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Mike Mueller
Sorry, late in the game on this thread. Need someone to try
this one. After you have the picture, convert it to another
image format and then see if the 'protection' was still
there. I tried a program that hides files in BMP images and
it was lost after a conversion to JPG and back.
: Interesting, especially the post from Jack
: stating that the watermark was still there even
: after a print screen and saving in a different format.
: Sounds like a combination of steganography
: and digital signing.
:
: regards
:
: Steve
:
: message : I got it. The watermark is still there and easily
: retrievable. The cool
: thing is that you had no idea it was there! If I found
: you using one of my
: copyrighted images, it would be very easy for me to take
: legal action
: against you, and you would not a legal leg to stand on.
: I would be able to
: easily prove that the image was copyrighted by me and not
: redistributable or
: reusable.
:
:
: message :: Still waiting.
::
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:: http://www.jimcoaddins.com
:: ===================================
:: Co-author of Special Edition
:: Using Microsoft FrontPage 2003
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:
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::
::
::
:: ::: e-mail headed your way.
:::
:::
::: --
::: 95isalive
::: This site is best viewed..................
::: ..............................with a computer
::: message ::: See http://www.jimcoaddins.com/watermark.htm. It gives
::: a pretty good
: idea
::: of what I'm talking about.
:::
::: --
::: Jim Cheshire
::: Jimco Add-ins
::: http://www.jimcoaddins.com
::: ===================================
::: Co-author of Special Edition
::: Using Microsoft FrontPage 2003
::: Order it today!
:::
::
:
http://search.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/isbnInquiry.asp?userid=2UELLO8CHO&isbn=0789729547&itm=7
:::
:::
:::
::: :::: I would bet the watermark could be removed using
:::: IrfanView, or maybe even notepad
::::
::::
:::: --
:::: 95isalive
:::: This site is best viewed..................
:::: ..............................with a computer
::::
:::: in message
:::: :::: Another option is a digital watermark. Using a
:::: digital watermark, you
:: can
:::: mark the image as your own and register it with
:::: Digimarc. If someone
:: were
:::: to copy it and you wanted to pursue it (assuming you
:::: found out about it), it
:::: would be extremely easy to identify the image as your
:::: own. Digital
:::: watermarks are near impossible to remove. Even if you
:::: crop out large
:::: portions of the image, the copyright can still be
:::: retrieved.
::::
:::: See www.digimarc.com.
::::
:::: --
:::: Jim Cheshire
:::: Jimco Add-ins
:::: http://www.jimcoaddins.com
:::: ===================================
:::: Co-author of Special Edition
:::: Using Microsoft FrontPage 2003
:::: Order it today!
::::
:::
::
:
http://search.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/isbnInquiry.asp?userid=2UELLO8CHO&isbn=0789729547&itm=7
::::
::::
::::
:::: ::::: Yeah..... there are thousands of artists and
::::: photographers who make their living
::::: by selling their work. Given that they are
::::: professionals, alot of their work is
::::: really really good. So it gets grabbed up by people
::::: who use it as
::::: page/table/cell backgrounds on other sites. They
::::: have to face that fine line of
::::: using images of good enough quality on their sites to
::::: attract buyers
:: or
::::: customers, but not good enough - or have Copyrighted
::::: written on
: them,
:: so
:::: others
::::: won't use them without permission.
:::::
::::: Tim
:::::
:::::
:::::
:::::
::::: ::::: Of course the problem with putting copyright info in
::::: huge letters on
:: the
::::: photo is that it may obscure the photo enough to keep
::::: the reader from seeing
::::: the picture.
:::::
::::: Being the type of person I am, I'm curious what kind
::::: of pictures people want
::::: to post but don't want stolen. Anyone care to answer?
:::::
:::::
::::: :::::: If you don't want it taken, use you image editor and
:::::: write
: COPYRIGHT
::: in
::::: big huge
:::::: letters on the image. Otherwise, stuff like
:::::: disabling right-click and <nocopy>
:::::: will stop only the absolute most newbie Internet
:::::: user. A good 80% of people
:::::: will know how to get your images.
::::::
:::::: Tim
::::::
::::::
:::::: message
:::::: :::::: Putting the no copy tags is all well and good but it
:::::: won't "stop"
:::: someone
:::::: who wants the photo. It may deter some but that's
:::::: all.
::::::
::::::
:::::: message ::::::: Don't give them the page url. Stops 'em dead in
::::::: thier tracks
:::: everytime.
::::::: Put <nocopy></nocopy> tags around the image.
::::::: Add the "dont_steal" attribute to the <img> tag.
:::::::
::::::: Bob Lehmann
:::::::
::::::: :::::::: Does anyone know how to disable the web user's
:::::::: ability to
:::::::: download a copy of a picture you put on a web page
:::::::: using
:::::::: FrontPage 2002?
this one. After you have the picture, convert it to another
image format and then see if the 'protection' was still
there. I tried a program that hides files in BMP images and
it was lost after a conversion to JPG and back.
: Interesting, especially the post from Jack
: stating that the watermark was still there even
: after a print screen and saving in a different format.
: Sounds like a combination of steganography
: and digital signing.
:
: regards
:
: Steve
:
: message : I got it. The watermark is still there and easily
: retrievable. The cool
: thing is that you had no idea it was there! If I found
: you using one of my
: copyrighted images, it would be very easy for me to take
: legal action
: against you, and you would not a legal leg to stand on.
: I would be able to
: easily prove that the image was copyrighted by me and not
: redistributable or
: reusable.
:
:
: message :: Still waiting.
::
:: --
:: Jim Cheshire
:: Jimco Add-ins
:: http://www.jimcoaddins.com
:: ===================================
:: Co-author of Special Edition
:: Using Microsoft FrontPage 2003
:: Order it today!
::
:
http://search.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/isbnInquiry.asp?userid=2UELLO8CHO&isbn=0789729547&itm=7
::
::
::
:: ::: e-mail headed your way.
:::
:::
::: --
::: 95isalive
::: This site is best viewed..................
::: ..............................with a computer
::: message ::: See http://www.jimcoaddins.com/watermark.htm. It gives
::: a pretty good
: idea
::: of what I'm talking about.
:::
::: --
::: Jim Cheshire
::: Jimco Add-ins
::: http://www.jimcoaddins.com
::: ===================================
::: Co-author of Special Edition
::: Using Microsoft FrontPage 2003
::: Order it today!
:::
::
:
http://search.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/isbnInquiry.asp?userid=2UELLO8CHO&isbn=0789729547&itm=7
:::
:::
:::
::: :::: I would bet the watermark could be removed using
:::: IrfanView, or maybe even notepad
::::
::::
:::: --
:::: 95isalive
:::: This site is best viewed..................
:::: ..............................with a computer
::::
:::: in message
:::: :::: Another option is a digital watermark. Using a
:::: digital watermark, you
:: can
:::: mark the image as your own and register it with
:::: Digimarc. If someone
:: were
:::: to copy it and you wanted to pursue it (assuming you
:::: found out about it), it
:::: would be extremely easy to identify the image as your
:::: own. Digital
:::: watermarks are near impossible to remove. Even if you
:::: crop out large
:::: portions of the image, the copyright can still be
:::: retrieved.
::::
:::: See www.digimarc.com.
::::
:::: --
:::: Jim Cheshire
:::: Jimco Add-ins
:::: http://www.jimcoaddins.com
:::: ===================================
:::: Co-author of Special Edition
:::: Using Microsoft FrontPage 2003
:::: Order it today!
::::
:::
::
:
http://search.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/isbnInquiry.asp?userid=2UELLO8CHO&isbn=0789729547&itm=7
::::
::::
::::
:::: ::::: Yeah..... there are thousands of artists and
::::: photographers who make their living
::::: by selling their work. Given that they are
::::: professionals, alot of their work is
::::: really really good. So it gets grabbed up by people
::::: who use it as
::::: page/table/cell backgrounds on other sites. They
::::: have to face that fine line of
::::: using images of good enough quality on their sites to
::::: attract buyers
:: or
::::: customers, but not good enough - or have Copyrighted
::::: written on
: them,
:: so
:::: others
::::: won't use them without permission.
:::::
::::: Tim
:::::
:::::
:::::
:::::
::::: ::::: Of course the problem with putting copyright info in
::::: huge letters on
:: the
::::: photo is that it may obscure the photo enough to keep
::::: the reader from seeing
::::: the picture.
:::::
::::: Being the type of person I am, I'm curious what kind
::::: of pictures people want
::::: to post but don't want stolen. Anyone care to answer?
:::::
:::::
::::: :::::: If you don't want it taken, use you image editor and
:::::: write
: COPYRIGHT
::: in
::::: big huge
:::::: letters on the image. Otherwise, stuff like
:::::: disabling right-click and <nocopy>
:::::: will stop only the absolute most newbie Internet
:::::: user. A good 80% of people
:::::: will know how to get your images.
::::::
:::::: Tim
::::::
::::::
:::::: message
:::::: :::::: Putting the no copy tags is all well and good but it
:::::: won't "stop"
:::: someone
:::::: who wants the photo. It may deter some but that's
:::::: all.
::::::
::::::
:::::: message ::::::: Don't give them the page url. Stops 'em dead in
::::::: thier tracks
:::: everytime.
::::::: Put <nocopy></nocopy> tags around the image.
::::::: Add the "dont_steal" attribute to the <img> tag.
:::::::
::::::: Bob Lehmann
:::::::
::::::: :::::::: Does anyone know how to disable the web user's
:::::::: ability to
:::::::: download a copy of a picture you put on a web page
:::::::: using
:::::::: FrontPage 2002?