IMAP and 2007 Outlook

E

EastAsia

I am using Outlook 2007, beta.

There are some things that I am not quite comfortable with IMAP and was
wondering if some could share their experiences...

Deleting items:
I understand that IMAP doesn't naturally move deleted items to a deleted or
trash folder because it uses more bandwidth. So... How do you all handle
deleted items?

Basically, my issue is this. I like to delete things then hold them until
about 30 days after they were recieved. This is just in case I need that
email again. But, everything after 30 days, I want to purge.

It seems to me that IMAP clients only like to purge all for deleted, rather
than have a system for only purging a select subset of emails based on a
date... Anyone following me?

Can you perge individual messages, or just purge all marked for deletion?

Speed:
At least in Outlook 2007 and previous versions of outlook I have noticed a
speed issue with the client, particularly as it seeks to query the folder
each time you click on it. The client hangs as it waits for the new
information to be downloaded from the imap server... Is it possible to have
it just query the folder during the "Send and Recieve" ?

Thanks in advance.

/CL
 
D

Diane Poremsky [MVP]

IMAP works mostly the same in 2007 as it does in older versions with a few
improvements, like it now has the ability to purge automatically on folder
change.

No you can't purge by age. Most people who like to keep purged items use a
hide deleted view to get them out of sight.

It needs to resync the folders when you open them - you could try working
offline and see if it helps (I don't think it will).
 
E

EastAsia

You don't sound like a proponent of imap...

:)


Diane Poremsky said:
IMAP works mostly the same in 2007 as it does in older versions with a
few improvements, like it now has the ability to purge automatically on
folder change.

No you can't purge by age. Most people who like to keep purged items use a
hide deleted view to get them out of sight.

It needs to resync the folders when you open them - you could try working
offline and see if it helps (I don't think it will).


--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours
Coauthor, OneNote 2003 for Windows (Visual QuickStart Guide)
Need Help with Common Tasks? http://www.outlook-tips.net/beginner/





EastAsia said:
I am using Outlook 2007, beta.

There are some things that I am not quite comfortable with IMAP and was
wondering if some could share their experiences...

Deleting items:
I understand that IMAP doesn't naturally move deleted items to a deleted
or
trash folder because it uses more bandwidth. So... How do you all handle
deleted items?

Basically, my issue is this. I like to delete things then hold them
until
about 30 days after they were recieved. This is just in case I need that
email again. But, everything after 30 days, I want to purge.

It seems to me that IMAP clients only like to purge all for deleted,
rather
than have a system for only purging a select subset of emails based on a
date... Anyone following me?

Can you perge individual messages, or just purge all marked for deletion?

Speed:
At least in Outlook 2007 and previous versions of outlook I have noticed
a
speed issue with the client, particularly as it seeks to query the folder
each time you click on it. The client hangs as it waits for the new
information to be downloaded from the imap server... Is it possible to
have
it just query the folder during the "Send and Recieve" ?

Thanks in advance.

/CL
 
D

Diane Poremsky [MVP]

I use it for several accounts - but I also understand how outlook works with
it and I know it's limitations. I also know that a low percentage of outlook
users use imap with it, so while they have made improvements, other features
get more budget because more people use them.


--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours
Coauthor, OneNote 2003 for Windows (Visual QuickStart Guide)
Need Help with Common Tasks? http://www.outlook-tips.net/beginner/






EastAsia said:
You don't sound like a proponent of imap...

:)


Diane Poremsky said:
IMAP works mostly the same in 2007 as it does in older versions with a
few improvements, like it now has the ability to purge automatically on
folder change.

No you can't purge by age. Most people who like to keep purged items use
a hide deleted view to get them out of sight.

It needs to resync the folders when you open them - you could try working
offline and see if it helps (I don't think it will).


--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours
Coauthor, OneNote 2003 for Windows (Visual QuickStart Guide)
Need Help with Common Tasks? http://www.outlook-tips.net/beginner/





EastAsia said:
I am using Outlook 2007, beta.

There are some things that I am not quite comfortable with IMAP and was
wondering if some could share their experiences...

Deleting items:
I understand that IMAP doesn't naturally move deleted items to a deleted
or
trash folder because it uses more bandwidth. So... How do you all
handle
deleted items?

Basically, my issue is this. I like to delete things then hold them
until
about 30 days after they were recieved. This is just in case I need
that
email again. But, everything after 30 days, I want to purge.

It seems to me that IMAP clients only like to purge all for deleted,
rather
than have a system for only purging a select subset of emails based on a
date... Anyone following me?

Can you perge individual messages, or just purge all marked for
deletion?

Speed:
At least in Outlook 2007 and previous versions of outlook I have noticed
a
speed issue with the client, particularly as it seeks to query the
folder
each time you click on it. The client hangs as it waits for the new
information to be downloaded from the imap server... Is it possible to
have
it just query the folder during the "Send and Recieve" ?

Thanks in advance.

/CL
 
J

JDJ

I use it for several accounts - but I also understand how outlook works with
it and I know it's limitations. I also know that a low percentage of outlook
users use imap with it, so while they have made improvements, other features
get more budget because more people use them.

Does IMAP have anything to do with free HotMail or MSN mail accounts?

I have an old "free" HotMail account so I am able to get my hotmail in
Outlook 2003.

Will Outlook 2007 support my HotMail Account?
 
D

Diane Poremsky [MVP]

No. That is http - and most free accounts no longer support it. If you have
a paid account, you can set it in outlook 2007.
 
J

JDJ

That is http - and most free accounts no longer support it. If you have
a paid account, you can set it in outlook 2007.

You are right, its HTTP, however, what happened was MS (or MSN) quit
handing out NEW HTTP free accounts that would work with MS Outlook,
but all the old free accounts still worked with MS Outlook, so I hope
they haven't deliberately removed that feature in this "upgrade".

The paid accounts (I don't have one) do it with POP (as a mirror to
what you get through the web interface) don't they?
 
M

Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

MS is phasing out support for older accounts as well.

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Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All
unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted without
reading.

After furious head scratching, JDJ asked:

| On Wed, 24 May 2006 20:39:58 -0400, "Diane Poremsky [MVP]"
|
|| That is http - and most free accounts no longer support it. If you
|| have a paid account, you can set it in outlook 2007.
|
| You are right, its HTTP, however, what happened was MS (or MSN) quit
| handing out NEW HTTP free accounts that would work with MS Outlook,
| but all the old free accounts still worked with MS Outlook, so I hope
| they haven't deliberately removed that feature in this "upgrade".
|
| The paid accounts (I don't have one) do it with POP (as a mirror to
| what you get through the web interface) don't they?
 
B

Brian Tillman

JDJ said:
The paid accounts (I don't have one) do it with POP (as a mirror to
what you get through the web interface) don't they?

Nope. They use HTTP as well.
 

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