Ink replacement (R200)

D

Dgethin

I have a problem, do I buy genuine epson cartridges or compatibles.
I have been scouring the internet, and there are so many different types of
compatibles.
Where do I go from here.
 
M

measekite

If you print load is not extremely high, you do not need to risk
screwing up the delicate Epson printheads. If you print load is high
then do you research carefully.
 
Y

Yianni

I use a series of auto-reset chips on a R300 printer. Each time I print
something (even one page) the printer does a cleaning cycle. Becuase of this
fact the printer uses 20 times more ink than the ink would be used for
printing the pages... Does someone knows how to solve it? Do all continues
ink systems behave the same way??? Are there different chips avoiding this
fact?
 
I

Ivor Floppy

Yianni said:
I use a series of auto-reset chips on a R300 printer. Each time I print
something (even one page) the printer does a cleaning cycle. Becuase of
this
fact the printer uses 20 times more ink than the ink would be used for
printing the pages... Does someone knows how to solve it? Do all continues
ink systems behave the same way??? Are there different chips avoiding this
fact?

I'd complain to the suppliers of the auto-reset chips; they obviously aren't
working right if the printer is doing a cleaning cycle everytime you print
something. Using 'normal' non-resting chips mine does a clean cycle about
once every two weeks, or maybe less if I use the printer regularly.
 
S

SamSez

Yianni said:
I use a series of auto-reset chips on a R300 printer. Each time I print
something (even one page) the printer does a cleaning cycle. Becuase of this
fact the printer uses 20 times more ink than the ink would be used for
printing the pages... Does someone knows how to solve it? Do all continues
ink systems behave the same way??? Are there different chips avoiding this
fact?

I leave my r200 on all the time, and the few times I do turn it off, I use the
button on the printer -- not a power strip switch. I sometimes don't print for
several days, but when I do print, I have never noticed it do a 'cleaning
cycle' -- just the print. There is no ink used between prints, and no 'extra'
ink used during a single print. I use epson carts and I don't refill. Maybe it
doesn't like your reset chips.
 
M

measekite

Yianni said:
I use a series of auto-reset chips on a R300 printer. Each time I print
something (even one page) the printer does a cleaning cycle. Becuase of this
fact the printer uses 20 times more ink than the ink would be used for
printing the pages... Does someone knows how to solve it? Do all continues
ink systems behave the same way??? Are there different chips avoiding this
fact?

I was going to buy an R300 but when I heard about what you are saying I
bought a Canon IP4000 and do not have the problem.
 
M

measekite

SamSez said:
I leave my r200 on all the time, and the few times I do turn it off, I use the
button on the printer -- not a power strip switch. I sometimes don't print for
several days, but when I do print, I have never noticed it do a 'cleaning
cycle' -- just the print. There is no ink used between prints, and no 'extra'
ink used during a single print. I use epson carts and I don't refill.

Smart Move. I assume you do not have any problems.
 
A

Arthur Entlich

You ask around for reputable ink cartridge suppliers in your area from
people who use them. Keep in mind that longevity of ink from fading may
differ between inks.

Art
 
B

bart.frank

arthur,

according to inkrepublic's site, they claimed their chipset can prevent
cleaning cycle? is that for real?

what do we really waste if doing head cleaning?
 
B

Bob Headrick

according to inkrepublic's site, they claimed their chipset can prevent
cleaning cycle? is that for real?

what do we really waste if doing head cleaning?

Head cleanings use a bit of ink. more or less depending on various factors.
Not cleaning will most likely result in clogged printheads, especially if you
do not print often.

- Bob Headrick
 
R

Rob

arthur,

according to inkrepublic's site, they claimed their chipset can prevent
cleaning cycle? is that for real?

what do we really waste if doing head cleaning?



Don't see that happening.

I use a 1270 on a regular basis I had just printed 4 A3+ prints and had
to do a colour cartridge change. having done this printed a further 2
A3+ prints and on the third the magenta blocked, leaving me to clean the
heads and restart the print again.

Seems that heads just clog for no apparent reason - this exercise heaps
of ink went through the heads, so it wasn't standing around and the
printer is used on a regular basis. Head cleaning perhaps should be done
on a regular basis without question.
 
A

Arthur Entlich

Epson has changed it's systems several times, so it depends upon the
printer model.

The printers keep track of three basic pieces of information:

1) Waste ink pad ink amount

2) amount of ink left in the cartridge (intelledge cartridge or status
ink monitor or both)

3) time between last cleaning cycle which may move around depending on
last startup.

To my knowledge, the cartridge chips themselves are not responsible for
the storing or actuating that part of the equation, but instead, in
firmware and some memory, but I could be mistaken.

Are you sure they aren't claiming that with their cartridge chips, the
printer will not read a cartridge low or empty, which would trigger a
cartridge replacement and the larger purging process.


A regular head cleaning may use between 1% to 3% of the ink, but major
purges like with the printer when brand new, or the cleaning between may
mean a lot more up to 20%, as I recall. Cleaning for changing
cartridges is probably about 5% of the ink or so, but it's out of each
of the cartridges, so that adds up/


Art
 
I

Ivor Floppy

Arthur Entlich said:
Epson has changed it's systems several times, so it depends upon the
printer model.

The printers keep track of three basic pieces of information:

1) Waste ink pad ink amount

2) amount of ink left in the cartridge (intelledge cartridge or status ink
monitor or both)

3) time between last cleaning cycle which may move around depending on
last startup.

To my knowledge, the cartridge chips themselves are not responsible for
the storing or actuating that part of the equation, but instead, in
firmware and some memory, but I could be mistaken.

I've read about this problem before somewhere - because the ink level
reset's everytime the printer is used and confuses the printer making it do
a clean cycle (it thinks the ink carts have been changed). The better
auto-reset chips will only reset when the ink level gets down to 10% or less
and therefore don't trigger more than the normal level of clean cycles.
 
M

measekite

From these posts it appears that Epson has a whole lot of problems that
Canon and HP do not have.
 
I

Ivor Floppy

measekite said:
From these posts it appears that Epson has a whole lot of problems that
Canon and HP do not have.

And from other posts it appears that Canon and HP have a whole lot of
problems that Epson don't have too.
 
I

Ivor Floppy

miswrite said:
Much less

...probably because HP and Canon printers are less popular............and in
the case of the bottom end of the market, built to Lexmark quality and are
disposable when they go wrong.
 

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