bob said:
The modem is a SB5101. I think you miss understood me. The Ethernet port
OUT OF THE CABLE MODEM is not working. The USB port out of the
modem is working and functional with internet to the IBM computer
SO, i cannot do the typical put the WiFi 4 port router between the
computer and modem. The ports on the WiFi router are fine. The computer
is working using the USB connection from the surfboard. Eventually, i
might replace the surfboard, but its functional for now so that's what i
am rolling with
Now as i understand it, if i set up ICS, it assigns a fixed IP of
192.168.0.1 to the computers only Ethernet port? I have other PCI
cards to add more ports, but i did not think i needed to do this.
then Ethernet cable to any of the Ethernet ports on the router?
(not the WAN port, right?) any special settings on the router?
DHCP? Obviously i will set up the WiFI for username and encryption.
Thanks for all your help
bob
There is no "Ethernet port OUT OF THE CABLE MODEM" (where "out" means an
upstream connection). The only "out" (WAN-side) connection is to the
cable. *Both* the Ethernet and USB ports are "in" (LAN-side)
connections. You have 2 "data" downstream ports: Ethernet (RJ45) or
USB. You have one coaxial "cable" upstream port (RG6).
http://www.motorola.com/Video-Solut...-Gateways-and-eMTAs/Cable-Modems/SB5101_US-EN
- Optional USB 1.1 USB *data* port.
- 10/100 Base-T Ethernet *data* port.
See the manual, page 7, available online at:
http://www.motorola.com/staticfiles...ocuments/Static Files/SB5101 - User Guide.pdf
Yes, you CAN use a router with that router. It's the same one that I
have. Cable modem (Ethernet port) --> router (WAN-side Ethernet port)
--> router (LAN-side Ethernet or Wifi) --> computer (Ethernet or WiFi).
If "OUT OF THE CABLE MODEM" meant the Ethernet port (a data or
downstream or "in" port) is not working (to connect to a computer), is
that WITHOUT the USB port inuse? You get to use one or the other on the
cable modem because you only 1 IP address assigned to your use by your
ISP. If you unplug the USB cable from the USB port on the cable modem,
is the Ethernet port on the cable modem still inoperable?
If the Ethernet port on the cable modem is non-functional so you are
left with just the USB port on the cable modem, why not use a router
that has a WAN-side USB port (to connect it to the cable modem)?
Example:
http://www.tp-link.com/common/download/?resource=/resources/software/20111616204111.pdf
($25 at newegg.com)
page 4, Section 1.4.2, "The Rear Panel"
Shows a USB port. Says it connects to a cable modem. So this router
has a USB upstream port to connect to the cable modem's USB downstream
port. It has both wired and wireless connections to your hosts, so you
can hardwire your old desktop to it along with using WiFi from you
laptop.
Caveat: I don't know that the Motorola Surfboard 5101U is a 3GB cable
modem. The Surfboard isn't mentioned in their manual as tested for use
with this router but then manufacturers don't always list every
compatible device with their product.
Did you actually buy the cable modem or are you leasing it from your
ISP? I looked at the cost for buying one (and having to support it
myself) along with how often it had to get replaced (typically around 3
years) and I wasn't getting ahead of the cost curve versus leasing one
from my ISP. If leased from your ISP, call them and have it replaced.
If they have a local service center, you might be able to just walk in
and get an immediate replacement.
If you want no further cost to getting your laptop connected to the
Internet, and you don't want to swap the USB cable between the desktop
and laptop (which leaves one of them disconnected) then maybe ICS is how
you need to go. But how are you going to get the laptop wirelessly
connected to your desktop? Did the mashup string of "IBM A50 with built
in Ethernet and video P4 3G" mean you have wifi connectivity from the
desktop (if this was indeed a description of the desktop)? Does it also
mean that you have *two* NICS in your desktop (the one to get used as
the ICS gateway host): one Ethernet and one wifi?
It's a bit confusing because you mention wanting to use ICS on your
desktop (or whatever is that wannabe gateway host) and yet you also
mention a wifi router. Where you thinking of connecting your desktop
(ICS gateway host) via USB to the cable modem and then using the other
NIC (wifi or Ethernet) to connect to your laptop? Hmm, I'm not sure ICS
is going to see the USB connection as a NIC to include in its gateway
configuration. Does the USB device (USB port on desktop to USB port on
cable modem) currently show up as a connectoid listed in the Network
Connections applet in Control Panel? It might if an appropriate driver
to emulate a NIC were installed that would communicate over the USB
connection.
http://www.motorola.com/staticfiles...ocuments/Static Files/SB5101 - User Guide.pdf
page 7, Computer System Requirements, USB Connection
"The USB connection requires special USB driver software that is
supplied on the SURFboard Cable Modem CD-ROM."
So, if the driver is installed to emulate a NIC over that USB
connection, I'm guessing the USB connection is listed in the Network
Connections applet. If so, you should be able to use it in the ICS
setup.
http://www.conniq.com/WinXPNetworking_NetSetup2.htm
You'll want to setup the network bridge in ICS so the emulated NIC via
USB driver is on the WAN-side (Internet) and your Ethernet NIC is on the
LAN-side (intranet hosts) on your ICS gateway host. If you're using
your desktop as an ICS gateway host and if that host has wifi, I'm not
sure why you are still wanting to use the router downstream of the
gateway host since your other intranet hosts (laptop) have wifi.
Wouldn't you want to go wifi from laptop to desktop/gateway host? Why
go wifi from laptop to router and then wired from router to your
desktop/gateway host? Your ICS gateway host *is* the router and why you
need a decent firewall (and better than the simple one provided in XP).
ICS is the switch device, the router, the NAT host, and Internet
gateway.
Rather than get into all this (and I'm not an expert with ICS), it seems
replacing the cable modem with the defective Ethernet data port solves
all your problems right away. And if it's leased from your ISP then
there's no cost to you versus having to buy your own cable modem again
(and again and again in the future when those break, too). If it's your
cable modem (you paid for it and it's your property), maybe the RJ45
plug is bad. If so, open the case and replace the plug. It could be
the pins (wires) inside the RJ-45 plug are bent (often up so they don't
push down against the connectors pins) so just bend them back down. Not
enough info to know if the cable modem's Ethernet port is logically
defective (on a PCB inside the cable modem) or if just the RJ-45
connector is defective and can be repaired or replaced.
Even if you bought the cable modem, you might want to consider leasing a
new one from your ISP. I think the cost is typically around $3/month.
Somehow I don't see someone that is paying for Internet access from an
ISP not being able to afford $7/month. Computers and Internet always
cost money so they are restricted to those who can afford them. Yes,
you might be money poor but if you're that poor then maybe it's time to
give up on high-speed Internet and go back to an analog data/fax modem.
Paying for broadband Internet access after already paying for a computer
and then paying for later upgrades (software and hardware) but not being
able to afford leasing a cable modem (for awhile) is like saying you
want a Maseratti but cannot afford the water to wash it. Time to get
rid of the Maseratti, get a Saturn or Kia, and keep the cheapie
maintained. You might have to give up on high-speed Internet access if
you are so close to collapsing your finances that you cannot afford the
$7/month to lease a cable modem from your ISP.
You can go with the ICS scheme if you have the necessary network
hardware inside your desktop (gateway host) but it looks like you're
headed for a bunch of headaches versus just replacing the cable modem.
After all, you'll have to be paying for the extra electricity consumed
by your gateway host to have it powered and running ICS just to get your
laptop connected. If $7/month is going to bust your finances then give
yourself MORE breathing room by sacrificing the high-speed Internet
service and go slow until you can afford fast. Save up the savings when
you go to slow dial-up access to put against a new cable modem (if
you're still intent on buying your own) or until you accumulate enough
to afford the $7 rental unit and then go fast again. You'll spend less
than one-fifth (or less than one-tenth depending on limited versus
unlimited) on dial-up than for broadband. You can get dial-up access
for damn cheap and more than save enough in just 2 months in sacrificing
high-speed during that time than the cost of a new cable modem.