and I could get the
court here
| since it was mailed. It doesn't mean he would pay up
quickly. So, I
| would still rather sell them honestly than go that route,
but I am
| considering it.
|
| He did give me a model number for the moterboard but not a
brand name.
| He has bene a real jerk offering to show me it working on
his
| motherboard if I drive there and pay him for his time. And
he offered
| to sell me his motherboard. But I'm not giving him more
money. And I
| don't need another motherboard. This was to go into two
computers that
| function fine. It was just an upgrade.
|
| >
| > What WAS the ad, exactly?
|
| Subject line: Apacer DDR 1GB - 333 Mhz PC2700
|
| Body of the ad:
|
| Apacer DDR 1GB REG - 333 Mhz PC2700 For Desktop Computer.
| 184pin
| Backward compatible with DDR 266/DDR333/DDR400 MHz
motherboards
|
| Perform Data Transfer Rate up to 2100 MB/s ;2700 MB/s
;3200 MB/s ;4000
| MB/s
|
| Asking 75.00 OBO. It is in good working condition. We have
3 of them,
| the price 75.00 for 1 if you want all 3 give me an offer.
|
|
| ------------------------------------
|
| I purchased all 3 via mail since we were having snowy
weather and it
| was a long drive. I bought them on November 30th, but they
were
| intended for Christmas, so I did not actually test them
until
| Christmas. I know, that was my mistake. Most people are
honest, and the
| ad title was exactly the type of memory I needed. I had
his mailing
| address, so I didn't think it would be a problem.
|
 
R

Ron Martell

Apacer DDR 1GB - 333 Mhz PC2700

That was the title of the ad. The subject included the term REG in it
which was the only sign that it was not normal memory. And the ad
listed it as desktop memory.

Why wouldn't this RAM work in your computer? There are several
possible reasons for it:

1. Wrong type. If your computer uses the older SDRAM memory modules
or the newer DDR2 modules then the DDR module will not fit into the
socket on your motherboard.

2. Too large. Some motherboards, especially those that are a few
years old, only support RAM modules up to a certain size. With DDR
modules it is not uncommon to find a motherboard that accepts modules
up to 512 mb but not larger. What is the make and model of your
motherboard?

3. Not compatible with your existing RAM. If your motherboard does
use DDR RAM and if it does support 1 gb modules then it is possible
that your old RAM and your new RAM will not work together properly
because of differences in the internal layout and/or the material
composition of the RAM chips.

Good luck

Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
--
Microsoft MVP (1997 - 2006)
On-Line Help Computer Service
http://onlinehelp.bc.ca
Syberfix Remote Computer Repair

"Anyone who thinks that they are too small to make a difference
has never been in bed with a mosquito."
 
F

friesian

Ron said:
Why wouldn't this RAM work in your computer? There are several
possible reasons for it:

It is incompatible because it is registered memory (buffered), and most
desktops (including mine) do not use this type of memory.

I am trying to sell it, but it is not a common type, so people aren't
interested in it.
 
E

Eric

It is incompatible because it is registered memory (buffered), and most
desktops (including mine) do not use this type of memory.

I am trying to sell it, but it is not a common type, so people aren't
interested in it.

If an ad listed REG memory as desktop memory, you should be able to get your
money back.
Registered memory, as far as I'm aware, only works on servers (though
technically you could use a server as a "desktop").
 
F

friesian

If an ad listed REG memory as desktop memory, you should be able to get your
money back.
Registered memory, as far as I'm aware, only works on servers (though
technically you could use a server as a "desktop").


The seller insists that it works on desktops, and has refused to refund
my money. He has since changed his email address to avoid me. I do have
his mailing address. Since he didn't get my last email, I will send him
a postcard (more likely to read it if it is already open), and I will
tell him this is his last opportunity before small claims court. I did
post an ad on craigslist and got a reply from somebody else who was
cheated by him.

I really wish he would just take it back. It would be easier for both
of us.
 
B

Bruce Chambers

The seller insists that it works on desktops, and has refused to refund
my money. He has since changed his email address to avoid me. I do have
his mailing address. Since he didn't get my last email, I will send him
a postcard (more likely to read it if it is already open), and I will
tell him this is his last opportunity before small claims court. I did
post an ad on craigslist and got a reply from somebody else who was
cheated by him.

I really wish he would just take it back. It would be easier for both
of us.


Have you contacted your bank to stop payment on the check or credit
card used?


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E

Eric

Bruce Chambers said:
(e-mail address removed) wrote:
Have you contacted your bank to stop payment on the check or credit card
used?


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They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -Benjamin Franklin

Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. -Bertrand
Russell

Why would you assume it was a check or credit card?
Online purchases can also be through Paypal, money order... different
methods for refund through them.
If he's begging the seller to return the money, I'd say it's already too
late to stop a check, but a credit card company would most likely credit
your card and investigate the seller for you...
 
F

friesian

If he's begging the seller to return the money, I'd say it's already too
late to stop a check, but a credit card company would most likely credit
your card and investigate the seller for you...

It was paypal via transfer from my checking account. It was actually
purchased a few wekes before Christmas as a gift, so I didn't test it
and find it it didn't work until Christmas. Then I argued with him for
awhile, and didn't realize until it was too late that I passed paypal's
date for filing a claim.

So, other than a sudden change of heart for the seller, my only option
is small claims court, which I will probably do. I am sending him daily
refund requests through paypal's service. I might have a possible buyer
for the RAM next week. Somebody who has a server and thinks he ordered
the wrong kind online. If that kind is wrong, he will try mine. If he
buys it, then I will leave the seller alone.
 

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