Licensing

[Guest]

My company have 2 windows 2000 server,one of the server installed terminal
service.i am confuse that about licensing.here is the license information

server A CAL 27
server B CAL 26 Terminal License 16

i want to add more terminal client, so i need to buy terminal license.
What license i should buy? Only terminal license or i need to buy terminal
license and windows cal ?And i found 4 Temporary Terminal License on the
terminal license mmc, what does that mean (temporary)?i know not much about
licensing,What is per server license and per seat license mean?Actually, what
action will count the windows cal? Does map a network drive will count a cal
or not?

 

[Vera Noest [MVP]]

It's a pity that you don't mention the number of workstations.
Since you report 27 and 26 Windows CALs, I am going to assume that
you have 26 workstations.

Windows CALs:
Since you have installed Windows CALs on both server, it seems that
they are using Per Server licensing. That is usually not the best
way when you have more than one single server. You might want to
change that to Per Seat on both servers, which will cover your
Windows CAL requirements for 26+27=53 workstation.

For an explanation of Per Seat versus Per Server:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/server/howtobuy/pricing/model.
asp

There you also find which services need a Windows CAL (file print,
remote access, terminal services)

Terminal Server CALs:
You need one for every device that connects to your Terminal
Server. This is *not* per concurrent session.
So currently, with 16 TS CALs installed, 16 specific clients can
connect to the TS and receive a TS CAL.
The fact that you see 4 temporary TS CAL being issued means that
another 4 clients have connected. If you don't buy more TS CALs,
there temporary TS CALs are going to expire after 90 days, and then
those clients will not be able to connect anymore.

Note that all of the above information is Windows 2000 - specific.
Licensing changed quite a bit with Windows 2003, but that doesn't
apply to you.

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[Guest]

after i read the page about licensing, i get few problem.
can i switch the license between per seat and per server
it prompt me i can change only one time,after that i cant roll back!

Scenario:

10 client will connect to terminal server.They will use the office 2000
simultaneously and print the document which the printer is a network share
printer on the client site attach to server<the client is the 11th client,but
will not connect to terminal server>.The 10 client didnt buy the office 2000
license,so what license should i buy.

10 per seat license
10 terminal license
10 office 2000 license
1 per seat licese for the server attach a network share printer

It that correct ?

 

[Vera Noest [MVP]]

Assuming that you have a *total* of 11 clients and you are not
counting only concurrent (= simultaneous) connections, then this is
correct.
Which means you have only to change the Windows licensing on both
servers to Per Seat, and you have to buy the 10 Office licenses.

Since you already have more than enough Windows CALs and TS CALs,
you do not have to buy more of those.

If you do have more clients, but they never connect to the Terminal
Server, you have enough Windows CALs for another 27+26-10=43
clients. If those clients run Office locally, they need a Office
license as well.

I'm a bit confused by the 4 temporary TS CALs that you report. How
is that possible, if you connect with only 10 clients and you have
already installed 16 TS CALs?

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[Guest]

The senario is only an example.
i have a few question about office license
i purchsed 10 office license,the terminal server only need 1 cd-key for
installation it mean that 1 license,the 10 client connect to terminal server
and run office.I still have 9 offlice cd-key mean 9 license not yet
activate.Now only 5 client will connect to the terminal server for the
future,can i install the office on client locally.Are there have any problem
about licensing?
If the terminal server printer is not a network share print installed on
client,it is install on local<mean lpt1 on terminal server>Does it count 1
CAL?

 

[Vera Noest [MVP]]

It's impossible to give you a correct answer if you just give an
example. It's difficult enough to get the licensing requirements
correct when knowing all of the facts.

Office licensing is really simple: you must have a license for
every device which is ever used to run Office on. It doesn't matter
if Office is installed locally on the workststion, or if you first
start a sessions to the Terminal Server and then run Office.

Licensing Microsoft Office in a Windows Terminal Server Environment
http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/server/howtobuy/pricing/licens
office.asp

And once again: if your servers are licensed Per Seat and you have
a Windows CAL for every client, then all clients have the right to
connect to all servers which provide File and Print services.

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[Guest]

ic
thanks for your help

It's impossible to give you a correct answer if you just give an
example. It's difficult enough to get the licensing requirements
correct when knowing all of the facts.

Office licensing is really simple: you must have a license for
every device which is ever used to run Office on. It doesn't matter
if Office is installed locally on the workststion, or if you first
start a sessions to the Terminal Server and then run Office.

Licensing Microsoft Office in a Windows Terminal Server Environment
http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/server/howtobuy/pricing/licens
office.asp

And once again: if your servers are licensed Per Seat and you have
a Windows CAL for every client, then all clients have the right to
connect to all servers which provide File and Print services.

_________________________________________________________
Vera Noest
MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server
TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net
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