Kyocera and Hard Drives

[Eddie Cairns]

Talking to Kyocera about using one of their printers to produce a 12 page
newsletter double sided and collated

The said to collate the newsletter and have it print in sets rather than
lots of pages i.e. lots of page 1s and lots of page 2's etc we would have
to install a hard drive in the printer.

Do they set the printer drivers so that collate will only work if a hard
drive is installed in the printer. Or are they trying to sell hard drives.

Eddie

 

[Bob Headrick]

Talking to Kyocera about using one of their printers to produce a 12 page
newsletter double sided and collated

The said to collate the newsletter and have it print in sets rather than
lots of pages i.e. lots of page 1s and lots of page 2's etc we would have
to install a hard drive in the printer.

Do they set the printer drivers so that collate will only work if a hard
drive is installed in the printer. Or are they trying to sell hard drives.

It sounds like simply a matter of mathematics - to collate the jobs in the
printer requires that the printer hold the entire job so that it can print it
in the correct order. This can take quite a bit of internal memory in the
printer.

Regards,
Bob Headrick

 

[Mushroom]

Talking to Kyocera about using one of their printers to produce a 12 page
newsletter double sided and collated

The said to collate the newsletter and have it print in sets rather than
lots of pages i.e. lots of page 1s and lots of page 2's etc we would have
to install a hard drive in the printer.

Do they set the printer drivers so that collate will only work if a hard
drive is installed in the printer. Or are they trying to sell hard drives.

May not help, but if you use an HP laserJet (one of the more recent
ones, LJ4050, 4100 etc) and you have enough memory in it, the printer
will do it from RAM.

 

[Eddie Cairns]

Mushroom

I asked Kyocera if more RAM would be quicker than a hard drive and they
tried to steer me towards the hard drive. I think we both agree here that
extra RAM would be the better bet.

Eddie

 

[Nigel Feltham]

Talking to Kyocera about using one of their printers to produce a 12 page
newsletter double sided and collated

The said to collate the newsletter and have it print in sets rather than
lots of pages i.e. lots of page 1s and lots of page 2's etc we would have
to install a hard drive in the printer.

Do they set the printer drivers so that collate will only work if a hard
drive is installed in the printer. Or are they trying to sell hard drives.

You could ask what type of hard-drive is needed, you may be able to just use
an old spare IDE drive that's too small for PC use (used drives up to 10gb
should be available very cheaply now 40gb drives are available new for
under £50)?

 

[Eddie Cairns]

No chance Nigel.

All printer and copier manufacturers have the drive in a special physical
package with the relevant connectors that is proprietary to their printer /
copier HDD slots.

Both HP and Kyocera in fact have different hard drives in their catalogues
that only fit specific printer models in their ranges.

Most printer HDD are say 4 to 10 gig and costs circa £350 to £400 including
VAT. If you could still buy such a small capacity bare IDE HDD it would be
say £20.

They also charge circa £300 for 128 Meg RAM while Crucial charge £30 for the
same component.

Eddie

 

[Nigel Feltham]

No chance Nigel.

All printer and copier manufacturers have the drive in a special physical
package with the relevant connectors that is proprietary to their printer
/ copier HDD slots.

Both HP and Kyocera in fact have different hard drives in their catalogues
that only fit specific printer models in their ranges.

Most printer HDD are say 4 to 10 gig and costs circa £350 to £400
including VAT. If you could still buy such a small capacity bare IDE HDD
it would be say £20.

They also charge circa £300 for 128 Meg RAM while Crucial charge £30 for
the same component.

I assume you will be producing too many copies of the newsletter to just
send the job to the printer once for every copy (and that the potential
readers would be unable to use an electronic PDF format version)?

 

[Eddie Cairns]

Nigel

Basically a twelve A4 sided newsletter printed on 3 double sided A3 sheets
and we do 350 copies of each newsletter. It is put through doors in the
village and left in the local shops etc. We then put it on the net for
others from far a field to read in html format.

At the moment we print the masters, single side A3 on an inkjet. We then
copy that via a photocopier it has no printer input. Load the paper again
face down and photocopy on to the blank side. Do that another 2 or four
times depending if it is an 8 page or a 12 page issue then manually collate
and manually fold.

Time from first copy off the copier to last newsletter folded circa 8 hours.

It is hoped if the Laser printer electronically collates that the time from
first print to last manually folded copy will be circa 3 hours.

Typical copy of newsletter here

http://www.mearns.org/auchenblae/jun03/index.html


Eddie